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asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: the story ends there.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: believe or not, i once wrote to the various folks claiming to have the 6216
mircea_popescu: the arabs also aren't all that keen.
mircea_popescu: <mats> int'l law: for other people that are not usg. << it's widely reported in ru and chinese. "everyone"
mircea_popescu: whether that may mean gawker or tinder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the whole shebang's not worth 10mn.
adlai: for the classically-challenged lurkers: it's the last chapter of The Once and Future King, by T. H. White
adlai recommends people read the last submission... rediscovered it while browsing a bathroom bookshelf
thestringpuller: btcd the go thing?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: e.g., 'brothers, we will take washington together, you'll see'
asciilifeform: mats: usg does not believe in the sovereignty of any other crown anywhere
mats: int'l law: for other people that are not usg.
asciilifeform: no mention of kurt tank in the ^ oddly
assbot: The Rise and Fall of the Argentine Air Force | Defensionem ... ( http://bit.ly/1JmM5y1 )
asciilifeform: btw does mircea_popescu intend to read the winblowz nt source too ?
mircea_popescu: what is wrong with these idiots.
mircea_popescu: " Bitcoin is described by enthusiasts as potentially being bigger than the Internet itself (a claim I can’t seem to understand, considering that Bitcoin is an Internet-powered technology),"
asciilifeform: as demonstrated by the nano-ecc folks
asciilifeform: not because it was written by hitler, but because the thing is 50x the mass it needs to be.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found the prb ecdsa thing quite distasteful
mircea_popescu: mod6 i don't think we can not read the wtf is that thing called
mircea_popescu: now of course, what exactly is the mempool as far as each node is concerned varies, and the miner's nodes especially. so it's an iffy thing. anyway.
mircea_popescu: oldest txn still from the 18th.
mircea_popescu: well... we also have to eval the new scp251 or w/e package.
asciilifeform: is the only reason i didn't do it.
mod6: So yep, pretty much same results as yesterday, althought it is noteable that not passing any flag at all ; no txns were dropped on the floor. They wern't malleated yesterdayr either, so it could have just been lots of spam yesterday or something similar.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, and unrelatedly to the "magic numbers" avenue of trb improvement : one obvious anbd cheap hardening for trb would be to allow the user control of entropy source.
mod6: Everything looks ok to me. When not specifying a highs or lows flag, txn went through just fine no malleation. When '-lows' flag was passed, txn went through just fine, no malleation. WHen the '-highs' flag was passed, txns were malleated, as expected.
mod6: i conducted a second live-fire test today with the changes submitted by mircea_popescu & asciilifeform, here are the results: http://dpaste.com/29928TB.txt
pete_dushenski: possibly or not possibly, it's the only thing i changed between yesterday and today. and the lag is gone.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: true enough. relatedly, 'tevye' is now running like a champ, keeping up with even asciilifeform's s00perbalticn0de. the difference ? aws banhammer.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 22:07:22; adlai: ok. is there another conf anytime soon?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Much to be said for the learning value of patch by hand in addition to doing V-presses
asciilifeform: somebody here (ben_vulpes?) even learned cpp just for the occasion.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i read the patches, though admittedly little code. i'm probably not even competent enough to need gas mask though, so no worries. amor fati.
asciilifeform: the ultimate authority on what the crock of shit actually does is the selfsame crock of shit.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: observe that even mircea_popescu has put on the apocalyptic gas mask and reads.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i must agree with BingoBoingo: sadly, reading the actual code is not optional
mircea_popescu: but you know, the miners will implement whatever pr-derps tell them to!111
mircea_popescu: yeah, there is that.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i can definitely say that the trb history is adding to ~my~ confusion, but i don't see that as something to be avoided. my hope is that i'll eventually make enough sense of this to relay it concisely to others. still much work to do, no doubt.
mircea_popescu: maybe the cutoff is at a tenth of a cent ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in a sane mempool scheme, a 2 cent payment does not guaranteedly remove a 1 cent one from the mempool.
mod6: 602 instances of numeric wizardy, yup. lot to track down there. but, thanks again. it needed doing.
