assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 02:48:21; asciilifeform: just remember boyzngurls, syntactic sugar leads to cancer of the semicolon!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413402 << do we care to be explicit for the logs ?
mircea_popescu: or maybe it's the 2010s equivalent of that epic 2000s kid with the "oh i gotta go to iraq brb" chatlog.
mircea_popescu: 02/10/2013 - FORCE attempts to create an account with Bitstamp using identification documents in the name of his DEA-issued undercover identity (Nob). Bitstamp's verification process rejected these documents as not genuine. FORCE there after provided Bitstamp with his own personal identification documents.
mircea_popescu: and, to best establish the fame as well as the intellectual wherewithal of the famous "grab me and my bag" force - here's the cannonical example : \
mircea_popescu: "c.g." is a random derp of no consequence that got nicked and passed his account over to the baltimore establishment of unintentional humour maintained on public funds.
mircea_popescu: context for the innocent : the carl force iv derp writes from one of the numerous troll accounts on sr to ulbricht derp. it's not clear whether he's doing this thinly veiled attempt at psychology on behalf of his employer or as an independent contractor working a little moonlight, but
mircea_popescu: look here : "DeathFromAbove writes to DPR, "It's not that easy [AA]. I'm legit. Green Beret. Friend of [C.G.]. I have access to TS/SCI files that FBI, DEA, AFP, SOCA would kill for. In fact, that is what I do ... kill. The only thing that I do . . . Don't worry DoD has no interest in you and your little website. North Korea and Iran are a lot more important. In fact, as far as the Army and Navy are concerned you are a
mircea_popescu: lmao what the fuck is this "green beret" bullshit.
assbot: Despite massive changes in hashrate antpool and f2pool never vary more than 2-3% distribution from each other is this just a polite fiction were are supposed to accept? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rk3Jm2 )
pete_dushenski: in other news, apparently $20k baby wraps are a thing.
mats: gotta crush the upstarts making fools of obama
pete_dushenski: so what's it include ? each other's non-existent foot soldiers ?
assbot: Putin: We agreed with Obama on a statement in the framework of Syria Support Group to stop military operations in Syria – Syrian Arab News Agency ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyD4Iw )
phf: i'm sure the chip went same way, some chinese american female student, "say, prof sussman, how about you sell your life's work to highest bidder on this hip website. it'll legitimize what you did because you're no longer just a nerd, but now also an artist"
phf: "when did they get to him!"
ben_vulpes: this one's in the log somewhere
phf: "The fundamental difference is that programming today is all about doing science on the parts you have to work with. That means looking at reams and reams of man pages and determining that POSIX does this thing, but Windows does this other thing, and patching together the disparate parts to make a usable whole.
assbot: The Snowtide Blog » Blog Archive » Why MIT now uses python instead of scheme for its undergraduate CS program ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyChao )
phf: sussman was there though, when mit switched from sicp to python for their intro programming course, and he defended that decision with his remarks at ILC https://web.archive.org/web/20090327115612/http://blog.snowtide.com/2009/03/24/why-mit-now-uses-python-instead-of-scheme-for-its-undergraduate-cs-program
ben_vulpes: what confluence of events put scheme-81 chips in the hands of people who 3d print passwords to github repos in sumerian tablet reproduction style
pete_dushenski: i don't for a second think it's just correlation. wealth can't guarantee anything any more than obama - but can wealth, unlike obama, provide opportunities ? i'm inclined to say so. ergo wealthy man can at least materially afford personal car-computer, whether or not he can intellectually afford it is borne by whether or not he actually does.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413357 << cdn ain't what she used to be. btc is like 600 bones atm… not that that's the point, on which i agree with you that culture != $$$$ (as per http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/14/terrible-nasty-unfair-evil-no-good-money-and-its-relation-to-net-worth/). that being said, i see even fewer cultured fellows with lower net worths than with higher net worths and
phf: "This lot includes two Scheme-81 computer chips, signed by Gerald Sussman. This lot also includes a commemorative 3D-printed Babylonian styled tablet containing the password to a private Github repository where the buyer may access an image of the Scheme-81 chips."
mod6: i'll check out the ps tho
mod6: some good examples of stuff in there.
phf: sicp is more of a "all you need to know about computation as a thing" book, rather then specifically a way to learn scheme. i know very few people who actually got through it on their own
phf: it's basically a self contained, and very readable spec of the language
ben_vulpes: cancer of the semilollin
asciilifeform: just remember boyzngurls, syntactic sugar leads to cancer of the semicolon!
