jurov 's admining the bash ... and would like to have "please resubmit this to wiki" button
ascii_field: 'Of course, being Americans, they have to prosecute this information war in the silliest way possible. First, you trot out your claims of civilian casualties before the Russians fly a single sortie. Oops! Then you stuff the social media with fake pictures of wounded children produced beforehand by performers in white helmets paid for by George Soros. And then, when asked for evidence, you refuse to provide any.' << l0lz
ascii_field: 'Undeterred by diplomacy, the US squeezed off a couple of cruise missiles in the general direction of Syria, but the Russians promptly shot them out of the sky, triggering a major rethink at the Pentagon and, of course, making the US look rather silly.' << i missed this?
ascii_field: y contractors are getting paid. Things got even sillier when it later turned out that even these few fighters got car-jacked by ISIS/al Qaeda in Syria (whatever they are currently calling themselves) and got their vehicles and weapons taken away from them.'
ascii_field: 'The first bit of extreme silliness surfaced when Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, the head of the United States Central Command, told a Senate panel that only a very small number of Syrian fighters trained by the United States remained in the fight—perhaps as few as five. The tab for training and equipping them was $500 million. That's $100 million per fighter, but that's OK, because it's all good as long as the militar
mircea_popescu: and with that, i shall be off to buy wine. to sweeten the wait, i leave you with http://40.media.tumblr.com/5bd6f2d522cf52c46ae7a696e0b69054/tumblr_nj0ketRqJs1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg
ascii_field: otherwise lethal.
ascii_field: 1) i encrypt a message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 2) i send to him 3) hitler picks it up from the wire and throws it away 4) hitler encrypts substitute message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 5) he sends
mircea_popescu: davout they don;'t have much roquefort here, unfortunately.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: if i'm responding to a message that was encrypted to my key, and demonstrate knowledge of the cleartext, does that not support unhitlerdom?
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 16:11:55; mircea_popescu: psa : brie is THE omlette cheese.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:12:48; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284625 << aha. but ever notice that it's sha1, and can't be changed to anything else? and, likewise, self-sigs are hardcoded to use sha1? it is pestilentially pervasive in the rfc, and Must Die
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:45:37; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285102 << presently they are quite unlike! hash type for general-purpose message signing is ~selectable~ from the handful of traditional algos; hash for signature ~of keys~ is hardwired to sha1 !
trinque: diametric also for weechat there's himon.pl
ascii_field: 'GPG throws a warning [3] that the message could have been modified, but other implementations do not differentiate between SE and SEIP.' << what 'other implementations' ? microshit crypto ?
ascii_field: 'The implications are, among others, that an encrypted and signed message can be stripped of its signature and modified arbitrarily, with certain restrictions, by an attacker without knowing the key.' << ahahahaha
diametric: ugh i hate when the channel notifies me my nick was mentioned but then it gets lost in scrollback.
asciilifeform: 'Swartz had grown moody and stopped showing up to work. At one point, after he wrote a blog post envisioning his own death, Ohanian called the police to break into his apartment. Swartz laughed it off. Meanwhile, publicly, he called himself one of Reddits cofounders, taking credit for an idea Huffman and Ohanian believed to be theirs alone. In January of 2007, he was fired. Six years later, he hanged himself while facing a
asciilifeform: http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/navy-diversifies-ships-cyber-systems-to-foil-hackers << l0l! betcha they have win98 on one, 95 on others, NT on yet others...
asciilifeform: 'Some bike thief managed to open my combination lock. How could they possibly guess that the combo was the year of the canonization of Saint Dominic by Pope Gregory IX at Rieti, Italy? What year was that? 1234.'
mircea_popescu: clucked, if you prefer, rather than handprint
asciilifeform: the strongest hypothesis is that it was 'we don't giveafuck, you'll buy it'-manufactured.
mircea_popescu recalls "specialty ink" was more expensive than "double the run"
asciilifeform: to the point of unreadability
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i recently popped a crate with 4th ed. stroustrup. it was, to my surprise, proper lay-flat. but the pleasant surprise turned to ick when i saw that it, for no particular reason, had blue as well as black print, and a good fraction of the blue is smudged !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the "back then" comment is that i'd be much surprised you can find sanely priced layflat process anymore. because yes, mass production needs the mass.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall what the run was. maybe 8k ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the economics of webprint are not unlike those of circuit board
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: ;;later tell pete_dushenski I don't see a discrepancy. It updates nightly with the wot database dumps. So probably he changed the rating and btcalpha hadn't picked up the change yet.
