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ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265949 << it's even better than you could possibly know, alf. the things can be had for being white, female, and taking 50k in loans out per year while studying art.

ben_vulpes: ack

ben_vulpes: my

ben_vulpes eyeskipped over 'me', is a derp

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265836 << lol n00b

ben_vulpes: amuse

ben_vulpes: cn? hard currency?

ben_vulpes will someday wear esrs mantle of "attached self to prominent open source project"

ben_vulpes: omg the unrelenting stream of kitsch

ben_vulpes: aok found photos

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264747 << forbidden city

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: photos?

ben_vulpes: and just as certainly leave you complaining that things never get done unless you do them yourself.

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: politely telling me to take my patches and go home?

ben_vulpes: in other news, i'm off to a baby shower

ben_vulpes: hear hear

ben_vulpes: ahaha look at all of these python tabs i can close now

ben_vulpes: but the dream of distributed marketplaces is alive in #otc.

ben_vulpes: mnope.

ben_vulpes: time to manually generate some svgs, eh?

ben_vulpes: that'd be trying to break the thing.

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: add it back into the todos :P

ben_vulpes: (because the code lacks locality)

ben_vulpes: hm.

ben_vulpes: and no, i have not yet ginned up the tree-fuzzer.

ben_vulpes: yes, i have only written 'happy path' tests.

ben_vulpes: and this is why the global state drives me up a wall. because i cannot import one of these functions from the script and then run it without setting up a global environment for it. it's difficult to reason about the code lacks locality.

ben_vulpes: but looky here. you've written a thing that more-or-less must be tested as a whole, and i'm trying to push for testing the bits.

ben_vulpes: i know what it is, silly. just not the places where it's used. yet.

ben_vulpes: i don't think i understand their use well enough to complain in detail.

ben_vulpes: i've not touched the arg parsing itself.

ben_vulpes: i /abhor/ functions that take the whole environment as their input arguments.

ben_vulpes: c_wot, for instance, has no business knowing about all sorts of things in args.

ben_vulpes: and that is strictly untrue.

ben_vulpes: in all honesty, it is a relic of testing from before i had the args objects mocked out.

ben_vulpes: you mean untestable spaghetti?

ben_vulpes: eradication of global state and testability.

ben_vulpes: `python -m unittest test_v'

ben_vulpes: i of course neglected the test incantations.

ben_vulpes: HA

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it is only of middling nifty-ness.

ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-September/000165.html << achtung, asciilifeform

ben_vulpes: what are best practices with the mailing list again?

ben_vulpes: *sigh*

ben_vulpes: so that'd be the hash of a "pressing"?

ben_vulpes: aha, yes I was

ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: dat beetus

ben_vulpes: ^^ from a vanilla vdemo tar, unless i'm horribly mistaken.

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform `for i in $(shasum -a 512 patches/* | awk '{print $1}'); do python v.py patches o $1; done` returns "No origin found." for all patches. i've not successfully run 'origin' yet.

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bingoboingo you'd appreciate the local gravity distortion in the 24-hour cafe this morning

ben_vulpes: !s friable

ben_vulpes: mains-currenting his box, and so i think phuctor is in limbo for the moment.

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vextor phuctor has had mains plugs pulled on it several times recenty, and alf's attitude (i believe) is that the thing shoudn't run if its going to have its memory ripped out every time it warms up. remember, it keeps the running product in memory. mircea_popescu's attitude is that "software should be less friable than the hardware upon which it runs". asciilifeform is trying to find the shitgnome responsble for

ben_vulpes: (asciilifeform, what did your neolithic folks demonstrably have that you want but do not have?)

ben_vulpes: hm!

ben_vulpes: lol simply means nature comes by and wallops population numbers once in a while

ben_vulpes: what, the hungry existed until the diseases arrived to wipe them out?

ben_vulpes: disease also wiped out huge numbers!

ben_vulpes: GLOBAL STATE

ben_vulpes: STATE

ben_vulpes: state

ben_vulpes: hey boss

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is it intentional that v will not list the wot without root patches?

ben_vulpes: args.f(args) argleblarg

ben_vulpes: as a pedagogical exercise, why?

ben_vulpes: brutal, missed that part.

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you have popcorn

ben_vulpes: v. nifty.

ben_vulpes: d'you have a vpatch for it yet, punkman?

ben_vulpes: oho

ben_vulpes: !up lksakeye

ben_vulpes: i, for instance, no longer shit in the kitchen

ben_vulpes: it's been a mutual training

ben_vulpes: shinohai: today i didn't want to go to brunch, so lady v made me brunch before going out for her own.

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-09-2015#1263157 << the luxury

ben_vulpes: but srs, "don't leave valuables in the vehicle" around these parts.

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262786 << aww, not the 4u!

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262756 << in other words, the perfect pressed-shit-carbide with which to carve up httptrons

ben_vulpes: boo, okay. ring me when you're up.

ben_vulpes: groovy. am?

ben_vulpes: saturday?

ben_vulpes: craft a patch

ben_vulpes: trinque: i'll bang on it with you

ben_vulpes is not convinced that brevity is the be all and end all.

ben_vulpes: ascii_field: any changes i'd make would produce higher linecounts.

ben_vulpes: two 'clean', 'well-defined' items whose use produces code that is illegible.

ben_vulpes: the 'dsl' so produced by their use is not in any sense legible, however.

ben_vulpes: enough with the floppy metaphors!

ben_vulpes: how is python not barbed wire?

ben_vulpes: > dildoctl

ben_vulpes: "i'll cut stainless, but you keep that piece of shit al off my machines"

ben_vulpes wonders what it must be like to feel so strongly about programming languages

ben_vulpes: (or ruby...)

ben_vulpes: "fits in head" is a realistic goal with python, perl and cpp?

ben_vulpes: and who's making you keep python and perl on your systems?

ben_vulpes: great, but why?

ben_vulpes: so java has an asym library, does that shell out to gpg as well?

ben_vulpes: why do we never discuss java?

ben_vulpes: as for names, well

ben_vulpes: nobody is doing anything of 'actual worth' and 'much' is such a wishy-washy term that you can set the bar arbitrarily high.

