mircea_popescu: that he buries it under 5000 pages doesn't help. much of carroll's... lightiness, to call faggotry thus for now, is excused on the grounds of brevity.
hanbot: well there's an interesting cleavage. it's probably a stretch but i might suggest that tolkein's bit with gollum shares the sensual/sexual/at any rate internal-and-external, physical change via subjugation of self that appears in say alice's "eat me" wafers, if that does anything for you mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: what cock ? there isn't even ANY WOMAN.
mircea_popescu: mark twain being the best example as far as trouble goes - by "rights" you should add him, and yet he doesn't belong, at all.
mircea_popescu: (showing that it's not the air or water of oxford magically doing it, or somesuch. much like it's not the ethnic group per se.)
hanbot: <phf> mircea_popescu: what about stevenson, doyle, dumas, kipling, they also all fall into that category? << and what of verne & carroll?
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-02#1512927 << storify it! bonus points for cocks, esp if they're only implicit.
mircea_popescu: literally, the only point problems start, is when jay goes into shop and wants to buy an ipad because he thinks this is the only shop and therefore must be that apple concept store he's heard about.
mircea_popescu: when i was a child i wore blue, and diana_coman wore pink. thanks god they didn't mix up the colors, lest i'd have grown tits ?
mircea_popescu: baudelaire, toulouse-lautrec and five others fucked the same one whore. this blessed woman made toulouse-lautrec a writer, baudelaire a painter, and five others nothing ?
mircea_popescu: i do not say any such thing. i say he is a competent smith, running as best he can a convenience shop, which for whatever reason is blessed with a wall where every jay and silent bob in the county is attracted to rest, and rap, and what they do.
phf: so is it purely when i became a man, i put the ways of childhood behind me, or you're saying there's something specific to tolkien that turns his fans into castrati?
BingoBoingo: "Murder the Jungle before Jungle Murders US!!!!"
shinohai: You mean Under the Doedars?
mircea_popescu: and then she finished it. and was nonplussed by the end, much like... everyone ever.
mircea_popescu: re kipling, because this just came up in mp household : girly read his story, you know the one. the spooky one, with the people in the pit.
mircea_popescu: phf i couldn't tell you re stevenson. the only scott i ever read was shaw. anmd shaw is not in this.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Well butthurt does tend to fade. If it persists longer than two weeks they have to see a doctor
diana_coman: I'll add only the message that considered to be "what Tolkien had to say" (even though he did it through "not-real-life universe") namely that all and everyone (yeah, the ordinary and no, they are not made anything by gandalf quite pointedly not made anything by him) is in some way responsible /called to do something when shit hits the fan; that is all I guess
phf: mircea_popescu: what about stevenson, doyle, dumas, kipling, they also all fall into that category?
BingoBoingo: By butthurt readers I especially mean WAPO http://www.slate.com/blogs/nightlight/2016/07/31/harry_potter_and_the_cursed_child_reviewed.html
BingoBoingo: The people who deep inside wanted another novel to take them away from IRL for a while.
mircea_popescu: (it's in the logs)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in another twenty years they'll catch up with the "book for practical activities of making puippets and imagining scenes", ie 1970s ro standard
BingoBoingo: My opinion of JK Rowling increased over the weekend when I learned that she released the new Harry Potter story as a printed play. A++ Trolling.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the child that insists to stay and dedicates his effort to staying a child, a la http://trilema.com/2010/femeia-nesuferita/ has a serious mental problem.
mircea_popescu: i can understand others can be, and have no beef with it. and i don't necessarily even pity the situation, a test's a test.
mircea_popescu: the reason i don't watch "Star wars" or "sex and the city" ; nor bother with "lords of the rings" or "jezebel" is exactly the same reason i don't go around sex stores to sniff used condoms and napkins from the bin in their video booths, like isabelle huppert's character in the piano teacher : i am not quite that hungry.
asciilifeform: and is standing in line for the chopping block
asciilifeform: to result in the rubbish key with apparently ok headers
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I pasted the key in fresh
diana_coman: hm; so far we established we agree (and apparently this wasn't in fact disputed although it seemed so) that tolkien's writing is not reflecting "real life" nor intended to really; this makes it crud in your view I gather
mircea_popescu: this doesn't make crackpots somehow inherit the empire of proper science, through the absenteism of everyhone else.
diana_coman: if it is copywriting hence the point is to get paid for the length, she did better by a wide margin , no?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: which is the sad part here.
mircea_popescu: any writing that's paid by the line.
mircea_popescu: "somewhere in the teens". ie, "when i disbecame a child".
mircea_popescu: it's not altogether clear the anglos even have a "life plan" that includes anything besides "how to be mme bovary's husband BUT AVOID the whole legbox incident & fallout thereof."
