mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i expect she's just comparing to blockchain.info or w/e other webwallet
asciilifeform: ( if it's the former, this is not in any sense a problem, you can still operate )
a111: Logged on 2019-07-16 10:44 girlattorney: hi, thanks for voice, i'm here to ask about trb. Installed it on my PC, and after 28 days almost synced. Then it happens the following: when TRB is almost at the current height (as now, 585,647), it stays back a few blocks, like now that is at 585640, and just cannot catch the latests blocks
mp_en_viaje: there's probably some room for optimization wrt disk usage ; but that's rather wating for the more comprehensive trb-fs thing
mp_en_viaje: holy hell what, wtf "crusoe social philosophy" is that supposed to be! even with no sun, the gas would still be trapped by gravity, thus there'd still be a pressure, thus there'd still be a temperature, wtf "absolute zero". atmospheric pressure is trivially given by the ~height~ of air column, not by the fucking temperature holy hell these people.
mp_en_viaje: in other sads, i'm reading internet "science" : "If there were no Sun (or other external energy source) atmospheric temperature would approach absolute zero. As a result there would be almost no atmospheric pressure on any planet -> PV = nRT."
mp_en_viaje: and in other lines, what's a girl attorney's life like ?
mp_en_viaje: sion, demonstrating what the usg thought at the time a viable avenue of attack, that i had to spend an inordinate amt of slave time and assorted resources to bolt shut for them, and so following.)
mp_en_viaje: (the whole "power rangers" thing started with an event in 2013, when some usg agents masquerading as bitcoin developers (mike hearn, etc) wilfully introduced a bug which split the network while the other morons (wuile, maxwell, etc) failed to notice. the thing had to be undone through miner collu
mp_en_viaje: (prb is the name given to the one remaining group of scammers masquerading as bitcoin developers, in memory of their "power rangers" heritage. numerous others have meanwhile discontinued, too many to merit enumeration.)
girlattorney: btw i'm very grateful that still exist a client without segwit and without other useless crap. so glad to be able to almost sync it
girlattorney: tried to read them, but I haven't found a significant keyword to search with this specific topic.
mp_en_viaje: there's years of discussion about this scattered through the logs ; have you found the logs yet ?
mp_en_viaje: the problem is deeper than just the user agent ; fake bitcoin nodes send out all sorts of spam and otherwise misbehave. it's not possible to meaningfully communicate with one automatically, it requires skilled human hands.
girlattorney: if it's just an ip + port it can be a "fake" node. What interest me is the fact that TRB seems to ignore the nodes with a user agent different than "therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88". I even tried to just have a "addnode=*corenode" and in some odd way it finds a way to communicate only with the TRB nodes
mp_en_viaje: well, for you there's then no answer to the "how do trb nodes get blocks" question you had.
mp_en_viaje: the bitnode notion of a node is about the same as the electoral notion of a "voter" : meaningful for just as long nobody gives a shit. then it's all "m00t won time's man of the year".
mp_en_viaje: consider it from the other pov : if tomorrow the aliens land, do yo uthen say "the aliens are... well... three guys" ? just because three guys are all the aliens can be bothered t oshow you does not mean "that's all there is"
mp_en_viaje: girlattorney, your notion of identity is not adequate for the situation you're dealing with.
girlattorney: so if only these nodes are interacting with themselves, where they fetch the blocks from?
girlattorney: ok i'm gonna wait. I'm just interested in what happens with TRB nodes: with a public site that list public nodes (with 8333 port exposed, site is bitnodes dot something), i checked and it says that there are 8 TRB nodes.
