ben_vulpes: and as mircea_popescu has pointed out, courts' mandate descends from the king but may not bind him
trinque: ben_vulpes │ ... and recognizing the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything << what foot soldier was this? All I saw was a Ricky from Trailer Park Boys impersonation shouting words he heard on terribly written TV about biznis
BingoBoingo: Going back to the Easter Sunday thread, Reddit tries home improvement https://archive.is/86cpZ
phf: diana_coman: right, thread was for myself rather then others, and i found what i was looking for. i just couldn't keep dodging snark and "shit in soup" every other sentence, so had to make that detour
diana_coman: ah, no, I meant more of the rate-me-rate-you variety really
diana_coman: and moreover I have to say that a bit earlier in b-a I had this uneasy feeling that people were patting one another on the back, maybe it was just me
ben_vulpes: "but if the cost of having continuity is to be shackled to dem000cracy (tm alf), i'll happily shed the continuity to be rid of the cows"?
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: "change is the only constant!" (d,tmr~). i've no desire for communiteh and happiness and being in a room where everyone gets along. but the logs were valuable in their own right, for as long as they had that continuity.
diana_coman: fwiw continuity has never been, in my experience of anything, of the "as things were" variety
ben_vulpes: but hey, we move the camp, dig more latrines.
ben_vulpes: i am fully torn between the poles of wanting to understand why mircea_popescu burned the coins to make the point, desperately wanting continuity with the logs-as-they-were, and recognizing the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything
diana_coman: aha, thanks for the clarification phf ; I did follow the whole thread but I can't say I actually caught this intent of yours as such
phf: diana_coman: just to clarify, the framing was deliberate and part of a larger thread. when i started conversation kakobrekla and nubbins were both trigger happy and aggressive, the purpose of the entire thread was to figure out where they stand by softening their disposition. talking in terms of competency (worded as a hypothetical accusation to be weighted by a hypothetical court) has proven effective in the past in clarifying kakobrekla's thinki
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] When the Messenger Shoots Back - http://www.dianacoman.com/2016/03/28/when-the-messenger-shoots-back/
mircea_popescu: but if you approach the matter fundamentally, it quickly balloons.
mircea_popescu: phf> asciilifeform: how's conversation links going to work? << this is actually a rather complex problem. i suspect they well might not work at all.
mircea_popescu: aaand i tire of the derpage heh.
mircea_popescu: zhoutong is one of the people involved in the bitcoinica scam ; he was supposed to be some azn child genius.
mircea_popescu: chaangnoi aka goat aka 1k other things is some derpy wanna-be living in thailand and for a while doing whatever dubious coolie business in and around glbse. mostly pirate-related scammerships.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin_charlie is actually recently famous for the whole "this is what they don't tell you" thing.
mircea_popescu: gavinandersen is the "experts agree" derp from last year.
mircea_popescu: dproberts i imagine is to be the derpy guy with a "drugs market" that couldn't sell a bag of coke ; also ordered some "murders for highre".
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the curious minds among the new folks, let's run through that list. jared kenna for a while ran the 2nd largest btc/usd exchange. ran off with the piggy, started a real estate development with it, had the unmitigated audacity to try coming back into bitcoin, because hey, "community" is worth a bowl of soup a head.
pete_dushenski: inb4 all the 'joke' characters from last april fool's ~actually~ populate b-a. obligatory : http://trilema.com/2015/ok-ok-you-had-me-d/
asciilifeform: phf: aha, mine also. so far the data is discouraging - who the fuck, for example, is aegis ?
phf: asciilifeform: that was the point of my inquiry
asciilifeform: now i could be wrong, perhaps it ~won't~ become a magnet for the vermin that were previously shot on sight
pete_dushenski: aha. lord of the flies
asciilifeform: sorta like the old fantasy of every hooligan kid, 'what if teacher went away'
pete_dushenski: it's been a educational day in more sense than one then
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i for one had nfi there ~was~ a 'bench'
phf: kind of like a fellah who heard girl he fancies broke up, "hey, how's it going! yeah, i've just been in the neighborhood, oh you broke up? too bad.... so is there anyone on the horizon???"
