asciilifeform: at that point, no arm either, just plow and kalash manufacture.
mircea_popescu: cn has made a career out of an inability to feel the heat.
asciilifeform: but if intel were somehow to cease to exist, cn et al would feel the heat.
punkman: they wouldn't really sell a lot of bootleg-intels. shit ARM copy does power the megatons of phones though.
asciilifeform: but actually i think mircea_popescu is right, we will have a 'triumph of the cockroaches' situation
asciilifeform: iirc they could not even use it when found
asciilifeform: punkman: they are rubbish, every single one i ever saw. PLUS i'm not interested in nato arm !
punkman: asciilifeform: there are more "server ARM" things coming out lately, might eventually have a workstation
mircea_popescu: sure. i'll send the list to your cardano device!
asciilifeform: (and if it takes 100 hours to build motherfucking trb, it is NOT a workstation!)
asciilifeform: re: arm, every few yrs i get an attack of the temptation to build a new workstation, and it never happens, and probably never will. would dearly love to buy something nato-free, wouldja tell me ~where~ ?
mircea_popescu: much moreso than say saudis are getting out of their oil.
asciilifeform: speaking of pb, rare earths, and the like.
mircea_popescu: no idea where this mineral idea came from, but if you look on the net china is an importer of minerals. be it canadian oil or euro gold, they mostly buy.
mircea_popescu: which is why the prisons are full of orcs with "booze and women put us here" rather than the other way around
asciilifeform: and when the chip masks are also laid out by arm cluster.
asciilifeform: wake me up when an arm is designed on an arm workstation. anywhere on the planet.
asciilifeform: which table? to be nato's mineral whore while paying for the privilege ?
mircea_popescu: and they'll get some bonus from redditard going "oh, this will make chips like 3d printable!11"
asciilifeform: some cn politburo moron's daughters were admitted to princeton, or the like, in exchange for this 'strategic genius move'
asciilifeform: not ONLY do they use the foreign devil's masks, complete with backdoor turds, but PAY.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 14:08:37; mircea_popescu: i'd imagine they'd opt for "countless multitude"
mircea_popescu: why not ? will be great. lumbering chinese golem strong enough to fracture nato, force whatever remnants are actually worth saving into #b-a, crush the rest into alabama.
mircea_popescu: i'd imagine they'd opt for "countless multitude"
mircea_popescu: talk about the chinese dream.
mircea_popescu: After moving to Beijing to study at the university, Mr Zhao made a fortune in electronics, property and natural resources, before becoming chairman and second-largest shareholder (after the university itself) at Tsinghua Unigroup."
mircea_popescu: Most intriguing of all, Tsinghua Unigroup, a company spun out of Tsinghua University in Beijing, has emerged in the past year or so as the chosen champion among champions, a Chinese challenger to the mighty Intel. Zhao Weiguo, the firms boss, started out herding goats and pigs in Xinjiang, a remote province in north-western China, to where his parents had been exiled in the 1950s, having been labelled as dissidents.
mircea_popescu: "In the governments earlier efforts to boost domestic manufacturing of solar panels and LED lamps, it spread its largesse among a lot of local firms, resulting in excess capacity and slumping prices. This time it seems to be concentrating its firepower on a more limited group of national champions. For instance, SMIC of Shanghai is set to be Chinas champion foundry (bulk manufacturer of chips designed by ot
mircea_popescu: "so as to cease being dependent on foreign supplies." the chinese dream since forever. and they'll get it, too.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389822 << they can afford it. unlike the us.
mircea_popescu: i had archive.is preserve the dpaste just in case anyone wants it after it expires. assbot has the link.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 06:22:15; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << would it make sense to do this with edge-per-file and filenames on the edges?
