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BingoBoingo: ^instructions there
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381724 << if anyone in afghanistan etc were not fully employed in countig rocks and fucking goats thus managing to find their way here, i'd definitely finance a project to fly a quad to a drone and use the old komet trick
deedbot-: [Trilema] The top 3 best self-introductions in #bitcoin-assets to date - http://trilema.com/2016/the-top-3-best-self-introductions-in-bitcoin-assets-to-date/
mircea_popescu: what is the animal, a pig ?
mircea_popescu: "As for having fat pets, this shows that they have no concept of portion control. An animal will eat anything you put in front of it." << this is nonsense.
pete_dushenski: the only major city with rents under $1/sqm lend untold credulity and providence
pete_dushenski: ndergoes intense, strict training. None of them had any watchmaker experience before. In short, not only did Shinola create jobs, they gave Detroit natives the training to do those jobs. That’s a pretty fucking noble cause, if you ask me."
pete_dushenski: from the mines : "Make no mistake. Shinola watches are battery-powered, quartz movement watches. They’re not automatics. One could question whether or not a battery-powered watch justifies a $550-$1,000+ price. However, the quartz movements are made by their Swiss partners, Ronda AG, and then are sent to the 30,000 square foot Detroit factory where Shinola created dozens of jobs for Americans. Each Shinola watchmak
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/808993 << lotta that dumb shit on okcupid too. "oh how strange, she has 20 pics in the same exact angle"
assbot: Server retired after 18 years and ten months – beat that, readers! • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1ORItnW )
mircea_popescu: back then digg > reddit even.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck lasts this long on the internet.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 03:49:35; gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 35 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
pete_dushenski: i guess there was the wikidood what was his name...
pete_dushenski: and then there was one canuckistani
gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 7 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <nubbins`> <+mircea_popescu> in other news, chick on okcupid : "porque no me escribis en castellano << they say castellano in peru too, but if i'm not mistaken this is not universal in south america?
asciilifeform: the other takeaway is that ~nsf~ specifically is a magical thing in that the dean had nothing whatsoever to worry about, even if the grant were for reprocessing babies into lollipops, he would never be answerable for it - washington ~signed~, aha
asciilifeform: as a former participant in the racket, i will say that 8m - even in ~today~'s watered-down usg - is a princely grant bag.
asciilifeform: and to leave plenty over for the common piggy
asciilifeform: my point is that it went down exactly how i knew it would - dean looked at the books and understood where the payola comes from, and did not ask further questions of anybody.
pete_dushenski: except for "Currently on the job market"
assbot: On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZSVkgK )
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 22:13:17; mircea_popescu: anyway, ascii_field, apparently the dean is asking some questions eh ?
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 22:00:59; ielo: mircea_popescu, i'm just sick of your shit you've independently claimed like 3 people i know are scammers and your life is literally gossiping on the internet
polarbeard: mircea_popescu: thanks for the tip
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was some chick, you quoted it as 'as the name implies, i am jinglebutt. now remove me from this list' or the like
mircea_popescu: tho i suppose some of the gentlemen may prefer swedes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mostly here played by the elderly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform definitely the best introduction i've seen to date, tho. beats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377854 by quite the margin.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Gotta consider the people wo were playing. "Big prison" is already pretty well engrained into their "living"
polarbeard: that's why I said I don't know wether this will hit make's limits
asciilifeform: polarbeard: this is neat, in the sense that an eiffel tower built from toothpicks is neat
polarbeard: right, you have to feed all the targets
polarbeard: from the patchutils package
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381690 << nah, they're 2-3 tons at 5-10k a kg. a truck is 5-10 tons at maaaybe a few hundies a kg.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> for any innocents : bingo is this activity where you get a bit of paper printed with numbers, there's a loudspeaker saying numbers, and you cross out the matches. << Aha, yes. It's like lottery as in person activity.
polarbeard: you need the diff splitter, splitdiff
asciilifeform: let's say i want to press to the latest
polarbeard: hunks is generated by the script after verification
asciilifeform: i'm still not certain why the patches had to be broken down into patchons
mircea_popescu: how do you thinkg everything else that's signed out there is signed ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, as per github tradition. if you trust your computer and v implementation, you can sign the output.