BingoBoingo: My reading of the history is r6rs was a coup attempt to turn scheme into a sort of python or perl with too much built in shit
asciilifeform: the sheer rot.
asciilifeform: straight to the stove with it.
asciilifeform: r6rs heresies (motherfucking square brackets!)
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 01:21:21; asciilifeform: http://www.scheme.com/tspl4 << another pretty good source.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's their reaction to some derpy sports story about career of guy who sportsballed and then became a rape-cop who is now in prison. Derps published the story now other derps are trying to indict the entire concept of long form over the story.
mircea_popescu: their opinion on stuff like trilema is about as welcome as the housewife's thoughts on stage makeup.
mircea_popescu: the collected "profession" of "journalist" can't if working together think a thousand words ahead.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what the fuck is that retarded nonsense.
assbot: A Few Thoughts On Longform, Inspired By The Current Debate Over Its Significance And Necessity In Our Fast-Changing Media Landscape - The Awl ... ( http://bit.ly/1PTQCre )
asciilifeform: but scheme is quite a pleasant language to bootstrap from the ground.
mod6: and the tinyscheme docs
asciilifeform: a number of folks don't seem to grasp that financial and cultural poverty are quite separate things. visit usa, the land of countless millionaires who have never opened a book, and hobos with half a ph.d. in mathematics.
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 23:54:45; pete_dushenski: if you're not making $100k++ per annum and cannot afford extra rooms in house or apartment to enjoy as 'office', then yes, a jungle man is you. in which case, you're using a phablet primarily and a dusty laptop on rare occasions when you need to print a document. the only exception being, perhaps, g4amerz.
asciilifeform: mod6: there is no 'system' in our tinyscheme.
asciilifeform: mod6: 'guile' is another scheme interpreter.
mod6: i guess it just says "unbound variable: system" but it seems to be in the docs under extentions. *shrug*
mod6: i think im like, getting lost in all the different dialects of lisp.
mod6: like there's this thing called 'guile' that'll let you issue system commands and such...
mod6: me too, busy as f. but im out of the woods on this work thing i think.
pete_dushenski: wondering where the day went :)
pete_dushenski: wonder what they actually got
mircea_popescu: in other aristocratit news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/18454d5c897e2a6b1577e6a12fb3ff84/tumblr_msnpp8XWZE1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
pete_dushenski: if you're not making $100k++ per annum and cannot afford extra rooms in house or apartment to enjoy as 'office', then yes, a jungle man is you. in which case, you're using a phablet primarily and a dusty laptop on rare occasions when you need to print a document. the only exception being, perhaps, g4amerz.
asciilifeform: i dun see it re: the desktop.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: that's an apt analogy in that both car and hdd are superficially affordable, but not practically. old car costs hundreds if not thousands in unexpected maintenance EVERY YEAR. hdd costs time, space, troubleshooting, etcetc. a car you own outright (ie. no debt payments), like a desktop you own outright (ie. no winbloze avec nsa) are exceedingly high-end appointments. neither is 'accessible' in any way.
asciilifeform: the equivalent of 'your own hdd' transportation-wise would be, perhaps, a chopper.
asciilifeform: driving yourself, on public streets, is still rather like 'cloud storage'
asciilifeform: not really similar other than in cost
jurov: so where's the difference?
