ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-08-2015#1233728 << if it still works i'll buy it from you
ben_vulpes: and no time to catch up yet this week
ben_vulpes: i'm about 3.6klols behind
ben_vulpes: oh lookie
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf http://dpaste.com/2Q2YKDB
ben_vulpes off to welcome $bizpartner back from a week's vacation
ben_vulpes: it's learned masochism
ben_vulpes: programmering is beyond learned helplessness
ben_vulpes: don't lie
ben_vulpes: you like it
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did eventually succeed with the rotor/stator combo
ben_vulpes: anyways, hit me up when you push your patch
ben_vulpes: and by 'kicking off' i mean 'kicked off 2 minutes ago and was distracted by lawgz'
ben_vulpes: ah shoot
ben_vulpes: kicking off a new run, phf
ben_vulpes: provides, however, all tools to compile bitcoin
ben_vulpes: hanbot: yes, fails spectacularly to produce a bitcoin and makes the operator take over patching at that point.
ben_vulpes: phf: are you pushing changes? neither cs nor eulora were listed in the output of `brew update'
ben_vulpes: phf: i have, will again
ben_vulpes: some heinous aws gentoo
ben_vulpes: after much derping, i have a rotor-built stator bitcoind
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/clm/node182.html#SECTION002500000000000000000
ben_vulpes: ah that's right, boost needs exceptions from the -e flag
ben_vulpes: and so i end up commenting out sections of scripts. adding -xeu myself. and so forth.
ben_vulpes: "minimal changes possible" is this naive optimization.
ben_vulpes: when one reaches the top of the hill, naive optimization algo will simply not take you through the valley to the next hill
ben_vulpes: "go uphill", right?
ben_vulpes: big institutional resistance to plucking the team up and depositing them elsewhere on the manifold.
ben_vulpes: the "minimal changes possible thing" keeps us hunting around local maxima
ben_vulpes: that's all i've ever wanted out of these scripts.
ben_vulpes: x prints all output, u signals errors on reference to unbound variables
ben_vulpes: trinque: set -xeu should do the trick, no?
ben_vulpes: `rotor/stattor/rotor.sh`
ben_vulpes now has 3? 4? copies of rotor.sh open
ben_vulpes: ah well it'd help to edit the right script
ben_vulpes: lol why oh why does this script carry on merrily even after i set -e
ben_vulpes: setting -e as well
ben_vulpes: adding the --host flag now.
ben_vulpes: yes, that is what you told trinque as well.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs."
ben_vulpes: fair unsurprising, one has to toe that line to keep a twitter account
ben_vulpes compiles openssl for the third time today
ben_vulpes: behyutiful
ben_vulpes: stepping carefully through next steps.
ben_vulpes: i'll see.
ben_vulpes: no idea if that's right or not
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/1A5RWC9 << how buildroot exits
ben_vulpes: ah it ain't so bad
ben_vulpes: always happy to indoctrinate another
ben_vulpes: okay, well pm if you need help
ben_vulpes: the incremental recompilation shit is mind-blowing
ben_vulpes: :P
ben_vulpes: stoppit, wouldja?
ben_vulpes: aok.
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: hate to ask, but...
ben_vulpes: i had a dream that i figured out how to never recompile openssl again
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: what's your cl development flow like?
ben_vulpes: joker.
ben_vulpes: syn
ben_vulpes: righteous
ben_vulpes: !up scthoopbot
ben_vulpes: ahaha
ben_vulpes: !up scthoopbot
ben_vulpes: !up scthoopbot
ben_vulpes: lovely, thanks world
ben_vulpes: <ben_vulpes> will now have to throw everything out and recompile buildroot, no?<< so then yes
ben_vulpes: will now have to throw everything out and recompile buildroot, no?
ben_vulpes: put buildroot in the wrong place.
ben_vulpes: i *did* notice that bit
ben_vulpes: well this explains a few thigs
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform and what ends up in toolchain?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is the untarred buildroot intended to live in toolchain or in the root of the rotor directory?
ben_vulpes is having trouble keeping all of the moving parts for this thing in head at once.
ben_vulpes: myeah.
ben_vulpes: how did rsync get in there?
ben_vulpes: remarkable things, really.