mircea_popescu: so technically it doesn't need the v once the output has been generated.
polarbeard: it helps with parallelization but there was another reason I forgot
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381687 << the definition of "effective" under which he operates is both peculiar and self-defeating. he wants to get something (in this case, anything, whatsoever) for nothing (in this case, no casualties, the one thing usg can't afford is coffins). so in that sense, his insanity is sensible.
polarbeard: there is no v
asciilifeform: v is guaranteed to apply all vpatches in the correct order.
asciilifeform: why the latter
polarbeard: why split or why make has to resolve them?
polarbeard: so make can resolve them
mircea_popescu: "make has a 100000 targets limit written into the code"
asciilifeform: polarbeard: what do the 'hunks' do ?
asciilifeform: polarbeard: you can click on the patches and see exactly what has changed.
asciilifeform: polarbeard: in case you did not know, you can browse the almost-current trb using www browser, http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source?v=asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected
polarbeard: those will not be imported if you already have them
asciilifeform: neato except for the 32bit key fps
polarbeard: trinque: I used your makefiles to build the script actually, you sped up the process :)
trinque: polarbeard: I posted some makefiles to the ML recently. How does what you've done here compare to it?
polarbeard: we have similar interests, for what I read in the public log
polarbeard: I'm there
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no more astonishing than the fact that folks played, e.g., 'everquest', voluntarily
mircea_popescu: polarbeard good for you. now get in the wot.
polarbeard: the makefile there is generated from the script on top
mircea_popescu: for any innocents : bingo is this activity where you get a bit of paper printed with numbers, there's a loudspeaker saying numbers, and you cross out the matches.
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 22:37:55; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Arm fat, usually associated with older ladies that frequent Bingo halls. Now Obesity is prevalent enough the young and under exercised frequently have them. The arm fat in a bingo wing typically "flaps" when moving hence "wing"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381658 << i went to a bingo hall for the first time in my life recently. made it for like half an hour. mostly in dazed bewilderment that people actually DO this.
asciilifeform: what if you break yer paycheque and it were the last one...
pete_dushenski: i'm not persuaded that the front-line gameboyers think that there's an unlimited supply of these machines.
asciilifeform: recall also the other kind of usgistic accident, as with the car rental lots,
pete_dushenski: like they're some kind of total ceo ?
pete_dushenski: wait, really ? you think ~half~ of their fleet "had accidents" ?
asciilifeform: the most likely scenario is takeoff/landing 'oopses'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what makes you think that the heathens have picked them off ?
pete_dushenski: in lab, no, but the results would seem to support your theory, particularly as heathens with slingshots seem to be picking them off like flies buzzing around yesterday's leftovers
asciilifeform: the payload could be as humble as one shotgun round.
asciilifeform: they are not built to survive so much as one bullet.
pete_dushenski: just imagine the conversation at lizard hitler hq : "sir, we have reports that the bitcoin xtcoreclassic team isn't providing adequate lulz to our enemies at #b-a. we've expended all the resources we had at our disposal and it still isn't enough. they're indefatigable sir!" "send in... the drones. it might not be a perfect plan, but it's all we have right now. at the very least, it'll buy us some time." "right away,
asciilifeform: they are seen as inventory, to be churned
asciilifeform: i'ma guess these are built without redundant tandems
pete_dushenski: also, "The Reaper carries an emergency battery backup system. But the batteries last only for about one hour. If a malfunctioning drone needs more time than that to reach an airfield, it is in trouble."
pete_dushenski: "“Once the battery’s gone, the airplane goes stupid and you lose it,” said Col. Brandon Baker, chief of the Air Force’s remotely piloted aircraft capabilities division. “Quite frankly, we don’t have the root cause ironed out just yet.”"
asciilifeform: incidentally, what happens to that thing if the starter croaks? how many hours of battery for guidance system
asciilifeform: l0l perhaps they're using the starters of the same make as in my old 'subaru'.
