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(trilema) ben_vulpes: y'ever hear the line: "don't feed the trolls"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol and yet you bit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: since when has midnightmagic's employer given a shit about profitability?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: efficiency is not a prerequisite for fab runs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic is ready to work more student exercises?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation is ready to bet against diff increases?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol 'integerial'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: this is a basic feature of integrals and curves.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another value for derpfiguration.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: magic numbers and magic thinking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: srsly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a midnightmagic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those hafta be the 2 derpiest typos of my life.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "reasons" being that i wrote a blog post saying "i don't think much happened after this"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: whar deedbot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gavinandresen ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes is amused, but not honored. if ye'd only had actual management once upon a time, this'd not be a notable achievement.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks like the shitgnomes have been working overtime to address my complaints.
(trilema) ben_vulpes was looking through recent "bitcoin-core" pull requests, found many integration testing scripts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: an informal signoff from y'bosses would be nice before i deposit this in the white porcelain turdotron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: must be considered-> is an
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/367HMKF.txt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what was the version number of openssl we determined necessary to validate the full chain?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well this signature issue is tricky as shit already - openssl is already blowing up validating the chain with anything other than...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: myeah entirely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is somewhat at sea w/r/t propaganda semantics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps a hash of the codebase instead of the semver crap?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, mod6, asciilifeform: i don't see a reason to make this much more than 25 words. do you think much detail or polemic is necessary here?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: host it y'self.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is almost as bad as defining a word with the word to be defined
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the chain that is the real chain is the chain that verifies under 0.5.3"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh man i kinda hate this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: foar posterity and posteriors
(trilema) ben_vulpes has never seen a reorg happen live
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm nominally on vaycay but...panzer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: check ur lawgz bru
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a ph0rk in progress
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought you were running a conformal impl somewhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no the conformal impl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how's btcd handling r4gn4phr0k?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cp ~/.bitcoin.bak/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plz foar not to buhlete!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: do you have a RI up-to-date?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: you around?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: meaning adopt the power ranger braindamage again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i want a man in the ground, i don't make that dependent on his wife squirting or w/e
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nodeps!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey kakobrekla how much can i cram into a rating field?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one goddamn nail at a time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man all i can do is nail this coffin closed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell lukejr listen you gotta stop it wiht this "i can tell miners what's right and wrong" bs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Most likely this is caused by broken-by-design-for-profit mining code, but none of their stuff is open source AFAIK. Maybe more details will be known with time."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reddit, for all the silencing and muting of the actual bitcoin foundation, seems to be turning the corner on sense
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "They're not running full nodes because the current 500KB blocks are too big.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Updating to the latest when what you have works is how you break things.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i never did anything, we all know that. joke's almost too easy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: primarily, me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is also curious to see how much "political capital" the derpdation burns today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: anyone can narrow the rules, but whether that's "bitcoin" is an open question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: T.I.A.S. (tm) (r) (#emacs)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: too bad, fuck them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: things either validate under 0.5.whatever or they don't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've not yet accepted this soft/hardfork duality.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: frantic action is for the impotent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have a porch of meatwot and babes that actually need attending to.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6 if you feel compelled to elaborate on this, go ahead.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Bitcoin 0.5.3 is the canonical reference implementation. If a fork occurs and one side validates on the 0.5.3 codebase while the other does not, the chain that validates under 0.5.3 is the only valid chain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: translation plox?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Except BIP 66 received 95% support from the relevant group (miners). " << ehuehuehehueeueueueueueeeee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so what, f2pool and phrenz dies next week?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: simple rehash of the "let's probe network cohesion strength" fork
