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(trilema) ben_vulpes: b-b-but that's insane
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what do you mean "answer": attempt to talk to the provided IP instead of the connection abstraction provided by the machine?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myes, i see that. what i'm not 100% on is the impact to the receiving node of having garbage in that field.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm rusty on this particular bit of logic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i might be colossally retarded this is always possible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: by virtue of the socket being opened, the receiving node should be able to just write to that (file descriptor, i think is the abstraction?) and let the NIC handle the package addressing - correct?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a) how is this an actually necessary thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah this gets back to my question about the necessity of the IP address in the protocol.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more vendored dependencies!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha well i'll be testing it on my own checkbook's back anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i think the ask is for a long-running public node.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rechristen la serenissima's bitcoin host as the bitcoin foundation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the rechristening
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if you're willing to donate the cost, why not run it through the bitcoin host?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wouldn't be the foundation mircea_popescu so much as my personal account
(trilema) ben_vulpes has lost track of all the zappings from unexpectedly electrified...trees
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> yes, it is better to be smart and active than it is to be stupid and active. << balanced against that "impotent activity"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> !up ben_vulp` << 'tis the french pronounciation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh because a wallet is really a collection of the inputs that a key or set of keys can sign on and so a 'wallet' in the satoshi client parlance is actually not back=up-able if in use?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wai wut how do they not break backups.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover, what all is in this list of 'must be done'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suppose you'd have us leave testnet in as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is the incurred complexity needed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: re: accounts thread and data structures, this imho is why the change addr behavior mneeds a zappin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: what kind of braindamage are youdealing with oday?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (ip passing, i mean to say)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000099.html << ah it warms my heart. as an aside, is theshooping in the message protocol actually necessary for anything?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: most recently, boost failed to install because its html document rendering facility was b0rked in ubuntu somewhere and the whole thing fell over
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm still working to get the damn thing to build on ubuntu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is it? great artists steal?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/without/before
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't read whole log without responding
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> also the gurl has valuable illiquid asset. << not so valuable if illiquid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or yessterday or something?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha is midnightmagic derping on about things beyond his ken today?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, the tradetalk's back!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: orbital body
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've seen a bit more of the same lately.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hamityvill horror
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hamrock trapped in a hamity well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hamplanetoid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what hardware an i use to capture that, though? i'm blocked on true serial capture until i procure a device that has true serial in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sorry, analog-digital capture
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: need a digital-analog capture story
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'something jimmies' < hyu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the people have such cool hair!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so friendly!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and django does so much thinking for me!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: math is hard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't handle relational algebra
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: but sql's scary
(trilema) ben_vulpes: everyone goes home politely but the vagrants
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, lights on the tennis court turn out at ten
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell shinohai what platform did you end up compiling bitcoind on?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: might be wrong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think these are straight up radio
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this was less eerie two nights ago at 1 in the morning.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: many many people with headphones dancing to music only they can hear
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is a "silent dance party" occuring at the park down the street
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> esp in odessa << ehe late as always, i am
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> how is "working undercover" what you do when you << couldn't possibly be real. lulzy satire of the state of the state tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mebbe in that it'll drive you insane..
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a little stained tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have a spare robe for him
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wow that's quite a wall of text
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unacceptabru!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now if anyone can tell me what the ever loving hell that actua.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fix for missing cdefs.h on ubuntu 14.04 was "g++-multilib"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways for future logreaders and software archaeologists:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one would think, and yet openssl won't compile without cdefs.h apparently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: /usr/include/features.h:374:25: fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory << novel and exciting failures in compiling openssl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: almost exactly! except it's pulled by my giant dog instead of any sort of horse
(trilema) ben_vulpes off for a bit of motoring with pets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: corvette
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes asciilifeform it is "rusted solid" on the inside.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks for the advice all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://imgur.com/pE2zQPQ
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> how many three-legged tables, chairs ? << i for one would rather have three-legged furniture: 3 points define a plane; any more and you have an overconstrained and rocking system
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in what world is that nsfw?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: it *did* totally work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: loosen her up with these big old binaries
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i prefer to abuse mother postgres
(trilema) ben_vulpes: an hero-kun!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: IMAGES INTO POSTGRES BINARY FIELD WOOO
(trilema) ben_vulpes: users want to upload images
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heroku does not persist state
(trilema) ben_vulpes: client is using heroku
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not really a rare model, guise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have all the light sequences in this town timed by memory
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but what about the tranny?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: suggesting i hold out, then?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no they're /thooper/ tholdierth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more like a fashion accessory
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clean title, correct vintage, but automatic VS rebuilt title, not really the perfect vintage, and manual
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so help me out here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'change addr' << i have banged on at length about this brain damage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: galois's in on the btc-usg-bezzle?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: old story, shinohai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just say no to python 3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i suppose that i just don't understand how the (c, unix, haskell, programmering) world actually works
(trilema) ben_vulpes tried haskell once, irreperably borked the install, never touched it again. will never trust its advocates claims re: "bug free cuz static static really static awesome type system ftw"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cabal install cabal-install
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell nubbins` didja ever get past the eulora new account screen?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tisn't so much school, ascii_field, as a hedge against further retardifying the spawn