pete_dushenski: more than a few of the starting line-up vacated the premises, giving the benchwarmers a fresh shot
asciilifeform: srsly what's that fella doin' there.
mircea_popescu: phf> generative vines that grow based on how much space there is << word.
phf: generative vines that grow based on how much space there is
phf: there are flags that it takes that disables the behavior, and yeah "large chunks of space" is annoying and log would've been better if i wanted to go and fix it
phf: well, it makes more sense when conversation is very dense the way it usually is
asciilifeform: i'd at least make the white intervals logarithmic
asciilifeform: not their fault!1111
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: their language br0k3 ~400y ago
phf: the reader is idiosyncratic, so i'll have to make it more palatable for general consumption
mircea_popescu: why is teenage daughter calling her father "you" ? how is this proper ?
phf: trinque: yes! that would be handy. i just audited that postgresql common lisp driver (not the popular one, but the pure network pg one)
mircea_popescu: but for the other thing, and more important i guess : it's strictly impossible by now to distinguish teenager daughter from wife in a film. not only because the fucking actresses represented as sexually powerful are so fucking neotenuous it's uncanny ; but also because of the retarded habit of giving women the same age all the fucking roles. they're all "29" ; and finally because fucking hell family relations in anglosphere...
mircea_popescu: did not. ima put it on list then.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, the enviroderps don't even realise just how tediously insufferable their propaganda is, i suspect. fucking jehova witnesses already.
mircea_popescu: so i tried to watch "the ballad of jack and rose".
asciilifeform: trinque: will it search the old logz ?
trinque: phf: if you've got a log viewer nearly complete, do you want a postgresql db connection from me for it? I'll be collecting logs with the new deedbot.
shinohai: You aren't pete_dushenski. It's witch-hunt city over there and I want no part of it.
pete_dushenski: i will say that it's on the quiet side in #trilema atm, but after glancing at the #b-a logs for 15 seconds, the noise gave me such a headache that i quickly forgave the selective speech and appreciated the tranquility here. i doubt i'm alone in this either.
mircea_popescu: the only concerning item is that the english nonsense of "hurt feelings" seems to become fashionable in chinese discourse.
asciilifeform: taiwan is a dr.mengele creation of usg, just as, e.g., israel, and i can't fathom how it could outlast the creator
mircea_popescu: some nonsense or other about how fish swim in water.
mircea_popescu: slighter, smaller government ; which necessarily means more of him and less of the "institutions" ; should be palatable, or at least easier to defend.
mircea_popescu: in line with what appears to be the xi policy. he's gutted the bureaucracy, which obviously pissed off all the wanna-be 14%, as what he aims is very much in line with the mp definition of government ("may exist for as long as i don't see it")
asciilifeform: he said 'nah nobody wants the fight"
asciilifeform: i used to work with a fella from there
gribble: Chou Tzu-yu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chou_Tzu-yu>; Singer's Apology for Waving Taiwan Flag Stirs Backlash of Its Own ...: <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/asia/taiwan-china-singer-chou-tzu-yu.html>; Chou Tzuyu apology: Taiwanese K-pop singer forced to apologize ...: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCEVCirtt20>
mircea_popescu: in other news, kuomintang lost taiwan o.O
mircea_popescu: everyone's survival under the scheme seems entirely likely.
mircea_popescu: anyway, afaik i'm one of the very few if not the only irc user that actually only uses one channel - and even i use two these days, this and #eulora
mircea_popescu: hopefully facebook isn't actually next, woe unto me i'll be assaulted by the internet's entire firehose.
