ben_vulpes: they don't have the water necessary to make coffee you can taste
ben_vulpes: who wants brooklyn roasted beans
ben_vulpes: our coffee's just about the best one can buy in this town.
ben_vulpes: how would he know we exist?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's the difference between musl and glibc?
ben_vulpes: pipe did no wrong
ben_vulpes: how stan goes mad for the lispm and then refuses to treat the shell as a repl boggles my mind.
ben_vulpes: what i am going to do is type `compile_boost' at the cli, and it is going to behave the way i want it to.
ben_vulpes: i've no patience for commenting out chunks of build scripts to determine why for example boost has failed to compile
ben_vulpes: 'tis the only way to work with this pile of crud.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski dat perel
ben_vulpes: in particular, "“[I’m looking for] 5:1 (risk /reward). Five to one means I’m risking one dollar to make five. What five to one does is allow you to have a hit ratio of 20%. I can actually be a complete imbecile. I can be wrong 80% of the time, and I’m still not going to lose.”"
ben_vulpes: http://25iq.com/2015/07/25/a-dozen-things-ive-learned-from-paul-tudor-jones-about-investing-and-trading/ << we haven't done much investment philosophy since tat and the samovar readings...
ben_vulpes: http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/symbolics/genera/User_s_Guide_to_Symbolics_Concordia_Book_Design.pdf << trinque: let's go after indesign
ben_vulpes: "text messages" the same.
ben_vulpes: and the latter only weakly.
ben_vulpes: my gmail is known to be compromised, for instance. mails not signed by me or not in response to mails encrypted to my key cannot be said to be "from me".
ben_vulpes: trinque: anything i actually give a shit about can't be reset that way.
ben_vulpes: yeah, because bdb is failing to compile.
ben_vulpes: run it with -e and see why bdb fails to compile.
ben_vulpes: i dun mind the phones. voice travels in plaintext of necessity.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: ^^
ben_vulpes: !s wget -m
ben_vulpes: and cltl2
ben_vulpes: (i happen to enjoy the amount of study that writing cl takes)
ben_vulpes really off with dog now
ben_vulpes: heh like the "modern cl" thinger?
ben_vulpes: looks like braindamage, smells like braindamage, can't say as i care to dig further into it when there are food credits to scrape up elsewhere and the scraping to automate.
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: i suspect that they're not using emacs, but rather doing the "compile, run" thing.
ben_vulpes: (as:with-event-loop (as:await (sleep 3))) will indeed block.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well the cranks that turn the cranks need to be written, and then the machine that turns the meta-cranks built.
ben_vulpes: the "async" cl webserver the nodebros are banging on about blocks the repl when instantiated in a cl-async 'event loop', unlike how hunchentoot starts a server and then returns on threaded sbcl.
ben_vulpes: simply smells of node to me.
ben_vulpes: "cl-async"
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: did you see the libuv folks are colonizing cl?
ben_vulpes: cranks need turning, no avoiding that.
ben_vulpes: it's the 'work' part you really object to, let's be honest here.
ben_vulpes: good way to minimize single points of failure.
ben_vulpes: that said, give me six hours and i can figure out whatever's in flight and load it into someone else's head.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: i'd probably bite it off myself, simply because there isn't much by way of CL horsepower around the shop.
ben_vulpes: who are they to trust but him?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: wot
ben_vulpes: "call this guy who knows thing about my codebase but probably can handle it"
ben_vulpes: or the bezzlequivalent. i ain't picky - food credits is food credits.
ben_vulpes: so long as they cough up ~.6 btc/hr, sure.
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: trinque: "but single host isn't web-scale!"
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213404
ben_vulpes off romping puppy
ben_vulpes: solrodar, asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/callgraph/ << the sexprs generate, the scripts run, the svg is nominally an svg (eg has piles of xml i don't care to sift through) but doesn't render anything through any tools I have on hand.
ben_vulpes: p-plz no trigger
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213115 << mircea_popescu: solrodar got my message, knows where i am in derping along to testing his work.