girlattorney: btw i noticed that trb only connects and fetch blocks from other trbs, so i don't get what happens with the other core nodes
mp_en_viaje: this is actually not what should be happening ; if you stick around there'll prolly be a barage of questions as asciilifeform trinque mod6 & all wake up.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/%d0%a3%d1%81%d1%85%d0%be%d0%b4%d0%bd%d1%96%d1%8f-%d0%bc%d0%be%d0%b3%d1%96%d0%bb%d0%ba%d1%96-%d0%9c%d0%b0%d1%81%d0%ba%d0%be%d1%9e%d1%81%d0%ba%d1%96-%d0%9c%d1%96%d0%bd%d1%81%d0%ba-aka-the-eastern-cem/ << Trilema -- (, ) aka The Eastern Cemetery (Maskowskaya, Minsk)
girlattorney: i don't get why just the latest blocks are soooo slow to fetch
mp_en_viaje: (which would be the "latest" trb, though obviously v-trees are a little different from traditional notions of latestness)
girlattorney: latest trb (currently available on thebitcoin.foundation) installed on debian 8
girlattorney: hi, thanks for voice, i'm here to ask about trb. Installed it on my PC, and after 28 days almost synced. Then it happens the following: when TRB is almost at the current height (as now, 585,647), it stays back a few blocks, like now that is at 585640, and just cannot catch the latests blocks
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: lolz; if I didn't get them out at 9, no chance now; neah, they are my sleep-deprivation indicator simply, lol
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, you getting them out /
BingoBoingo: In pseudo local news, ebola is creeping up on the Uruguayo Army's base in Africa https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Un-caso-de-ebola-en-Goma--Ejercito-Uruguayo-tiene-tomadas-todas-las-medidas--uc724259
asciilifeform still recovering from 6+wk saecular crapola shitfest, setting to get conveyor moving, publish plans, etc. it's rather like waking up from coma.
diana_coman: it sucks; because I suspect the most common questions will be the same and I'd very much prefer to point them to the log
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: apol. for the comment spam, i misplaced a decimal point.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-5-signs-your-child-is-a-psychopath-according-to-the-nyt-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - 5 Signs Your Child Is a Psychopath, According To The NYT. Adnotated.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-51m-vioxx-verdict-overturned-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - $51M Vioxx Verdict Overturned. Adnotated.
diana_coman: come to think about it, there is some weirdness there: the source tarballs are relegated to this "distfiles" dir but at the same time, patches to apply to those are considered part of the ebuild; what's the logic there - patches are code-er than the rest or what
diana_coman: that was my initial expectation really but I suppose it's sheer size or something - the genesis is 4.6M as it is (ebuilds only)
mp_en_viaje: include the damned things.
diana_coman: see above my trouble with mysql - it's not as much the "ebuild" that is missing but rather the whole darned tarball from all the URIs that the ebuild knows about
diana_coman: to me it seems that there should be a tmsr repo with the tarballs (aka contents of /cuntoo/distfiles) but then all the ebuilds in genesis need updated too
diana_coman: trinque: from what I see though the genesis.vpatch is a snapshot of /cuntoo/portage dir *only* which means that the actual tarballs with the code are not included anyway - so basically it will still fail to find them as soon as whatever URI in the ebuild doesn't host them anymore, what am I missing?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-50-of-american-kids-receive-food-stamps-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - 50% of American Kids Receive Food Stamps. Adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: soo... there's a picture somewhere on trilema obliquely included. it depicts a standing older naked "black" female, in front of a derelict suburban home, with some other debris about, maybe a dead bbq set. white walls, a sad lawn. evidently google van captured footage.
trinque: diana_coman: congrats. the next step would be to produce a vpatch which adds your curl ebuild atop the genesis.vpatch the bootstrapper produced.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-4-unintended-consequences-of-seroquels-adjunct-to-antidepressants-indication-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - 4 Unintended Consequences of Seroquel's Adjunct to Antidepressants Indication. Adnotated.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-4-easy-steps-towards-weight-loss-that-arent-drugs-diets-or-excersise-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - 4 Easy Steps Towards Weight Loss That Aren't Drugs, Diets, Or Excersise. Adnotated.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-3-media-narratives-about-the-middle-east-you-should-defend-against-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - 3 Media Narratives About The Middle East You Should Defend Against. Adnotated.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-3-important-things-about-the-new-wikileaks-controversy-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - 3 Important Things About The New Wikileaks Controversy. Adnotated.
