ben_vulpes: "also wouldja re-zip-tie that vagrant that tried to get in last night, bob won't be by with the export wagon for another 2 days"
ben_vulpes: pashtun << not so much ethnic as "don't talk to cops. seriously, don't fucking talk to cops. furthermore, beat up anyone you see talking to cops."
mircea_popescu: sometimes i suspect i might be the most tolerant of women fellow that ever lived or something.
asciilifeform: this one is instant-hire at the circus, aha.
mircea_popescu: in other face news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/128df28123993d09d38ea880329c8639/tumblr_mjtpa58NGR1ro2gueo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: you specifically, motherfucker. not me. government doesn't hold the handles of the debate.
mircea_popescu: no, that's the beauty of it.
mircea_popescu: this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place.
mircea_popescu: check out the jews, made themselves a fucking kibbutz right in the middle of oregon.
mircea_popescu: but you can mentally think of it as part of the "piss and vinegar" doublet if the physiology bothers.
ben_vulpes: 'tisn't actually "alone at home" in this part of the world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform other people's piss.
mircea_popescu: single father single mother single child home ed is how they ended up needing freud.
ben_vulpes: "other people's progeny"?
mircea_popescu: this "home education" thing works for me, if and when i decide to knock up two dozen slaves and then produce a litter the size of an average obeast.
asciilifeform: someone actually has to get off his mathematical arse.
asciilifeform: it is not enough that the program - runs.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: think for a minute, about the peculiar nature of crypto.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: add it to the long list of shit that'll need multiple implementations just for testing
mircea_popescu: just because my eyes move independently of the head doesn't mean i'm not reading!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in case you slept through the thread, there are no public implementations in the ordinary sense, of whatever kind.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: to get briefly back to the cramer shoup thing, i am very much curious re: who is going to review it, and how
asciilifeform: l0l i can see him setting mines for nazi echelons near warsaw or the like.
ben_vulpes: cedar levi vulpes, in the grand vulpesian tradition of shit not making any sense whatsoever
ben_vulpes: is now crowing self-satisfiedly on the floor
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what did you name the boy anyway
ben_vulpes: in completely other news, the child just rolled over of his own accord for the first time
mircea_popescu: FUCKING SHIT ON A STICK ALF WHERE THE FUCK IS PHUCTOR ALREADY!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes atm i'm just trying to politely temper the fellow's enthusiasm and un-allergenically redirect more of his efforts towards practical if boresome matters.
mircea_popescu: would you like to put in another quarter ?
mircea_popescu: active "talking to the forum" gets people in trouble and passive reading produces the dumb half of every college class.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes these terms have meanings you distinguish how ?
mircea_popescu: the beauty of our arrangement being that we actually provide provably-correct, provably-complete solutions to problems that provably can not be formally formulated.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 18:35:59; ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
mircea_popescu: the prostitution rests.
mircea_popescu: buncha impressionable teenagers talk to danielpbarron, fail to see the humour.
mircea_popescu: now we know how all the "almost raped irl" cases happen irl.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron anyway i think what the cascadian is trying to say there is that it's fashionable these days to say something you know, hip and edgy. "nah, we could go pillaging and plundering! arrrr!" or whatever inane bs of the sort.
mircea_popescu: i guess... tho technically it'd be "made into a punk" otherwise it's kind-of ambiguous
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, pederasty is not something that can happen to you by accident. it means fucking young boys.
mircea_popescu: hard to say these days, kids have dynamited historical formalisms without understanding exactly how that'll come back to bite them
ben_vulpes: "sure" is probably the least enticing thing you could possibly say in that circumstance lol
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is an idle objeciton, the "no fucking" "just friends" of yore made exactly as little sense.
asciilifeform: let something be other than passive, and do something ~to~ you, and before long - you're in pederasty.
asciilifeform: don't get me wrong, i very much see the mircea_popescutronic perspective here.
asciilifeform: i probably would, and will, if These Things Go On (tm)
mircea_popescu: who are you to say YOU wouldn't fuck turnip, love it, and refuse to cease even when shown otherwise ?
mircea_popescu: loll all you want. there is no objective feminity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if there were a type of turnip-cum-cunt that could be fucked, right there in your garden's soil, would you ?