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/scan-build/ << not much of interest, but i thought that i'd share clang's opinion with derp anzers
ben_vulpes: lo, it is mutilated in my outbox
ben_vulpes: rentiers are extracting all of the "productivity" gains.
ben_vulpes: re previous thread: "profits of 1% on revenues of 1 billion! we're rich!"
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/orthecreedence/cl-async << this reeks of "let's bring js to cl"
ben_vulpes: you're not a pete_dushenski or a hanbot, why would you
ben_vulpes: you're probably the only person besides me to ever run it
ben_vulpes: ignorance, really.
ben_vulpes had not yet pissed on this fence
ben_vulpes: yick.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov ^^
ben_vulpes: jurov: is the thing really running on windows?
ben_vulpes: msdos line endings in gpg or in the mailing list mutilator?
ben_vulpes: methinks jurov's turdolator is mutilating.
ben_vulpes: script is, however
ben_vulpes: can confirm the sig is not what i broadcast.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/badsig.tar.gz.asc
ben_vulpes: yessir
ben_vulpes: you want the original script or sig file?
ben_vulpes: "worrisome" indeed.
ben_vulpes: http://mempool.info/ << not really up to date now are you
ben_vulpes: "boto" in particular is rife with this.
ben_vulpes: bezzleputing.
ben_vulpes: heh.
ben_vulpes: https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/changeset/84950 << 'boost' 'svn' cert look bad to anyone else?
ben_vulpes: hm, sorry. i'm asking the wrong question. was there ever a "reward restart" bug discovered, where the reward effectively started over after the final subsidized block?
ben_vulpes: related to above, when and how was the reward halving bug discovered?
ben_vulpes: apropos of nothing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823.msg9530#msg9530
ben_vulpes: shinohai: am now, what's up?
ben_vulpes: in other news, it's raining for the first time in...weeks? months? in portland.
ben_vulpes: girl says "watch the tests come back and the nurses struggle to say 'you're a weenie, pregnancy hurts, there's nothing wrong with you go home' politely"
ben_vulpes: taking care of the girl. kidney/bladder mystery.
ben_vulpes: today we irc from the maternal care clinic!
ben_vulpes: buenos dias
ben_vulpes: never thought id see the day
ben_vulpes: WHOA
ben_vulpes: cosmic rays!
ben_vulpes: y'know trinque its probably cawsmic race
ben_vulpes: oh don't be coy
ben_vulpes: in the way that mircea_popescu has a thing
ben_vulpes: you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing
ben_vulpes: http://www.qnergy.com/qb-stirling-engines << mega-stirling
ben_vulpes: ain't much diesel left.
ben_vulpes: could just as easily be stirling.
ben_vulpes: anyways, point of junglengine is to burn whatever's around and produce rotation. i've always planned this to be a 'tesla turbine' hooked to washing machine motor for ease of fabrication.
ben_vulpes: low-efficiency vehicles that burned * and pushed gas through pistons?
ben_vulpes: ah hm wrong reference.
ben_vulpes: gasenwagen though.
ben_vulpes practicing hitting far right keys w/pinky
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> you buildion train orcar lol << notrly that bad of an idea. external combustion engine has its upsides, among them workable in 'jungle conditions;'
ben_vulpes: don't like, don't use.
ben_vulpes: i wrote the kalash because it addresses needs of mine: being able to run arbitrary bits of the whole process
ben_vulpes: all of these "do this and then do that and then do the other thing" shell scripts that a) don't bail on error and b) aren't easily twiddled drive me up a wall.
ben_vulpes: anyways, i'd written mine earlier.
ben_vulpes: i said something was wrong with it?
ben_vulpes: and gradations between pogo and "to ml"
ben_vulpes: there is working on the thing and distributing the thing
ben_vulpes: auto.sh has never worked well for me.