mircea_popescu: the way this works is that i can say "take this and pay bob and keep a cent" and then later come and say "take this and pay alice instead and keep two cents", making the later guaranteed to overtake the former.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wouldn't it already be a thing if we had the fee-based mempool sorter ?
mircea_popescu: or otherwise we could say the reasons are thoroughly comprehensible as they are reprehensible and just hang the lot.
pete_dushenski: mod6: i actually found the monthly really very helpful, and i'm sure that i'll continue to find them of value. they're essential resources for shallowing out the steep learning curve :)
mircea_popescu: but such are the father's pistols. if only he were less of a drunk.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it wasn't that bad. but there's 1-200 man-hours in there easy going through all those cases and justifying them. not to mention that the ones that will need rewriting most llikely amount to two or three total rewrites of the codebase anyway.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wtf is rbf ? << Yet another weirdo script for double spending unconfirmed transactions with a higher fee. Only pheature is being more polite than just doing it as has always been possible
mircea_popescu: i understand that they have no option, being unable to do anything and ambitious enough to want to be seen doing things. nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: there is exactly 0 demang for all the crap these dudes keep trying to paint as "innovation".
mircea_popescu: "I still haven't found anyone that is asking for RBF." << pretty muchg the definitive word on that derpage.
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for taking the time to search through the code today and write it up.
BingoBoingo merely offering these comments so that at some point in the future members of our cult may be able to unironically honor each other with the title Doktor
asciilifeform: but if he does, it ought to chip away at rather than add to the confusion, imho.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> pete_dushenski: Anyways the way comprehensive exams work is you gotta rewrite the thing either over the summer term or next semester from scratch. Hopefully before you next write for the comprehensive exam you read code. << word.
mod6: pete_dushenski: if I may be so bold, Sir: Some helpful info you may find in the monthly statements from the foundation.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Dec 22 17:01:42 <mircea_popescu>Iin other news, "blocks" : 182731, << same system is now "blocks" : 347914. << almost there!
asciilifeform: these were the stimulus for the whole dns thermonuke thing
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: also recall the glibc agonies
assbot: An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part ii. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JmEa3H )
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 14:40:51; mircea_popescu: that once the current version being worked upon is released, we all do a whole-source scouring of spaces, and sign the independently generated results, which will be an immediate, other patch.
assbot: Pieter Wuille: "Opt-in RBF is not theft. It's indicating that you're not sure whether what you're submitting is the final form of the transaction" WTF ?!? : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1JmAD5A )
pete_dushenski: http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/3EE0/production/_87769061_33fd250e-5b35-4802-b575-be352ef87edb.jpg << pretty sure 99% of the internet is "smart like bill". lotta good it does them.
pete_dushenski: i did read come, while some of it made sense, much was chinese. but having gone through the process undoubtedly gave me the tools needed to launch my own public node. so there's that.
BingoBoingo: But props to pete_dushenski for trying to write for the comprehensive exam at this time.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Anyways the way comprehensive exams work is you gotta rewrite the thing either over the summer term or next semester from scratch. Hopefully before you next write for the comprehensive exam you read code.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 22:48:28; BingoBoingo: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << 7!
pete_dushenski: or maybe ben will be choked that i only mentioned him on the shitty part of the history thus far, who knows
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part ii. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrH83l )
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: It appears you failed the development history portion of your comprehensive exam. Must retake.
pete_dushenski: i literally spent the last 3 hours in channel, typing away, wondering why assbot wasn't picking up my links, totally unawares that i hadn't voiced myself. that's some kind of new low.
mircea_popescu: by which math, quoite, 6 in 2020, 12 in 2026, two years by 2038 (when something or the other will be fixed in boost, apud satoshi)
mircea_popescu: well... i would say 50^ of these two months are roughly due to the last year or so. so basically we'll be seeing +1 month / year indefinitely, as blocks can't get any fuller.
mircea_popescu: so i'm guessing... another 2-3 weeks for full sync, making a trb full sync take just about two months on a reasonable box.
mircea_popescu: Dec 22 17:01:42 <mircea_popescu>in other news, "blocks" : 182731, << same system is now "blocks" : 347914.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Any news on the Blizard front?
mircea_popescu: the sign bit is the difference.
