asciilifeform: but in re: mathematics:
asciilifeform: and yes their goodbye letter (it leaked out, iirc, years later) mentioned chicks
asciilifeform: but m & m wanted to go straight for the 'wedding'
mircea_popescu: prolly why the us went all overboard with "faggits!"
mircea_popescu: didn't they famously say natasha fucks better ?
asciilifeform: the detectives were baffled because they only looked for the simple knobs - bag of money; or failing that, 'ideological rot'
mircea_popescu: which is why women generally confront the "either you put out or we rape you" and bureaucrats generally confront the "play ball or go sleep with the fishes".
asciilifeform: from the actual words of m & m, in as far as they have been recorded in su, it was (in at least the case of the domainant fella, i forget which one that was) on account of... mathematics
mircea_popescu: the point isn't "the money", the money is always and everywhere as it is here a token. the point of the bribe is that the bribed becomes part of the clan of the briber, it's exactly a fucking wedding.
asciilifeform: that was the demented summary aha
mircea_popescu: anyway. if memory serves the actual cia conclusion was "social ambition drove it", which is EXACTLY what a fucking bribe is.
asciilifeform: aha, bulk of the turd is literally about this.
asciilifeform: well, yes, normally you need something to make the money stick
mircea_popescu: the most you'll get is a can of coke out of a vending machine.
mircea_popescu: that's not the ordinary sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bribe in the ordinary sense
asciilifeform: but as far as publicly known, neither martin nor mitchell was running 'from sins'
mircea_popescu: recall the north korean girly that killed herself in paris rather than come back home to the ~very priviledged~ household of her commanding daddy in best democratic thingamagig ?
asciilifeform: m and m blew the usg minds for the simple reason that, as far as anybody could tell, they weren't bribed
mircea_popescu: in the end not substantially different from the su's own "sluggard schizophrenia" in response to that age old question that's the bane of every mature bureaucracy : "why would anyone want to leave paradise!"
mircea_popescu: it's funny how all the soviet defections were proof sovietism dun work (it didn't) but all the various us defections weren't proof usgism dun work (it... didn't).
asciilifeform: and the tone with which the usgdroids describe one of the fellas watching japanese strippers diddle one another, it must be read to be appreciated.
asciilifeform: 'Martin and Mitchell's effects reveal their interest and activity in photography, music, Russian language, French, and travel. Mitchell also possesses much athletic and sporting equipment, firearms, and a large liquor supply.'
mircea_popescu: in my head it's all "time when the pre-cocksucking lusers lived"
mircea_popescu: the 60s
asciilifeform: l0l! even viktor kamkin bookstore (rip) and its owners figured in the case!
asciilifeform: (tldr: the brass, in at least as far as the Official Truth doc releases reveal, were obsessed with whether m & m were buggering one another and spent millions investigating this)
asciilifeform: 'Martin is said to have criticized American women and marital laws. Martin and Mitchell have both been described as socially awkward and Mitchell has been described as unsophisticated and naive about the practical world.' (p.60)
asciilifeform suspects that he reads moar of it, and more attentively, than the pro gurlz
mircea_popescu: in another life you could have been a happily employed girlie, reading this crud of your own curiosity an' making summaries for terrorists.
mircea_popescu: the stuff you read.
asciilifeform: 'Idiosyncrasies : Eats raw chicken because he likes the taste.' << from mitchell's fbi file
asciilifeform: the book is interesting not only from anthropological pov but also because it reveals why 'gost' is a piece of shit
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf http://mikhailmasl.livejournal.com/4852.html << mega-b00k. afaik never published in dead tree. the only known memoir of mathematician working in kgb, lived through the '90s no less. the fella who designed that crackpot calculator for central bank.
shinohai: Maybe I need the proper drugs.