asciilifeform: (and, after some years, comes off the page)
mircea_popescu: back then it wasn't even fucking expensive, iirc it cost ~25 cents per
mircea_popescu: all that's pod and if you inspect the covers you'll see the difference between layflat process and pod covers.
mircea_popescu: it died with the death of the entire publishing industry (actual publishing, ie, putting ink to paper. not predend publishing, aka editing newspapers etc)
mircea_popescu: actually in the early 2000s there was some effort on the part of mfgs to support latex
asciilifeform: well aha, they send you params
asciilifeform: typically the machines are able to eat postscript.
mircea_popescu: it may not be the last web pressed fiction offering in the us, but it won't be far ahead of the last i dun think
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: printer tells you what he eats, then you make latex shit it.
mircea_popescu: a) the printer can't use latex ; b) self published generally means, PoD and a sharky editor that fleeces the hopeful. this was actually printed on web press, so in this sense everything else printed hence is a lot more "self published" than asylum.
asciilifeform: almost like there is some threshold that is crossed (i.e. ~all~ of the comments on an article re: recent oregon 'postal' being such that concern organized mass disarmament) and then they 'ban commentz now!?!!!'
mircea_popescu: sent files straight to the printer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, did i ever tell you i did all the typesetting of that thing myself ?
asciilifeform: i.e. abandons the appearance of k0nsensoos
mircea_popescu: iirc the idea was that nobody'll ever notice.
mircea_popescu: well so i got your email but apparently there;s still someting wrong because it's all garbled and what is this "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" stuff.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the reason this went by unobserved for ~20 hours is that a) internal mail still worked, obviousyl, and b) enom decently adds its record with priority 10. there's a bugfeature apparently where some relayers/dns servers prefer higher priority records even if older.
asciilifeform has a fat manually-typewritten stack of these 'militarizms' somewhere
asciilifeform: 'The population density of USA is 100 square people per mile.' << win.
asciilifeform: most of these extortionists have a 'purgatory'
mircea_popescu: in other unrelated news, namecheap wants 200 bucks to renew your expired domain
asciilifeform: this is also a psa/reminder that enemy may not read pgp message, but can substitute his own for yours! sign the material inside.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a psa/reminder that in point of fact there is ZERO security wrt email. i, or you, or anyone bored one evening can hijack a mx record, read all teh inbound mail etc.
mircea_popescu: punkman im sure they bounced.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's kinda what was wtfing me, what, i don't paste enough of inbound spam in here or wtf is their problem.
punkman: they should have thrown some kind of error though, instead of silently accepting all teh emails
mircea_popescu: no fucking wonder's been going on for yearsnobody wrote about it. they'd have to write "umm....lolz"
mircea_popescu: "After reviewing your chat transcripts, it appears in the first chat that the Junior Administrator stated specifically what the issue was, which is that the domain is expired as of 8/7/2011. There was also clarification provided that you'd need to contact the registrar directly for the renewal and to update the DNS back to our name-servers."
mircea_popescu: there's something too weird for life here.
mircea_popescu: For security reason, we cannot have an internal link available to the Public. Please bookmark this link https://ctmail.ct.gov so you can access the site directly.
mircea_popescu: ahaha what the everloving fuck.
mircea_popescu: so upon examination it turns out that polimedia mx dns record has been poisoned somehow, or what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292577 << they don't. they fantasize that they did.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the russian did it poorly. should have been America Today.
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 01:26:11; assbot: RT Is a Mock-Up of the Real Thing | Opinion | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPEqg )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292510 <<< bwahahaha and moscow times is the real thing ?
gabriel_laddel: A PHD in string theory!