asciilifeform: 'Unsigned integers differ from signed integers in that the latter include both positive and negative integers whereas the former include only positive integers.' << this is wrong in at least two places
asciilifeform: sadly i can find no other word.
asciilifeform: (no discussion of how and why we ended up with static build, omitting the whole pogo thing, astonishingly foggy description of what orphans/bastards were and WHY they had to go, i could go on, and on)
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 23:26:12; deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part ii. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/21/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-ii/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380409 << dun wanna make pete_dushenski cry, but this is a ~terrible~ summary, if i were whacked over the head and forgot about my patches, and had to re-learn them from that article, i'd have nfi what they were and why.
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part ii. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/21/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-ii/
BingoBoingo: Large brocks are bad for the children
shinohai: "the Bock Size Increase"
adlai would at least prefer a "tries hard but mostly fails", but will settle for "either retarted or usg" because it's 'nearly a laugh'
BingoBoingo: ot the greatest character guy, but he sure was pretty smart."
BingoBoingo: From the mines, Micheal Jordan edition: "MJ used to tell Johnny that “Tiger Woods is an idiot. I tried to help him, but the kid’s gonna get caught.” (we all know how that turned out). In order for a girl to get to MJ, she needed to go through 4 undercover former narcotics detectives just to speak to Michael. She had to be approved by all 4 to make sure she wasn’t gonna say a damn word about MJ to anyone. So there’s MJ, n
asciilifeform: adlai: that was from the thread concerning famous article 'artificial intelligence and natural stupidity'
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2014 21:29:47; asciilifeform: the idea in the article can (and has) been rephrased like this. if you remove all the 'suggestively-named strings' like 'understand' - and replace with 'gensyms' - e.g., 100324 - does the resulting machine still do or even appear to do anything of interest?
assbot: The Departed - Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZPNQLs )
BingoBoingo: Maybe your ergot friend can reveal the truth in a spiritual experience?
adlai dons gascuba mask and swims to the "don't be evil" bank
BingoBoingo: Why not google that string to see if there are already human translations. Or just swim across the Micheal Jordan river and ask someone a little browner than yourself?
BingoBoingo: It's useful to know which shitcoin it was this round and the record a running tab of what i++ next shitcoins are
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for Cristina from 1 to -1 with note: Una gran pérdida de tiempo. Disfrute su bolsillas de mierdas.
mircea_popescu: you're not angry at the chick for not putting out are you ?
mircea_popescu: yeh but i don't think that group of nuts would like you, or you them. meanwhile the usgod crowd... prolly. maybe. who knows.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 21:56:07; mircea_popescu: check it out alfie, your clone with less technical skills is running the usg's largest bank-department.
mircea_popescu: honestly, i have no complaint with the absence.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 21:43:57; mircea_popescu: well... it's what, 650kb, so then the idea is that it should be condensable in 10kb or so ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380266 << yes! and you can almost ~define~ 'sane system' this way. with the caveat that it can't be a non-orthogonal fudge like a program consisting of one line 'start_bitcoind()' nor anything in that spirit. ORTHOGONAL operators.
mircea_popescu: there's a very ample history of idiots thinking they may bypass this, starting with bitcoinica. i welcome more victims, gladly.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 21:34:22; mod6: has the following:
mircea_popescu: there's exactly zero leeway. noobs are noobs, and start at the noob place. whatever they may think of themselves. and the more they delay, the less they'll get for it. again irrespective of what they may think it's worth.
adlai: people do sometimes meet people outside of the internet!
mircea_popescu: fancy what we're discussing in 2016, "oh hey, 2012 never happened, let's pretend that we matter and there's no deathstar in orbit". derp.
adlai wonders whether he should re-rate mircea_popescu with the thing about "text, signed or otherwise"
mircea_popescu: i will, for the record, NEVER entertain anyone you propose for anything.
mircea_popescu: mostly because they are.
mircea_popescu: aaaand to make the matter quite plain, i've had it just about up to here witgh idiot jews who think they're exceptional. they aren't, the accomodation is 0, they;d better be fucking humble as if they're begging to avoid gang ass rape.
adlai: ok. is there another conf anytime soon?