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260853 << oh, horseshit.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: which and why?

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260745 << missed the boat on fats though

ben_vulpes: http://www.geekwire.com/2015/watch-boeing-demolish-this-old-757-for-recycling/

ben_vulpes: people who eat manufactured food - eat manufactured food.

ben_vulpes: stores?

ben_vulpes shrugs

ben_vulpes: hm.

ben_vulpes: leastaways that was a complaint i heard from you once.

ben_vulpes: quit bullshitting, nothing is in walking distance of your house!

ben_vulpes: there are enough reasonable sane people here to make farmers markets within walking distance of my house 4/7 days of the week financially viable.

ben_vulpes: well your "here" is batshit nuts amigo.

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260586 << its an obvious place for the market to be right now. gotta aggregate demand.

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260537 << who're you using?

ben_vulpes: i

ben_vulpes: tool

ben_vulpes: five

ben_vulpes: what the fuck is wrong with you mats

ben_vulpes: has giant haring stickers on it

ben_vulpes: still way fast

ben_vulpes: i have an mbp, 15", only took it out to play eulora once and a while because i got ubuntu on it waaay ways ago

ben_vulpes swoons

ben_vulpes: matte!

ben_vulpes: $bizpartner got the new delicate thing

ben_vulpes: things are cookies these days, granted.

ben_vulpes: great displays though

ben_vulpes: nice terms tho

ben_vulpes: i dont know why anyone would treat an apple product as anything but a disposable terminal

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1260219 << this sounds crazy, de veras?

ben_vulpes: by virtue of writing the crud once and driving oodles of business through it.

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1260178 << the mythical software company pulls in vastly more revenue than it takes to tame the complexity of producing the revenue.

ben_vulpes: for show

ben_vulpes: frame probably has a few strands of cf

ben_vulpes: trinque: no fibers even?

ben_vulpes: straight up fractured and popped out. not even deformation: catastrophic fracture propagation.

ben_vulpes: i ripped a part of the nominal 'metal' out of a compressed air nailgun two weekends back

ben_vulpes: this 'macbook' is zamac.

ben_vulpes: hahahaha

ben_vulpes: trinque: cat hair?

ben_vulpes: and not, to hit the other end of the spectrum, gabriel_laddel

ben_vulpes: not davout

ben_vulpes makes various gestures of distress

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1260077 << this has not escaped my notice and has blown my tiny mind

ben_vulpes: ("how's the water today, boys?" "water?!")

ben_vulpes: trinque: examples of unixisms deeply rooted in python?

ben_vulpes: and WE HATE KV STORES

ben_vulpes: what's the difference between "everything is a file" and "global variables" anyways

ben_vulpes: *nic*

ben_vulpes: trinque: imagine nic internals as clos objects

ben_vulpes: phf: one day i'll find an interesting question, i swear

ben_vulpes is not a lisper

ben_vulpes: setq an alist that shit you care about uses to look things up?

ben_vulpes: it's just a file on a server somewhere mang

ben_vulpes: the impl handls the dns parts of pathnames

ben_vulpes: nono

ben_vulpes: cl is such a delightfully crazy mindset

ben_vulpes: > dns resolutino

ben_vulpes: > pathname spec

ben_vulpes: how is /etc/hosts a cl data structure?

ben_vulpes: some other 15 year old bitcoin wizard however long ago

ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B39cenrIQW0 << there's this mine in romania...

ben_vulpes: buenos noches

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259663 << this sounds eerily familiar

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: would you elaborate on "own the machine" and a) why it should and b) how python does not?

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: more lines is all you can be guaranteed of.

ben_vulpes: hm.

ben_vulpes: so why python and not cl, out of curiosity?

ben_vulpes: haha

ben_vulpes: idem gpg, client braindamage...

ben_vulpes: it's software that i must run that does not fit in my head!

ben_vulpes: no no!

ben_vulpes: well i've not parsed v in its entirety into my head yet, and after bitcoin i'm loath to run software that doesn't fit in my head.

ben_vulpes: http://qntra.net/2015/03/local-police-arming-robots/ << bb you're unsung comic gold i tell you

ben_vulpes: wait, piss-cycle?

ben_vulpes: i know!

ben_vulpes: "shop all day, pick it up on your way home!"

ben_vulpes: the correct solution here is drive-by order pickup on arterials.

ben_vulpes: achtung logreaders!

ben_vulpes: !up assbot

ben_vulpes: and lol can anyone actually drive to your place from the depot in less than two hours?

ben_vulpes: kg/wk?

ben_vulpes: nowai

ben_vulpes: trinque: is clearly not buying the nice frozen stuff.

ben_vulpes: regarding that ancient optimization of expenditures thread, in america the ceo will have to report his place of residence if purchased/rented by the company as income, correct asciilifeform, mircea_popescu?

ben_vulpes: incantations and built in furniture

ben_vulpes: shinohai: cascadian witch

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258861 << there are some who don't?

ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

ben_vulpes: hanbot: i once cooked up a wiki page on the topic. has since languished, rotted, died.

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