ben_vulpes: cunts are stretchy man.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf new logdump for ya
ben_vulpes: wb yo
ben_vulpes: !up Duffer1
ben_vulpes to good old fashioned entertainment with girl
ben_vulpes: clearly i don't understand how the world werkz
ben_vulpes: i can't compile anyone's code
ben_vulpes: everything is broken
ben_vulpes: wth
ben_vulpes: brew install getcwd fails too
ben_vulpes: phf: Error: No such file or directory - getcwd
ben_vulpes: bwaha
ben_vulpes: do forgive my frustrated prodding, asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: aight my ten are up
ben_vulpes: don't confuse the issue.
ben_vulpes: but patches *must stand alone*
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no arguments there.
ben_vulpes: anyways, do you insist on refusing to see the hysteresis in the system?
ben_vulpes: oh i'm aware, have written at least one taludic entry
ben_vulpes: somewhere between s.nsa poems and zilc h in email body is some utility i'm sure
ben_vulpes: eh relax
ben_vulpes: why is current fixed?
ben_vulpes: why was previous broken?
ben_vulpes: USELESS.
ben_vulpes: "corrected" with no further context is useless.
ben_vulpes: log is not adequate documentation.
ben_vulpes: patches and submissions to the ml must stand on their own.
ben_vulpes: i'm here for ten minutes
ben_vulpes: !down onlooker
ben_vulpes: those patches
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and what happened with that db locks patch of yours
ben_vulpes: unless you're apple and can forcibly cram your changes down the world's throat, you have to wait for the world to catch up to your releases.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i STILL don't understand why just about everybody insists on building stator. << adoption takes a few weeks, have you seen the android numbers?
ben_vulpes: <phf> re was explained in grant morrison's INVISIBLES series. get your facts, straight son, straight from the source. fnord. << i think there are characters missing from this line but i can't tell
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> ;;later tell mod6 http://dpaste.com/3YFS9YV.txt << test2 logs for ya << that's the whole log?
ben_vulpes: just you?
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-july-2015-statement/#comment-114990 << what is a BTCiii ?
ben_vulpes: try again, apologies, thank you
ben_vulpes: ofc it is
ben_vulpes: spieler*
ben_vulpes: achtung, spielr
ben_vulpes: updated!
ben_vulpes: aha, yes, i know precisely how i hosed this
ben_vulpes: which does *not* match the one currently on my site.
ben_vulpes: phf:
ben_vulpes: 33ff9cc085cfca6fa92443a0a17ef3dd7fe54765b6886b936d8955446f85a63e85298f79cd189345ebb54622084c5c414b68aba260e61c1ef22abebd8ed3ca82 << 512 of the recent logs
ben_vulpes: myessir
ben_vulpes: asks users to sign blobs?
ben_vulpes: users derp their keys into localstorage?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell wywialm how does the gpg system integrate with the browser application?
ben_vulpes: <trinque> funkenstein_: yes, how could you have a complete model of the thing inside itself? << "to simulate a universe, you must have a universe"
ben_vulpes: <ag3nt_zer0> well thats what i meant about the political naivity naivte, you mean
ben_vulpes: mats: "vendors"?
ben_vulpes: then saying "hurr durr dun werk"
ben_vulpes: 90% of what i do around here is compiling other people's software
ben_vulpes: ran brew update, got new recipe, still no dice on cs
ben_vulpes: still no dice
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf updated cs log bundle for you
ben_vulpes: woo
ben_vulpes: you'd think those things would be an 'of course', wouldn't you
ben_vulpes: anyways, off for a spell
ben_vulpes: i can't do shell scripts without those two things.
ben_vulpes: set -e, write functions?
ben_vulpes: i'll get there i'm sure
ben_vulpes: lucky guy
ben_vulpes: does your eulora boot?
ben_vulpes: hopefully
ben_vulpes: installing again without bullet present
ben_vulpes: myeah, let me rip that out and run it again
ben_vulpes: well except i don't think i ever did
ben_vulpes: phf: possible holdover from macports?
ben_vulpes: i've not looked at it yet
ben_vulpes: there he is
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf http://cascadianhacker.com/eulora/cslogs.tar.gz
ben_vulpes: no sir
ben_vulpes: nifty, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes emerges more things
ben_vulpes: what's the logline that indicates its let go of the db?
ben_vulpes: been down this road too many times now.
ben_vulpes shuts down bitcoind, sets reminder for self, wanders off to make coffee, dismisses reminder ('no way its's shut down yet'), forgetst to restart
ben_vulpes: plus, i have all century.
ben_vulpes: noty.
ben_vulpes: what and wait for bitcoin to shut down?
ben_vulpes: slurping dregs from dulap
ben_vulpes: coracle's caught up to 209425
ben_vulpes: i am mystified i tell you
ben_vulpes: or is this just the girlfaces
ben_vulpes: you don't see much of a difference between nyc and the md burbs?
