phf: their whole experience of su is through intourist propotainment and politruk control. who's going to let an american nobody in a company of the valuable products of soviet system. it's a needless risk. at best you get invited to some aparatchik family dinner and get to playbelieve "i was even friends with a russian family!"
phf: american experience in su was highly mediated. i've had a chance to meet a handful of these "spent some time in su in the 80s" types, and at best their conclusion is "them russkies are no worse then us". not like they would be allowed to spend their leasure time in the company of my grandfather and his friends, etc.
pete_dushenski: can't teach old dog new tricks. no sense trying to persuade 60yo that life was wasted in the pursuit of the evil and the wrong.
asciilifeform: time travel is on the table now ?!
pete_dushenski: i wouldn't send them anywhere. it's not for me to lead their lives. but a couple of years in 2nd-tier city in 80s ru wouldn't have hurt.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: where would you send them to travel ?
pete_dushenski: o ? and just how well travelled are these 1960ists that you can say 'no amount' will suffice ?
asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 02:36:48; asciilifeform: 'Like other armies the Germans emplaced booby traps to catch unwary souvenir-hunters, but they also used them to cause casualties among Allied small-unit leaders by locating them in possible command post and observation post sites. One example of this was to conceal a booby trap behind a framed picture left hanging crooked on an interior wall of a house: the Germans reasoned that only an officer would
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415110 << ok that's just plain crafty. tip o' the cap.
asciilifeform: it is on just such folk that the reich still stands.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:58:08; mircea_popescu: and in even more other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/173588322d445d2b59ce0572a36c6298/tumblr_nhqf0lTVs81sfkfqio1_500.gif
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415159 << ok fess up! who put the spy camera in my kitchen?!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: perfect in the sense of pleads guilty though admits no wrongdoing, sure.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 07:22:41; ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the perfect sort for hanging
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:21:34; mircea_popescu: seriously, if you can't paint a canvas within 10x10, or if you can't tell your story in 700mb, you've got other problems than painting or making movies.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: he's from an older generation than we are, knows what he's doing. believes in legitimacy of copyrasta wholly afaik. can't be far from retirement either, and it's awfully hard to imagine anyone bothering to hang him for his crimes.
asciilifeform: and 'has no idea' what comes out of the showerheadz?
pete_dushenski: blockchain millenium should be sometime in 2026. we'll all be old men by then!
phf: there's a great place for sauna, fi
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DDN | I woke up in a hot sweat due to a terrible DDN... It started with me being in a prison shower and dropping the soap. Did you get the new dvd of "White chicks and ...
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415090 << had ukrs been offered free land there a century ago and ro jews offered refuge there 50 years ago, i would've could've should've. but fi didn't, to my knowledge, do either such thing. so here we are.
asciilifeform: anybody has thoughts about the Dolev-Dwork-Naor asymmetric cipher ?
phf: pretty easy way of preventing it, authenticate at connect, not with /msg nickserv
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this should be the millionium, best festival ever.
asciilifeform: (who has seen the very colourful cartoon 'book of kells' ?)
asciilifeform: and we're in a monastery, trying to preserve a few tidbits, while orcs hammer on the gates.
mircea_popescu: it'd work splendidly in lispnix, an alt-universe where mit still teaches computing instead of being "the premier science and technology institution in the world"
mircea_popescu: in other news, perhaps the definitive depiction of exceeded old woman trying to cling to a delusion of control through formalism : http://archive.li/SzW0e/b36166b3370577c75796ec355295c8e5e6166a46.jpg (naomi klein at occupy wallstreet derpage)
mircea_popescu: creatiung the complete tree of all the ways this sad tactical truth has bitten us in practice, and then defending it against broad strategic discussions is beyond sane use of time or resources.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter when it would apply. it turns out, through bitter experience, that c machines and especially the slaves that feed them can NOT live in a world where there's not strict, table-lookup-based, equivalency between words and chars.
mircea_popescu: fucking state in the string processor, are you kidding me ?
mircea_popescu: if i take a buffer, split it up in words, and give you some and him some, and you convert them to strings and give them back, i must be able to reconsturct the original buffer without possibility of error.