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mircea_popescu: but see, for 19 yo redditard, "being friends" doth not include or imply doing anything. on the contrary.
mircea_popescu: and you know, it's something i actually encountered in teh field ? slavegirl picks up random 19 yo, kinda mousy, manga fan with glasses living with parents sorta chick. they go out a coupla times over the course of i dunno - months ? eventually she cuts her off. turns out teenybopper was turning down ~9 out of 10 invites, never put out, her last email being something like "we'll i'd like to continue being friends". bit
asciilifeform: well once you come to think of simulacra as the real thing, yes, hallucination
mircea_popescu: and these friends is what used to be called hallucinations.
asciilifeform: the 'friends' are what used to be called 'penpal'
mircea_popescu: who knows these things.
mircea_popescu: have friends with all the benefits of never meeting them, and none of the drawbacks. have friends IN AFRICA!
mircea_popescu: basically, i'm starting to understand, socialism is, other than utter idiocy, an alt-way to be social!
mircea_popescu: not this one. this one is just the gauge.
mircea_popescu: if the requirement of "have a friend" is a bar to fertility, other things have to be fixed.
mircea_popescu: i want to use my buttcoins at EXACTLY 0 places of the wrong sort.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "rembrandt is not good because not so many of them"
kakobrekla: there arent that many of those.
mircea_popescu: no. the goal of trb is to be ran AMONG PEOPLE.
kakobrekla: idk whats the goal of trb to be ran among a dozen friends and thats it?
asciilifeform: the inevitable thing is that vtron users' expectations must re-adjust.
mircea_popescu: we're misusing the wot / pushing things, here.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416682 <<< everyone is supposed to get pubkeys from THEIR FRIENDS.
mircea_popescu: b) there is no "crud". it correctly indicates to use 99995.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look also in the log, i think it just got fixed 1/2 hr ago
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416641 << i just looked in the wiki.
asciilifeform: possibly because i don't do the update thing ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416637 << eh, every possible wwwtron that runs no www, somehow, even the www that runs on every actual wwtron, including all the ones that run very constrained sets of www!!1
hdbuck: i’ve just started over in a new directory using the new wiki, still not sorking :/
hdbuck: the command
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 17:16:12; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ?
asciilifeform: imho, at the very least he oughta be able to ask assbot and get the pubkey each of us is presently logged in with.
asciilifeform: but there are non-solution approximations of varying degrees of brokenness.
ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
asciilifeform: what, make the 6, 36 ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: while mod6's scripts pull them down from the net, i think this is actually a social problem.
hdbuck: @asciilifeform but is it the key that v is using on your box ? >> what do you mean?
asciilifeform: i did not say that this was a solvable problem, in the usual sense.
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al : possibly a neglected subject in the wiki, trb site, etc. is where the hell a n00b is supposed to get pubkeys.
asciilifeform: hdbuck: but is it the key that v is using on your box ?
asciilifeform: paste the public key you have for me.
hdbuck: also i just did it again now, with the link you provided me with, still not working
ben_vulpes: hdbuck use the linked v99995
asciilifeform: but the one practical observation is, PICK UP YOUR TRASH
ben_vulpes: <blink>HOW TO NODE</blink> on thebitcoin.foundation would be an improvement
ben_vulpes: that wiki'll be the death of poor mod6
ben_vulpes: anyways this i believe to be the current version: http://mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
asciilifeform: at any rate, WHAT THE FUCK was 'curl -s -o V-20151129.tar.gz' EVER supposed to do ??????
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 rather, 47
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2016 17:05:40; PeterL: so if people in the Assbot L1 are the peers, what do we call those of us in the Assbot L2?
asciilifeform: first things first, link to the build script you used
asciilifeform: and post the file hash here. (sha512)
asciilifeform: hdbuck: try verifying it by hand, and tell us what was the output
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: this doesn't tell us much. artifexd and dignork are still logged in, long after having set sail on the flying dutchman
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ?
hdbuck: pardon for my agnostic demands but as I’ve just followed Mr popescu’s guide to set up the realbitcoinfoundation node, i am unsure how it is working :/
asciilifeform: [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 1): DRAM ECC error detected on the NB
mircea_popescu: understand that the woman immortalized in, say, vegetanpizda, is stricto sensu human, whereas the etsy girl is not, nor could ever be,
asciilifeform: ever read 'the human zoo' ?
mircea_popescu: confronted with this problem, bovine stares bother me not at all.
mircea_popescu: now, that such misery would be selected for and bred into the population by the ineptitude of "state" and "government" is merely unfortunate.
mircea_popescu: and how do you know that the cods that you ACTUALLY cut with a knife in scandia sounds aren't DIFFERENT cods from all the other cods, and especially the cods you do not cut.
mircea_popescu: there's record in the history of the church of virgin in flock of virgins that gave herself to orcs so that the others may be kept, and they fucked her to bits, so she's now a strange sort of martyr.
mircea_popescu: and there's perfectly valid evolutionary reason the genes for this nonsense'd be present in the population.
asciilifeform: i often wonder why they never raise big cats
asciilifeform: the dream of being eaten...