BingoBoingo: All gambling outside of BitBet is a scam http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/05/draftkings_and_fanduel_scrutinized_for_insider_info_after_employee_leak.html
trinque: you know, you could probably make a pretty cool DHT system where the indexes of interesting keys are the txns sent from particular addresses
trinque: something to think about. in other news, my journey is complete
trinque: ben_vulpes | worst case scenario, unless the standard is verifiability, #bitcoin-jesters could cause all sortsa problems trying to federate their wot into this one. << I have pondered making deedbot- eat rss feeds *of deeds*; sounds applicable here
BingoBoingo: Johnny Depp is already a parody of himself. Give it two years and he'll do the Nicholas Cage thing where he fights for parts in straight to home video flicks just to pay the bills.
asciilifeform: stockpile the (increasingly unobtainable) mobos first
gabriel_laddel: sure, it is only a temporary solution, but we've no other option
asciilifeform: amd co., the old gentle giant, is not long for this world. which leaves intel, which is a malignancy.
asciilifeform: it being the ONLY reason one cannot permanently nail down a kernel and pour cement over it.
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 00:17:23; mircea_popescu: You were the only toxic thing in that entire story. Hopefully your failure informs other women, at a young age when they confront the choice of whether to be sarah-sharp-toxic or productive members of society, and they choose to not be sarah-sharp-toxic.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292450 << somehow i can't help but picture maggots, having devoured a quantity of gangrenous tissue, proceeding to living flesh - i.e. 'gnome' and 'kde' have been poetteringed into putrescent soup, and now it is time for the kernel...
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: how many levels of stack has the u.s. navy ?
asciilifeform: 'Konstantin Sonin, a columnist for Vedomosti, is a professor at the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy Studies and the Higher School of Economics in Moscow.' << so apparently they haven't purged ~all~ the vermin quite yet.
assbot: NATO Denounces 'Unacceptable' Russian Incursion Into Turkey | News | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPP54 )
asciilifeform: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/nato-denounces-unacceptable-russian-incursion-into-turkey/536980.html << m0ar lulz from same fishwrap.
assbot: RT Is a Mock-Up of the Real Thing | Opinion | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPEqg )
asciilifeform: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/rt-is-a-mock-up-of-the-real-thing/535896.html << tr0l0l0l
asciilifeform: ergo no verify unless you're phriendz with the rater
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:46:29; ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292441 << afaik there is no hard-crypto record of the logz (beyond snippets some of us may be willing to sign)
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:27:06; pete_dushenski: and speaking of wowz and suches and muches and scamcoins, i just checked the chart for dogecoin and it's really surprisingly stable. also noted that $50-100k of the crap trades hands on a daily basis. then again, could be some dogederps trading with himself all day.
mircea_popescu sets alf up for 1trn deliveries of the exact time
asciilifeform: but srsly, who the everliving fuck cares how many times a message is delivered !
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:20:01; pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292416 << >> 'there are two hard things: titanic nonproblem A and astonishing irrelevancy B !'
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:24:43; pete_dushenski: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0/ << '279' xt nodez. how many 'half-dollar aws instances' is left as an exercise to the reader.
BingoBoingo: These were more aspiring lizards.
mircea_popescu: mostly because you work in sweatshop C rather than sweatshop A.
asciilifeform: wake me up when they let a preeted plebe go.
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 00:30:29; BingoBoingo: ^ Preet continues being ejected by the system which grew him
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292462 << all i see here is 'don't meddle in the affairs of lizards'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292464 << insert the great gossipd thread here !
mircea_popescu: from the "we are young, we're free, why don't you sleep with me" department, http://41.media.tumblr.com/1b28ccdf0aeb0e6a237b388aa7aeafa9/tumblr_njnlik7Eb21qmb3uno1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: From the "I'm not sure if the fundamently misunderstanding is even being misunderstood" department http://qntra.net/2015/10/vessenes-foundation-drops-sponsorship-of-node-explorer/#comment-63937
mircea_popescu: if you do know me, you can verify them.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:46:29; ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's
BingoBoingo: ^ Preet continues being ejected by the system which grew him
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:20:01; pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292364 << of course it was fucking planned. the cockroaches don't do anything without a lot of sitting around and chanting alinsky at each other
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 22:19:23; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292160 << hot damn i have to start doing this. inquiring minds would love a list of List of People Kidnapped By MP This Week And What They Taught Him. also, does argentina actually have a dozen ppl worth mircea_popescu's time ~every~ week ?
mircea_popescu: Meanwhile, the only thing you will be remembered for is your noxious quality."
mircea_popescu: You were the only toxic thing in that entire story. Hopefully your failure informs other women, at a young age when they confront the choice of whether to be sarah-sharp-toxic or productive members of society, and they choose to not be sarah-sharp-toxic.
ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's
ben_vulpes: worst case scenario, unless the standard is verifiability, #bitcoin-jesters could cause all sortsa problems trying to federate their wot into this one.
BingoBoingo: Oh ivermectin and artemisinin won the nobel prize for medicine this year
pete_dushenski: can't say i've heard of 'btc38' before either
adlai: yes, i'm not trusting that ~23% from cryptsy, it's essentially holding funds hostage by blowing up the transfer fees
pete_dushenski: and speaking of wowz and suches and muches and scamcoins, i just checked the chart for dogecoin and it's really surprisingly stable. also noted that $50-100k of the crap trades hands on a daily basis. then again, could be some dogederps trading with himself all day.
pete_dushenski: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0/ << '279' xt nodez. how many 'half-dollar aws instances' is left as an exercise to the reader.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:16:51; assbot: You rated user pete_dushenski on 19-Sep-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=drama+queen.
pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes"
pete_dushenski: lol +1 ?? then why am i seeing -1 ?
assbot: You rated user pete_dushenski on 19-Sep-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=drama+queen.
pete_dushenski: "-1pete_dushenski1.022362 Sep 19, 2015 drama queen http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=drama+queen" << only on btcalpha then, eh adlai
cazalla: BingoBoingo, https://encyclopediadramatica.se/SANDYLOOTCREW there we go, had my 4chans and gnaa's mixed up
adlai: pete_dushenski: no, but some asset holders might've had hopes which were unrealizable over the required timeframe
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i think it did, but the pictures were reused for a fake loot crew during some other event to troll alex jones into reporting it as fact
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 15:38:06; mircea_popescu: dividing the mkt cap by the mkt volume roughly yields the "empty hopes" factor.
pete_dushenski: o hey back in the '40s. just like mpoe...
cazalla: BingoBoingo, the funny thing about infowars publishing 4chan trolls is that infowars published 4chan trolls it thought to be real (katrina loot crew)
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/O9vqB#selection-2617.0-2621.186 << Fuck, now hams are copying the 4chaners
pete_dushenski just unwrapped, fresh off the boat from new delhi, his copy of 'the art of not being governed'
kakobrekla: by making the drivers search for parking longer?
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 09:56:10; *: mircea_popescu does a dozen or more of these "so let me run this by you" citizen arrests things.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292160 << hot damn i have to start doing this. inquiring minds would love a list of List of People Kidnapped By MP This Week And What They Taught Him. also, does argentina actually have a dozen ppl worth mircea_popescu's time ~every~ week ?
pete_dushenski: 'oh, we told the regulators that you were circumcized and they found out that you actually weren't. please visit your nearest stealership so we can right this terrible wrong.'
pete_dushenski: inb4 no one "fixes" their vw diesels
pete_dushenski: pound-feet of torque. When run with all four wheels turning it produced an uncorrected 114 hp and 214 lb-ft at the wheels. When run with just two wheels in motion the Jetta got 113 hp and 188 lb-ft at the wheels. Reading the graph, we're told that power differences between the two runs were as much as 15 hp and 32 lb-ft."
pete_dushenski: "The Fast Lane Car tried to sketch some answers by going to a shop in Denver, Colorado to run a 2011 Jetta TDI with a six-speed DSG transmission on an all-wheel-drive dyno. The thinking was that if you ran all four wheels the car would think it was on the road, whereas if you ran only two the car might think it's being tested. We'll get straight to the numbers: the stock sedan is quoted at 140 horsepower and 236
pete_dushenski: or the 'king tut's centre for kids who can't read good'
ben_vulpes: same club is gently discouraged from letting foreign students near the code and plans
ben_vulpes: person in question made an appearance at $rokkitclub as well on the same topic.
ascii_field: someone should teach this woman about the piss-pants-for-justice campaign.