ben_vulpes: i now have a kalash that i can point at most linuxes, fire, and produce a static build
ben_vulpes: hanbot: i wrote it entirely fed up with doing this dance every. single. time.
ben_vulpes: hf
ben_vulpes: gl
ben_vulpes: hanbot: i put my little kalash together to address some of the pain you're experiencing
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski congrats, frere
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000130.html << panzers: snipped some assperimental macos turds
ben_vulpes: i'm down to a single finger and i intend to kepe it
ben_vulpes: defensive bash programming
ben_vulpes: only sane way to manage implicit state of shell imho
ben_vulpes: "patches welcome"
ben_vulpes: hanbot, mod6, asciilifeform, nubbins`, and panzers at large: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000129.html
ben_vulpes: that's next on my list
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo has
ben_vulpes: "blocks" : 366328,
ben_vulpes: in other news, my stator has caught up with the net at large
ben_vulpes: v expensive 3d solution
ben_vulpes: trains going by
ben_vulpes: coviariance analysis with shop humidity at the time
ben_vulpes: or perhaps we want to track quality ratings for *every widget produced*
ben_vulpes: or was it assbot...
ben_vulpes: wow i just remembered that gribble integration you wrote
ben_vulpes: thanks phf
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, phf, Adlai, gabriel_laddel: still curious about deploying CL code to running instances
ben_vulpes looks at postmodern again
ben_vulpes: there's a difference between chewing and a tool that abstracts a thing that needs doing
ben_vulpes: zing
ben_vulpes: what about deploying code to servers? just slime-connect to the remote host over an ssh tunnel and then compile the new codebase in?
ben_vulpes: again
ben_vulpes empties his cup
ben_vulpes: Adlai: once told me that the 'log reading' period for CL was well in excess of that for #b-a
ben_vulpes: i am going to spend 2 years just reading CL tooling documentation before putting anything into production at this rate.
ben_vulpes: you're telling me that i should what...just write code?
ben_vulpes: what about sharing data structures across many instances?
ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes: really? i'm supposed to eat this? that lisp isntances don't crash?
ben_vulpes: this is such a bold claim!
ben_vulpes: hey man i'm a really bad programmer
ben_vulpes: or lisp instance crashign either, though right?
ben_vulpes: slad doesn't really address the power toggle thing
ben_vulpes: i'm writing raw sql in my cl going forward
ben_vulpes: okay well trinque gabriel_laddel i give up on this lisp persistence thing
ben_vulpes: i feel like herr popescu with apache and his caching layer
ben_vulpes: why can't i have software that works.
ben_vulpes: DUDE
ben_vulpes: even on macos?
ben_vulpes: hyuuuuuuu
ben_vulpes: "No manual entry for mremap"
ben_vulpes: watch this be an os x problem
ben_vulpes: Symbol "MREMAP" not found in the OSICAT-POSIX package.
ben_vulpes: no sir it does not appear to
ben_vulpes: http://ccl.clozure.com/irc-logs/lisp/2010-10/lisp-2010.10.29.txt << grep for MREMAP
ben_vulpes: this is why i don't talk to programmers i don't know about programming.
ben_vulpes has maybe touched the penile bit
ben_vulpes: you assholes are winding me up deliberately.
ben_vulpes: a document store
ben_vulpes: is
ben_vulpes: dafuq
ben_vulpes: some engineer somewhere in some corp decides to play with it for a week, people who wrote dumbthing get email of concern from said engineer, decide to advertise as "running bigcorp"
ben_vulpes: this is always a lie
ben_vulpes: dude runs whatever
ben_vulpes: client blew their budget on ie8 css compatibility in a half-assed single page js app
ben_vulpes: was at one time
ben_vulpes: plz no bully
ben_vulpes: that's triggering decimation
ben_vulpes twitches
ben_vulpes: manardb
ben_vulpes: whoa
ben_vulpes: can buy his own damn modem
ben_vulpes: fuck him
ben_vulpes: he just got a job writing common lisp
ben_vulpes: the covers are also gorgeous.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i may yet end up with a set because of this reason.