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you familiar with bouvard & pecuchet, the dicitonary readers ?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, tolkien is therefore part of english CIVILISATION. he is an artefact. he is pointedly NOT part of culture.
diana_coman: Tolkien made his universe as a place to experiment with his language; I can fully see and agree with the point that it is "not real life" - I read him very late and therefore I knew this already, I never for a second considered it as "real life" or reflection of it or whatever; I guess that's where the whole thing comes from
diana_coman: hm, funnily enough I did love Sadoveanu as a kid but got over it somewhere in the teens
mircea_popescu: i even loved him as a kid, and thought it great fiction. just don't seem to summon the interest these days.
mircea_popescu: what doth surprise me however, diana_coman , is that the allergy i presume in you for the works of "socialist realism" does not somehow extend to... this here OTHER, exactly the same, socialist realism.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's not to be surprising. if one day you decide to pump the septic tank into the house, the only things still standing will be still standing because lower density than the shit, and so float, not other reason.
mircea_popescu: by now the only places left outside are left outside because too dumb to qualify for anglotardation, such as argentina.
diana_coman: uhm, what is not part? (it was pretty much all the way from Paris to Lyon at least)
mircea_popescu: france is part and parcel of anglotard world these days.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> this activity, not just "tolkien" but generally "reading", is very much subverted in the anglotard world. have yo useen this, whole carloads of white, quiet, mousy people "reading a book" on their commute <- actually I saw this in FRANCE
asciilifeform: also there is an almost inevitable black dude singing to himself, and/or pumping what must be 50w through his earbuds, can be heard from 3 cars away
asciilifeform: and a bureaucrat or 2, who is taking her 3ring home and probably diddles it even on the pot
asciilifeform: there is also usually 1-2 kidz with chemistry etc textbooks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah obv. that was back before the jobs return.
asciilifeform: on d.c. metro there will also typically be 2-3 chix per car, reading off epaper gizmo, and if you look it will be a ru 'romance' 9/10 times
mircea_popescu: phf much like "solo" gets its own section at the pron store.
mircea_popescu: this activity, not just "tolkien" but generally "reading", is very much subverted in the anglotard world. have yo useen this, whole carloads of white, quiet, mousy people "reading a book" on their commute.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the notion that tolkien is a writer is not unlike the notion that roger alexander of the us civil war reenactment society is A CIVIL WAR HERO.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, "there's no errect penis in tolkien's book" - is this a correct description of the main fault you find?
mircea_popescu: just don't go around thinking / saying that "there's nothing outside of sin"
asciilifeform: i dunno that i've ever run into anyone among the kind of folk BingoBoingo described, who actually ~read~ tolkien.
diana_coman: keep aspies away from tolkien you say? so keep them, whatevs
mircea_popescu: the message isn't don't eat this it's bad for you. wqhether something is good or bad is no direct relation of whether you should like it or not. if you like it, like it, and if you will sin go sin. come back when you've sinned enough.
BingoBoingo: But everything to do with their accesss to it!
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: It is the manifestation of the Obeast's character defects amplified by their access to butter.
BingoBoingo: phf: More, don't eat only this and for the love of god go out into the world occasionally and test it.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, pure and proper obesity is a thing; if one gorges on butter only without exercising/doing anything/actually cooking with it, they become morbidly something; how is that the fault of butter now though?
phf: but the message seems to be, don't eat this it's bad for you. BingoBoingo grew up with fat people who don't know how to cook and only eat at mcdonalds. i grew up with moscows girls who all know how to cook, and for them stopping by a mcdonalds for a milkshake was sort of a thing
BingoBoingo: Cultural obesity is a thing. If one gorges on Disney without exercising their culture in the real world, they become morbidly something.
phf: i think it's the "computers for professionals" thread all over again.
diana_coman: now you are basically in the camp of hysterical wives with "violence in video games makes kids murderers"
diana_coman: other than that I don't see any link to either immersive universes or Gandalf or Tolkien or whatever else
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, I think that teens who want to wait for someone to make them special will find something to justify it
mircea_popescu: http://www.latrecut.ro/2006/04/peste-de-sticla/ << the glass fish on milieu. q to the attendance : is this artwork ?