asciilifeform: we suffer from quite the opposite.
asciilifeform: nobody has turing machine there
mircea_popescu: but the fucking concept of putting a turing complete machine in the bitstream/string mapping has got to fucking burn already. who the fuck even hatched this idiocy.
mircea_popescu: you'll still going to have to do some porting. just as long as it's not 52 or some other mit-esque idiocy, should really not be a big deal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, im not sure what the benefit from the old machines perspective is for the char to be 16 rather than 64.
mircea_popescu: but in general speaking, the point stands anyway
mircea_popescu: the current tech pretty much run its course, wetware or w/e comes next will prolly not do bits)
mircea_popescu: (it seems perhaps a smart move to actually make it 64 bit - for one thing there will probablyt never be 128 bit machines.
mircea_popescu: i would have been very firmly 8 bit in the old days
asciilifeform: (the traditional ru kbd is virtually unknown among emigre folks, everybody uses 'translit' like the chinese do)
asciilifeform: i, like many ru folks, do this in the keyboard
asciilifeform: and then decode.
asciilifeform: 16 bit is enough to hold even kanji and other savagery.
mircea_popescu: the point is FIXED bitwidth alphabet, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: also, i am not in the sliughtest against 16 bit chars.
asciilifeform: incidentally there can be a good argument for 16bit chars.
asciilifeform: incidentally, mircea_popescu would do well to remember that the bulk of the material worth reading accessible on the net is non-latin (specifically cyrillic!1111)
phf: i've been mulling over that question with logs. fwiw, entire log can be kept in memory for analysis, annotation, whatever, 180mb as utf-8 byte arrays. with unicode strings takes up twice the memory on 16-bit cmucl, and ~~4 times on 32-bit sbcl. i'm not yet convinced that transcoding everything you get into string and then transcoding it back to a bytearray onto the wire is the best strategy
mircea_popescu: in other news of alfish interest, speaking of snipping off bumps : http://40.media.tumblr.com/bd76b0421433086710a7efa6a4281917/tumblr_nk18baK9hD1so15avo2_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: what happens when it gets dumped into the hopper anyway.
mircea_popescu: i'd personally much prefer unicode join the scrap heap with "pki", dns, ntp etc.
phf: no, and while we're on downsides, unicode integration into the rest of the system is dodgy (there's a lot of assumptions in lateral code that chars are 1 byte)
mircea_popescu: and in other febrrrruary news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/dcab94c115ba3aa2bfd4e48ab50be0e0/tumblr_nml7moRH3t1rx7eu1o1_1280.jpg
phf: tradeoffs) and much better for floating. there's still a tightly integrated interpreter (i heard sbcl brought that back in recent releases), so doing eval even on early 2000s machines is almost instantaneous for repl work. memory usage is much much better (pretty sure sbcl core policy is "memory is cheap")
phf: i kind of look at it like version 0.5.3. there's barely any development on it, very little actively harmful code, if you don't count asdf 3.* in contribs. it works, it can be studied and improved upon, as it stands it's utterly ignored by the cool kids. there are also of course technical merits, the compiler is conceptually identical and on average almost as good (there were many micro optimizations done by sbcl team, but even they are
trinque: when I get around to it I'm going to pester the port maintainer to get a flavor going for that
phf: it's a bit down the pipeline for me. there were some attempts to make cmucl go entirely syscall, but as it stands it's probably 40% there. i want to link it to musl first, and then play around with control interfaces uses curses/cl-charm, which is when i'll test out this thing
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, 'pogo4' is back on crapazon, $18
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415319 << lulzy how the nsa turd in arm cpu catches on with the derps, but wintel 'tpm' didn't
mircea_popescu: "The top games on mobile in 2015 are the same games that were at the top of the charts in 2012" << if that pond ain't dead...
kakobrekla: i didnt say 'what' is open. could as well be the doors.
asciilifeform: anybody got a sample of the binary?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i only vaguely track the vctardation.
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mircea_popescu: bitcoin.info tries to hijack everyone's servers by having them run some closed source item.
