(trilema) ben_vulpes: how did that song go?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: home sweet home sheets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahhh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: aren't txids canonical after block inclusion?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: my hero!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (outletpair, actually, and the unused one.)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (i was just thanked by someone who plugged into the same outlet as me. wtf.)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: write a standalone wallet while yer at it :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm, i see it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: a change to block inclusion rules?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: none of this half-assed "dear state or magic maths please save me from my own derpitude"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: either trust your counterparties and deal with them, or don't and don't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're just going to hurt your head
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ya well stop trying to impose derpy fiat notions on bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (subject of, davout how goes the testnet excision? my digs show less than 50 mentions throughout the whole codebase)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (entirely aside, in a fevered moment of sleeplessness on the plane from bsas i looked into ripping out the nonstandard transaction relay blocking stuff)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how could there be? it is of necessity a meatwot thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was always under the impression that there was no single hawala network.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah no hawala
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought i was using it correctly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: come again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you can push single satoshis around on mpex
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai: dood mpex is bitcoin halawa
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the halawa of cartels.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no, not the halawa for the muslim at the mosque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai: hm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: williamdunne: stop thinking swift, start thinking halawa
(trilema) ben_vulpes: williamdunne: the people i want using bitcoin take one look at the source and run screaming, as they should
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck off and DIE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> But does seem like the block-size will need to increase at some stage(s) if we're to continue growth << dude again with this growth bugaboo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol well we nuked it
(trilema) ben_vulpes is entirely out of his depth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108323 << how would we know?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: c-c-c-combo breaker!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ratestorm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:33] http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108862 << l0l, where ? la poesia
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adios buenos aires!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but commmenttttssssss!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: i found a bronies store in bsas. was completely baffled.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: YOUR FEEDBACK IS AS ALWAYS INVALULOL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: THANKS MIKE_C
(trilema) ben_vulpes: isn't it always...
(trilema) ben_vulpes wonders how this rss bot is built such that it can't be tested
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> Can't test /me raises an eyebrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't think, test :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: friend of ascii*?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who're you, diatonic?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have the top floor of la poesia entirely to myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: let us not neglect the headache of coordinating a blocksize change
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> every large enough operation has this set of accounts that are below water - cost more to service than they're worth. which is why fiat banks are charging per account << myeah i got some of these
(trilema) ben_vulpes: touchy tatiana, you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sheesh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not you, trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: such progress.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: williamdunne: is not the hard cap of 21M of the thing enough for you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: williamdunne: is not the inability to interdict funds enough for you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: these i suppose are the muppets you're looking for.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh gosh so we can all be richer in the fyooooture instead of working today" sort of nonsense
(trilema) ben_vulpes: usd denominated value of bitcoins /literally does not matter/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and what is this "growth" thing you keep banging on about?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: williamdunne: alternatively, the big blocks version will be populated with retards.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the thing about bitcoins is that it a system that conserves, and resists diddling in the vein of fiat economies.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so no technical fears then?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: especially if you're even sort of supporting this blocksize change derpage.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: you gotta have a hypothesis about what's going to happen, man.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 21me8 then, williamdunne.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm saying that "right" doesn't matter.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the worst case scenario of hitting that ceiling?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's as magic as 21M.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: appropriate shmappropriate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess they're all bitcoin or something retarded like that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what then distinguishes bitcoin from XXXcoin?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so if you change the block size, you get deuterium.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is that still a tautology?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nitrogen is nitrogen because of the arrangement of electrons in valence shells.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also what is this "to grow" nonsense.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if a thing exists with a block size that is not one megabyte, /that thing is not bitcoin/.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: williamdunne: you're missing the point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: usg can break it like they broke gpg, but that broken thing will not and cannot be bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoin is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man it doesn't matter what's needed or wanted or anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just axin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever figure varnish out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think my lulzmuscles are exhausted from con
