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(trilema) ben_vulpes: mk well they're even tapping into the local welfare spigot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: connectivity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: FLYPLYMOUTH has developed a plan to reopen Plymouth airport, reintroducing aviation services and air passenger services that is stepped and incrementally profitable at each stage. We believe that this objective is deliverable in two to three years and that by working together with the City around a demonstrably credible plan supported by independent feasibility analysis Plymouth will be able to benefit from new job creation and better
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we lower bureaucrats into pederasty.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and what world is this where scammers take cash to build out a model and then verify it with bureaucrats?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's what it meant in the context of the us banking retardation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: novel scamhold is what i hear.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what the fuck is a stress test
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what am i missing here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but let's start with the "how is anyone involved qualified to derp near expensive-ass capital equipment"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i read the thread.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: DAFUQ AIRPLAINES?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and then disappear
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make everyone feel really cool for investing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rent an office
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buy some ad space
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what they will do for their investors?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tiberius, is that you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up bitcoinfailed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: drowning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque and i were wondering about their CLIM implementations, and if documentation etc was better on the closed-source side of the world
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai, asciilifeform: are the commercial lisps worth paying for?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rewriting the block explorer now, Adlai ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: genuinely asinine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what brings you by, Lk4_DPB ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/05/how-a-grad-student-uncovered-a-huge-fraud.html << merit washing plus "social science" leads to lulz in short order
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;calc 20 * 700
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have we done 20 meg bastard block accumulation yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those bandwidth charges, eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [10:29] previously it was rock concerts, but that kind-of died somehow << it mutated into the 'festival' circuit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: of course there is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there a russian equivalent to cursive?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i refuse to take notes on a computer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> interestingly, the longer i go without writing by hand, the more this part of brain rots << expected behavior
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and hyu with that auto-downloading pdf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: referredbyloper: and who are you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quick poll: who writes in cursive?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: selinux? when what hum how?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, that's a nifty muntzing in the first one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: some several tb of disk would be nice
(trilema) ben_vulpes dreams of a box beefy enough to run sync tests for every patch submitted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "*** Update 7/18/06 *** You have to give the California Department of Motor Vehicles (the DMV) credit for creativity on this one. A DMV insider has disclosed to me that the DMV has made a formal request to a federal agency to rule if my Beetle constitutes a threat to national security based on what could happen if it got into the wrong hands."" << hah news to me since the last time i looked at the
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: sorta like the proverbial 'jet engine on a ford pinto' situation. << obligatory: http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have not, no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: noooo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twasn't serious.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why not just rewrite the memory allocation engine at this point, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> about to try this. << still failing to parse
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *.x << contains thermonuke?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: intentionally filling a 0.5.3.x with orphans?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interdasting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probly best to reserve congratulations for when it survives that first night on the porch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then the machine ran out of paper and there were many windows error modals
(trilema) ben_vulpes: many measurements
(trilema) ben_vulpes: naw, just the sonogram
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (it's a boy)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> i do agree, pets must be exercised properly << exercise for pets. yokes for my oxen, saddles for my horses, mice for my cats, and coyotes for my dogs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not husbandry in the marital sense, ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: livestock vs pets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> when i say 'pet' i mean very specific technical term, 'creature kept around for company that isn't required to produce milk, pull cart, turn millstone' << opposite of good husbandry, ftr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> gavin & the merry band of shitgnomes used their magic key to transmit 'Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!' << 'alerts' can be delivered per-node?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [01:32] rather, it is a u.s. aircraft carrier - which simply happens to be made of earth << girl and i both lold
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have to say that i'm having trouble holding the whole keysmashing party in my head
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > obvious proggy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it's not inflationary except in how it is"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "One thing it has done, however, is put a renewed rocket under asset prices. From fine art and metropolitan property prices, to bond markets and equities, seemingly everything has gone through the roof."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "It is also true that contrary to much prediction at the time, it has not proved particularly inflationary."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <cazalla> which is why i stay and suffer << bail with the bairn?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> well aintcha a little bush hero :D << lzlzoll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <cazalla> fwiw i dont think anyone needs to be taught to cook << nah man it's applied thermo, it must needs be taught or learned through experience
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "The net result was that all Bitcoin nodes (lightweight and heavyweight) on the local Wi-Fi network were unable to connect to any Bitcoin nodes except for the local node, which they discovered via DNS." << and this is an argument for dns in core *how*?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no, someone thinks that's a grand idea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude bitcoin-development 2015 is turning into bitcointalk.org 2012
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover, bitcoining on other peoples networks is bad, mk?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spv's bad, mk?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "so I poisoned the DNS and rejected all outbound connection attempts on port 8333, to force all the wallets to connect to a single local full node, which had connectivity to a single remote node over the Internet. Thus, all the lightweight wallets at the festival had Bitcoin network connectivity, but we only needed to backhaul the Bitcoin network's transaction traffic once."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: "The U.S. has spent, adjusted for deprecationThe U.S. has spent, adjusted for deprecation"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not depreciation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felipelalli: that'd be mircea_popescu or kakobrekla
(trilema) ben_vulpes: besides, it gives the chan this nice feeling of inhabitedness even during the dark lonely hours
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but one coculd*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_modem> pure noise imho << aye, but let people /ignore assbot themselves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [15:09] note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT. << aha i didn't follow this one. link?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, what were you thinking?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have a spike of a pgptron comment engine but it's nothing serviceable for use
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and it's not pillar-sittin, it's pure time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: with my current availability even php's not an option, js is the only stopgap that'd word
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wow how'd you make that estimate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, this is sort of a 'club' for code. it'd never stop a smart or determined attacker, but it renders the cost of the heist somewhat higher than i warrant many would pay.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, if it's worth your time to resell the thing after writing a transform for it...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you mean everywhere?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't follow, sorry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so no not impossible, or low value, or necessary even to destroy the code