PeterL: but it seems you are confused by conversation radomly popping into your chan from the other chan
PeterL: well, in #b-a not long ago I said somebody was going to reply in the wrong chan, confuse everybody, couple hours later asciilifeform does
asciilifeform splits terminal to avoid further lulz
asciilifeform: fwiw i believe that he did the things he said he did.
asciilifeform: PeterL: according to mircea_popescu, his machine polled a net of thousands of nodez, none of whom claimed to have heard of tx-a, before he transmitted the final tx of doom
PeterL: I have not yet been convinced there is a need to leave it
PeterL: well, seems to be more people talking there
pete_dushenski: is mike_c going to be switching btcalpha over to deedbot- then ? or a new wotsite needed as well ? /me is a big fan of btcalpha...
pete_dushenski: will deedbot- be the new ratings/wot bot as well ?
trinque: if they're RSS can jam in the old deedbot- for now; if not I'll have to write something for the new one.
PeterL: is there a plan to have an assbot style ticker in this chan as well?
pete_dushenski: http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/03/turns-out-blonde-ladies-are-the-smartest.html << from same rag, the reason why blondes have more fun : iq! (nice ex post facto mapping)
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: http://www.contravex.com/2016/03/27/the-underpriced-option/#comment-42428
pete_dushenski: i think it'd be sweet to have a repository for viewing the latter
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell shinohai how comes the node tracker site ?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller's?
mircea_popescu: actually studying knots is historically the start of topology
asciilifeform: (when was the last time somebody actually invented a usable knot...?)
mircea_popescu: "not yet applied", if one pushes the point.
mircea_popescu: strangely enough it's not badly applied till it blows the fuck up.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, re "communism good idea badly applied" - majority of germans agreed, after ww2. re their own form.)
phf: asciilifeform: "He was known for inventing the ULI knot, a method for priming explosives using detonating cord. The Uli knot resembles a hangman knot and is the most effective way of priming C4 explosives, especially when underwater."
BingoBoingo: dayum alf beat me to the link
mircea_popescu: so how's the yellow revolution going ? is comrade xi yet ousted ?
mircea_popescu: actually - one man, one harem, one notebook china could do this. if you feed a dozen girls, their workouts will certainly power the book.
phf: it could make for a nice backup in a joey hess style household. guy lives off the grid, hacks by candlelight with his low power netbook, sometimes "i'll be out for the next few days, it's been gray out, so not enough juice in batteries", etc.
mircea_popescu: more than that even. i've personally climbed the stairwell going from valley of kings over the mountain into the queen's. took a few hours, but it's a good 150-200meters tall. that's a good 30-40 kwh
mircea_popescu: because of the thing. you know.
mircea_popescu: that they named it "fukushima tower"
asciilifeform: l0l that thing looks just like the 'stairmaster' gizmo they pumped medieval organs with
mircea_popescu: eh, derps take the time to explain why they named their thing whatever they named it, but i see no equations anywhere. pass.
mircea_popescu: i don't get the "we use no consumables" claim if it uses springs. what are the springs ?
BingoBoingo: In other news, finally a human powered generator that isn't all cardio http://www.gravpower.org/
mircea_popescu: and you trust these descriptions ?
asciilifeform: strictly in the sense of mercedes instead of barracks and caviar instead of long pig ?
asciilifeform: or the noose
mircea_popescu: even something as obvious as "settling the end date" will be interesting to reflect upon.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the curious student of political history, i'd gladly read a piece explaining the differences between the "denazification" as carried out by the allied control council from 1946 onwards ; and the various internal troubles of the eastern socialist party, whether you pick dekulakization, or de-trotskyfication, or great leap forward or w/e.
BingoBoingo: You know, make myself less dependent on "Big Weather" to get my meteorology
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To track the wind?
mircea_popescu: for the record, his friends in the senate thought not much better of say strabon than the above.
asciilifeform: he extracts rare microvitamins from the chitinous carcasses and sells for their weight in diamond.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I may need one of those weathervanes
mircea_popescu: you may think less of me for it, but it ALSO follow the internal reasonings of the etsy chick, and of all sorts of other subcultures.
mircea_popescu: and in somewhat other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/1677c1f772478154b1f53b0d90e148d3/tumblr_mom5a2IkFe1ra163eo2_250.gif
asciilifeform: nor does the outcome have any serious impact on reality.