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mircea_popescu: it's unclear that giving away coca-cola for free specifically hurts the thing coca-cola is a head of.
jurov: i don't see where, you mean the "hd fury" box?
asciilifeform: i won't make tv either.
asciilifeform: it is exactly the kind of item the chinese excell at, and attempting to compete with them on the field would be moronic.
asciilifeform: these aren't cryptoinstruments, parachutes that one lives and dies by.
jurov: the boxes discussed 3 lines above it
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 14:35:43; jurov: will s.nsa develop and sell them?
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Most Serene Republic's list of rogue states, unrecognized goverments and criminal syndicates - http://trilema.com/2016/the-most-serene-republics-list-of-rogue-states-unrecognized-goverments-and-criminal-syndicates/
mircea_popescu: some people didn't really want to have said what they did in fact say back in 2012! awww!
mircea_popescu: notice how the mpoe-pr blowing the cover off pirate is on page 41 in 2013, around the middle, but on page 40 right at the top in 2015 ?
mircea_popescu: in lulzy "theymos' discreet criminal entreprise" news, https://archive.is/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.msg854918%23msg854918
mircea_popescu: shinohai mind using direct links rather than that crap ?
jurov: ok, ftfy: but not while the chief engineer thinks himself usg subject, i guess
mircea_popescu: the usg has no authority to have subjects.
jurov: but not while the chief engineer is usg subject, i guess
jurov: will s.nsa develop and sell them?
mircea_popescu: funny, kinda related to the article im cooking.
asciilifeform: it is necessary for the usg burial.
asciilifeform: the final muzzle to put in enemy's mouth.
asciilifeform: i cite the cable method as a kind of final solution.
punkman: there are also licensed software players, that route might be easier
asciilifeform: take an official lcd tv, attach fpga where the panel ribbon cable was.
asciilifeform: hm site must've been 'slashdotted' at time of article then
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 13:24:10; punkman: on the hdmi/hdcp side: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/warner-bros-sues-hd-fury-over-boxes-that-can-copy-4k-video/
mircea_popescu: but more than on one occasion i could tell the 30-something year old's past by my own cinavia, and the situation was pretty much exactly "i brought her up here after the first date and basically - she never left"
mircea_popescu: WHY thefuck would someone WANT one of these is beyond the scope of this article, or my capacity to reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i think it's nest building. dudes have discovered that the way to attract washed up ex-whores in family mode is to fill the fridge and mega-tv-couch arrangement.
mircea_popescu: and on it... they watch dumbass 2nd hand us sitcoms and mexican tv productions.
punkman: on the hdmi/hdcp side: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/warner-bros-sues-hd-fury-over-boxes-that-can-copy-4k-video/
mircea_popescu: that's the other thing you know, every other derp here that i ever visit has bought a huge tv, oft times at a cost that compares to that of his car.
punkman: jus the things I watch
mircea_popescu: seriously, if you can't paint a canvas within 10x10, or if you can't tell your story in 700mb, you've got other problems than painting or making movies.
punkman: no reason you should care. but people that buy these disks cared about anydvd.
punkman: sure, I don't watch dvds or blu-rays. but you were asking who would buy these things
mircea_popescu: i've never bought any of the non-computing computer crap since the fucking 90s. which includes no fucking playstation, no "analog video camera" no bs.
asciilifeform: and, as i said, capture the frames.
asciilifeform: don't buy the boobytrapped player
mircea_popescu: (prolly not worth caring to, afaik the only utility of "NN"/"AI" image recognition to date is to recognize films)
mircea_popescu: lulzy bullshit a la cinavia is trivially defeated if you care to, irrespective of how the material was obtained.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 12:54:31; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415174. << cracking the disk crypto is 'plugging the wrong end of the funnel'. the hdmi copyprptection key leaked eons ago, just pick the frames up on the other end of the tv cable, emitted by an official player!