adlai: if so, where's the price signal?
danielpbarron: seems to me it's easier to read when you can see the '{' and '}' line up
mircea_popescu: note that there's a great tendency to condense lines by "meaning". which is what alf's proposal to stick a && in that double if clause comes to.
danielpbarron: so why not put the whole proggy on one line
mircea_popescu: the reason the newline { is hated is because it eats a line. people generally want to cram stuff in their screens.
danielpbarron: I also prefer the '{' on a newline vs on same line as function name. But I haven't done nearly as much coding as those of you who hate these conventions so what do I know
mircea_popescu: this is a significant loss to everyone doing things that depend on the difference between one item and the other.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that when you go from |\techo\s"hello\sworld!";| to |\s\s\s\secho\s"hello\sworld!";| you really went from
mircea_popescu: how the code LOOKS and what the code SAYS are drastically different matters. the code should say the same to everyone, but looks are unimportant. this is the same age old fundamental distinction between alphabet and literacy and symbolism and "creativity".
danielpbarron: because then the code will always look the same no matter who views it
danielpbarron: so am I the only one that hates 'tab' and prefers spaces when coding?
assbot: John Ratcliff's Code Suppository: The Lightning Network Reality Check ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vc1G4b )
mircea_popescu: check it out alfie, your clone with less technical skills is running the usg's largest bank-department.
mircea_popescu: “Bitcoin the currency is going nowhere. There is nothing behind it, and if it was big the governments would stop it,” said Dimon. <<< :))
mircea_popescu: da fuck is "nakedcapitalism" anyway. the pompousness of these two-guys-and-their-hopes, 200 bucks in the bank ventures is nothing short of exactly what you'd expect.
mircea_popescu: "Yves here. Get a cup of coffee. This is a deep dive into how Bitcoin works from a payment systems perspective, and why the failure of promoters and journalists to look at it in those terms has led them to greatly overestimate its significance." << "come hear my very novel take on why bitcoin is not disruptive because it doesn't do the buzzword i think i understand and for this reason matters more than everything else!"
assbot: shrinknut comments on The ever humble Roger Ver, submits link to twitter account of Roger Ver, to tweet of Roger Ver, with twitter profile picture of Roger Ver, quoting Roger Ver, on forum controlled by Roger Ver. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VbZKbQ )
assbot: The ever humble Roger Ver, submits link to twitter account of Roger Ver, to tweet of Roger Ver, with twitter profile picture of Roger Ver, quoting Roger Ver, on forum controlled by Roger Ver. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZPEm31 )
mircea_popescu: well... it's what, 650kb, so then the idea is that it should be condensable in 10kb or so ?
thestringpuller: punkman: i'll rephrase "The Foundation gives me hope" :P
punkman: thestringpuller: I guess answer to my own question, "WoT provides practical solution". If derp wants to learn, learn from trusted teacher in WoT. << /me is waiting for Ada master in need of apprentice
punkman: "99% crapolade by weight" does not give hope. The work of the foundation is of course commendable and there is hope there.
mircea_popescu: mod6 ah makes sense, i was working off the prev release, which is actually incorrect.
thestringpuller: ^-- then cleanly shuts down
mod6: not sure what happened there. maybe your local branch doesn't have alf's latest 2?
mod6: has the following:
mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379586 << so i had the entire tree (all current patches in http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/patches) pressed out through alf's latest two. then i made the changes.
mircea_popescu: i gotta say the lulz delivery is satisfactory.
BingoBoingo: They can't even beg for bits-coin anymore so they gotta beg for a bits-coin they might eventually have
assbot: thouliha comments on Without official statement from miners and others, one should treat all reports of Classic losing support as subterfuge. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZPAi2z )
BingoBoingo: NINE TIMES A LOL: "We don't matter. What matters is begging the cartel of miners to adopt a change the community overwhelmingly wants." https://archive.is/cGTNK
mircea_popescu: or as a bullet between the eyes. either way.
shinohai: "I admire Dr. Pieter Wuille’s brilliant hack to deploy it as a soft fork. But despite being brilliant, the soft fork Segregated Witness is still a hack. A hack is dirty. Such a technology would be better implemented as hard fork.”