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 06:16:40; ben_vulpes: saying "no" to a hundred thousand dollars from Conde Nast is worth approximately 5x the bezzlebuxx in question.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389782 << dude what in carnation are you on about. conde nast and money ?! wut ? 100k is their yearly budget for all of jezbel, you plan to churn out 10k attention whoring, vaguely concern trolling 500word pieces ?
mircea_popescu: seems the matter of control is squarely resolved in the field. mp can get to anyone in usg, to anything to them he damned well pleases. so it goes.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller idiots actually moved to 100% discussing what i say, STILL can't fucking say my name ?
thestringpuller: The SEC tried that you big dummy. Go back to MIT and continue to eat glue.
thestringpuller: "Gavin: ... that's another form of centralization that I find much more worrying than network security. If the only entities participating are only high-net worth people, then those are pretty easy to get at and control."
ben_vulpes: i am unconvinced that the six months have been paid, or that if they have any impression has been made.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:31:10; ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it bothered me that polarbeard apparently does not yet fully grasp that every line he writes is a unit of ~work~ for other people to do.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388910 << and to think i was trying to gently guide the keyid in question to enlightenment
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:58:55; ascii_butugychag: the overall idea i am trying to teach is that anybody changing a line of trb ought to be mindful of the work this creates for others
ben_vulpes: but black is the only acceptable dry-erase color.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389171 << i have floor-to-ceiling mirrors, on which i use expos liberally for maths lessons for the girl and alphabet lessons for the kid
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:11:50; mod6: it doesn't scale obviously for everyone to have these issues. for my own sanity, we need to make it so that a guy just basically does one thing and then it builds.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389544 << i would also dearly like to hear about the setups people have in place for hacking on this codebase
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << would it make sense to do this with edge-per-file and filenames on the edges?
ben_vulpes: saying "no" to a hundred thousand dollars from Conde Nast is worth approximately 5x the bezzlebuxx in question.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 23:10:49; mircea_popescu: ie, infantile delusions of sovereignity through "privacy". this doesn't work. sovereignity behaves publicly and with impunity. that is the fucking point.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389453 << let me tell you, the look of astonishment, disbelief, and 'omg my priors' on $admingurl's face when i told her i valued publishing the ssl piece under my own name so highly that no terrestrial rag could afford to buy it from me was udderly priceless
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: signed binary can be contemplated when there is simply no escape (e.g., firmware image, compiler bootstrap) but otherwise entirely braindamaged
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 02:44:42; mircea_popescu: for the other thing, no. it promotes this anti-computing, anti-intellectual, outright evil view of software being something that is given the user, like an item, rather than the correct view of software being a command given to the computer.
TomServo: Still have the original build dir if that is any help.
TomServo: Sorry, I had to step away. I've rebuilt w/ v99996k and am seeing the correct max_locks.
mod6: ok, let's pick it back up in the morning. night!
mod6: If not, tomorrow is fine too. Just want to ensure that we take a look at what might be going on there.
punkman: "If you've never peddled the flesh of subhuman garbage creatures to human garbage, you've never lived, and living is a nightmare. Eat arbys"
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:42:16; punkman: does the trb server have room for a buildatron that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
phf: it gets the job done :]
mircea_popescu: phf your v.lisp seems pretty advanced then :)
punkman: I don't think "guy that doesn't know much" doing "curl deedbot.com/build.sh | sh" is great either
shinohai: But it's what the user expects!
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:42:16; punkman: does the trb server have room for a buildatron that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
mircea_popescu: for the other thing, no. it promotes this anti-computing, anti-intellectual, outright evil view of software being something that is given the user, like an item, rather than the correct view of software being a command given to the computer.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, the VERY CONCEPT of signed binary no longer exists.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:20:35; mod6: the entire build process is incredibly complex and we need to desperately reduce that compelxity as much as we can.
mod6: lol, ive actually worked at a lot of places. it's totally different. people go there to get paid so they can continue buying shit they don't need and eating food that isn't food.
shinohai: What good is being part of a Republic, if you do not contribute for the good of said Republic?
mod6: seeing us pull together and get problems solved, warms my heart.
mircea_popescu: that's the idea
mod6: people in here ~care~ about problems. they wanna pitch in and help and make things better.
mod6: you know something that is a lot different participating in TMSR as opposed to any other place i've worked at?