BingoBoingo: The working bum that doesn't even sleep on the street anymore ended up getting a chunk of "Colita de Cuadril" to show the kids he's less of a loser than he was last year.
BingoBoingo: In hereto undocumented local lulz, today is the local version of father's day. This means during my walking around town starting yesterday afternoon the local dumb asks changed from "una moneda para comer algo" to "por favor, puedes traerme algo de carne por mis hijos. Tengo X hijos y quiero darles algo""
a111: Logged on 2019-07-14 09:37 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, in potential lulz fodder : http://archive.is/BNT9w#selection-7155.0-7159.371 (true) http://archive.is/BNT9w#selection-4826.1-4841.97 (also true), with the destructuring of the dnc lotta lulz seeping out of the corpse of us democrat party like puss from wet gangrene.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-14#1922418 << ty, there sure seems to be a substantial amount of weeping lulz coming out of the cracks there
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-1-in-5-cars-has-a-personality-disorder-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - 1 In 5 Cars Has A Personality Disorder. Adnotated.
diana_coman: I don't know; the guys were also not keen on getting rid of garbage as maybe getting a bigger pile of garbage for themselves.
diana_coman: sounds quite close to the "making my own outsourcing comp" type I knew in Bucharest too: not keen as much on getting rid of garbage, as maybe riding it to "money"
mp_en_viaje: girl's smart enough, but too scrawny for my interest, and so... on the tailings pile she goes...
mp_en_viaje: the idiots is the way to go) and then make a product corp that makes its own product!!!
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, in other lulz, nicole dredged up local blondy ex-mech engineer turned java developer (sorry mocky, chick never heard of you). she intends to start her out outsourcing comp (because hates working with idiots ; yet if challenged "what you gonna do when rich ?" she wants to come up with some garbage sorting solution, because idiots do ~nothing but produce garbage and she doesn't understand the beheadingof
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for folx innocent of microshit 'ecosystem', there are 9000 such 'surprises', no barf bucket, no matter how deep, will ever suffice
diana_coman: the sort of "this is the frozen thing I'm using for lack of anything better" sig rather than "this thing I read and know inside out" sig
diana_coman: well, I just checked and I still have that ebuild on smg test so I'll do the dance with that; I suppose I might just as well sign it afterwards and that's that
diana_coman: so now I suppose I'll have to grab the ebuild from smg test and use that, wtf
diana_coman: in other annoying stuff: apparently the mysql ebuild I forced into use on smg test server meanwhile vanished from gentoo repos to the extent that my shiny new cuntoo just can't find it??
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re rdp -- this is not only troo but is how microshit sells their winblowz 'server', 'have >2 !'
diana_coman: there is at least one from dev.to that made it to comment on my blog at least so possibly dipped his toe a bit further but at each step it's like "oh, this is interesting" "so come and talk" "..."
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in wtf lulz, "Windows servers have a maximum of two RDP sessions and one console session available, unless the server has been licensed for use as a terminal server. Leaving two disconnected RDP sessions on the server effectively blocks anyone else from connecting to the server via RDP."
diana_coman: well, just had the "millisecond-checkout" behaviour in #ossasepia too; what exactly are they afraid of anyway?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/christos-ballas-tlp-thelastpsychiatristcom-archive/ << Trilema -- Christos Ballas ("TLP", thel...com) archive
a111: Logged on 2019-07-14 09:01 mp_en_viaje: no point in backlinging / editing the post.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-14#1922408 <-- I was thinking about it along the lines of "I'ma emulate the trackback by manually editing the post". but I can see your point; I'll need to at least change the post structure of my blogotron so that comments and trackbacks go below, as a continuation of what was said inside the post itself.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, in potential lulz fodder : http://archive.is/BNT9w#selection-7155.0-7159.371 (true) http://archive.is/BNT9w#selection-4826.1-4841.97 (also true), with the destructuring of the dnc lotta lulz seeping out of the corpse of us democrat party like puss from wet gangrene.
mp_en_viaje: the shitheads he links, too. anything as long as collectivism pure pantsuit retardation, holy hell.