shinohai: I figured they weren't gonna say much until an "official announcement" despite Garzik trying to fly over and garner Classic support.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Hence the sarcasm
shinohai: Hey BingoBoingo I emailed them twice, no one ever responded.
trinque: straight into the shitpipe with that
BingoBoingo: "Chun has made a concrete hard fork proposal since – though the details of this proposal are not yet clear."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But there are definitely open shit pipes headed to the sea. Mississippi river is prime example.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> sealed pipes from arse into the sea are a very modern (and shaky) abstraction. << Not sealed the whole way, settling ponds etc
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: sealed pipes from arse into the sea are a very modern (and shaky) abstraction.
mircea_popescu: the idea that toilet belongs by the pool is about as alien to the roman as the idea that toilet belongs by kitchen sink is to you.
mircea_popescu: that was the bath not the shitter.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, and perhaps relatedly, for a long time the concept of toilet consisted of a ditch api, upon which you could implement your arbitrary toilet at any point through placing a wooden beam\
asciilifeform: i was somehow under the idea that the romans lounged around in their communal shitters, both sexes, for hours at a stretch, for no particularly good reason, just chit-chat
asciilifeform: how does that make the difference ?
assbot: The sad state of Bitcoin code on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OAauPu )
asciilifeform: there is no place in computingdom where one does not find it after just a light scratch.
mircea_popescu: d with another bug where tokens were copied by reference would mean that disabling one token could disable it in other places, so the outer valid macro invocation's token would be disabled and never able to expand again. The bug was around step (34)."
mircea_popescu: 5) Function Macros And Recursion <<< "What ended up being the bug in my preprocessor for this test case was in evaluating the argument prescanned tokens that were passed to a function macro invocation. If the function macro being invoked contained a token with the same identifier as the function macro being invoked, but didn't actually call that function macro, it would incorrectly disable this token. This bug combine
asciilifeform: reducing the cpu instruction set is sorta like lancing one particular bubonic boil on the body of a plague victim.
asciilifeform: so there is nothing new there.
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'mips' cpu fits on one page: it was printed in the inner cover of the book my brother went to school with, and likewise inside same book, edition of decade later, and is in every other systems arch. book on the planet, also inside front cover.
mircea_popescu: to assuage the fear of death issue.
asciilifeform: or that the sea of shit in which we are now drowning was implicit in 1940s model of computer, and is no accident
asciilifeform: i suspect that ~emergence~ is a difficult concept for people. e.g., the fact that the digits of 'pi' are not in any sense 'random'
assbot: 7 Scandalous Weird Old Things About The C Preprocessor ... ( http://bit.ly/1OA8lDy )
mircea_popescu: http://blog.robertelder.org/7-weird-old-things-about-the-c-preprocessor/ << all the items read to me like stuff typical of what happens with ad-hoc development by "tech savvy" people.
asciilifeform: 'It is called the 'One-Page CPU' because you can fit the specification on an 8.5 by 11 sheet of paper without margins using 8 point Consolas font, and still have lots of room to spare. It is intended to be an easy to emulate compile target that supports context switching and interrupts.'
asciilifeform: so well that their trying to somehow reboot it, rather than burning it to the ground, begins to beggar the imagination
asciilifeform: who understands the von neumann shitstack VERY WELL
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379550 << iirc she was pretty hot, back in the 90s or w/e.
deedbot-: [Trilema] The sad state of Bitcoin code - http://trilema.com/2016/the-sad-state-of-bitcoin-code/
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 10:04:15; copypaste: i have a high BMI, but only because my spine collapsed due to my condition which takes many inches off my height. but even then BMI is only 31.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 09:34:54; BingoBoingo: But basically this Hearnia is painting Janssens and some Obeast named "Marshall Long" as the reasons for the adverserial nature of ClassicCoin. Framing of course because it's what good instruments do so he can try to relevant himself again in six months
assbot: 7 Scandalous Weird Old Things About The C Preprocessor ... ( http://bit.ly/1OA8lDy )
mircea_popescu: but yeah, re conference matchbox vs правильно matchbox, it is apparent that the matchsticks are more interesting than the box alone.