mod6: hey hey, there you go bud.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just throwing it out there, for ppl to weigh in
mircea_popescu: defaults are defaults, people are free to change them. but it's nice to have when out of the box like this
mod6: hmm. i'd feel like that maybe that's a bit sticky incase IPs change or what not -- maybe an addition to the wiki would be a better place to start there?
mircea_popescu: # to make this node public, make sure port 8333 is open, comment out the line above and uncomment the line below
mircea_popescu: and also, could we bundle a pre-created .conf file with the release ? something to include say all the public trb nodes as -connects and stuff, with a comment to explain to people how to turn it into a public node ?
mod6: shinohai: you use the conf file quite a bit right? does it seem to work "as expected" ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: I believe they should.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:15:55; mod6: if you have .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf -- then you shouldn't need to use the flag: -conf
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389555 << incidentally, could all the flags be covered in .conf ?
mircea_popescu: i haven't the slightest curiosity to find what rando i couldn't tell from adam thinks the blocks look like.
mircea_popescu: PeterL probably. moreover, it allows the trb network to be built in depth. what the fuck do we even have the fronteer nodes for if not to protect us
PeterL: does it sync faster in -connect rather than -addnode?
mircea_popescu: anyway, im only going to announce the new nodes once they're synced and i open them to public i figure.
mod6: ok, on that note then; we've got myself, shinohai, bitcoin_pete, hanbot, Mr. P. and who am i forgetting that have built v99996 build script -- i'd say let's put it in deed bot and update the wiki.
mircea_popescu: anyway mod6 this is a milestone for teh foundation, got three instances spun up on the same fucking day of the release.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:10:38; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389541 << i did have to run the rotor by hand.
mod6: Thanks for the feedback. :]
hanbot: mod6 v99996 up and running here, couldn't've asked for something smoother.
trinque: also, deedbox will be down shortly for SSD installation, whenever the DC pulls it
mod6: then make a backup (for those who haven't)
mircea_popescu: because why would i take stuff from the webs.
mircea_popescu: TomServo how much ram does the system actulaly have ?
mod6: hmm. perhaps he has something environmental going on. be interesting to get to the bottom of that mystery.
mod6: oops, copied too much there.
mod6: TomServo's issues have me a bit curious there.
mod6: mircea_popescu: hey, just because im curious -- let me know if you get past 252`450 -- or if you'd rather, check and see if you have the most recent db.cpp
mircea_popescu: minor snags as detailed in logs. but nothing really worth the mention
shinohai: btw mod6 I still have to add the export PERL_MM_OPT= to mine to get it to run, dunno what weird issue I have that causes it.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 19:57:06; mircea_popescu: hey, best part of physics lab was the blackboard imo
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389165 << the MSU Chemistry department is decidedly standardized on chalk. We had these nice 1" thick chalk, was great for drawing molecules you could read from the back of the lecture hall
mod6: btw, did it ever build ok for you after the 'bc' issue?
mod6: you think i should copy it somewhere in the v99996 build script before i jump onto other things? i'd rather just let sleeping dogs lie there, just because very soon we're gonna ditch it anyway.
mircea_popescu: mod6 and in the same vein as prev comment : why does bitcoind end up in /bitcoin/src ?
mod6: which would allow us some full testing time - at the end of which, we sign patches and call it a release.
mod6: I feel like, if you and I put some serious effort with help from #b-a, for like 2 weeks, we'd really be somewhere by the end of february.
mod6: <+trinque> I will probably be out all day tomorrow, but the next day or sometime next week will work for me. << no rush here. i'd like to dig into this sometime next week.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 << I designed the makefiles to take a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. ... << for now, as far as I'm concerned, this is totally ok. we'll have to worry about other *nix's after we perfect getting linux x86-64 done with a CD to boot also.
trinque: I will probably be out all day tomorrow, but the next day or sometime next week will work for me.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as i get through the end of this month, a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389272 << there's some tweaking I'd like to do, would be happy to have your thoughts on the thing when you're able if you see other improvements << yeah, please, if you have the time, i'd really like to work with you to help us not only get the makefiles updated with the latest V and other things, but to also figure out all of this stuff.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:10:39; mod6: and upon a few others successfully building, trinque, can you work your magic with deedbot and place that guy in there so its like deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-v99996K.sh or whatever?