asciilifeform: and pretty much anyone in usa can afford an old car (they start at a few hundy)
pete_dushenski: there's everything aristocratic about owning the means of production and transportation. why do you think 'car sharing' and 'sharing economy' are so in vogue with the impoverished masters degree set ?
pete_dushenski: and if you're going to take car to desert, make sure it's the utah salt flats https://talesfromthebatcoupedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/img_0573.jpg
pete_dushenski: then take plane. no one will stop you.
pete_dushenski: well, don't drive in traffic. take scenic route. that's the whole point of car. the scenery. as well as the ability to stop here for lunch and there for coffee and over there for an ice cream, etc.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i meant, airplane to it, and the cab inside.
asciilifeform: take it to the desert ?
pete_dushenski: neither is any sort of freedom.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: say you want to pop up to montreal for the week, so you rent something fast, enjoy yourself with pet. road trip chats are quite unlike anything else.
asciilifeform: the best car is a dirigible.
pete_dushenski: there is no such thing as a pleasant commute. it's for slaves and sucks commensurately. as it should.
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 04:46:10; mircea_popescu: fact of the matter is, when it comes to technology we're all bums. nobody can make a fucking car he'd want to drive.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: for at least the next decade, i'll have to take your word on this
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: what's the big deal about being original ? that's not the talk to someone visiting a hotel. 'this living out of a suitcase thing is really most splendid, why doesn't everyone do this?'
asciilifeform: http://tinymicros.com/mediawiki/images/e/ec/MC14500B_Handbook.pdf << re: above, scan of the b00k
pete_dushenski: traction for those more interested in what their peers ~think~ they do than what they actually do.
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 04:23:22; mircea_popescu: phf no, it's the porsche for a new generation. tho i'm unsure whether anyone here understands or cares to think about what those things ~are~.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1412957 << my reading of porsche for the 60s generation was a certain professional young man's (or well-heeled dilettante's) europhilic desire for post-war rennsport purity. the 90s/00s generation came to fetishise this, detaching it from reality, and in the process adding dildos of every unspeakable sort to the ak that was. in this sense, casascius coins are a necessary
asciilifeform: tput bit. The design engineer was supposed to make that signal do something useful, like load the PC with some address.'
asciilifeform: 'So the inevitable question is "how did a jump work?" That was entirely up to the engineer crafting the circuits. The OEN instruction could be used to disable any changes occurring on the output data; at the end of a loop assert OEN and let the machine execute whatever instructions - hopefully NOPs - remained until the PC rolled over. There was a JMP, but that instruction simply toggled an ou
asciilifeform: 'it didn't have a program counter. Designers were expected to create one external to the CPU. It's width was, well, anything the developer wanted. Running a tiny bit of code? Maybe an 8 bit PC was appropriate. Or 32 bits for those applications needing 4 GN (giga-nibbles) of powerhouse processing.'
mircea_popescu: i can show there's shoeboxes in the cryptologically hard cabinet under the drawer with bras and shit
mircea_popescu: one can show there's shoeboxes ?
asciilifeform: where is the mention of, e.g., np hardness ??
asciilifeform: he more pessimistic related-key model, one can show that any 16-round differential path for any of the LED versions will contain at least 50 active Sboxes.'
asciilifeform: 'The LED lightweight block cipher provide strong security arguments against all state-of-the-art attacks, even in the related-key model. In particular against differential and linear cryptanalysis: one can easily show that any 4-round differential path for any of the LED versions will contain at least 25 active Sboxes (i.e. Sboxes with a non-zero difference) in the single-key model. Even in t
asciilifeform: not impossible, but also no reason why they'd stop at cping
mircea_popescu: the error there is to assume this was in any sense deliberate. was not, sop. except nobody cares what hitler does to anon derps.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> as for deharting, it isn't altogether different from what american medics do to folks ~anyway~ << word.
asciilifeform: as for deharting, it isn't altogether different from what american medics do to folks ~anyway~
asciilifeform: the one that isn't 'affirmative action compliant'
pete_dushenski: think of the overhead
asciilifeform: i am only still walking because not worth the whatever 50k or what it costs to have a man deharted
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 01:41:14; asciilifeform: 'Bien Darkmans then, Bouse Mort and Ken The bien Coves bings awast, On Chates to trine by Rome-Coves dine, For his long lib at last.'
pete_dushenski: and start a 'safe the alf' bitcoin fund for your defense. you'll be fine.
pete_dushenski: assbot: show the courtz your enumerated goodness and that it doesn't include kiddy pr0n.
asciilifeform fully expects to get deharted at some point in the none too distant future.