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imma rewrite it in ruby on rails this wknd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s the post is the feed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s the site is the feed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: inclusion is for teh masses!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ha yeah that's right fu rss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also probably guilty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitching!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: crumbs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ud crumbs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: d'you know - i saw "respond via what's app" on some ad while en el sur?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably the last users
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes for smokes alone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox57hdgeAU << i'll be the last to goooooooo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: postgrest ++
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://zerolength.com/ << heh although this is a pretty good blog title
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://github.com/redline6561/coleslaw << trinque i think might actually use hutchentoot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/#comment-19226 << v active this williamdunne
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "roughly 3000 BTC" << ascii_* now that's a rocket
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: "and omitting to state material facts." << something trips my native engrish filter in this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Adlai> [01:40] nah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZC0ZJ1AW8 << scam, was expecting physics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did briefly look into providing "how likely is this addr to doublespend" as a service
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <trinque> [01:26] might not end up being bitcoin itself << of necessity must be something else
(trilema) ben_vulpes: HARUMPH
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust liquidassets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <liquidassets> [01:09] when you see it... << heh i missed it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (you don't need that apostrophe, fyi)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: joeblo: "deb up to an API" << wat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stocks, meh.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: options, sure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for the very simple reason that complex financial instruments are rarely fungible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look at mpex, each contract is different
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is no standard, joeblo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice suites btw!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all of a sudden there is life in the thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suspect that mircea_popescu booked out all of hotel redacto for con3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "are self-funded and self-motivated" << the actual footnote you want here is the reference to the deficits that serenissima runs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like i said, above my pay grade
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just trollin u boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's the latest and greatest in php performance tekmology!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you tried hiphop vm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> i dun think you laymen understand running php under load is like << ftfy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: above my pay grade boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and still need varnish?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i only actually use nginx.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "beating heart of the source code" << more like well-armed guardians of the blood in the fly in the amber
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look, pete, if the lord had intended capitalization, he'd have capitalized whatever himself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: blech and with the capitalizing of my carefully uncapitalized lines
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/22/parenting-is-going-to-be-hard/ "whose company we enjoy" << dude you're barely ever here what "we"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * ascii_launchpad [00:04] just walked by a 'women in tech' poster << in the airport?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bwaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: drink too much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: beat yer kids
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cry at night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: give up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look do what the 'professionals' do
(trilema) ben_vulpes: discovering the deep bitrot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [23:47] # cd /usr/local/src << baww look at the hobbyist sysadmin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_*, mircea_popescu: "hadoop" << thought y'all'd get a kick out of that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: utterly insane
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107427 << you know i met the guy one time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buenos noches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buenos noches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even deflustered stan before packing him into cab
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas a very good show
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: slaughtered derps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: valkyrie came riding
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: artifexd: well that sets it apart from all of the other crypto libs ascii_lander was going on about over coffee today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does it wrap openssl?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_lander
(trilema) ben_vulpes: high grade lulzatronium
(trilema) ben_vulpes will join
(trilema) ben_vulpes: o.O
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how did they get django into a memory forensics tool?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eyy chetty, still game for ceviche?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201503/2015031201-the-sad-state-of-sysadmin-in-the-age-of-containers.html << lotsa yup
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell ascii_lander don't wait up for me tomorrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell cazalla there are worse ways to spend a few hours and also better but few with comprable lulzdensity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude this is 100x better than the gaw shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: floor pizza!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stuff them into her mouth. The anger drained out of GTS, to be replaced by disbelief and disgust, as she stood there watching JLW eat floor pizza.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scoop up bits of dough and toppings and
(trilema) ben_vulpes: GTS managed to get a grip on the box, which sent JLW into a Fat-Fury™ frenzy of incoherant screaming and flailing limbs. One of which smacked GTS right in the face, causing her to spill the remaining slices all over the ground. Her fist clenched as her arm drew back and I knew nothing would stop her from punching JLW right in the face. Except JLW was already on the ground, desperately trying to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: oh man you gotta read this series