ben_vulpes: i think this whole routine of ascii's boils down to "the east coast sucks and more so in direct proportion to DC proximity"
ben_vulpes: do you boys not /smile/ or something?
ben_vulpes: i have a wife, wear a ring, and dates are *still* very easy to procure
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ^ absolute iron SOP in usa << i do not get this attitude of yourn
ben_vulpes: phf: running and logging the CS install
ben_vulpes: undata and trinque are the same guy too, pete
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf_mobile i'm going to give this another whack tonight and then knock off for a spell. cs seems unhappy about...something.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell -hf_mobile i'm going to give this another whack tonight and then knock off for a spell. cs seems unhappy about...something.
ben_vulpes: !up n6
ben_vulpes: static linking is a thing to know about to hack on bitcoin related things
ben_vulpes: nah, 'twasn't you
ben_vulpes: n6: that is beyond me, boss
ben_vulpes: deterministic doesn't have much to do with what you're working on n6
ben_vulpes: they have all the machine code they need in their executeable files
ben_vulpes: statically built programs do not link at runtime, n6
ben_vulpes: ah nm
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "chrysaanthemum"?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: seen the duke engine?
ben_vulpes: wankel like electric is a perpetually recurring fad in cars
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: now why'd i do that
ben_vulpes: although i have hopes the corvette will preserve some of its value.
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: yes i would very much like to trade a rapidly depreciating asset for one that doesn't
ben_vulpes: haven't rolled like that since the suburban i drove as a younger boy
ben_vulpes: everyone gets the fuck out of my way.
ben_vulpes: rather nice
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1230220 << tres tres tres nifty
ben_vulpes: kinda want mine painted on my rear fender
ben_vulpes: i like the fingerprint tho, pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> because ip is going away, there's no << hear har
ben_vulpes: running, phf_mobile
ben_vulpes: not on os x!
ben_vulpes: hi bobby! still reading logs?
ben_vulpes: much less protracted than the viragh episode
ben_vulpes: if y'r in pain for 10 hours y'r doing it wrong
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: what drove that decision?
ben_vulpes: >.<
ben_vulpes: > mid wife
ben_vulpes: the midwife is a groat?
ben_vulpes: with a goat?
ben_vulpes: on a boat?
ben_vulpes: hottub in the snow?
ben_vulpes: limit of everything as time goes on is babies
ben_vulpes: doing anything wacky for the deploy?
ben_vulpes: o wow
ben_vulpes: when's yours due?
ben_vulpes: anyways, good evening pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: *** Luke-Jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) has quit: Excess Flood << hyu
ben_vulpes: n6: good way to make minimal progress on everything
ben_vulpes: as mp said one time "mothers care too much and fathers don't know wtf's in the box"
ben_vulpes: but those to whom that work has been delegated have other probably more sane ideas
ben_vulpes: cazalla: i did mention cosleeping yeah
ben_vulpes: and what the hell are they drinking
ben_vulpes: girl on the left looks startlingly familiar
ben_vulpes: probably will for funsies, but it turns out the plan is to have a basinette next to the bed
ben_vulpes: kiddo's still in-utero, cazalla
ben_vulpes: a very funny name for gaijin to cook up.
ben_vulpes: aka 'baka'
ben_vulpes: ahaha
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'ohka'?
ben_vulpes: do you want to do gentoo quest or do you want to play around with the callgraph generator?
ben_vulpes: dude you're not flying spaceships right now
ben_vulpes: welcome to a whole new life of misery
ben_vulpes: well, 'grats on getting off windows
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: also - what's your background?
ben_vulpes: n6: look up "dynamic linking"
ben_vulpes: no sex?
ben_vulpes: like
ben_vulpes wonders what poking too much would look like
ben_vulpes: in entirely unrelated news, the lil boy now kicks back when i poke at him
ben_vulpes: almost not worthwhile.
ben_vulpes: instructions, man.
ben_vulpes: i believe that i've mentioned this before
ben_vulpes: designed things so as to prevent inquisitive operators from mutilating themselves?
ben_vulpes: dja know that i wrote assembly manuals for line operators, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: WILKOMMEN
ben_vulpes: $ rotor
ben_vulpes: understanding is an quixotic illusion
ben_vulpes: gentoo quest
ben_vulpes: look guy wants to build bitcoin, go do it over there in the gentoo virtualization sandbox that Ju5t Werkz!
ben_vulpes: el minimo
ben_vulpes: i have