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> exactly because they are not special << And then they take a shit on national borders et al. Reading this sort of immersive universe is exactly how awkward teens become bornies/aspies/et al because they can wait for Gandalf to make them different and interesting.
diana_coman: guess not since I don't see the link
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wouldjha stop trolling them this is 101 class go to 205 and bother the twentysomethings!
mircea_popescu: no, it's "the divine poetry of little things" bla bla
BingoBoingo: Why did the midgets alternately love/despise gandalf with no middle ground if he wasn't special.
diana_coman: exactly because they are not special
diana_coman: what point? that hobbits were special? they are meant to be exactly not-special, that's why I suspect BingoBoingo perceives them as boring in the first place
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original is pablum, is hte problem.
mircea_popescu: if you don't, it may seem neutral. it isn't neutral, not anymore than the glass fish on the milieu.
mircea_popescu: maybe you do or maybe you don't knbow the kitsch victorian xtianity that yielded the special midgets.
asciilifeform: all i see here is folks who possibly encountered modern and vaguely-tolkienisticly-flavoured pablum and proceed to piss on the original sight unseen
diana_coman: uhm, what worlds where people are special BingoBoingo ? as far as I know Tolkien's point was quite the opposite of this really
BingoBoingo: Seriously fucking midgets with hairy feet are special, because their boring makes then determined?
mircea_popescu: if you disbelieve this, go, bring the prime number that's even.
mircea_popescu: believe it or not, there's nothing substantially wrong with the statement "no prime number is even"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is upon you to bring the exception, rather than complain of the form of the universal.
mircea_popescu: and it's not in thefucking construction set, o noes!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nothing wrong with this, EXCEPT it comes with instructions, and the instructions include "how to castrate yourself with your new lego set" << This does seem like Tolkien/Lewis/Rowling et al. Pretty much made to turn people into apies with "worlds where people are special but fucking doesn't exist"
mircea_popescu: phf allow me to quote to you from modern tolkien : "The heir apparent, Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, is poorly regarded in Thailand and the succession has clouded the brows of not only the Thai political elite, but the Thai people, who believe a period of substantial instability will follow the King's death"
asciilifeform: who never read literary criticism in their lyf << lel, i live with it
mircea_popescu: diana_coman was mostly directed at teh boys, who never read literary criticism in their lyf.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with this, EXCEPT it comes with instructions, and the instructions include "how to castrate yourself with your new lego set"
diana_coman: I don't follow where the magical artefact came from; fwiw I fully agree that a book's a mechanism, true; I still can't fully grasp where you say this particular mechanism is broken/not even one ; I'll go through the old threads again, maybe I get it
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is it that english doesn't EVEN HAVE the word that describes its literature, ie, a rata, ratare ?
mircea_popescu: if it's famous it gets "famous" translator, who's a writer ratee, who then fills the corpse with his own crabs. gives appearance of life, movement at least.
mircea_popescu: granted the attendance is not much trained in this weird arcana, so we'll not dispose the matter on the spot. but still, worth thinking of. a book's a mechanism, like any other, not some sort of magical artefact.
asciilifeform: (as did also, e.g., my brother)
mircea_popescu: and phf did the mnost that can earnestly be done, above.
diana_coman: so basically that's what you are asking for: translate tolkien for me so that I can see what is worth in there for in the current language I can't see it
mircea_popescu: but that's not the matter.
mircea_popescu: ~obviously~ you could translate, if that were the matter, "oh they brought him tolkien in islandic and he doesn't read that"
mircea_popescu: that's where the simile breaks down, i even read arabic.
diana_coman: thing is: if you give gcc some python code, it won't be bothered to read it
mircea_popescu: you think what gcc can and can't be bothered to read has to do with bugs in gcc ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is not true, for i am not people. i am a scholar, and when i spit an error the problem's the code not the compiler.
mircea_popescu: phf no argument there. he can be the president of the oxford medieval reenaction society and organise medieval faires. i'd go, with the chicks topless, they'd kick me out, all nice and good.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, thing is that what people can or cannot be bothered to read has to do with them, not with what is written really; so it's kind of circular: he writes "crud" because I can't be bothered to read it
phf: tolkien is not literature though, it's more like an oxford style set of artifacts (epics, linguistic analysis, chronicles, etc.). the interesting part of tolkien is that he invented a universe and described it through same set of tools he would describe historical past. the sex part is on point, because stodgy british professor, he views his imaginary world through same dodgy prism he views historical past.
mircea_popescu: hey, it was a meal. a man without a meal is liable to do shocking things for the $50.