mircea_popescu: but spiders don't care, having better things to do and much more talent with the thread and needle.
mircea_popescu: i suppose they'd raise spiders, if spiders ate human flesh.
mircea_popescu: the cats make reasonable exploiters.
asciilifeform: what triggers the cats?
mircea_popescu: and there... she attempts to protect what she perceives as valuable by virtue of inertia.
asciilifeform: and you forgot to list the cat-breeding.
mircea_popescu: and then you see her in the studio, dragged in by one of the usual preditors, "lesbian" women that hate women (especially in the sense of our "heroine"), ex-athlete stars who figure they've been shortchanged because school ends, you name it.
asciilifeform: no theorems.
mircea_popescu: and yes, they do, and all that happens is that they cry over their own dead bodies together.
asciilifeform: with the male equiv.
mircea_popescu: that in another woman in another place would have been offspring and family and work and power and everything human
mircea_popescu: so she makes some garbage out of some other garbage and attempts to imbue it with all her dismal powers of nothing
mircea_popescu: because you must! and there she picks up a lukewarm major and more or less finishes, and gets involved in some sort of verbiage or another, like journalismsocialmediavolunteeringtohelppeopleblablabla.
mircea_popescu: she proceeds to go to through school, because you must, where her chief accomplishment is not getting pregnant, because you mustn't! and after having failed at both knowledge and passion, she carries her decrepit carcass sucked mostly dry of juice by the vampire of her mother and the lich of her father + assorted family on to college
mircea_popescu: a girl of no particular talents or inclinations grows up in the house of white, upper lowerclass to higher middle class parents, decided to be a good girl and be good and nice and good!
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 15:42:04; mircea_popescu: the etsy woman is this very peculiar anglo chick.
mircea_popescu: heck, 80% of what i like about verhoeven is that he doesn't follow the inept convention of "ohmygerd gotta artistically snip the nips!!11"
mircea_popescu: i can't stand about 80% of everything hollywood ever made because of the boob cut.
mircea_popescu: maybe the explanation here is that having seen the thing from the threshold of the 4th wall, my head readily maps and/or discards your allergens.
asciilifeform: but actual mask doesn't trigger the same revulsion
mircea_popescu: you know, just because she isn't looking 2 inches under the apex of the camera lens (which is how that effect is obtained, and in all women, even the liveliest cockteases of the lot) but instead 30 degrees to the left in the foliage changes EXACTLY nothing
asciilifeform: i like theatre but won't lust to it
asciilifeform: and the bovine empty stare.
mircea_popescu: so you can't stand japanese, or for that matter classic, theatre.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the plastic face (partly literally, pound of cosmetic)
mircea_popescu: the etsy woman is this very peculiar anglo chick.
asciilifeform: the 'hambeasts' are deformed
mircea_popescu: you know the hambeasts being special on etsy are to no degree, in no manner and not at all any deeper, or more in possession of a soul than casting couch starlets and aspiring cocksuckers everywhere.
mircea_popescu: also, isn't this conversation breaking the cuntdel test ? :D
mircea_popescu waves from his boat, the unsurprise.
mircea_popescu: it's the exact opposite of cuntskirt.
mircea_popescu: punkman that the woman's face looks like it could belong to an inuit warrior, that her female bits are NOT front-and-center and that her posture is inadequate (in not being loudly submissive to a degree of almost parody)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: wtf is with this disobedient, herpy female bullshit. i'd take bangbros over the "artistic" pre-digital shit any fucking day and twice on sundays and bangbroxmas.
asciilifeform: they had... faces.
asciilifeform: punkman: aha! they still had actual chix in quantity, to photograph, vs today's plastic meatrobots.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 04:13:12; mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so i go to grande fiesta argentina club/teatro blabla bla. one girl in a corset, the other girl in a cuntskirt, nice stuff. i get there, it's a dingy fucking affair the likes you've never seen, and a bunch of retards in jeans and tshirts queued around the fucking corner waiting for the shithole to open.
mircea_popescu: on that same square, a mcdonalds on two fucking levels. larger than the supposed club. better light, better accomodation throughout. this brings them no fucking thoughts.
mircea_popescu: i end up spending 150 pesos on cabs and 50 pesos on coffee across the fucking square, because argentines are truly and utterly retarded. why make a grand off a fellow when you could just as well make nothing at all and go home to the tv ?
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so i go to grande fiesta argentina club/teatro blabla bla. one girl in a corset, the other girl in a cuntskirt, nice stuff. i get there, it's a dingy fucking affair the likes you've never seen, and a bunch of retards in jeans and tshirts queued around the fucking corner waiting for the shithole to open.