asciilifeform: shinohai: what was the issue
asciilifeform: you can build for whateverthefuck you like, build for nintendo, build for cray
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351578 << anybody who wants to build for ARM can use my recipe, it is in the ml, and it wurx
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:29:37; assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:38:37; linton_s_dawson: If something ca be done in an easy-to-use manner, it should be done. I'm aware of the "if you're too lazy to learn you don't deserve it" logic but I don't completely agree with it.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351584 << to mutilate the old saying, 'things oughta be as easy to use as possible, but not easier'
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 10:16:31; punkman: sqlite could work fine for the foreseeable future, main objection is that it comes with unneeeded complexity/kiloLOC
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351721 << it is a turd and barely works for the purpose it was designed for. and NO MOTHERFUCKING SQL in bitcoin
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 10:10:20; mircea_popescu: i thought the initial sync's being discussed.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:35:36; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351542 << I've worked with some fairly large sqlite dbs, obviously if you are doing a full table scan on 500gb of data, it's not gonna be fast, but it motherfucking works.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351660 << ahahahaa i'm a laugh to death, we want a sql parser to grind every motherfucking time a tx is fetched ??!?!?
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:31:41; mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/068FQ43.txt << seriously, these derps classified as secret/foia extempt some derp-ass $50-a-pop market research crapolade that's ~maybe~ one step above a wikipedia cull ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351654 << y'know, the janitor's schedule at ft meade is also classified. 'sources & methods' (tm) (r)
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:26:49; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351462 << BECAUSE, importantly, the only remaining function of the british colony, its only significant export and sole raison d'etre left is exactly this playing the extraterritorial base for the USG role. you know, obama is not spying on you, the queen is (and sharing the results). we hope this legalistic subtlety makes all the difference to you!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351650 << this flowed predictably out of the post-ww2 bitchdom that gave us orwell's apt 'airstrip one'
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:06:33; mircea_popescu: the oh-so-precious "alternative means solar, wind and any other inefficiency" lobby can push it's "the only energy source that works doesn't work - buy our shit" narrative.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351645 << kinda funny, same thing petro-pipe-era (1970s+) su used to do to the west (funded 'activism!11111' against fission, etc)
asciilifeform: (usg is happy to preside over the mothballing of perfectly-working su nuke plants, this is a very effective colonization instrument)
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:00:51; mircea_popescu: repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet." <<< this much is exactly factual, as romania is well aware since its very difficult early 90s. as far as temperate habitation is concerned, you have strictly to options : either produce enough energy to keep the heating pipes unfrozen through the winter, or else lose the possibility of urban settlement and as a result return
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:27:45; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351345 << not anyone afaik. theoretically speaking it wouldn't likely work too well yet - not enough resources on the pi to be a real node. nevertheless, as a didactic / research sort of project rather than something to go in production trying would be interesting, if for nothing else then because nobody;s tried it yet.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351575 << i tried it! on pi-1. not enough i/o bandwidth. but the problem with all 'pi' machines is rather different - it is the presence of a dedicated, always-on usg mysterymeat cpu core
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu get thee to an electronics shop and sneak a peek at the abomination. e.g., 'samsung s2 tablet' etc.
asciilifeform: it has dancing buzzing crud around the edges when your eyes move
asciilifeform: in the pentile shit, TEXT IS NOT BLACK
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:21:56; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351296 << aww, i guess it does huh. listen, i'm not saying you should be forced to use it. just... i happen to like old newsprint. and the scent of gasoline.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351572 << i ~also~ like old newsprint. but not simply from the moire pattern in the photos, but because TEXT WAS BLACK
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:17:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351282 << am i a bad person if i actually prefer the upper version ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351565 << bad picture. the effect is considerably less annoying in photos, and virtually invisible in a video - which is HOW THEY GOT AWAY with having SHARED blue pixels
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 06:51:07; phf: ;;later tell asciilifeform another minimal unix http://ulixos.org, this one is 31k loc of noweb. has threads and fs caching
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351490 << this is yet another 'school os' - it has x86 32-bit retardation heavily baked in. pretty useless for our cause imho.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351549 << we don't need a db in the usual, general sense. we need an indexer for the things we need an indexer for.
BingoBoingo: what the fuck
BingoBoingo: ^ Oh shit a Havelol made the main channel ticker
BingoBoingo: Which will also be their recruiting slogan
BingoBoingo: But they'll prolly unveil it as gender.me
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punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351377 << so the feds just wanna keep more of it to offset budget cuts?