BingoBoingo: Coinbase got its kiss of death, ROger VERified the funds https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/760318293651566592
mircea_popescu: i said THEY DON'T FUCK PROPERLY!
mircea_popescu: one doesn't get out of literary criticism just by writing A LOT of crud people can't be bothered to read through.
phf: i thought the objection was, not enough fucking
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not what was said ; also review the compiler point above.
asciilifeform: granted mircea_popescu may or may not feel inclined to read the b00k, but the 'it suxx because jrrt was english' is a bag of lulz.
mircea_popescu: otherwise this position is much like "but teach, you can't score me on my program UNTIL IT FINISHES COMPILING!!1"
mircea_popescu: i have read the book. to my standard of reading a book, which does include throw it away on its own merits.
asciilifeform: the 'nothing to say' is most appropriate verdict ~after~ reading b00k...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform (the french point, for ease of following : at the time james was king. the king of scotland. scotland was, throughout, and recognised at the time, a french outpost in the islands. shakespeare's own henry says as much.)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 15:30 mircea_popescu: iirc the army training is more along the lines of "if your mate looks like he's going to become a prisoner, shoot them"
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-02#1512714 << iirc (it's been some years by now!) the exact policy is, "shoot to kill the captors, and don't hesitate just because you may kill your buddy"
diana_coman: asciilifeform was faster than me on tolkien; it sounds to me that mircea_popescu's objection to Tolkien is that he did not tackle the right problem(s)
mircea_popescu: eventually they decided to go with the dutch, and it turns out the dutch weren't anything but hayfire.
asciilifeform: how come mircea_popescu's ethnic allergy to the english dun extend to ol' william s. ?
mircea_popescu: his characters don't fuck properly. read it side to side with, say, the decameron. ALSO an archeologist and whatnot. but one with things to say.
mircea_popescu: he is, if you wish a metaphor, in the position of the old scottish lord with a nice big castle and ample fields, sitting alone without offspring, without the possibility of offspring, disinterested in the world, waiting to die.
mircea_popescu: yes, but i specifically disclaimed the argument as to craft. yes, the man is a crafty writer, archeologist, etc. put in the work. hard work. intelligently. yes.
asciilifeform: the imitators, who chopped up tolkien and shannonized - are not worth the dust from my balls.
asciilifeform: tolkien was an archaeologist and linguist, dug through all of europe's myths, legends, in the original languages, to make his feedstock. and was a talented and quite humble man, never saw ~any income from his fiction - which was superb, if verbose - during life.
mircea_popescu also can't normally remember people's names. the people in question flatter themselves with the idea this is a fault of mine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as knuth said, there comes a time.
mircea_popescu: i dun really read the spam queue.
asciilifeform: betcha 'lotr' would take less effort to read than mircea_popescu's spam queue for the week.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform their characters don't fuck properly. yes, good, as in crafty writer. still has nothing to say besides "god save the queen"
mircea_popescu: it just makes them what thgey always were : invidious barbarians lost in a distant, misty island.
mircea_popescu: a bunch of tired oxford fags trying to give their miserable subculture breath in the heavens doesn't make it a sort of byzantine "chrstian faith"
a111: Logged on 2016-04-05 03:04 mircea_popescu: ok, point taken, the guy is good.
asciilifeform: 10,001 shannonizations of shakespeare don't cancel the original.
mircea_popescu: can't even fucking remember any of this crud it's always the same words in a different souping.
mircea_popescu: in the sense that if they are old enough to walk they're old enough to fuck and that's the end of the matter.
mircea_popescu: nothing is ever for the kids.
mircea_popescu: yes, this includes tolkien. no, i don't see him as much more than an earlier, therefore craftier, woman what's her name.