assbot: The sad state of Bitcoin code on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.
asciilifeform: and, interestingly, it is very easy to distinguish the tx spamola with naked eye
mircea_popescu: as opposed to the usual manner (human-directed)
mircea_popescu: i'm not reading now either, just had some summaries made by a rule
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever read the thing before ?
mircea_popescu: msvc shouldn't even be fucking supported in the first place.
mircea_popescu: ./serialize.h:// There's a clever template way to make arrays serialize normally, but MSVC6 doesn't support it
asciilifeform: i've never known any thinking folk who actually relied on 'public education' for any useful thing they knew.
thestringpuller: In fact when I was thinking of going into education one of the courses I took harped on the fact that the best mode of teaching is pairing a real expert with student apprenticeship style.
thestringpuller: Not with the bastardization of education being dumbed down for the so-called masses.
asciilifeform: there was never any other way to learn from other people.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there was an episode at c3 involving a box of matches, prolly what mircea_popescu was remembering.
asciilifeform: neither of us 'asked parents', played with matches, yes
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Matchbox | Matchbox. A three-some in the back of a car. Guy 1: Dude I hooked up with Sarah and Kourtney in the back of my car lastnight! Guy 2: DUDE YOU JUST HAD A ...
asciilifeform: if this was not so, there is no cure.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: ideally he learned it in kindergarten when he added 2+2. correctly.
asciilifeform: (in that most of the reward will be reaped by others, who paid nothing)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nobody gets paid to fix foundations.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I know it's l0l cuz I spend my life making robots to do my slave labor for me. I feel bad for the robots tho. I dunno man. Working in web dev, the developers are insane. It's like everyone wants to use some new unproven technology Y before fixing technology X first that it's built upon.
asciilifeform: fwiw, unlike some folks, i appreciate this gift. sorta like when doctor tells 'you have six months'. would you rather be surprised ?
asciilifeform: there is nothing wrong with this, once one adjusts one's expectations.
mircea_popescu: you know a) the intention was to contrast it with GAY science
asciilifeform: back when the english folks were literate, they had a name for this,
mircea_popescu: the reverse ?
mircea_popescu: what else do you expect is there.
asciilifeform: and reading mircea_popescu on certain subjects is rather reminiscent of this 'computer'
mircea_popescu: sure. so what's the problem with that ?
asciilifeform: when you push it, the word правильно (CORRECT)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i was a small boy, my elder brother taught me a lesson once:
mircea_popescu: this is, contrary to what everyone'd like to think, strictly unrelated to the parents.
mircea_popescu: some kids gotta ask their parents, some don't.
assbot: The Romanian language for other people. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lzWJ9f )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379925 << actually the concept can be introduced much neater. there exist two sorts of men in this world, and they are distinguished readily when an alluring woman makes an interesting proposal. some can't, and some "let's go". the principle (in reverse), is illustrated in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-41.0-45.1
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 17:47:49; asciilifeform: yes, there are folks who are serious chessboxers. but for some reason i've never heard of such a fella winning a world chess OR boxing title.
BingoBoingo: It's possible Magnus Carlsen makes the switch to the hybrid sport http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379926
mircea_popescu: "<amount> is a real and is rounded to the nearest 0.00000001\n"
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 10:26:39; punkman: BingoBoingo: anything interesting in the jtoomim logz?
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 12:38:53; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379483 << this reminds me of that "i'll be sober in the morning - you'll still be ugly" line.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey, is this a documented openssl hole ? seems it could be useful. << found this, seems like the opposite tho: http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&m=122520520421616
mircea_popescu: ./crypter.cpp- // Note as well that at no point in this program is any attempt made to prevent stealing of keys by reading the memory of the running process. << this is oddly the right choice.
mircea_popescu: BN_rshift segfaults on 64-bit if 2^shift is greater than the number if built on ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10, probably depends on version of openssl
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell beautyon what do you like about the vc wordpress anyway ?
mircea_popescu: ./db.cpp: // Tray icon sometimes disappears on 9.10 karmic koala 64-bit, leaving no way to access the program
asciilifeform: 'kicking the dead lion'
asciilifeform: every batch of plowing flies on the planet ?
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