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/2oujsf/the_saga_of_the_great_white_land_whale_part_1/ << what have you done
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes this especially is written for you ^ compadre. << d'you know how far forward i look to the ancient stone warehouse of garbage that must be cleared by hand?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: psztorc: fitting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bon chance, mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: da da, da da, da da, da da!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the cadence of speech you employ when forced to beat sense into such as me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: idem with your impatient hand-fluttering at my nitwitisms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_* has a /way/ of saying it that must be seen for the grokking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: an example'd be the "kick-ass" utterance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (mthreat too, i should add)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or the flavor of utterances?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pszt/orc/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: explicit orcs i suppose
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we have orcs now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up psztorc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * ascii_lander saw some truly kick-ass graves today << i have such a greater appreciation for mod6, ascii_*, mircea_popescu, mike_c, davout, hanbot in-chan utterances now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am rather pleased with my progress.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: swore shortly thereafter to claw my way out of potentially lethal and unremunerative work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: almost died of co poisoning one time cutting radiant heat lines into concrete in a basement.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: both of which - yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "you've never lived on $10/hr, have you?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "you've never worked a service industry job, have you?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suppose it is supposed to inspire pity?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: little do they know that the episcopalians dragged me through this particular gutter as a youth and cemented my opinions of the subhumans.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/32ze1v/working_in_a_food_bank_i_am_a_useless_piece_of/ << myeah, if average donor had an idea what the beneficiaries are like, they'd donate warm lead. << folks frequently exhort me to "donate time at redacted house", to see what life is like for these people.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "we must because we can"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because? why not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: likely next to evita - subterranean access from nearby barrio
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> morphs into these when parking's tight << i imagine a special flat where he relaxes into his final chthonian form
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol ascii_lander they don't have stands
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aves uber alles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more likely, suborned from get-go right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it twitched, you didn't notice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (ascii_lander: is that an actual tab?!)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitte ascii_lander
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_lander
(trilema) ben_vulpes: may i inquire as to the terms of that contract?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait i thought she was on payroll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: three only included for symmetry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if one and two are to happen to one, at least ensure three and four
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> i think i can probably manage 1 and 2 << this though is the point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well call it 1.25 liters and 8 hours
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: aha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:49] !up SquirtPrincess << she's probably going to get more out of this than that indianchocolate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "fearless" is what i seek to instill.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-parenting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: shouldn't it be total/hours?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, at no point did my BAC approach anything interesting.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: do you want to count the whole day's titration?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: worked for me
(trilema) ben_vulpes shrugs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-assets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a derpy pun!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while there are parallels, they as all must pick their masters.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one does not train daughters in the way one trains wives and girlfriends.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why though is going off to whore necessary?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you tell me, you actually do the binding
(trilema) ben_vulpes: peonage?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if whoring is what she's bound to do she'll go into it well knowledgeable of the various optimizations to be made
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suspect the odds are something abhorrent like 1/10 in each event
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i do intend to run the assperiment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: 'twas directed at ascii_lander
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no clearly, but the young can be set upon the road much more early can they not?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but someday(!) i'll have their ears 'pon me necklace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: i understand, the actual nuke-carriers chased me off the floor tonight.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're just lazy and i think possibly scared
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all tech though is learnable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fistful of tacks, i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so go out and talk to them!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kind of my point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> [01:31] just like the 'best car' << "cultures that do not cherish the young mother perish", and we want this for la serenissima?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (st4ph)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suppose implicit is the importing of staff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:21] in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/2e4abde700722943b58acc7eb4b2b8a9/tumblr_ncmjn3Ymmz1tmc6gao6_r1_400.gif << i think this is the first mircea_popescu link where the gurl's apparently winning to untrained eyes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: redactoleta i mean
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll buy her a great big fuck off box in recolata after victory
(trilema) ben_vulpes: RIP moiety
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:19] ascii_lander meanwhile i'm like, "yeah totally, go read trilema tomorrow." << precisely my point