PeterL: To me politics is much like sports, lots of people talk about it but their talking has no impact on the outcome
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have nfi. i hope somebody gets some use out of it, because ftr i don't, i find it == as interesting as the sports crud.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> urgh, i scroll between two chans, and one is full of american election and the other - ThickAsThieves << I think something about the details of the process contains electrolytes mircea_popescu needs to mix up his hatorade
asciilifeform: other kidz were too busy laughing.
asciilifeform: y'know, as a boy, i was playing with other boyz in the yard and mentioned съезд кпсс , and they laughed. i learned lesson - for life.
mircea_popescu: this is the wasp pretense. to my eyes a direct equivalent to nixon's delusioned in place "silent electorate". i don't think it ever held any water.
PeterL: there are several ways power can be lost, so party officials at least have to give the appearance of being reasonable to hold thier power
mircea_popescu: i don't recall the specifics there, but wasn't it the case that leader of gop house sold out to obama, and for cheap, the gop trioed to throw him out, and failed, guy came back even to ensure his chosen successor stays ?
PeterL: like how boenher was doing things to force his will on the House of Reps, and a small subset of republicans forced him out of power
mircea_popescu: even if they did have such incredible intellects, it'd still take time, and the public is a wage slave, which means that no, not the fucking public.
mircea_popescu: no fucking individual member of the public has even 1% of the intellectual werewithal to even consider the matter in the sense of putting all its disparate elements on the table ; let alone drive a sane conclusion from the mess.
PeterL: well, publick sees party making absurd choices to shoehorn in particular candidate, reform-minded individuals take over party or else they just lose general elections to other party
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-october-2014-statement-closing/#comment-109561 << there.
mircea_popescu: PeterL this assumption is known as the memory hole effect.
PeterL: yeah, the people making these rules can do whatever they want, but I assume there are some reasonable people mixed in with the crazies who would stop such things
mircea_popescu: phf no idea what opposition would be. lemme dig up the comment i guess.
asciilifeform: phf: the last thing i recall TaT doing is, mircea_popescu offered him a co-authorship on something or other, and TaT refused because afraid of gassing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno they were questionable, he said i dun recall what on trilema, i asked him quo warranto, he made himself scarce.
asciilifeform: lives, iirc, under the heel of his wife (i could be mistaken, but did get this impression from the 4-5 h we spent together)
asciilifeform: phf: i actually met TaT in meatspace, at mircea_popescu's c2. we sat in the airport together in the end. i got the impression that he was 'ok guy' but somewhat lacked... courage.
asciilifeform: urgh, i scroll between two chans, and one is full of american election and the other - ThickAsThieves
PeterL: and Americans like me who can't help ourselves eat this shit up and it earns them ad revenue from all the obnoxious ads on their websites
PeterL: basically it is just another reason for a bunch of reporters to write blathering articles about the drama of the republican nomination race
BingoBoingo: I don't keep track because of how many rules typically change just to smooth things out. See Thomson's "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail"
PeterL: they made a rule saying to get nominated you need a majority of delegates from 8 states
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but why ? an' wherefore ? << It's how conventions worked routinely before 1970. They got the delegates and then made the rules. Now they just change the rules afterwards.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well yeah, and what's the free booze, bud and everclear ? << Everyclear is expensive even when adjusted for alcohol content. The cheapest stuff goes by names like Crystal Palace, COuntry Club, and Gem Clear
PeterL: I don't see how the specific rules helped Trump
PeterL: in 2012 some Paul supporters thought they could co-opt the convention and push him through even though he lost the votes
mircea_popescu: "PaulFest in 2012: a week-long thing in Florida leading up to the Republican National Convention in which last-minute rule changes to keep Ron Paul out were hastily voted into place; rule changes which are today responsible for the Trump phenomenon" << plox to detail this for me ?