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:06:33; mircea_popescu: the oh-so-precious "alternative means solar, wind and any other inefficiency" lobby can push it's "the only energy source that works doesn't work - buy our shit" narrative.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351645 << stumbled across these centrally planned lulz the other day http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/details/beitrag/eu-trade-case--120-companies--associations-to-participate-in-mip-expiry-review_100022550/
punkman: I'd guess UStards expect the default state of things to be microwave-safe, whereas other people expect "it will probably catch fire/melt/etc"
jurov: banknotes too ignite in microwave. better recall them!
BingoBoingo: The hazards of metallic inks
ben_vulpes: bloody wacky thestringpuller
punkman: sqlite could work fine for the foreseeable future, main objection is that it comes with unneeeded complexity/kiloLOC
mircea_popescu: i thought the initial sync's being discussed.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:40:34; mircea_popescu: punkman well that's maybe a point, but nevertheless it currently uses one, and it uses one mostly to update and insert
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351677 << do we have any measurements? if I had to guess I'd say there's a lot more reads than writes (after initial sync at least)
BingoBoingo: Yeah, gotta do that. And change the password.
thestringpuller: error: You must set rpcpassword=<password> in the configuration file:
thestringpuller: nope. i set all the flags on cli like in mircea_popescu 's example
punkman: thestringpuller: do you have a config file? might need to pass it along with getinfo
thestringpuller: db.log has one line >> 'unable to join the environment'
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:09:51; mircea_popescu: anyway. this is how bitcoin ended up with bdb i suspect. infinitydb might be an option. they all suck.
punkman: bdb does not have a server either
mircea_popescu: punkman well that's maybe a point, but nevertheless it currently uses one, and it uses one mostly to update and insert
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: check debug.log?
thestringpuller: okay so it ran, but doing an RPC call: `LC_ALL="C" ./bitcoind -rpcuser=leffuy -rpcpassword=moomooman getinfo` killed the daemon
mircea_popescu: many reads few writes is a particular usecase, not really what's at work in the cases discussed.
punkman: mircea_popescu: the largest one had compressed web pages and metadata, but pretty much anything that doesn't need a db server
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 04:58:44; mircea_popescu: You can then run this with something like LC_ALL=C nohup ./bitcoind -myip=<yourip> -addnode=trusted_node_1 -addnode=trusted_node_2 -verifyall 2>&1 &
thestringpuller: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): You must set myip=<ipaddress> on the command line or in the configuration file:
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351542 << I've worked with some fairly large sqlite dbs, obviously if you are doing a full table scan on 500gb of data, it's not gonna be fast, but it motherfucking works.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller nop.
mircea_popescu: there's at least fifty billion "market research" houses more than happy to provide one with this crap.
thestringpuller: anywhere else they could be hiding?
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/068FQ43.txt << seriously, these derps classified as secret/foia extempt some derp-ass $50-a-pop market research crapolade that's ~maybe~ one step above a wikipedia cull ?
mircea_popescu: at any rate, "nsa laundered the vulnerabilities it planted in juniper firewalls through an offshore platform". britain, panama, whatever pacific island, what the hell's the difference.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351462 << BECAUSE, importantly, the only remaining function of the british colony, its only significant export and sole raison d'etre left is exactly this playing the extraterritorial base for the USG role. you know, obama is not spying on you, the queen is (and sharing the results). we hope this legalistic subtlety makes all the difference to you!
mircea_popescu: the oh-so-precious "alternative means solar, wind and any other inefficiency" lobby can push it's "the only energy source that works doesn't work - buy our shit" narrative.
mircea_popescu: " And the way to keep it from breaking is to replace all the bits that are listed on the replacement schedule no later than the dates indicated on that schedule. It's either that or the thing goes Ka-boom! and everyone's hair falls out." << yes, except for the cynical west that actually wouldn't mind a few more nuclear "accidents". so what if they were fully preventable, deliberately man-made disasters ? at least
mircea_popescu: if you don't keep the pipes above 0, they freeze. if they freeze they split. if they split you can't keep the [mostly concrete prefab] dwellings livable, not now, not ever.