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415217 this is a poor approximation of decrypting the disk. doesn't it mean capture time equals video length? what about alt audio tracks, subtitles, etc? Perhaps inconsequential, but things like Cinavia would persist in captured video.
mircea_popescu: (this, for any deeply insecure personalities that may be reading the logs, does neither say that big is good thus therefore bigger is necessarily better, nor does it propose that there can't be a "big enough". so simmer down.)
mircea_popescu: ima try to identify the mammaries and pick the species with the largest ones as a candidate for intelligence.
mircea_popescu: but the fact remains that if i am examining the photo data from foreign planet with life on it,
mircea_popescu: (and yes - it's not "the ability to communicate", as early darwinists thought, out of their inclination towards pious frauds to favour socialism, that distinguishes us from animals. nor is it "an ability to make and use tools", as the 50s folk retreated to in desperation. no, none of that - just this, that our females have tits so deeply disproportionate to their bodies it is unseen in nature. CIVILISATION!)
mircea_popescu: it's not too hard to discover that small tits and annoying, nagging, deeply insecure personality correlate quite well in practice, and so the historical male preference for big tits that actually drove the monstrous mamomegalia that principally distinguishes us from monkeys could well be rather explainable.
asciilifeform: 'how ~little~ sand in the developmental gears'
asciilifeform: pretty sure we had the thread
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 12:46:13; mircea_popescu: the temptation to presume this somehow invalidates the curriculum and teachers' approach however is not necessarily warranted. it may be that women with better tits are simply better women overall, which includes both an ability and an interest in learning.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415216 << 'big-G' (or 'generalized fitness factor') hypothesis
mircea_popescu: nevertheless fun.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415174. << cracking the disk crypto is 'plugging the wrong end of the funnel'. the hdmi copyprptection key leaked eons ago, just pick the frames up on the other end of the tv cable, emitted by an official player!
mircea_popescu: the temptation to presume this somehow invalidates the curriculum and teachers' approach however is not necessarily warranted. it may be that women with better tits are simply better women overall, which includes both an ability and an interest in learning.
mircea_popescu: and we know for a fact that the tits ~were~ a major factor in the academic performance of these girls, because the better boobs (with maybe one exception) agglomerate at the front and between the teachers.
mircea_popescu: i call this the mp rule of tit thirds.
mircea_popescu: note however the incidence of decent boobs in the population. out of 8 visible, 3 or 4 are miserable, 3 or 4 are acceptable, 2 or 3 pretty good actually.
shinohai: "The mircea_popescu school for third-world sluts"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415190 << you know, back when bali was actually a thing, and actually worth going to. as opposed to "yet another ustard strip mall", which... seriously who the fuck wants to go tourist in those ? and if they wanted to, why not just go to disneyworld and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> punkman: Also they stole hanbot's pirateat40 joke for their exchange name << 24`733 people around the world tried to run off with shit and it still didn't work for them.
mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo upping all the sluts
ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
ben_vulpes: > 24,733 people around the world have filed bankruptcy claims related to the MtGox exchange
punkman: maybe S.NSA should sell AlfDVD sometime in the future ;)
punkman: no open-source alternatives, and from a quick search, seems like no proprietary alternatives either, unless you only need a subset of the functionality.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:34:48; asciilifeform: who the everloving fuck ~buys~ dvdrip proggy?!
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415142 << there is no open-source equivalent. last time I checked.
mircea_popescu: and in even more other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/173588322d445d2b59ce0572a36c6298/tumblr_nhqf0lTVs81sfkfqio1_500.gif
asciilifeform: otherwise would appear on no map.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, never been there.
asciilifeform: wtf even happens in antigua other than spamcorp registration..?
mircea_popescu: more\s the case - the endless list of us derpage gives us a list of concrete violations to take to those who facilitate the activities of the international crime syndicate. we can say to these people : the us is a rogue state. you further their conspiracies at your personal risk.
asciilifeform went deep behind the lines yesterday
mircea_popescu: [The Antiguan legal victory] gives us a concrete decision to take to others who facilitate SlySoft and their business. We can say to those who do business with them: This is an illegal activity, AACSs lawyer added.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 03:06:29; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe this is the slowly stress you into an inclanation towards insanity phase of your DeHarting?
asciilifeform: who the everloving fuck ~buys~ dvdrip proggy?!