mircea_popescu: gotta get a log of this place up soon, wtf are all the stalkers gonna do.
mircea_popescu: you've not missed much. just me discovering that they do dry festivals now in puritanlandia
mircea_popescu: -4 one didn't work either. neways.
mircea_popescu: ftr if i click the pic i get a "page not found". is this intentional ?
mircea_popescu: so you're telling me no porcfest slut was ever champagne-bathed in the entire decade of this ?
mircea_popescu: well yeah, and what's the free booze, bud and everclear ?
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean frothwater/selzer ; i mean the genuine article)
mircea_popescu: there's only one wot, however it may be published.
PeterL: are you going to start a new WoT or import the one from assbot?
PeterL: are you going to use the same voicing model as #bitcoin-assets?
diana_coman: what's the logs address for this channel?
mircea_popescu: and so, this is the end for this particular irc channel as a venue for tmsr. the irc festivities are moving over to #trilema ; with a more selective lordship list and improved tools all around. you're welcome to join - but leave the fiat mind behind, lest it drag you too back down into the swamp.
mircea_popescu: vaguely defining the group in question, ad-hoc or after the fact, does not resolve the problem, one's still a poltroon. appeals to "science" or "law" or whatever other conveniently vague abstraction still doesn't resolve the fact that one's placed himself on the hostis humani generis side of the debate.
mircea_popescu: i can readily understand that fiatism has been for all and sundry the unique way of life, since "forever" ; i can see how the shit is well ensconced and difficult to wash off. nevertheless, loyalty to a group, as opposed to the individual, is still socialism, as much so as either GOP or NSDAP ever were. preserve that and you preserve it all.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no place in the future, or among civilised people, for this "hi i r zuckerberg and i ~created~ facebook" thing. i can see how it continues the "oh, mp is raining money, let me not get in his way" thing from before, but consistency in poltroonism does not enact poltroonism as an acceptable life philosophy.
mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i see no reason to continue supporting or otherwise encourage kakobrekla's bizarre worldview. on the contrary, i view further involvement with the nonsense as considerable moral hazard, and a miserable thing to do altogether.
deedbot-: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The underpriced option. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/03/27/the-underpriced-option/
asciilifeform: 'For open source code, you read the code, line by line, verify that it is in fact safe to run. You then issue a PGP-signed certificate which pretty much says "I the X of Y have reviewed the below code and judged it safe in accordance with Z".'
assbot: Probably the hottest business idea of the moment in BTC... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuIkIg )
asciilifeform reread golden oldie, http://trilema.com/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc
asciilifeform: notice the 'hitler-compliant!11' sticker on bottom right hand.
asciilifeform: was in the lobby of some random food thing.
asciilifeform: the very middle of it.
asciilifeform: falling petals, who can avoid the thought of the goban, the sword, seppuku, forgotten honour!11111
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you have sakuras over there ?
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/vqBBXFm.jpg << the one on my hdd. i still have not identified the species.
asciilifeform: fuckdamnit i can almost TASTE these parrots.
asciilifeform: '..twelve people between the ages of nine and sixty, including a coupla teenaged girlies, that stops in the door.' << we have these here !
mod6: asciilifeform: thx for the link swabby
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://cryptome.org/2016/03/matthew-keys-docs.htm << qntra ?
asciilifeform: ^ mega-recommended to everyone with the faintest inkling of an interest in subj. overview of nearly all key aspects.
BingoBoingo: jurov: Orange chainsaw chaps tend to be just as assless as leather motorcycle chaps.