mircea_popescu: repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet." <<< this much is exactly factual, as romania is well aware since its very difficult early 90s. as far as temperate habitation is concerned, you have strictly to options : either produce enough energy to keep the heating pipes unfrozen through the winter, or else lose the possibility of urban settlement and as a result return to 1800ish (the wor
mircea_popescu: "Now, here's what it all really means. With so much going wrong, the Ukraine has been unable to secure enough natural gas or coal supplies to provide a supply cushion in case of a cold snap this winter. A few weeks of frosty weather will deplete the supply, and then pipes will freeze, rendering much of the urban areas unlivable from then on (because, recall, there is no longer any money, or any industry to speak of, to
mircea_popescu: if not this bahamas, the next bahamas.
mircea_popescu: "Prime Minister Yatsenyuk was recently hauled off the podium by his crotch; how dignified is that?" << coming soon, to a white house near you.
mircea_popescu: heh. this perennial willingness to NOT discuss, if at all possible to UNdiscuss all the fuckups is so fucking dumb already.
mircea_popescu: "But for the US, and for the EU, it is now yet another major foreign policy embarrassment, and the less said about it the better."
mircea_popescu: but hey, at times i enjoy my painstakingly recreated version of the 80s.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 02:11:02; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/12/on-19th-day-of-christmas.html << add the 19 ukr fission plants to list-of-thing-you're-no-longer-down-wind-of
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351451 << i was rather distantly downwind of that. along with most everything else in the civilised world.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller so you got a bitcoin binary pressed ?
thestringpuller: mod6: ben_vulpes anyone seen this error? 'unable to join the environment' in db.log ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Yes. On the plus side now people have to read everything.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 13:40:58; mircea_popescu: midnightmagic http://qntra.net/2015/12/after-xt-failure-gavin-andresen-supports-jim-crow-for-signatures-on-the-blockchain/#comment-81695 << see ? why even bother. \
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-12-2015#1340277 << did old qntraments lose their db ids?
ben_vulpes: tonight is whitespace night in the sweet republic of bitcoin
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:38:37; linton_s_dawson: If something ca be done in an easy-to-use manner, it should be done. I'm aware of the "if you're too lazy to learn you don't deserve it" logic but I don't completely agree with it.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:29:00; ascii_field: thestringpuller: be grateful that you don't have to modular-exponentiate by hand.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351351 << yet. at the rate we're going, this is coming.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:25:35; linton_s_dawson: Anyone running thebitcoin.foundation client on a Raspberry Pi 2? I'd like to assemble a node and see if the Pi is a good idea.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351345 << not anyone afaik. theoretically speaking it wouldn't likely work too well yet - not enough resources on the pi to be a real node. nevertheless, as a didactic / research sort of project rather than something to go in production trying would be interesting, if for nothing else then because nobody;s tried it yet.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 20:42:20; ascii_field: jurov: IT MOTHERFUCKING IS NOT
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351296 << aww, i guess it does huh. listen, i'm not saying you should be forced to use it. just... i happen to like old newsprint. and the scent of gasoline.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 20:39:49; ascii_field: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Super-AMOLED-vs-Retina-Display-4.jpg << the 'pentile' thing returneth
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351282 << am i a bad person if i actually prefer the upper version ?
mircea_popescu: well... the drinking part anyway.
mircea_popescu: on the downwind of a sort of irish wake.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 19:58:01; ascii_field: but imho the db thing needs to be a simple mechanism written specifically for bitcoin
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351265 << this is probably true, but you know... gotta comprehend the data structures before this can be, gotta cut out a whole lotta crud out of the pastabowl before THAT can be, and so on.
ben_vulpes: corvette is hiding from the rain, wife is back in the kitchen, and child is inflating at normal biological rates
mircea_popescu: anyway. this is how bitcoin ended up with bdb i suspect. infinitydb might be an option. they all suck.
ben_vulpes: i know first hand the costs of making it do...stuff.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 19:50:53; ascii_field: it was the reason phuctor was sloooooooooooow
mircea_popescu: this is the problem of having a trb in the first place : the temptation to assume it's sane is just too great.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 19:47:18; ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351210 << didja '-connect' it ? or '-addnode' ? because the latter is 'merely suggestion'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351243 << aww fuck. i forgot that stupidity's still in there.