BingoBoingo: DVD/bluDVD copy thing drew a bunch of USG aggro. Derpy thorn in copyrasta's sides but still a thorn. One of the longest running "legit" ones.
mircea_popescu: might be one of the closest bets in bitbet history
mircea_popescu: in other news, french chief poof is visiting buenos aires
asciilifeform: seems like the Right Thing.
mircea_popescu: aite then
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe this is the slowly stress you into an inclanation towards insanity phase of your DeHarting?
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
asciilifeform: !up thestringpuller
BingoBoingo: Maybe this is the Google AlphaBitBetBot
asciilifeform: 'Like other armies the Germans emplaced booby traps to catch unwary souvenir-hunters, but they also used them to cause casualties among Allied small-unit leaders by locating them in possible command post and observation post sites. One example of this was to conceal a booby trap behind a framed picture left hanging crooked on an interior wall of a house: the Germans reasoned that only an officer would be irritated enough to bo
asciilifeform: 'US troops often demonstrated poor litter discipline, discarding all manner of trash, damaged gear and clothing, expended batteries, and more. Much of this was of use to the VC, and they would collect such materials after a unit moved on.'
mod6: trinque: hey, when you get a chance, can you deed bot this for me? http://www.mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh for me with the same name?
asciilifeform: in other noose,
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 08:51:15; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $
asciilifeform: http://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2015/12/09/620202-finlyandiya-550-evro << finland 'plans to pay all adult citizens 550 eu. independently of all other income; the sum will not be taxed. in return, the finns will have to disclaim all other government benefits, which add up, on average, to 600 eu., but no greater than 1500' (????) 'the government will ... consider this idea in nov. 2016 ... ... right now, it is unprofi
asciilifeform: 'ah the delicate je ne se quoi pizda ma-tii of a French newspaper' << ahahahaha
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415044 << over here, they run, e.g., university campus heat, off the exhaust of (natural gas) electric turbine.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 00:29:59; mircea_popescu: the idea being that i announced a contest, haven't seen much in the way of submissions, ima award the 10 btc prize to alf for an implementation of a c-s derivative.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415029 << i am actually very ambivalent about recommending an integer field arithm cipher for use as block cipher on a conventional pc. for one thing, we will have transfer rates measured in kb/sec (if we're lucky.) for another, extreme side channel danger, because we're branching-on-secrets. for a third, entropy starvation.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Throw_it_all_away_99 comments on Redditors who are now married because you didn't know how to break up with your significant other, how is that going for you? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qfv61C )
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the botero museum in bogota is mega-recommended if you're ever out exploring the rest of your continent :)
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Obese Argentine Manatee and other tales of bloody vaginal discharge. - http://trilema.com/2016/the-obese-argentine-manatee-and-other-tales-of-bloody-vaginal-discharge/
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 23:40:41; BingoBoingo: Most of the ads I've seen bundle water/sewer into the condo fee, but may be a regional quirk
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1415005 << probably limited time offer. land developers are in a nasty habit of this atm. i've even seen "we guarantee that you'll be able to rent out your new suite for $1500 per month for the first 2 years. buy now!" in an attempt to sucker in would-be first-time landlords
BingoBoingo: appologies for spurious IP address, was in the spam filter feed tube
pete_dushenski: only turn on fireplaces at -20c. otherwise, no need.
pete_dushenski: aha. parents' penthouse has no heating, just waste heat from 19 stories underneath. this is 'innovative' in the usual soviet sense i guess.
mircea_popescu: these wars raged for decade+
mircea_popescu: so people weren't too keen to pay the city when there were cheap gas based wall units they could install instead.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski gotta appreciate, most of these soviet arrangements were built atop "free" waste heat from the heavy industrial plants the dormitory- cities were made to feed anyway.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414933 << can turn of heat to unit via thermostat, but if pipes freeze (in arctic at least), owner liable for damage to other units from flooding if pipes burst
mod6: Perhaps this: Implement with Cramer-Shoup, and if the implementation is finalized before any worthy submissions come to us, then end the contest and pay the btc to alf?
mod6: I'm kinda torn, I want us to move forward with 'g', so Cramer-Shoup fits the bill for sure. On the other hand, I'd like to think that over a long interval we might see some interesting submissions eventually.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to not do this too rushedly, but also to not delay pointlessly.