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "The majority of hashing power is mining an invalid chain - it's not going to "win" - they're just wasting their effort." << euheuheuheuheuheheehueheuheuheehu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my position being "if your notion of a valid block has to patch 0.5.*, get fucked."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "However, this also means they're not checking the new BIP66 rule, and are now mining invalid blocks because of it. (another miner happened to create an invalid, non-BIP66 respecting block) If you're not using Bitcoin Core, you might be accepting transactions that won't be on the longest valid chain when all this is fixed." << curious to see if 0.5.whatever comes out on top at the end of this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: forkforkforkforkfork
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: have you tried my a47.sh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: well hey like i said instructive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: of the active users.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185122 << i grow curious about average hrs/user spent in eulora
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha that's really nifty.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: (v. instructive among other good things)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: that cutblock c util was very instructive, ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: ty for lisps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does this thing even work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first link already 404d
(trilema) ben_vulpes: muchas gracias for the hrdy link
(trilema) ben_vulpes: leading any charge is risky and painful
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: blockchain->sexprs or ragel parser
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol @ btc->sexprs, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am *not* logged up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184638 << asciilifeform, could i get a re-link to that piece on SIDS/implied infanticide?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more later, i have 2 hours of ferry ride coming up
(trilema) ben_vulpes to breakfast with meatfriends
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'll spend less, they'll work less, and your systems will be vastly better for not having mongo in them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man you can get a sql user (not an expert, mind you, but someone who understands it has used it and can avoid common retardations) at half time for approximately half the cost of some hotshit "full stack developer" who thinks mongo's a good idea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and because none of them were designed for that in the first place because a) it's hard and b) fucking retards write nosql stores for hackernooz points the algebraic layer turns out to never actually work. or it locks everything up while running queries that a real db would plan handle like a boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: much like any c project eventually grows a miserable half-assed implementation of an eighth of common lisp any nosql project eventually tries to implement relational alggebra
(trilema) ben_vulpes: otherwise you're going to start running the kind of braindamaged queries your 'nosql' layer support and then glomming it all together into something representing a query in application code
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude if it has a hint of structure it belongs in a relational db
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and even that can be handled by mother postgres at rather high efficiencies these days)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've yet to see the real world problem that a nosql db was actually the right solution to that wasn't actually a cacheing/cdn problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: i'm finally seeing the tide receed from mongo's highwater
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you can even derp the raw binary into pg if you're so inclined
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you're storing as the appropriate ints, floats, doubles, strings etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes does not see the problem with hashing values queried directly out of the db
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but perhaps there's a good reason for writing the blocks directly to disk that i'm not grasping
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the whole thing should be in sqlite at the very least
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've lost weeks, months of my life to the unqueriability of mongo and phriendz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucking kv stores
(trilema) ben_vulpes: p. sure the transaction indices were tossed for space saving reasons aka shitgnomery
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was under the impression that it was either not relational or was only being used in bitcoind as a kv store
(trilema) ben_vulpes: huh bdb is actually relational?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has anyone verified the full chain as puked out from asciilifeform's `shitblock`?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you had the whole blockchain querieable in postgres, you could infer account balances in the usual fashion and sell reads over a pg connection
(trilema) ben_vulpes: attn aspiring asseteers!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: now is when i confess to a quarter-implemented blockchain->relational db importer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: problem is chips not boxes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: by the time that happens, the two'll be indistinguishable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this torture won't be performed by the usg, but regular ol' bandits.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and so everyone quakes in their boots and lines up to pay or report their neighbors or whatever it is that they want today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and perhaps this is the hallmark of fascist states - how would I know, only recently having started to crawl out from under my brainwashing - that they can't possibly deliver on their promises of complete surveillance (let's just take tax collection for one tiny slice of the thing), but they freeze any individuals assets on a whim to prevent their fighting back on tax charges.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maybe changing -> affecting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: its this terrifying beast that in the large is incapable of changing anything, but should its eye orient towards any individual woe unto them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how else to maintain the illusion that the whole thing matters.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in that sense obab (as proxy for the usg) does in fact own my company to a far greater degree than i ever can
(trilema) ben_vulpes: obligatory reference to "owning a thing means being able to destroy it"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right, that's the real test.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no but no but no but
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no man you just don't understand how the world works
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus drones!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and killed bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the recovery
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and cash for clunkers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but obama fixed gay marriage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: having trouble understanding why big money would put him on the throne
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tough gedanken
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only solution is to burn everything in sight that pisses one off.