ben_vulpes: how the fuck on earth is one supposed to know if the original text had \n, \r, \r\n or whatever the original hodgepodge of linefeeds was to begin with?
ben_vulpes: armor -- most poorly-named flag in the history of nix tools.
mircea_popescu: goes in the summary header of "gpg is a pos".
ben_vulpes: i must be the last person to have figured this out or something.
ben_vulpes: 'cause i'm looking at 2 text files with different shasum 256's and the precise same text except for linefeeds
BingoBoingo: Also funkenstein if you may any comments on Qntra last week you gotta remake them. If you didn't you still have to make new comments anyways.
funkenstein_: Speaking of potatoes: Tensions rise in Europe when the Russian government announces that it is launching a new business start-up called Tuber, described as like Uber, except with tanks.
funkenstein_: musical arranger of note, named after bitcoinica something or other
gribble: The operation succeeded.
phf: ;;later tell asciilifeform another minimal unix http://ulixos.org, this one is 31k loc of noweb. has threads and fs caching
shinohai: Victoria got testy when called out on their spam lel. My 4th twitter block this year.
BingoBoingo: props for that go to /r/buttcoin for their archive bot
asciilifeform: https://theintercept.com/2015/12/23/juniper-firewalls-successfully-targeted-by-nsa-and-gchq << as seen here.
asciilifeform: '19 nuclear reactors are in operation, with 2 more supposedly under construction. And this is in a country whose economy is in free-fall and is set to approach that of Mali or Burundi! The nuclear fuel for these reactors was being supplied by Russia. An effort to replace the Russian supplier with Westinghouse failed because of quality issues leading to an accident.'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/12/on-19th-day-of-christmas.html << add the 19 ukr fission plants to list-of-thing-you're-no-longer-down-wind-of
phf: so kind of like "we have this system we don't know how it works but we need to get the data out"
asciilifeform: mats: if you were to move to mordor, there is a cataclysmic undersupply of reversers
mats: the applied sort ?
mats: it has been busy at the kitten recycling plant
mod6: hm. i like what it does, but not every turd probably belongs in the chain.
mod6: i think they both do it.
mod6: <+trinque> thestringpuller: the script had dos line endings, which is why in recent logs I mentioned running it through dos2unix << wat?
thestringpuller: damn the things we take for granted like character encoding ~_~
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla_ Server ran away. My backups were incomplete in the comment area. Merry X-mas to you too.
trinque: thestringpuller: likely munged it when doing that
thestringpuller: also i had to scrub the newlines cause my system kept being all '\r' command not found!
trinque: thestringpuller: the script had dos line endings, which is why in recent logs I mentioned running it through dos2unix
deedbot-: [Qntra] US DO"J" Stops Sharing Bounty Of Theft With Locals - http://qntra.net/2015/12/us-doj-stops-sharing-bounty-of-theft-with-locals/
trinque: thestringpuller: ...dpaste some output, man.
thestringpuller: mod6: dunno if it's just my system but my system is interpreting the script all weird like...
trinque: moreover, easy-to-use is a much more subjective/arbitrary notion than the complexity of the thing, which is greatly reduced by having removed the GUI.
trinque: linton_s_dawson: my grep -Ri 'qt' . in the src directory suggests everyone does have to use cli.
linton_s_dawson: If something ca be done in an easy-to-use manner, it should be done. I'm aware of the "if you're too lazy to learn you don't deserve it" logic but I don't completely agree with it.
linton_s_dawson: Maybe the BitSeed guys need to be more flexible with the clients they install on their HW nodes. I'll reach out to them.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: be grateful that you don't have to modular-exponentiate by hand.
thestringpuller: mod6: i have to pull these keys by hand? :\
linton_s_dawson: Anyone running thebitcoin.foundation client on a Raspberry Pi 2? I'd like to assemble a node and see if the Pi is a good idea.
thestringpuller: 19:45 <+cazalla_> ;;later tell BingoBoingo y u delete muh star wars comment from qntra? censorship! need to put qntra on a blockchain obv :P << i think it got deleted in the qntra restore. I highly enjoyed that comment though. Everyone complainin' bout spoilers all srs like at work all fucking day. Come home to read the comment, damn I was in tears. Miss you cazalla.