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kakobrekla: there we go
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform admire the craftiness of imbecility. derp was here asking about wanting to DO it a week or so ago, etc.
asciilifeform: MANDATE CANONICAL LIST of these.
asciilifeform: EVERY device driver routine, without exception, has some means for determining whether said device is physically present.
asciilifeform: because there is no fucking reason for it not to be sop.
asciilifeform: nor the magic development mode flags.
asciilifeform: nor the slowdown
asciilifeform: i don't need the granularity
asciilifeform: i have a similar, handmade instrument here, for years, and know other folks who also.
asciilifeform: the idea is, of course, ancient.
asciilifeform: you program it to emulate a usb widget that has exploitable driver in the victim's os.
asciilifeform: ^ commercial tool for exploiting the 'billion buggy device drivers' idiocy
asciilifeform: it is not difficult to do runtime coverage. every routine starts by setting a flag. ones who never set their flag, get listed as dead code.
asciilifeform: my point was that there is no actual practical reason why a kernel ought to contain so much as one instruction pertaining to devices that i don't have and will never have on my box.
trinque: to your point about "why is there no pruning tool for this thing"
asciilifeform: nah somebody accidentally tripped over a cosmic ray in the bath
trinque: and is perhaps (heh!?!!) not the only one
asciilifeform: stopped reading at 'The kernel needs to have been built with the Keyring service enabled'
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trinque: http://www.androidcentral.com/kernel-vulnerability-exposed-researchers << absolutely nothing surprises me about the smell of evil in the linux kernel
phf: or i guess a microkernel by design, rather then "we don't do microkernels, except now we basicall do"
asciilifeform: trinque: ever find it interesting that the kernel has no mechanism for telling you what code ~is actually used~ ?
trinque: I tend to boot with that, then produce a custom kernel config with localyesconfig once booted
phf: a useful framebuffer is backed by the card specific driver
asciilifeform: and a standard, immutable, guaranteed set of devices, which do not try anything 'clever' and cannot communicate with one another except in ways defined by os.
phf: i think there are basically 3 parts to custom stack: sane linux, stock tree, pkg system
asciilifeform: trinque: the conversation here is not about headless servers
asciilifeform: trinque: we still have nfi what happened to the gentoo mircea_popescu tried
asciilifeform: (they are few, and getting fewer, unsurprisingly)
asciilifeform: and i had to hunt for ~3 months to get a working example of the x60, also
asciilifeform: even supposedly well-documented and 'linuxbiosable' items like the x60 apparently come in undocumented variations that barf
asciilifeform: that is, there is nothing whatsoever that i can rely on other people having, hardware-wise, that can be guaranteed to work
phf: i'll have to lookup relevant materials, since it's not in logs, but there are some threads on debian (or maybe duvian or whatever it's called) mail, that explain how to setup a semi automated build of deb packages, and there's some equivalent of useflags that let you control the deb build. so can rebuild entire stack into own package repository, have a decrufted b-a apt source, that's not necessarily audited, but at the very least
asciilifeform: every time i come near the temptation to try to produce a 'tmsr linux' affair, i get my face rubbed into the fact that there is no hardware.
phf: did we do the whole debian as gentoo thing conversation?
asciilifeform: (by the 'libreboot' folks)
phf: "Trisquel [...] derived from another distribution, Ubuntu." ?
mircea_popescu: even lisp got bignum these days!
mircea_popescu: in otherwords, how did you say "ei se fac ca ne platesc, noi ne facem ca muncim" in russian ?
asciilifeform: much plantation, but conspicuously absent is the massa's house.
mircea_popescu: nobody belongs there anyway.
mircea_popescu: whether it's through path a or path b, purely decorative difference.
mircea_popescu: same government FOR THE SAME REASONS and in the same ways gives all these niggers the house.
mircea_popescu: but you're right, they won't. and you're right, ofcourse - printolade. which also happens to be EXACTLY what mr engineer is paind in, anyway. which is EXACTLY why he won't.
asciilifeform pictures mircea_popescu posting from inside the ring of world championship chessbox match
asciilifeform: the 2nd half is perhaps take on 'rambo'
mircea_popescu: in the happy song of yes massah all day long.
mircea_popescu: at which point mr engineer beats the shit out of the various derps thinking they're cool and rappers and whatnot, repossesses the black woman and reconstructs his grandfather's mansion
asciilifeform: and doubtless mircea_popescu knows that they aren't spending tax receipts, but printolade.
mircea_popescu: dude just cook and eat the poor already wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: idjits expect to spend tax receipts on giving free money to poor people ~enough so they can rent where rich people live~ ?!
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