PeterL: what I mean is if you want to add a host to your list, where do you get the ip?
PeterL: regarding removing dns, is there a replacement mechanism for resolving hosts not on your short list?
mircea_popescu: at the earliest.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mod6 there it is, cheers!
BingoBoingo: Seriously, but torts in TMSR are possibru in the future
BingoBoingo once took graduate classes where this was presented as some sort of "organic" phenomenon in black America even though the white evangalists of socialism (many of whom were influenced by the St Louis Hegelians) were prominently mentioned by the black authors in their literature.
mircea_popescu: and in out there news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/b2428a12541602e3059789fbf4d042d5/tumblr_o204u8okbr1qas1eao1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0279d6b242bbf03963306d28eecc107f/tumblr_mjie69W4CR1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: and i'm not sure i wouldn't trade places with them.
asciilifeform: l0l there are window washers dangling outside my office
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was iirc a flaw with chinese remainders, that was introduced much like the dns hole, for no reason, and then burned.
asciilifeform: it radiates just the same.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc their last paper concerned rsa
asciilifeform: and where is the patch for gpg 1.4 ?
mircea_popescu: but hey, why say this. why say dns is bs. why say any of the things that actually matter, when instead could just discuss convenient generalities.
asciilifeform: phun phakt, mitre is one of the largest usg 'think tank' setups.
mircea_popescu: neway, therein lies the fix : https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2016q1/000384.html
BingoBoingo relishes that moment seeing a headline with "CryptoFascist" and having no idea which way the story under it is going to go when read.
asciilifeform: it is possible to calculate in such a way that the same bits are radiated regardless of inputs. but NOT on x86.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no rule that you have to leak useful bits.
mircea_popescu: ie they forgot to mention it works specifically on ec crypto. but anyway.
asciilifeform: a proper reenactment of the scene depicted in 'cryptonomicon'
asciilifeform: looks like different paper. this time with honest antenna and no electrical connection to the victim
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it references cve 2015 7511, so it would be the one last year
asciilifeform: but otherwise same setup
asciilifeform: or hm, the last one was on ground leakage
asciilifeform: http://news.softpedia.com/news/experiment-gets-encryption-key-from-computer-in-another-room-through-the-wall-500701.shtml << for some reason i thought the very same paper by the very same people came out last year ???
asciilifeform: 'Maintainer promised 72 virgins if he made a release. Maintainer was not told that they were all Richard Branson clones. Maintainer is pretty cheesed off about that.' << http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/xa lulz
mircea_popescu: and to assuage any fears for the pr0n, http://40.media.tumblr.com/741391ebf0c2b9fd420dfe99031e3753/tumblr_mthsgb1EVZ1qlne6uo1_12080.jpg
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2013 19:43:20; taub: Ulbricht posted on Stack Overflow using his real name, asking .How can I connect to a Tor hidden service using curl in php?.. One minute later he changed his username to .frosty., but a subpoena shows the original name.
assbot: Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oDpHYg )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#comment-116612
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo do you happen to know offhand where on qntra is the affidavit of random usg derp that claims ross ulbricht was found through whatever experts sex change website ? << not offhand, can dig prolly december 2014
deedbot-: [Trilema] Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations - http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you happen to know offhand where on qntra is the affidavit of random usg derp that claims ross ulbricht was found through whatever experts sex change website ?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:20:40; mircea_popescu: moe finds bitcoin in 2056, long after the republic prevailed, through his gf at the time. he steals her script, copies her .wot directory and now has a node!