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jurov: i have used interlaced CRT daily for years, i believe that did the trick
ascii_field: for the train. but no such luck.
punkman: and barely anyone talks about these in specs
jurov: well... either you pay several times for stuff or detrain your neurons
jurov: so? your eyes don't address every cell either
ascii_field: wtf THERE IS NOT AN ADDRESSABLE BLUE FOR EVERY COORDINATE
jurov: and srs, what distance do you use? i can use the pentile display from over half meter away exactly because i have good eyes
ascii_field: except that in the end, 'real thing' ends up costing 10x as much as previously, once the crap flood hits, and shortly - vanishes entirely
ascii_field: but this is a classic case of 'this thing that is actually half the thing you thought you were paying for is JUST AS GOOD AND SHUDDUP'
ascii_field: or if you have congenitally impaired sense organs - then perhaps also yes
ascii_field: otherwise - no
ascii_field: if you grew up in new york sewers, then yes
ascii_field: jurov: IT MOTHERFUCKING IS NOT
ascii_field: http://cdn.androidcommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/pentile-matrix1-540x221.jpg << for anyone who missed the ancient thread
ascii_field tried to buy 'nyooo! improooved!' tablet gadget and found that the pentile pixel scam is pestilentially universal
ascii_field: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Super-AMOLED-vs-Retina-Display-4.jpg << the 'pentile' thing returneth
ascii_field: it pretty much has to be compiled in at the lowest possible level of abstractio
jurov: not that, verifying packet signatures and the like
jurov: linux has now scriptable firewall(nftables) , maybe we end up hooking to that. but database with persistent storage is afaik not there yet
ascii_field: personally i'm interesting in items which make kernelization ~easier~ rather than harder (the latter from, e.g., requiring mmap)
ascii_field: but imho the db thing needs to be a simple mechanism written specifically for bitcoin
ascii_field: or anything that assumes there being enough ram to adequately cache disk
ascii_field: or other ultra-ram-poor archs
ascii_field: it was the reason phuctor was sloooooooooooow
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 18:19:33; thestringpuller: ascii_field: what are you doing on the field the day before xmas?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 18:07:22; mircea_popescu: ascii_field the problem with other hypothesis being that i connected it to your nodes.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351210 << didja '-connect' it ? or '-addnode' ? because the latter is 'merely suggestion'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351091 <<< looks like he cashed out, not like the idiots who lost coins to him were not warned, rather lulzy
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for liquidassets from 1 to -1 with note: continues to babble
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the problem with other hypothesis being that i connected it to your nodes.
ascii_field: about half of the 4MB rotor bin is openssl crud
ascii_field: these are absolutely necessary if nodes are to have identity (which is a must if we want to have node ranking)
ascii_field: none of this is to say that we don't need node authentication & crypto
ascii_field: this ties up the db i/o
ascii_field: but the way it is done is much simpler than i imagined
ascii_field: now the thing is, this IS artificial
assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 17:29:04; mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, the new rotor has been mightily blackholed since last night (the usual array described here multiple times), it's got ~20k blocks through in a day or so.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351186 << see this alternate hypothesis, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347639
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't mean ssl, either.
mircea_popescu: notably, this only conceivably works because, obviously, the blocks are communicated plain. we definitely should have internode encryption.
mircea_popescu: would make sense, too, as part of a wider strategy to murder the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: it appears to me asciilifeform that the way the blackholing works is as an interdiction to communicating old blocks.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, the new rotor has been mightily blackholed since last night (the usual array described here multiple times), it's got ~20k blocks through in a day or so.
thestringpuller: And I'm like "WTF. Who the fuck is going to underwrite those contracts when even the trustworthy don't want to deal with it?!?"
thestringpuller: just other day some derp was like "We'll just short the bitcoin market if it doesn't fork the way we want."
thestringpuller: so i think it's just lost cause, the only defense we have is WoT