pete_dushenski: "In March, the Air Force’s program manager for its Reaper fleet filed a report with the Pentagon noting that there had been “a dramatic increase” in starter-generator failures since 2013." <--> "General Atomics spokeswoman Kimberly Kasitz said the firm “stands behind the proven reliability” of the Reaper."
pete_dushenski: see freight costs atm. here to shanghai for the cost of the containers.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: actually these are cheap, esp. in that when they explode, nobody's widow gets a pension
asciilifeform: what, one wonders, are the stats for other flying machines ?
pete_dushenski: "Of the 269 Predators purchased by the Air Force since then, about half have been destroyed or badly damaged in accidents, records show." <--> "The Predator has been our most effective weapon in our campaign against the global jihadists,” said Michael G. Vickers, the Pentagon’s former top civilian intelligence official"
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 22:40:27; BingoBoingo: Can then hang as trophy like "angel"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381663 << obligatory ancient uncle al: 'i sat down the angel on top of the christmas tree... i think... she ~liked~ it!!11'
BingoBoingo: Could also be a reflection of how many 'Muricans go planetary after birth requiring truck suspensions to hold their ass.
BingoBoingo: Well. might actually make sense when children get to school if personally delivering them. May deter other parent's driving aggression if their baby wagon is insuffiecient to take yours in a fight for space.
asciilifeform: i still think 'babywagon' is a constructed meme, like the diamond ring idiocy
asciilifeform: (anyone ever throw a party in a converted garbage truck? and then see if guests piss themselves when you show that the hydraulics STILL work ??)
BingoBoingo: But in the most gigantic, overwhelming space
asciilifeform: the extra space of all but the most gigantic 'suv' is largely illusory
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 21:48:51; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381561 << who the everliving fuck ~doesn't~ report the theft? 'oh i don't need the insurance money, just keep it' ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381586 << not everyone's insured. these are old cars, worth relatively little.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381575 << he likes to shop for shelf stable stuff at sam's club, once or twice a quarter. needs the space.
BingoBoingo: Can then hang as trophy like "angel"
asciilifeform: (evisceration from behind, lungs would flap out the back like wings)
asciilifeform: for some reason my first thought was the old viking punishment, 'making the bloody eagle'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Arm fat, usually associated with older ladies that frequent Bingo halls. Now Obesity is prevalent enough the young and under exercised frequently have them. The arm fat in a bingo wing typically "flaps" when moving hence "wing"
BingoBoingo: There's prolly also got to be aftermarket plate armour kits for the thing
mod6: '-has a couple songs in the rear bumper' wat?
BingoBoingo: Can roll the window down and jsut drop a turd on the highway
pete_dushenski: korean shitboxes tend to rattle and groan like very poorly maintained vacuum cleaners at 15-20 years of age and find themselves in the scrap yard as a result
ben_vulpes: all the good cars have miserable lines.
asciilifeform: i question that any wheelbox sold now will be on the road in 20 years, even if the road is still there then
pete_dushenski: there's a good reason you don't see many 15-20 year old hyundais on the road
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: know anything about the honda passport model?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not necessarily on side of theives. Company just did not want life insurance premiums to bankrupt them so placed sane limits on what could be recovered from where.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: We shall see. I would like to put 8 of them in your hands. S.NSA needs a R&D project.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: bwahaha. "how much does your enemy need to pay you for you to answer the call in his time of need ?"... indeed. why shouldn't "recovery" guys be on the same side as "thieves" ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Apparently at that point recovery efforts became limited to driving by to verify the car was there and making it insurance company's problem
pete_dushenski: jurov: sure they do, possibly even over-report.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: What typically was the worst case was car renter took car to region under "sovereign flag" like certain areas of North St Louis that precluded recovery when lojack revealed the car to be there.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i guess there's that too eh
pete_dushenski: or car "disappeared" from and ended up at employee's step-brother's house, "somehow"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: No. Thefts are rentals that just don't get returned. Talked to a couple people who did the scary work of "rental car recovery"
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: as BingoBoingo points out, that most of the 'thefts' happened on rental lots indicates exactly this. namely, fraud.
asciilifeform: it was on the lot? the dealer (or bank, etc) owned.