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 << I designed the makefiles to take a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. perhaps this is the place to add an openbsd builder, which could apply unofficial patches as they are necessary after V press
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as i get through the end of this month, a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389272 << there's some tweaking I'd like to do, would be happy to have your thoughts on the thing when you're able if you see other improvements
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:10:39; mod6: and upon a few others successfully building, trinque, can you work your magic with deedbot and place that guy in there so its like deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-v99996K.sh or whatever?
punkman: does the trb server have room for a buildatron that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
mod6: I feel good about the work that you all put in this month. Thanks to everyone who helped the republic be successful this month.
mod6: i do think, as a republic, we're laying the groundwork for that at some point to be a possibility.
mod6: this to me always seems like a shaky idea -- ONLY even a possibility if we get all the compiler garbage fixed so that it produces (bitwise) the ~exact~ same binary every single time.
mod6: And hopefully, this will end some of our tooling issues for a while, and we can focus on the large engineering issues at hand.
mod6: As soon as we have our new build process in place, and it's sane, and "Works" and "fits in head" and all that, then we'll release.
mod6: that will be my main goal as soon as the SoBA for january is complete.
mod6: trinque did us all a huge favor, but we need to perfect the thing and make it a "no brainer"
shinohai: It goes with the territory though. So many moving parts and this is relatively young in it's existence
mod6: if someone says "hey fuck these ``Classic and XT clowns, I want REAL BITCOIN'', then we need to ensure that they can build that.
mod6: However, the process to build said binary is quite arduous and we need to perfect that part.
mod6: Yeah, the good news is: We have a statically linked bitcoind that has come quite a long way from where we started. Infact, the original version flat out will not work any longer -- ala TomServo's issue.
shinohai: I won't lie those, there are times I cry " mod6 HALP!!!!"
shinohai: I can work with it because I've used variation of it for so many builds. But I understand the issues at hand.
mod6: the entire build process is incredibly complex and we need to desperately reduce that compelxity as much as we can.
mod6: if hanbot and Mr. P. can get through it ok, then we'll deedbot it -- not that I feel good about it - I don't. The thing isn't what we really want... it's just what we have, for now. :/
shinohai: The Ubuntu server is remote - lost connection and had to reconnect
shinohai: Ok my old Ubuntu server and the other Deb machine both built with the script pete_dushenski posted earlier
mod6: There are steps that I can let you know about to walk you through setting this up and logging your every move so we can all discover what it is that isn't working on your end. Because I'd bet dollars to donuts that for somereason you are ending up with a super downlevel version of db.cpp -- which is why you're getting stuck on 252`450
mod6: But we should attempt to get to the bottom of this as soon as possible.
mod6: Please, let's work together to discover what that might be. I'm worried that either V is failing on your side for some reason (it seems to not be pressing out the tree correctly) -- maybe you tried to build over an old build space, or who knows.
mod6: <+hanbot> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) << so i think all that is really required here is `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=A.B.C.D -addnode=W.X.Y.Z &`
mod6: so yeah, after the first, will be a main focus there -- all are encouraged to help me get to this goal.
mod6: it doesn't scale obviously for everyone to have these issues. for my own sanity, we need to make it so that a guy just basically does one thing and then it builds.
mod6: obviously this is not how we want things to be -- will be the main focus to be to get rid of the build script we're using today and move to a version of trinque's makefiles.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong.
mod6: what's the cannonical makeclean, rm -rf * in /rotor ? << yeah, i would just blowaway the entire 'rotor' directory along with all the V stuff. the stuff that I would save is just the .wot dir, the keys contained therein, and of course, your ~/.gnupg stuff (ofc. have backups etc (this is for everyone who blew their keys away once)) : then totally restart the entire script.