BingoBoingo: hearing this I am disappointed more is not made of the innuendo possible from playing with the idea of big tools
jurov: lmao i saw even one proclaimed "a lumberjack" cuz of the axe
jurov: my brain just repeatedly rejected the notion of anyone using it that way
jurov: BingoBoingo: actually having rigid drill ready in the corner can be much more convenient and timesaving compared to affixing tiny bits to be drilled to chairs, even if not used often.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Maybe it is more common for you to see men use RIGID brand drill presses to accomplish even the most humble hole drilling tasks?
BingoBoingo: jurov: mod6 mebbe, but linked mostly for the picture alf singled out.
jurov: BingoBoingo: does anyone in the chan actually need a truck on regular basis?
asciilifeform: 'The benefits he has derived from his collegiate experience have been strictly formal, and of no further substance.' << i thought mircea_popescu knew that the usaschwitz 'college racket' has ~0 to do with education, but rather is the only usg-permitted iq test (roughly what grade school was once used for)
mats: (fwiw, got 95 rationale and ref manual in the mail yesterday)
mats: the masochism is real
asciilifeform: (you ~can~ use heap. but its presence is not presupposed by the language constructs.)
asciilifeform: as in, motherfucking constant-space.
shinohai: "JGNAT is a version compiled from the Ada programming language to Java bytecode." <<< srsly?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes et al: believe, if i had another, tastier antidote, i would say. but until then, we will drink this castor.
asciilifeform: using the language really feels like 'penance' for lifetime of bug-creation in c/cpp
asciilifeform: no 'aggressive mayogendered' as far as the yes can see...!
asciilifeform: the ~total unavailability of derplibraries (~no open-sores 'ecosystem') in ada land also has a cleansing effect.
asciilifeform: because items like 'no overflows, fuck off', 'standard and rationale books', 'i can compile this by hand', or 'i can saw the binary open in ida and it is pretty clear what chunk of asm corresponds to what line of src' are NOT NEGOTIABLE.
asciilifeform: i've been struggling with my gag reflex for > year now, the language is pascal-ugly. but ~there is no sane alternative~ known.
asciilifeform: (the other choice, if trying to escape from ada, is to ditch the c-machine silicon, but i just checked my sofa cushion and still did not find a spare $10m in it with which to do this.)
asciilifeform: (i considered and rejected ml and haskell for this reason. go and explain how they work! can spend a fucking career on that. ick)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ada sucks in 1,001 ways, but unlike every other known non-c, introduction of mystery meat layer between the source semantics and resulting binary is not one f them. which unfortunately makes it the ~only~ sane choice for critical realtime system.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2016#1440527 << because motherfucking 1980?? or if you prefer, because it's an ancient gcc frontend? or, if neither satisfies, because its the only compiled lang with knobs to ease binary auditing?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: What about just positioning them relative enough?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i would rather feed racoon with own meat.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd certainly rather feed racoons with food taped to my body than figure out how to position elements relative to each other
ben_vulpes: holy shit does browser positioning fail to respect the right hand rule?
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: keeping my two cents in the tattoo jar
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: ;;later tell mike_c wb and congratulations for the new kid (and job)!
ben_vulpes makes a note to name the next box lilith
BingoBoingo: The extra h turns it into a recognizable people name
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440394 << i remember my first taste of the stuff, a distant relative brought in a bottle (the old-school glass kind, with the trademarked shape) -- 'it is like eating a hive of bees'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's what you do to biologically sourced oils to make them a functional diesel
asciilifeform: danielpbarron or other biblical scholar wants to answer this riddle ^ ?
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 21:41:20; BingoBoingo: It however jusitfies estherification and Biodiesel
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 20:48:10; pete_dushenski: this 'protection'/extortion business model could be just the gravity well extractor that guys like asciilifeform need. it can even be done from laptop on beach!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440358 << i wonder why pete_dushenski did not likewise suggest spamming. it has exactly the same 'hollywood tournament market' profit distribution. ftr i was a malware hunter and exterminator for some years. 99+% of ransomware artists made ~0.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 20:41:44; jurov: you see - they are used to pay for licenses. whether to m$ or to extortionist, makes a little difference