(trilema) ben_vulpes: read the bible three times, numbers in particular.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: latin, french
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make 'em do math and physics by hand and computer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh give him a break - the canuks get all their ideas from their southern protector
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not a bad outcome.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i also suspect that the initial stable of teachers will actually be the parents. nobody else is going to give a shit and la serenissima runs on deficits anyways.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: teachers'll have to order parents to do so, as the thing of necessity'll have to run over teh wotnet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: let's start a school
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski if your kids need mavis beacon, something's gone horribly wrong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: evaporated quickly, though. nobody likes working for ungrateful derps - not even commie engineers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was particularly amused that the one part of the park that worked - eg infrastructure team - partook of no such nonsense. had leadership that delegated.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: did indeed!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat pickaxe, ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "The process favored those with the most time, as meetings tended to drag out for hours" "Some called it “feminist process,” for it seemed to embody feminist ideals of participation, inclusion, and egalitarianism. " << some derps sit around and derp while other people are making decisions and setting the wheels in motion. is it any wonder that the kochs always win and occupy always loses?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelated: on the quakers, consensus and 'activism' in america: http://berkeleyjournal.org/2015/05/the-theology-of-consensus/
(trilema) ben_vulpes is rebuilding eulora from scratch. again.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: might be able to acquire a tower or something with an i5 to play eulora
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque reported two thinkpads i wanted to acquire
(trilema) ben_vulpes: local sommolier
(trilema) ben_vulpes: went to get a garbagebox from freegeek.org yesterday - "tuesday through saturday"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, me for certain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> pingin' ben_vulpes along with erryone else. << getting gentoo boxen for uclibc and cross-compilation's knocked mod6 and i on our asses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> but anyway. maybe i'll get a chance to compile eulora on osx by sunday << if you figure out how lmk, i failed to do so miserably
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least you weren't programming?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll work on dirty bits too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to beg a copy of trinque's tools and go murder parts of the economy he's not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque likes to bang on about how it was designed as an end-user-programming environment for accountants
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: get intimate with the sql
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what'd you do in WS?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is teh desktop environment even strictly speaking necessary?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah i plan to run stump
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should i skip the desktop environment?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whadday'all use for desktop environments, if any? i've inserted ubuntu into this mac and now need to make it usable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the update manager nags me about 14.04 every time i run apt-get
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more open source hurray
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't support tap-to-click
(trilema) ben_vulpes: found an ubuntu partition on my ancient mac
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the rocks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ALL I HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE IS NEATS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat, trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat, danielpbarron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i just keep failing/to compile/crystal space/on my mac/ooh ooh ooh (to the tune of https://youtu.be/Urdlvw0SSEc?t=49)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to go stand in the sun and burn the open source off of my face.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chetty's going to post me a tarball to try, i expect it to behave the precisely same way
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have also done the same thing with various svn checkouts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: downloaded tarball, ran ./configure, configure script asks for password for crystal@crystalspace3d.org , fails to produce jam or makefiles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: personal verification.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hugely visible on sonar i imagine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: incredibly vulnerable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: incredibly expensive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude what is the damn point of a sub
(trilema) ben_vulpes: crystalspace 2.0 confirmed to be broken on os x
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you're familiar with asciilifeform's story about sponsors of foreigners in the states taking mortgages out in the foreigners names?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think i have 3 concurrent "identity theft protection" contracts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not even certain that anyone builds this on os x regularly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if this fails i'll download a stable tarball and try that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now i'm just trying to compile the latest
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was trying to package and upload an msi or some other such madness
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the first fun bit was when the configure script for chetty's specified version of cs actually asked me for the password to crystal@crystalspace3d.org's account...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't think they're terribly weird, but what do i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes attempts to compile crystalspace on os x for the third time today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: smaller teams, smaller balls, smaller field but more or less.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm thinking futsal for next winter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how so nuts? you're far away from the equator.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <shinohai> added to pr0nbot: https://i.imgur.com/g94RGlL.jpg << hardly porn
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right on, mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> open source is an open invitation to waste your life debugging stupid shti << my life
(trilema) ben_vulpes: link, mircea_popescu ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he's funny from time to time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: someone eyed him, you see!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lathe fits in head.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, i learned their use. can't say as i 'know' them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i expected them to work as the lathe does
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i learned then next to the lathe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm starting to not be surprised by the failure of modern computing tools
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> what i did not have time to do is to measure whether this had the intended effect. << how would you measure fragging?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: meowmix808andheartbreaks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apt-cache madison ??? what the hell.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis —from due process to scientific method — are dismissed as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ask him, not me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kako turned them off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla and williamdunne had a slapfight over titles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it provided a nice indexing of links
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i too miss titlebot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (communisticism!)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't think further splits are avoidable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh le scoop?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ˘source of what?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just take the magic digits that identify me as a ("loyal") subject of the crown
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they want me to scan in my passport and upload it to their secure portal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am opening a "health savings account"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: today in fiatderping news
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i didn't opt into the US legal regime either
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: hey that's neat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: super_important_passwords.gpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: derpy_web_passwords.gpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: passwords.gpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: webify all the things!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > broke dicks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am exhausted of fucks

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