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assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 00:23:19; BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/l2oplLE.png?1 << No matter how much you try to appease hamplanets there's always that that's too fat.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389517 <<< Sadly it seems everyone in America feels entitled to make manufacturers do as they wish.
gribble: The expected generation output, at 12000000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 1.20033340651e+11, is 50.2766828319 BTC per day and 2.09486178466 BTC per hour.
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/l2oplLE.png?1 << No matter how much you try to appease hamplanets there's always that that's too fat.
punkman: bitfury's 40MW datacenter could do 600petahash with their 16nm chips
phf: and the one ascii requested, transition graph for when there's only one hunk per patch file http://glyf.org/tmp/trb-transition-hunks-asplode.png (i filtered out all the genesis files that don't have further transitions)
mircea_popescu: ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2
shinohai: Only time I have stopped mine is for upgrades. Otherwise it runs merrily along all day.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sounds identical to the strauss-kahn set-up
punkman: hanbot, so if you don't use nohup, you can also get rid of the redirection at the end "2>&1 &"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski didn't they kidnap the sitting fmi head over "charged" based on the testimony of a streetwalker that the us district attorney had paid to lie ?
pete_dushenski: i'm just finalising the toilet design ;)
punkman: pete_dushenski: did you start the canadian b-a embassy yet?
hanbot: punkman i gather some local issue arises otherwise eg http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-12-2015#1349988
mircea_popescu: suppose someone comes in here with proof you stole their shit.
mircea_popescu: same way they can charge anyone.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: no debate. but if i'm sovereign, how can the polizei charge me ? what's next, arresting bahamas for health care insurance fraud ?
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shinohai: At minimum hanbot you need the -myip -conf and -datadir flags
mircea_popescu: ie, infantile delusions of sovereignity through "privacy". this doesn't work. sovereignity behaves publicly and with impunity. that is the fucking point.
assbot: The idea that Bitcoin is a sovereign... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLgO31 )
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> punkman: i wanted to cry for the world i'm bringing my children into when i read 'current social consensus'. then i remembered that you have to get caught first ! << this is also rank nonsense , of the http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-that-bitcoin-is-a-sovereign/#comment-116288 ilk
hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time)
mircea_popescu: what "consensus" ? is this a consensus of the derps that never beat anyone nor have ever educated anyone ?
mircea_popescu: <punkman> "To suggest that responding to such acts by a teenaged daughter (14 going on 15 years), by spanking her with an object, would be educative or corrective, is simply not believable or acceptable by any measure of current social consensus." << indeed, gotta encourage the nudes :P << rank nonsense. beatings are quite educative, in practice.
TomServo: punkman: I used build-bitcoind-99997K.sh, OS install and bitcoind build were on the 27th.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker is buildroot huge.
TomServo: punkman: No, is that required if using the wiki build script?
mircea_popescu: what's the cannonical makeclean, rm -rf * in /rotor ?
pete_dushenski: if i got up and moved everytime idiots were idiots, i'd live on the moon already.
pete_dushenski: and that if that's still not good enough, that you wouldn't burn the court house to the ground and piss on the ashes !
pete_dushenski: and if you're caught, that you can't afford the best lawyers !
pete_dushenski: punkman: i wanted to cry for the world i'm bringing my children into when i read 'current social consensus'. then i remembered that you have to get caught first !
punkman: "To suggest that responding to such acts by a teenaged daughter (14 going on 15 years), by spanking her with an object, would be educative or corrective, is simply not believable or acceptable by any measure of current social consensus." << indeed, gotta encourage the nudes :P
diametric: deep bruising and lacerations, as in they were beating her severely enough to cause bleeding.
pete_dushenski: "It came to the attention of police when the daughter showed bruises on her buttocks to two of her girlfriends, who in turn reported what they had seen to the school principal." <<
diametric: pete_dushenski: the article i read didn't say marks, but specifically lacerations.
pete_dushenski: not like this retardation is sustainable, so enjoy prosecuting jaywalking and other trivial non-crimes, canada, enjoy it while you still have oil and trees and fish as slaves to make 'everyone' worthy of due process.