ben_vulpes: such as i have not seen in my career to date.
ben_vulpes: trinque: go, read. a marvel of technical writing.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: only need one - for the woman
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re statice, what parts wouldn't make sense? the thing is explained in painstaking detail.
ben_vulpes: i am however considering a conversion
ben_vulpes: they were not id'd either
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: attended with family who are cult members
ben_vulpes: trinque: have you started reading the statice manual?
ben_vulpes: <trinque> asciilifeform: got elephant working with postgresql, wasn't too bad << share!
ben_vulpes: http://cnsnews.com/blog/melanie-hunter/pregnant-wnba-star-asks-20k-month-spousal-support-her-wife << ahahaha child support hits the gays
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "can" lol
ben_vulpes: sync and serve mechanisms are vastly more important.
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: PeterL: you missed the thread where alf pointed out that 'mempool' is not a part of bitcoin.
ben_vulpes: plentiful*
ben_vulpes: one of the nicer things about hawaii is the plentify ahi
ben_vulpes: and i snorkeling!
ben_vulpes: (anyways, if anyone cares to poke holes in my proposed ghetto wot httpauthentication mechanism, plz do)
ben_vulpes: i think everyone can smell your perma-lsd-trip.
ben_vulpes: did not get ID'd
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: attended another costco today
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that vacuum-packed babe was p lulzy
ben_vulpes: 'pet' has read knr
ben_vulpes: aha yes actually this makes sense
ben_vulpes: trinque: i think he actually has employees
ben_vulpes: he of many hands
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell artifexd yo!
ben_vulpes: trinque: don't bite off gossipd man
ben_vulpes: ad hoc bug ridden implementation of half of smtp
ben_vulpes: b-a mailservers when
ben_vulpes: Fe shrapnel
ben_vulpes: (for one)
ben_vulpes: cloud of water
ben_vulpes: there are a million ways to pull debris out of orbit.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i will build the garbage scows.
ben_vulpes: but more precisely a 'transformation' thing.
ben_vulpes: because text is not simply an 'input' problem.
ben_vulpes: the touchscreen however is an unredeemable text input device.
ben_vulpes: it, unlike Mail™, sort of works.
ben_vulpes: i use the gmail application.
ben_vulpes: i know ios mail is bad.
ben_vulpes: ^^ mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: my read at the time was "google is raping apple's mail experience"
ben_vulpes: heh yeah that's right
ben_vulpes: my b
ben_vulpes: oh hey it was google
ben_vulpes: because while they can mandate webkit as browser they cannot
ben_vulpes: no, apple purchased the only decent mail application for ios to preserve their mailnopoly
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: let us not forget "Inbox" or w/e
ben_vulpes: oh get real asciilifeform google facebook and amazon were all chasing my dumb ass at one point and i never had good grades and definitely never finished kawledge
ben_vulpes: or broadcasting credentials in the clear ala http-basic auth
ben_vulpes: mwell point is to gate access to an api without relying on tls
ben_vulpes: vulnerable to a bit of replay
ben_vulpes: (signed by a customer or allowed user or someone the service provider likes)
ben_vulpes: i thought up an http-auth thing recently: http request headers containing a signed hash of one of the last 2 blocks
ben_vulpes: ;;seen artifexd
ben_vulpes: i suppose that i'm pretty dumb for just downloading the source and expecting that i'll be able to compile it, huh?
ben_vulpes: decimation: do you use macports regularly?
ben_vulpes: <decimation> boost compiles fine with macports << i'm a homebrew dood. perhaps this is wrong?
ben_vulpes off again
ben_vulpes: OH WELL
ben_vulpes: i am clearly not elite enough to set my own priorities, otherwise i'd be down on the beach with a margarita and my laptop
ben_vulpes: snorkels and family call
ben_vulpes: but you know