asciilifeform: funny thing, lewis started showing up at the open air blackmarkets back in... '91? and we bought, and enjoyed, and then choked mid-way through series on the obvious bait
asciilifeform: the thing about c.s.lewis ?!
mircea_popescu: iirc the army training is more along the lines of "if your mate looks like he's going to become a prisoner, shoot them"
mircea_popescu: an' read the logs in integrum, generally speaking.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-27 17:51 mircea_popescu: meanwhile the eth "rednecks" are "acting against their own interest". as per usg verbiage now current.
covertress: ETH btc thinks ETC liberator funds are on the move
covertress: came here today for the fireworks, if any
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha reddit gonna steal another sub ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: let me not be the only one lulzing at the greaseball shithead. here : https://archive.is/tumCH
a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 02:27 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512600 << bush girls would get party belligerent at smith point from time to time, main difference was that between bouncers and secret service, there's no way anybody was filming anything and still retained possession of device
mircea_popescu: as per usual the name of the anglotard game is "you may complain about any part of our retardation provided you import the fundamental principles that guarantee it reproduces itself in all its parts"
mircea_popescu: can't really get fatlogic without reddit, they're both enmeshed in and the necessary results of the same dumb.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 00:16 asciilifeform: so i have nfi what kind of imbecile would pay the ransom.
BingoBoingo: I like the title tag on new mpex.ws
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 22:37 pete_dushenski: bitch, what the fuck are used car parts doing in your mercados ?!
mircea_popescu: b) poor people spend more on the symbols of "wealth" such as a shitty chinese import than sane people would, as a proportion of their expenditure.
mircea_popescu: but economy has nothing to do with it. humongo traffic jams in ba mostly because a) everyone here drives like a confused miami senior citizen. they can't fucking merge.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512565 << they have some bike lanes. for as long as you're fine only going where they go (<1% of town or so, the retard reservation, "palermo") they're great.
mircea_popescu: also, 2009 wikileaks material, plox link http://wikileaks.info/wiki/Suppressed_video_of_Thai_Crown_Prince_and_Princess_at_decadent_dog_party/ rather than whatever useless bullshit
thestringpuller: what's with the evil government lab tv trope?
BingoBoingo: Yeah they did. When is his next concert?
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ThriftStoreHauls/comments/4vk73v/american_history_at_goodwill499_a_gift_from_the/ << in other Hastert
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512600 << bush girls would get party belligerent at smith point from time to time, main difference was that between bouncers and secret service, there's no way anybody was filming anything and still retained possession of device
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu fermat with 100,000 iter. / mod. (3518444 mods) ran to completion. found still just the 2.
BingoBoingo: lol they're going to find pete!
asciilifeform: http://www.pps.ru/?part=catalog&product=248 << their nonlinear junction detector catalogue appears to include one that goes up arse..
BingoBoingo: "Then use a gender neutral pronoun, it's not that hard." << BUT "it" is the gender neutral pronoun!
asciilifeform: so i have nfi what kind of imbecile would pay the ransom.
asciilifeform: the other thing is, pnoje is ~always backed up to 'cloud' etc., ~and~ has vendor reset mode that lets you reformat.
trinque: ah, thought I recalled a few that went right through the web browser
asciilifeform: is it motherfucking reddit ?!
mod6: SoBA due out tonight, usually it's already out, sorry for the delay.
pete_dushenski wonders who will play jtrudeau in inevitable biopic in 10 years. figures dwaynerock will still be pretty bankable then.
pete_dushenski: femayos only kamikaze in slow-motion, often over the course of several decades, so i'll have plenty of time to move saddam around the corner and out of her fat way.
pete_dushenski: https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2016/04/02/trudeau-yoga-pose-stories-pose-their-own-threat-teitel/trudeau-yoga.jpg << reference.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: um.. how does it not help my case ? living 'under' a metrosexual mockery of something useful is the definition of helping my case. what's trudeau gonna do, whip out yoga pose on me ?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: those t.o. gurls just wanna hang wif drake. they're wannabe groupies, which is suppose is a type of militantness all its own.
BingoBoingo: Canada not militant? Have you seen the crew cuts on Toronto's womyn?