mircea_popescu: the idea being that i announced a contest, haven't seen much in the way of submissions, ima award the 10 btc prize to alf for an implementation of a c-s derivative.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ? << In relation to the contest? I'm good with Cramer-Shoup.
assbot: Access Agenda for All Libraries | Offices of the American Library Association ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qfs6Cs )
BingoBoingo: In other news, Obama's librarian of congress pick is pro hobo piss https://archive.is/3nF0j
mircea_popescu: "Again, according to the parties submissions, such a submission is made despite the understanding communicated by the Tor Project that the Tor network has vulnerabilities and that users might not remain anonymous." o oops, forgot to say "according to information first, and to date only published on trilema, [...]".
mircea_popescu: "In Forrester, the court clearly enunciated that: Internet users have no expectation of privacy in
the IP address of the websites they visit because they should know that this information is provided to and used by Internet service providers for the specific purpose of directing the routing of information." <<< except the ip of the "website they used" has exactly nothing to do with anything.
mircea_popescu: available materials regarding the Tor network."
mircea_popescu: relationship between SEI and DOD, as well as directing the defendant to publicly
mircea_popescu: governments disclosures included information regarding the funding and structure
BingoBoingo: Most of the ads I've seen bundle water/sewer into the condo fee, but may be a regional quirk
assbot: Anonimity, or the urban versus rural dispute. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LGCIoo )
asciilifeform: where was mircea_popescu's article on the countryside.
asciilifeform: no coast dweller, to first approximation, knows or gives so much as a spoonful of shit what happens in the places where one may meet with bulls.
asciilifeform: this was practiced until a proper ban was passed (iirc 1950s) and the trick deemed no longer necessary.
asciilifeform: usg theoretically demanded a tax stamp.
asciilifeform: similarly to how the allodial title is with usg, who won't let it go.
asciilifeform: the mineral rights are with the city, or the original developer of the street, who won't part with them even for maxint.
mircea_popescu: in the legal sense.
asciilifeform: so in what sense is the reconstruction available.
asciilifeform: yes, if you see it in the shop, and grab it first, it costs 0.10 rub.
mircea_popescu: hey, don't blame the hammer because idiots stick it up their ass. we already discussed the "inane collective rulesets" thing above.
mircea_popescu: and i would similarly not object to land offered in fee simple if the immunity were separately available to reconstruct alodial title
asciilifeform: not in the typical american residential sector.
mircea_popescu: ofcourse they are.
mircea_popescu: yes, but i can't acquire the title to that to heal my defect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are typically not available.
mircea_popescu: just because two items are separated to ease commerce does you no harm. buy them togetrher.
asciilifeform: the condo corp.'s claim to prevent my drilling of the walls at least makes some kind of physical sense
mircea_popescu: nothing keeps you from buying WITH the rights.
asciilifeform: but i will say, if mircea_popescu laughs at the condo title owner, who doesn't have right to demolish the walls or drill through the floor, how is this situation any different from the rancher who does not own the oil ?
mircea_popescu: over the dead bodies of ranchers
mircea_popescu: in the us peculiarly.
mircea_popescu: lots of these.
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mircea_popescu: except in the us - quite a lot of legal precedent re spite spikes
asciilifeform: (it is there but not yours to cut)
asciilifeform: e.g., there is a cable easement
asciilifeform: quite a few american titles are encumbered in one way or another
mircea_popescu: yeah but this is why sanew people do not own real estate in the ustardia.
jurov: here from law follows that you really own only air between the walls in a condo
mircea_popescu: and the problem doesn't end with egress. suppose i wanna take down a wall. "can't - building will collapse" "but my title ?" "fuck your title, our wall".
asciilifeform: he was the original, arguably greatest, joe stack
asciilifeform: so he built the bulldozer.
mircea_popescu: so then... lol.
asciilifeform: they typically have independent doors.
mircea_popescu: consequently, splits of property are required to include servitudes on the outer plots.
asciilifeform: in the sense of being bought/sold, centrally registered, etc.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does it work similarly.