ascii_field: 'I have the right to replace any comment I feel like with “fart fart fart fart”. ' << win
ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/wtc/wtc052.jpg << what is the purpose of the curtain? (appears in several other shots)
ascii_field: 'Anderson refused to cooperate with prosecutors unless the CIA was present. Anderson wanted to be released from jail, Rosenblum said in court, and “he would literally lead (Davis) to warship-sized cargo of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars; he could lead Mr. Davis to connections in the Middle East involving pharaohs and kings.”' << win
ascii_field: linked article described the diapers being purely a convenience/laziness thing - e.g., in casino, office workers avoiding toilet break
mircea_popescu: they get a daddy-little relationship, she wears diapers, he does handiwork, it's perhaps the most functional couple of the western world.
mircea_popescu: http://joostdevblog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/proun-is-big-success-pay-what-you-want.html << vaguely interesting, another piece of the "people should never get any options" puzzle.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what goes through these people's heads/
assbot: » #PissForEquality: Feminists Fall For 4Chan Troll Campaign by Peeing Themselves Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pfy9WW )
mircea_popescu: http://www.infowars.com/pissforequality-feminists-fall-for-4chan-troll-campaign-by-peeing-themselves/
BingoBoingo: The problem when dealing with Brain Dead morons though is it requires an entire infrastructure to minimize the cost of interactions with them
gabrielradio: mircea_popescu not really. thinking about it, it's kinda the same thing as sdice. choose odds, send btc, roll the dice. only with a much larger -ev
mircea_popescu: an' in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/f34976c621f9f4c4102de6929352e4a4/tumblr_nj5es7Fd581qmb3uno1_1280.jpg
gabrielradio: bitbet needs to get in on the action
gabrielradio: "In Betfreds own words the ACCAttacka has reinvigorated the weekend football acca selection process with style & substance in equal measure. [...] ACCAttacka innovation means you can simply log into your Betfred mobile account, select a desired bet stake, outline the amount of money you would like to win and then sit back and let the Betfred software build you a potential winning accumulator"
gabrielradio: http://www.puntersverdict.co.uk/articles/october-2015/Is-the-bookie-making-a-brain-dead-moron-out-of-you.php << meanwhile in fiat betting
mircea_popescu: kinda like spam, these people.
mircea_popescu: Do not mention how their use was pioneered by the Israeli Air Force in 1948, and how they were used by the US Air Force in Vietnam in Operation Inferno in 1968. Keep repeating, barrel bombs, barrel bombs and stating with a straight face that the Syrian regime is using them against its own people. Against its own people. Against its own people. Against its own people.
mircea_popescu: 1) Keep mentioning the barrel bombs.
ben_vulpes: search'll need redoing on top of the wot as well.
assbot: The Numbers Post (aka Brutal Honesty) « Streaming Colour Studios ... ( http://bit.ly/1RqXIU8 )
mircea_popescu: http://www.streamingcolour.com/blog/2009/03/09/the-numbers-post-aka-brutal-honesty/ ah, the industree five years ago.
ascii_field: (well perhaps not ~any~ - but certainly it is more of a thing than the 'multi-coloured pill' business in gringolandia)
mircea_popescu: "It's an interesting piece of info and it resonates a lot with the issues and choices I and to make with my game early this year. I can see how those numbers could be discouraging but I kind of agree with Sven, they are not that bad."
ascii_field: 'I can actually remember when Looney Toons was yanked in favor of more PC Barney the dinosaur bullshit. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable.'
mircea_popescu: who the fuckgives a shit, obscure studio making obscure app on that old tablet thing you meanwhile lost.
mircea_popescu: "I think it was great to get the game into the hands of a lot of people for free, even if it lost money for the studio.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 15:55:34; mircea_popescu: http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/10/04/pictorial-essay-18-things-i-did-that-my-grand-kids-cant-do-without-someone-getting-arrested/
mircea_popescu: "With these ca. 100.000 dls we made a whooping $162 in total. In other words form 100.000 people playing or at least downloading the game 127 in App Purchases were tracked by Apple, which means that 0.13% of our user base as paid something inside the App. Dont get us wrong: We are thankful for those purchases and we hope that you enjoy our game, but to build a sustainable business this wont get us very far as an
assbot: Pictorial Essay: 18 Things I Did That My Grand-kids Can’t Do Without Someone Getting Arrested « The Burning Platform ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z3PE0A )
mircea_popescu: http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/10/04/pictorial-essay-18-things-i-did-that-my-grand-kids-cant-do-without-someone-getting-arrested/
ascii_field: whereas the fiat-megamoneybag folks also want 3) without nudging market rate
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 06:05:19; mircea_popescu: anyway, the ever more feverish pitch of desperation is lulzy. "sell bitcoin to me". dude... why the fuck would i be selling anything to you ? fuck you, your approval is not required, your desires don't matter, you're not being persuaded here. you're being raped. nobody gives a shit about your consent, let alone excitement to use bitcoin. you'll use it to survive, and marginally at that.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 09:07:08; PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291888 << is there a working alternative?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292078 << there is, unfortunately, not. yandex is the closest to coming close.