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and then they have the problem of "what was it before"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or several, but unique across clients
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but it would be trivial to change one random symbol name per client license
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i may be insane but i think a large fraction of the value in delivered code is that others can read and mod it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it verges on obfuscation, and at that point one may as well deliver a binary for all the "fits in head"ness it'll have.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: that's where i land
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is drm actually implementable?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis an honor and honesty thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iirc that conversation carried the context of hard guarantees.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh you solved drm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm like "a long weekend! i can get some /work/ done!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fluffypony's tripping around eu, you're derping around vbc and now eu, asciilifeform's off to the woods for the weekend, mircea_popescu's on permananent unvacation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus keypocalypse
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda have a lot on my plate atm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a movie and a beer is a nice way to put my brain into idle for 3 hours but after that i don't really want to waste any more cycles on the pulp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude i don't know that i care enough
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not an entirely unredeemable piece of ableist propaganda
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have been derping at a bit about mad max but i don't know if i'll ever poop it out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: been doing that since i was like 14 or something
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh i post photos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we are all lazy shitstains?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: i think the qualified are all taking the weekend off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell williamdunne wither scoopbot this time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa williamdunne not around?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dafuq did you write that thing in, williamdunne?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucknaut lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: derping against complicated processes is my lot in life
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll redo them all.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: must be extreme derpitude
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> no fucking way am i adding 50 lines of code to deal with chrome's speshul. << WELCOME, BROTHER
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: i signed the patches as i downloaded them with my mail client.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bezzleplay, mircea_popescu.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: focus on milking the fools and don't worry about the cheaters.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: same thing microsoft does. 'you have a copy of my software, pay up'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a fiat contract, not a serenissima contract.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "you may use this yourself, diddle its internals as you see fit, but you may not distribute it to others"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BigCorp wants training software, is willing to pay for the professional services to make it happen and another chunk of cash for the software already written.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but for a bezzleplay, it ain't bad.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: y'can't, i know.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: else", unenforceable just like the rest of the gpg contracts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: send this code around to anyone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes in particular it's unclear to me how wise the "licenses" angle is for a serenissima derivative. while i declined to anull IP when diametric asked earlier, i am very very far from any sort of belief that the current model of that stack of stupidity has any sort of hope for survival. << i figured (perhaps stupidly) that IP would take the form of gpg signatures on "i will not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably fucked it up some way
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xmitted a *mess* of resigned patches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right before the release
(trilema) ben_vulpes: professional services and licenses for the custom ware the software so produced run on?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is gabriel_laddel's business model really that bad?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was anticipating some really lame dsp-by-hand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but now mebbe raspi!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was going to wire it up to a microphone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no hw with gpio, but now that you mention rpi mebbe i should try that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks jurov
(trilema) ben_vulpes: `curl log.bitcoin-assets.com | sudo sh`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "use libtool" << so as to speak "just type libtool at the prompt"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <jurov> and run ldconfig << that was it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm in no rush
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks for the python bro
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah this is gentoo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/1SJBXB5.txt << previous experience lead me to expect `make install` to, well, install all of the relevant things. trinque, asciilifeform: any obvious mistakes or bad thoughts on my part you'd care to rectify?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <davout> i'm afraid if i try on an ec2 box i'll accidentally break the internet << "we can therefore we must"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: because i'm an esl derp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.bubblear.com/reminder-get-cash-before-the-weekend/ << lol for all the printing they still can't keep atms full?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey bitstein
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/family/nailgun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably wants to spend more time with his family
(trilema) ben_vulpes: re: F-35 << "shuttle" debacle all over again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: christ the braindamage.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: claims to have read the logs, even!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a leading poker bot takes 12 TB of compressed data
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol you thought bitcoin needed space
(trilema) ben_vulpes: everyone in that class fails out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "generas unique design makes it possible to make logic changes and feature enhancements to it on the fly without disrupting day-to-day operations of your users" << asciilifeform but how?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you don't have a day to do it correctly, you don't need to be in bitcoin badly enough
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude it takes a day to set up a rock solid btc infrastructure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as with dance, sex, wine, etc. skin in the game as a prerequisite for competence.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the only way to get good at it is to do it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and /routinely/.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: isaackl: your 'wallet' experiment also suffers from the inescapable existence of ease of use and security of cryptographic goods at opposite poles.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's scaring people off (which is unimportant, but let's pretend for a moment) is the horrendous shitpile that the bitcoin source actually is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if they want btc, they get btc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they have staff.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: besides, securing physical things comes down to guns.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assuming that you can even amass a quantity of the real stuff, and aren't playing with paper.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: big, obvious, easily walked off with by your local government.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: isaackl: gold has this vault problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was going to go to sleep
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is no better money.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in all universes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: difference between what one expects the monetary base to do and what it's actually doing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is "real" inflation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is ASSETTTTTS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my problem is finding the things that fit in my head
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "this coordinate system is highly unportable, and it always ended up being an intermediate stage to some other coordinate system. Thus this coordinate system has been exorcised and should be avoided in the future. JPM 1-29-91" << i am actually growing to love software archaeology
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poor thing, no wonder she's spending her life in my little pony chans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah i'm going to find her photo and then doxx her
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when did vexual get unbanned?
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