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 18:38:19; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: short summary: patch submitted by google chrome devs themselves; supposedly to simplify their sandbox 'jail' mechanism
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 12:06:43; mircea_popescu: in other lolz, the interwebs offers exactly 0 information on how to turn dns lookups off, or itable it away, or ufw/csf/etc it shut, or any of that. because apparently this is not something one could want to do. it will break your internet! why ? dns is about as useful as painted wings on a cow, there's exactly nothing internet-wise that needs (or for that matter even significantly benefits from) dns
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413047 << we had this very thread a year ago, when first encountered the libnss claptrap
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 05:16:47; phf: perhaps i could lightly annotate serialize machinery to get objects across the boundary, asciilifeform?
mircea_popescu: the world, if you had the misfortune of being spawned by a dumbass with a drunkard, mostly consists of things "you couldn't possibily want", let alone need.
mircea_popescu: baked in everywhere, to the level of fucking glibc (what fucking business does glibc have with offering a spurious aliasing service for ips AT ALL ?! that shit belongs three levels below glibc!)
mircea_popescu: in other lolz, the interwebs offers exactly 0 information on how to turn dns lookups off, or itable it away, or ufw/csf/etc it shut, or any of that. because apparently this is not something one could want to do. it will break your internet! why ? dns is about as useful as painted wings on a cow, there's exactly nothing internet-wise that needs (or for that matter even significantly benefits from) dns. nevertheless it's
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 11:11:37; mircea_popescu: in other news, qntra is on the first google page for the thing o.O
phf: perhaps i could lightly annotate serialize machinery to get objects across the boundary, asciilifeform?
JuliaTourianski_: they're great gifts
punkman: JuliaTourianski_: just the maxfield.me/blog/ link
phf: (ben_vulpes asciilifeform http://glyf.org/tmp/shiva-swank-op.png only works for own defined functions though, neither builtins nor ffi stuff seems to have enough meta)
JuliaTourianski_: the paintings within are by us
punkman: I like the Kialara coins, certainly different than all the other crap coins. but why would I buy one signed by Ricky Allman or JuliaTourianski? did you do the art on the back side?
JuliaTourianski_: im writing a post called "It's not that there's no jobs, it's that your standards are too high. "
mircea_popescu: splendid bit in there, right in the final sketch, de funes is this breton dude. "ils m'ont liquide!"
JuliaTourianski_: regarding the kialaras... they're pretty pieces of art (which by wilde's definition is valuable in it of itself) plus they have the btc behind them, so they're an investment.
mircea_popescu: all they need is some sluts in furs smoking out of hookas or some shit.
mircea_popescu: look at the item in question, it's faintly cog-like, and mysteriously made of parts bla bla. same exact play, for same exact reason.
mircea_popescu: hence new york was elegant in 1920, by the time it was just starting to no longer matter,
mircea_popescu: elegance is specifically the scent of early putrefaction.
mircea_popescu: and this is EXACTLY what elegance is. no fucking farmer in the midwest, building an empire and about to kick the fuherer's teeth in can POSSIBLY be elegant.
mircea_popescu: fact of the matter is, when it comes to technology we're all bums. nobody can make a fucking car he'd want to drive.
mircea_popescu: and they're not pitching to people who could buy the damned cars, but to twentysomething derps in college.
mircea_popescu: look at "european cars", they've been selling the same damned thing for 30 years now. you ever watch one of their ads ?
asciilifeform: he puts on the play for himself?
mircea_popescu: so then what gives ?
mircea_popescu: note that i picked the bum specifically. for derps in "secure neighbourhoods", showing off to the neighbour is arguably a +ev move. who knows, maybe neighbour's daughter comes to do your house work in the nude or something. as faint as it may be - you're not going to get in fucking trouble for being an asshole. not so for bum. for bum, veblen goods are suicide goods.
mircea_popescu: for one thing - who the fuck is he going to call ? for the other - how is he going to even get it to work ? for yet another, it matters not so much if the thing even works in the first place.