asciilifeform: i dun get it, ~somebody~ had title to the wheeled coffin
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: as to thefts, the point of the rape parallel is that the act (of ownership or sex) never actually happened.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: not only are you not a progressive now, but you've clearly never been one either. while it's true that some fall into the 'prius/tesla' camp, others fall into the 'i'd never drive a sedan or wagon because that's what my parents did and that's old-fashioned and/or otherwise bad mkay' camp
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 21:39:10; pete_dushenski: the only way i could explain dodge thefts topping the charts is that only poorfags ~report~ thefts, in much the same way as "all the rapes that happen on us campuses are committed by varsity athletes"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381561 << who the everliving fuck ~doesn't~ report the theft? 'oh i don't need the insurance money, just keep it' ?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: and you'd be amazed how many buyers preferred the alien. i sold 10x aveos as cobalts in my day.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The cobalt was basically a cavalier refresh which was a familiar, dependable kind of shitty. The aveo was an alien kind of suck.
BingoBoingo: The aveo and cobalt were different kinds of terrible
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: A lot of the charger/etc thefts are from rental agencies
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: the only problem with that aveo theory is that... it was better than the cobalt.
pete_dushenski: it's like the most believable pick-up line in the hood : "i'd pick you up at 8, hun, but my charger srt8 got stolen last week and i'm still trying to track down the basterds who dun it."
pete_dushenski: the only way i could explain dodge thefts topping the charts is that only poorfags ~report~ thefts, in much the same way as "all the rapes that happen on us campuses are committed by varsity athletes"
BingoBoingo: I mean it was understandable when they did it with the Aveo because they wanted a bottom end car to scare people into buying up.
pete_dushenski: aha. the lulz of an "american" truck or car being designed and built in the firstest bestest southest korea. truly one of america's most glorious embarrassments.
BingoBoingo: He mentioned not missing the covetous looks he got driving the magnum around the city
BingoBoingo: Meatspace friend had boring v6 one for a while. Beat it all to hell then "upgraded" to one of the daewoo crossovers rebadged as a chevy.
pete_dushenski: chrysler has definitely taken the crown of "piece of cobbled together shit that only lasts as long as you're making payments on it", which fiat had through the 80s. fitting that fiat came back to north america in 2012 under chrysler proprietorship, really.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: easier to park, better on fuel, and have lower tco. whichever way you go, driving them each and finding a used car with known providence (receipts!) are the two most important factors.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes i'd avoid all chrysler products (including jeep) like the plague. land cruiser/4runner, tahoe/suburban, and explorer/expedition are all worth considering and all fit the "mega-suv with low tco and reasonable maintenance prospects for an american family" niche. that being said, you'd probably be just as well, if not better, served by the 00-06 escape or 97-02 cr-v, both of which should be quiet
assbot: Strategic superiority - the saga continues on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1nEnpam )
BingoBoingo: "Unlike me, Erik tries to be nice, to everyone, all the time. The downside of his approach is that he is treated like dirt, by everyone. Not every time, but every time it actually matters. (You are invited to review the logs of the #bitcoin-dev channel [cached] and make up your own mind on the subject.) "
mircea_popescu: opinions being like assholes, whether humble or not.
assbot: The bitchslapping of 2013... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1nEmNl5 )
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2013/the-bitchslapping-of-2013/ seems awfully prescient as now Erik seeks to appease all the pinoy spamzors https://archive.is/aQX5h
BingoBoingo: Also when done a well earned sense of superiority over other locals who are less accomplished in the clearing
BingoBoingo: Ah, the big snows are much more fun. Only been through a couple snows between 18-24 inches.
mircea_popescu: and then by the time i cleared it, there was a slight melt an d i got a futher two tons off the roof.
BingoBoingo: We only got 3 or 4 inches of snow. Yet rather than remove it derps drive over it until it refreezes into a slick that doesn't remove so easily
BingoBoingo: What I don't get though is the people so lazy they won't do their own driveway and end up housebound three days after the last snow falls
BingoBoingo: It's not spectualarly fun, but its a way to be outside in the cold without feeling cold
mircea_popescu recalls enjoying doing it, the one year he ended up seriously snowed upon
BingoBoingo: The tort justifies the lazy
mircea_popescu: either that or sheer lazy.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Used to not be this way. Sometime 10-15 years ago the torts think scared people out of taking responsibility for clearing winter weather
funkenstein_: how else you gonna get around in the winter?