pete_dushenski: summary : parents hit daughter with skipping rope and plastic hockey sticks, WHICH LEFT MARKS OMG, because fillie was caught sexting and chose this punishment over being grounded. parents were then not only charged but CONVICTED of assault by provincial court.
pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, this shit's going to the supreme court of canada (at least it had better) : http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/spanking-over-nude-snapchat-photo-leads-to-assault-conviction-for-parents-1.3424108
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ well the question of identity and image is too complex to carry out in the margins of that example huh.
mircea_popescu: <phf> asciilifeform: check it http://glyf.org/tmp/trb-transition.png << p neat, but why is the shiva stuff connected ?
funkenstein_: "look at the statues, entirely different people." <-- it what things look like that's important?
funkenstein_: also related, turns out 樊麾 is a friend of a friend of a friend. word from that channel is there was no handicap in matches
pete_dushenski: in 'go' related nyooz, i spent some time talking to martin muller at the 'physics mixer' i attended last night. he's the associate research chair at the university of alberta in computing science and one of the leading researchers in monte carlo methods and the 'go' game. apparently this 'world-beating' research is happening right in my own very back yard !
mod6: pete_dushenski: ya, as soon as we get a couple of people confirming that v99996 builds for them correctly, we'll throw it into deedbot, but thanks!
pete_dushenski: in other news, because dpaste mungs up files with '^M', 99996k can be found here : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/99996K.txt
shinohai: I know the patch applied, because bitcoind -? shows it as an option
cazalla_: well, the hunt continues, thanks again pete_dushenski
ascii_butugychag: anybody else suffer the same problem as shinohai ?
pete_dushenski: cazalla_: might be worth it to find an older car, higher km, just to avoid the cvt. then again, maybe you drive the cvt and don't mind it for the kind of routes you frequent, who knows
cazalla_: i find something with full service history, low km and then.. cvt :\
cazalla_: so many of the cvts around down under :\
pete_dushenski: just keep digging back into history until you're not swimming in shit, it's the b-a way !
cazalla_: looking at getting a toyota corolla, say 2011-2014 and most autos on the market are cvt, not 4spd auto and manuals seem few and far between :\
pete_dushenski: i'd say that, by and large, that's a fair assessment of cvt transmissions : they're complex to repair and unintuitive to drive, in my experience
cazalla_: thanks pete_dushenski! came to ask you something about cars actually! are the complaints i'm reading about CVT (noisy, blow up, are shit and to be avoided) legitimate?
pete_dushenski: but i don't discount that i bunged something up along the way
ascii_butugychag: but NOT in the log.
mod6: so if i use -setvernum=99997 it'll show up in the log but not getinfo?
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: i was gonna point out the version string thing but you found it in the logz already.
BingoBoingo: I believe reddit user's first four characters are "paul" and can't bother spelling the rest because reddit.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 15:48:48; asciilifeform: mod6, shinohai: the version string patch works. BUT you will always see the default version in the boot log!! because said printf ~precedes~ the setting of the custom string. this may explain shinohai's confusion.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379781 << so 'getinfo' will always show the same regardless ?
shinohai wants to compile with the new patches posted last night to ml
shinohai: YEs pete_dushenski and mod6 in my tests it didnt change. Haven't tried setting or doing anything else since then, just letting the node run.
pete_dushenski: whereas the stock 99997k.sh yields 50400, which is what i'm seeing.
mod6: pete_dushenski: ok good q. shinohai had some issues with trying to set the value via the command line too - i haven't even tested this yet.
pete_dushenski: y patches directory. should i just wait until it syncs fully and build another rotor (with line 61 updated) or is there something else i can try ?
pete_dushenski: mod6: i have a question about the version string patch... i seem to have applied it correctly but i'm still seeing version "50400" even when trying the '-setvernum' command so i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. this is a new instance that's in the process of syncing, not 'tevye', which properly shows '99999'. i used the original 99997k script and applied 'version-strings' and 'hearnificarum' manually and both are now