BingoBoingo: What does the moment matter in threat modeling?
pete_dushenski: bitch, what the fuck are used car parts doing in your mercados ?!
pete_dushenski: there's no online link to the article that i could find, but one or two of the gems were "[some area] has been revitalising since 1980" and "the markets are incredibly diverse and sell everything from car parts to old records"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You just don't see yours coming because the headline will look like http://www.bnd.com/latest-news/article93018537.html#storylink=latest_side
pete_dushenski: in other lulz, there was article in local paper over the weekend about "bicycling paradise in the paris of the south : buenos aires"
pete_dushenski: isn't it incredibru how well-to-do smart people can still hold stupid opinions even within their own areas of expertise! but haooo!!!!
pete_dushenski: in other exquisitely refined contravex comments : "I find it fascinating that an otherwise intelligent person is unable to see the huge value of Facebook"
phf: ipad is the new linux on desktop!
pete_dushenski: the trend away from user meddling is pretty clear though
phf: i had that happen to me too by the way, it's my day to day 2011 macbook pro, and even the chassis got bent. all i had to do is order replacement battery and carefully apply a rubber mallet. good luck doing that on recent apple machine(tm)
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512272 << heh no wonder you try 10000001 devices, you put them through gulags and then wonder why they shrivel and die (not that this isn't an excellent darwinian weeding out test)
pete_dushenski: ut in general, they will kind of talk you up. But then when you get up to the same level or maybe even higher, they get in attack mode; they are maybe not as supportive. I kind of felt that this time."
pete_dushenski: "I was actually happy to see the Hit King get defensive. I kind of felt I was accepted. I heard that about five years ago Pete Rose did an interview, and he said that he wished that I could break that record. Obviously, this time around it was a different vibe. In the 16 years that I have been here, what I’ve noticed is that in America, when people feel like a person is below them, not just in numbers b
pete_dushenski: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-lonely-ballad-of-the-mobile-lounge << in other phork news, the mobile airport lounges that never quite (ahem) took off.
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently every chick in poland is named wiktoria
asciilifeform: just lyin' there
phf: i like how marlinspike's whisper is the secure alternative to telegram. every time i mention telegram in any tech venue there's always some clown going "use whisper instead telegram is insecure!!!", because in their heads whisper, running on a fully locked down platform, obviously is
asciilifeform: WHY are these jokers always so similar!?1
asciilifeform: ahahahaha mircea_popescu 'killed' boeck, so guess who gets to be the new boeck, https://www.wired.com/2016/07/meet-moxie-marlinspike-anarchist-bringing-encryption-us
ben_vulpes: ie9 is alive and well among the shoe-purchasing, web-surfing population
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 21:09 mircea_popescu: if the trend of "smart phones for stupid people" continues a few years, banning mobiles from one's site will become a very respectable heuristic to ensure quality discussion.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512482 << recall when there was briefly a fashion for banning obvious microshit victims from one's site ?
asciilifeform: i suspect they are penile-compatible!
mircea_popescu: these days i answer most emails with my penis.
mircea_popescu: the lord is mightly angry.
mircea_popescu: one day all the various dissonances will resolve spontaneously inside alf and the result will be audible
mircea_popescu: dude keeps derping about his ancient vintage quality kbd, then goes and fucks around on ipad "no feedback" glass jar.
hanbot: mircea_popescu is faking user agent beyond the ken of "stupid people"? moreover, there'll just be a mobile app for "not being mobile", what's this banning gonna achieve.
ben_vulpes: gboard mitigates the horrendity.
asciilifeform: 'to prevent apps from eating the battery'
mircea_popescu: iirc apple still hasn't figured out the wonder of multitasking.
phf: asciilifeform: it's the weekly selection of article titles that are so dumb, there's no point in reading any further. content of article is literal elaboration of the title
mircea_popescu: if the trend of "smart phones for stupid people" continues a few years, banning mobiles from one's site will become a very respectable heuristic to ensure quality discussion.
mircea_popescu: so they're stuck dicking around on capacitive displays
mircea_popescu: by now most of the cattle has been pushed out of the actual computing market through simple attrition - they can;t afford $500 for a computer, nor understand why it'd be useful, and the "smart" p[honme was free with their plan.
phf: "iPad-only is the new desktop Linux ios medium.com"
phf: trinque: it's truncated from the original, so i agree with asciilifeform or mircea_popescu it's either a very very lame hacking "attempt" or a troll
trinque: god, nsa has the same copypasta problems as any large american software firm!
trinque: no URL there
asciilifeform: they both show in public collections of old 0days, so prolly not