BingoBoingo: When we got our snow earier this week I was the only person the on our street civilized enough to shovel his drive way. Now that there's been a few days for it to melt and refreeze neighbors are complaining they can't get into or out of theirs because they've become too slick. Also precious few sidewalks have been shoveled in town.
thestringpuller: Ugh. Can Roger Ver just go the fuck away, this prick is more of a douchebag than Weev.
assbot: More Air Force drones are crashing than ever as mysterious new problems emerge - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pb6qH9 )
thestringpuller: "Apollo astronauts called their urine dumps "The Constellation Urion" and said it was very beautiful."
mircea_popescu: "the beef is not a playing character for not having escaped from its pen ; the waitress is a playing character for not having escaped from its pen." << shall need some more sandbags. why hate the cow, what, if you prick it does it not bleed ?
ascii_butugychag: but i find a good bit of what these people do to themselves to be readily optional, at least in the sense that eating one's nagant is optional
mircea_popescu: well then, that explains it :D
mircea_popescu: but the waitress is ?
ascii_butugychag: the beef is not a playing character...
mircea_popescu: maybe for cat most of all. how about the beef ?
mircea_popescu: for me and for the waitress, showing up at the restaurant is optional, right ? and so it is for the cat.
ascii_butugychag: ergo they choose to?
ascii_butugychag: i can readily observe at least a subset of things they choose to do, when i find myself readily able to avoid doing them
mircea_popescu: why does it happen to them that they died ? no one knows, for drudgery can't be thought.
mircea_popescu: as the expression goes, "it happened"
mircea_popescu: i would not presume these people do anything.
ascii_butugychag: why do you suppose just about all of these people kill themselves ?
mircea_popescu: anyone bothered by it ?
mircea_popescu: then finally the "literate" or "white collar" or however you call the despicable postmodern otaku, intellectuals I suppose ? can't even comprehend drudgery, fears anonimity, i can scarcely look down to see what's next.
mircea_popescu: the hunter didn't fear death ; the farmer feared death only, not drudgery ; the factory worker can't even think death, fears drudgery, not anonymity.
ascii_butugychag: small pellet leads to thinking of next pellet always. as in the professor who described to me how crack is smoked
mircea_popescu: degradation of society generally follows the success of technology in reducing the size of the minimal harvest.
mircea_popescu: the next one, actual industry, reduced the bolus further (the chinese never developed industry because yes, their goverment had already reduced it to "one bowl of rice")
mircea_popescu: this reduction similarly took the world from greece to rome, give or take.
mircea_popescu: consider. the first major invention that "revolutionized" mankind was... agriculture. it reduced the societal bolus from "whole bison, if you get it" to "a fraction of a crop, if you well save it".
mircea_popescu: the size of the pellet is imo the important part.
ascii_butugychag: (it isn't about whether the pellets are small, as in a zoo, or large, as in a harvest season - but that zoo ~answeres prayers~ and rewards wheedling)
ascii_butugychag: i'd conjecture that 'africanization' is at its height when the 'food dispenser' ~responds to human buluceala'
mircea_popescu: yet the effects of tiny modulation in environment are indisputably major in the mold that grows out
mircea_popescu: there is necessarily no ensuring "the gods". just you know, transactional insuring 'em.
ascii_butugychag: and farmers do their share of 'must not upset the gods'
mircea_popescu: we know this promotes all the africas - people will sit around and invent ways to insure they don't upset the gods.
mircea_popescu: we know this does promote all the industries - people will hunt and make farms, and then need lumber and tv sets.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a castigation of them. but the system is a chute down not a chute up.
mircea_popescu: they drive otherwise "normal" boys into subhumanity.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the observation about 'camgurlz are a magnet for the attention of subhuman bois' seems unsurprising
mircea_popescu: then again, granted, most of those involved were pretty nuts.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone sane was seriously thinking the situation may survive. it was painfully obvious we're riding a self-limiting wave.