mircea_popescu: (i really use very little software, and most of it either 30 years old or made by people i know)
mircea_popescu: ah yeah, there is that.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 09:18:42; mircea_popescu: but in general, what sort of information do you obtain by putting words in a box ? suppose you search for "chicken broth" and they explain to you it's a heavy fuel oil. do you believe that ?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292085 << the mega-application for google is 1) error messages 2) lines of published code.
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mircea_popescu: anyway, my takeaway from teh reading is that s.mg should probably at least try and support steam. so if there's someone who actually has experience with this, talk to me.
mircea_popescu: i actually have great hope for the future ofthis system yes.
diana_coman: well you can grab people by their irc nick I suppose, not really by the tie at any moment
mircea_popescu: hey, wait just a minute there!
mircea_popescu: anyway. the original point ofthings likethe mit ai lab, or the xerox parc, or etc, was that people could grab each other by the tie in the hallway
diana_coman: just that he has the wrong ideas as to what is reliable source for btc
mircea_popescu: diana_coman that's the other thing. the odds of me giving two pre-compressed, freeze dried rat shits on the "article" of some random derp i dunno... hm.
PeterL: "I read it on the internet, it must be true!"
diana_coman: basically a uni professor who had no idea of the topic but just heard he had to say something on it
diana_coman: had some fun reading them
diana_coman: fwiw I saw first-hand the horrible things google/search-reliance can do for lazy people too - there were some very sad (or laughable if so inclined) articles on Bitcoin in ACM magazine
mircea_popescu does a dozen or more of these "so let me run this by you" citizen arrests things.
diana_coman: well yes, but uhm, not really sure they'd come all the way from australia, nz and whatever else, every time
mircea_popescu: the point of convenience, of course, and the humane way to do this, is where you know the people who'd have written articles on that topicanyway, so you put some bagels in the oven, ring them up, invite them over, and talk the matter through over wine.
diana_coman: the rest is discovered through connections anyway
diana_coman: so you need just a start on the web
diana_coman: well, if the guy was an idiot and did not update his page, what can one do
mircea_popescu: and then five years later you discover it hid for no reason one article out of 6
diana_coman: assuming the guy doesn't have his own page updated for some reason
diana_coman: it's still kind of ok for specific stuff, more like bookmarking kind of thing - I know what I'm searching for and roughly where it is, I just need the quick path to it (as in search on dl.acm for articles of X on topic Y or in journal Z)
mircea_popescu: so yes in this sense, google is here to supersede "smart contracts" or vice-versa, whatever. either way really, nonsense's nonsense.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the google problem is in any way different from the colored coins/ripple/ethereum problem, or generally "automated trust" issue.
diana_coman: and it did not find them
diana_coman: well, I think it might head that way, in the sense that it happened more than once that I searched for things with precise and specific keywords I knew were in there
diana_coman: IF I have no choice but to start that way, I would afterwards check the source basically
diana_coman: then again, I am NOT finding google useful to find information in general
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diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> these results specifically : http://www.pixelprospector.com/the-big-list-of-indie-game-marketing/ <- it's 2nd result returned for me on search: indie game marketing
mircea_popescu: the general population may be happy to pop sugar pills, but that doesn't make them medicine, right ?
PeterL: but the general population is ignorant and does not care to alleviate their ignorance, so google works for them. If they can't find it on google, it doesn't exist
mircea_popescu: and that said, i am probably in the top 1% when it comes to understanding the higher level issues involved, which means i canhammer together a search string like few others. so google would probably be lot more useful to me, were it to be useful at all, than to the general population.