punkman: danielpbarron: bitcoin can never exist strictly as a physical token; there needs to be some sort of bank-like entity to put a name on it << the keys are always stored on physical tokens. unless you have a brainwallet (and the mind-reading machine has not been invented yet).
asciilifeform: have seen the abstract fact of bum with phone, yes
asciilifeform: what they are
mircea_popescu: phf no, it's the porsche for a new generation. tho i'm unsure whether anyone here understands or cares to think about what those things ~are~.
phf: seems like it would appeal to the same "commemorative" crowd as in fiat
mircea_popescu: i can see what the girls are trying to do. it's nb.
asciilifeform: to the extent 'physical coin' is a mechanism for storing actual coin, vs mere decoration, it is a Bad Idea.
assbot: You rated user JuliaTourianski_ on 22-Sep-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Manages the beer for a family owned Russian bathouse with handmage sausages in Mississauga..
mircea_popescu: i never cared, myself. nubbins` is the resident expert really.
phf: the one on second ave has pretty good food, but it's really just one guy cooking it. this wallstreetspa place seems like they might have a cook
phf: i've noticed that, there's a place right between the sophia and blue mosque, that's all turist.
JuliaTourianski_: the general rule is...the more expensive a bathhouse is, the less authentic cuz only white tourists would pay that much to bathe...
phf: is that the one that's few blocks away from hagia sophia?
JuliaTourianski_: in turkey, we were walking round hoping to go to a hamam the next day..when we saw steam rising from one of the buildings...we inquired to find the oldest haman of turkey! it was amazing. they scrubbed me down so hard. and they giggled at my shyness.
JuliaTourianski_: if they so choose
JuliaTourianski_: not true. the unisex nude on in san fran gave me no discount
JuliaTourianski_: they gave me a discount cuz I'm a fellow owner
JuliaTourianski_: I like the fulton st bathhouse in nyc (amazing food), and this one http://www.russianturkishbaths.com/ nice atmosphere, oldschool family run
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 19:08:14; phf: as soon as i can move again, i'm going to make it to russian&turkish baths in nyc. they don't really do saunas on the east coast, but that baths place is awesome
JuliaTourianski_: my mother got a call the other day with some guy asking her if we have glory holes. she had no idea what he meant.
mircea_popescu: so... how about you pay the fine establishment a visit phf ?
mircea_popescu: yes but which side of the pancake.
JuliaTourianski_: will be running 2 in the forseeable future
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assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 22:49:39; phf: aah, i'll ask him when he's around, but that's west coast. they have great saunas there
trinque: <ben_vulpes> yo hey yo hey << looks like my bouncer took a crap while I was out for the weekend. sup!
asciilifeform: the buffer has to be a certain length...
phf: tinyscheme can't read strings longer then #define STRBUFFSIZE 256, hmm
deedbot-: [Trilema] Eulora auction, February the 28th - http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-auction-february-the-28th/
asciilifeform: they got this 'studiously ignore' thing going on, tho
mircea_popescu: actually strike that, they are very aware.
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mircea_popescu: amusingly bitbet is the largest pool on that topic on the whole internets, nobody seems to be aware of the situation.
asciilifeform: 'I have one bet on at 2:3 against AlphaGo winning against Sedol in March - they get my $667 if AlphaGo wins, I get their $1000 if AlphaGo loses. Does anyone else like those odds? (They originally offered me $1000 to $1500 and I've decided that I regret not taking the full amount.) EDIT: Have reached current betting capacity on Sedol at $1500 to $2250, others may still be taking bets.' << the whole thing.
asciilifeform: then you : could simply equal '
phf: they have some package hack foo::bar (and not foo:bar), which mostly just breaks things
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought that this was already there, selectably
phf: right now it's a bit jury rigged though. most intrusive is the addition of "keywords" to scheme.c, i.e. :foo evaluates to :foo
asciilifeform: for the taste