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: this was re: the latest trilema article
ascii_butugychag: reading mircea_popescu's recollections of the '90s porn set feels a little like another one of my predilections, memoirs of su physics/math folk
ascii_butugychag: the observation about 'girl is not annoying because it is a girl' is spot-on
trinque: thestringpuller: yep, though not one I've passed any judgement on yet, other than "is elsewhere"
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: that article makes me think of (i entirely forget the source) - approximately - 'every man's life has a time when things were working correctly'
trinque: AWS being the host was certainly a problem.
trinque: well. I certainly didn't change the configuration to get that to connect.. merely the origin
thestringpuller: the above option wasn't using --verify-all
thestringpuller: I might do another sync just to construct a graph.
thestringpuller: I want to see where the "churn" is in TRB.
thestringpuller: subtract the question mark at the end :(
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the grep output ?
ascii_butugychag: but really in his harem scenario i'd imagine he would build something more like a horseshoe shape, so the users can face one another
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag incidentally, i suspect you'll find the latest quite very interesting, if you manage to wade through it all.
trinque: ascii_butugychag: was there something else I was supposed to say aside from NICK to get going?
ascii_butugychag: i suppose the theory is that we are morons, and will conclude that 'trb is broken, can't sync' ?
mircea_popescu: you're not the first to see such wonders.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> like it or not this is the level of scrutiny that patches have to face, even if it makes develoipment slow. << i very much agree with this methodology.
ascii_butugychag: trinque: if it's not a seekrit: why does deedbot use a heathen bitcoinatron ?
trinque: the goddamned deedbot node would not sync no matter what... untli I changed his external IP
ascii_butugychag: 2) mathematical proof
ascii_butugychag: there are exactly three mechanisms known for creating correctness:
thestringpuller: i don't know in practice how "unknown unknowns" affect the system.
thestringpuller: If you have expected behavior there should be a way to measure if that behavior changes due to something introduced into the system.
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 15:31:49; mircea_popescu: the problem with tests is that you can't test for something not happening.
mircea_popescu: and not catch all the bugs it doesn't catch.
mircea_popescu: it will catch all the bugs it catches
mircea_popescu: like it or not this is the level of scrutiny that patches have to face, even if it makes develoipment slow.
mircea_popescu: mod6 the thing is, that 10`000 we took out - while very sensible to be out and belongs out - could very well had been covering up for say an openssl bug.
mod6: I think it's vital that we all gain a good grasp of what the intricacies are in this code - myself included.
mod6: And 'you' in the sense of all of us. Not just Mr. P.
thestringpuller: terminal2: ASICMINER actually delivered on their IPO, their stock skyrocketed. However due to insane management that seems to be very common in the mining world, the company imploded.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> my one question, and not to mod6 in particular, is : can unsigned int nSize = ECDSA_size(pkey); be trusted to not fuck up the size ? << Just to touch back on this again - I'd like to see more of this. If you happen to be reading through the code, and there is a question, ask - let's discuss.
terminal2: Toilets would have been great to invest in before they were owned by everyone
mircea_popescu: think of all the growth the kids will create on top of their parent's food!
PeterL: all the "companies" will be amazing
terminal2: Migrating a DAO off of ethereum would not be an easy thing to do in most cases
terminal2: I've never had a GPG key before lol. I will make one tonight. On ETH: While I don't see a reason for established companies to re-use ethereum - I think you need to account for all the companies nerd kids will create ontop of it - which will grow
PeterL: oh, nevermind then
PeterL: proly want to limit the number of times assbot responds to stop spam vector?
PeterL: can we has !wot <nick> where the links get sent from assbot to <nick> instead of dumping in chan?
assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NpJ1vR )
mircea_popescu: different branches in the wot disputing which earlier node to be credited with x.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the future there will be the principal cause of war :
mircea_popescu: seeing how the men in question were unfortunate to die befgore the bible.
ascii_butugychag: but i'm probably the last one alive who gives half a shit

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