(trilema) ben_vulpes to the augean stables
(trilema) ben_vulpes has binaries to copy between wordprexen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it's not me, it's the black hole"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didja read the most recent orlol asciilifeform posted?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: i'm just looking at the we/i thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "These statements strike us as being crazy and misguided. And for good reason. I have met some of these elites." << is dood schizo or am i reading too much into things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually imagining that is probably what got them all het up in the first place
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: you pissed them off just by being seen with chicka? imagine their rage if you'd /slept/ with her!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i never got the static build on os x
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> bonus points for testing on heathen compilers << rather
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fun with coordinate system transforms!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i never had to drop the switch, but it did take a couple of swipes at me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only way to get work done with *that* kind of robot is to put it into slow mode and hold dead-man switch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1183894 << see i did the same thing but with a motoman up20, and only for like a day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * ascii_field mentally blows dust off his unwritten magnum opus re: ternary computing, 'tertium datur' << never have i been so hooked on so much promiseware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat parallels to parasitism in nature.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> yet another place where bitcoind and kernel merge. << linux's fate: hosting bitcoin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> (thing stows blocks in real time, never erases. see src) << i missed this, somehow. link me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> ascii_field: shit, you are right, the amazon s2d is just a pretty TLS wrapper around the openssl crypto turd << one stops being surprised eventually
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> who wants to run an editor that can open the net ? << why wouldn't your editor connect to the net at your command?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people raise such idiots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182919 << why? and how can i possibly evaluate any advice in this context?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181766 << not worth a thousand words eh ? << only maybe if well curated, but that breaks the whole algorithmic share allocation routine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: madison dillon needs some practice
(trilema) ben_vulpes to bed, and tomorrow's blocknews
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hands to the keyboard, minds to VN, lives to the altar of technology.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis a messy business. men lose hands, minds and lives.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what is the casing of an oil well made of?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform would love to sleep forever, i would like to program in lisp all day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: java too likely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: objc/dom tech, BingoBoingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the whole thing implodes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we'll be writing swift and javascript's successors until linus goes insane while still at the helm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i'm a reluctant frontend guy to begin with.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm uninterested in anything new that touches the dom
(trilema) ben_vulpes: di i still have to fuck with the dom in webasm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sharp lisper might be able to sell software in that space.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can that be a common lisp runtime?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (because "'we'll iterate on it, instead of asking the engineers")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (that arrive wet)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (to deliver a pair of socks that nobody asked for)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i say that as a guy who duct tapes jet fighters to submarines
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it just takes the "duct tape the jet fighter to the submarine" mindset to a revolting degree
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm starting to wonder of 'clojure all the things' isn't a poettering-smell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good god man there are so many layers in that thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: long day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh naaaaitve
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes to read trinque's thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funkenstein_: "hammered"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: i haven't done clj->js in 5-10 months, so everything i know is probably stale
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: you probly want reagent if it isn't rotting in place
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should be legal! let the chumps get chumped.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mats> like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry << normal american stock ponzi in action
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to buy a bunch of goddamn trucks.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ba-dump-psh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: own vehicles, record video
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decentralize nothing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: embrace the surveillance state
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude video cameras
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a hazard of the dude's occupation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, i'm just going to put everyone involved with the piloting of vehicles out of work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm speshul tho. i'm cool and i get to drive my car as much as i want :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stop burning all the fucking oil to get your dumb asses around!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich
(trilema) ben_vulpes: starting with cabs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trucks, whatever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i want to be able to put 5 million down on a fleet of robot cars and wreck an industry or 5
(trilema) ben_vulpes: robot cars when
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