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/tlpimages/images/ << complete tlp article image list (temporary, ima take this down once i'm done, i intend to use better-same illustrations for his articles, what the fuck is this sad stamp)
mp_en_viaje: i guess that's prolly the best way to go.
mp_en_viaje: re tlp, also got the images ("Downloaded: 953 files, 30M in 7.0s (4.35 MB/s)"), and that's ~all im gonna get. dunno what to do with the material yet, maybe i start a tlp site review project.
mp_en_viaje: don't you wanna see what crazy batshit unexpected but perhaps kinda cool use some other maniac put your own tools to ?
mp_en_viaje: the one most fascinating property of tools is their being the one bridge available between reals and ideals : theyr'e real objects with an ideal component! therefore, we theoretically predict the sluttery immanent to reality permits perversion, and phenomenology confirms : tools can in fact be used for purposes other than they were intended to!
mp_en_viaje: trackbacks also offer another important function : if we believe that human intelligence principally manifests in the creation of tools ; and if we believe human expression is not orthogonal to intelligence, then we thereby also believe our expression is in part tool.
mp_en_viaje: trackbacks offer you some measure of control over this "being drafted to vouch for others' idiocy" process ; because you can go check ; and if need be say "motherfucker, that's not what i'm saying at fucking all"
mp_en_viaje: the point is this : if someone says something, and then links you, odds are he's saying something like "this guy also confirms".
mp_en_viaje: no point in backlinging / editing the post.
spyked: and in other short updates, I'm just back from a trip to maramures. I now have cca 10G of photos to sift through and some documenting/ranting work to do, gotta add it to the list.
spyked: re tlp: at some point /me found a torrent of the tlp archive, only to discover it was a microshit word document. it wasn't really salvageable, so I threw it out the window.
spyked: aite. hm. I guess for now I'ma have to backlink manually by editing the post.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, you got linked from http://trilema.com/2019/continuing-with-the-reflective-history-of-the-republican-forum-still-on-logday-659-year-6-dtr/#selection-1575.0-1579.40 ; feel free to protest
mp_en_viaje: sending is one thing ; but getting is the bigger deal in my own experience.
spyked: mp_en_viaje, receiving trackbacks doesn't work yet, I have some scripts for sending them that I run once in a while. the plan is to make it a proper blog with comments and trackbacks, after I'm done stealing the cl www stack
mp_en_viaje: so since thelastpsychiatrist.com went all fucking stupid (cloudflare aside, and mountain of pointless js aside, there's a spurious 1min delay before any pageload also now!), i scraped the article list both from archive page and category page, and downloaded the list.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/minsk-nightlife-or-the-orphans-strip-clubs/ << Trilema -- Minsk nightlife, or The orphans' strip clubs
BingoBoingo could add the charts in, but they don't seem to add anything the text description of the charts doesn't describe in intimate detail.
BingoBoingo: "The IPCC climate sensitivity is about one order of magnitude too high, because a strong negative feedback of the clouds is missing in climate models. If we pay attention to the fact that only a small part of the increased CO 2 concentration is anthropogenic, we have to recognize that the anthropogenic climate change does not exist in practice."
a111: Logged on 2019-07-13 15:32 mp_en_viaje: and it's not about money, either, it's about everything. it's my experience (and for that matter all domain experience i know of, eg i bet diana_coman can readily confirm re "crystal space") that this approach is the principal driver of imperial complexityballs.
BingoBoingo: I don't see it in their math either. Adding what they report for the meat gets it closer, but still not quite.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, maybe it's because i'm new at this whole math thing, but 246 / kg aka 246k / ton in no combination i can think of yields 1.2 millions out of the qtys described.
BingoBoingo: Farm itself has one of the locally popular JQuery and fotos websites that doesn't work https://archive.is/11vmU
mp_en_viaje: if you reserve judiciously, such that you genuinely have the reserve you propose, an auction not closing will still result in your getting the fiat via the mechanism you used to calculate the reserve. gets all the cogs going nicely, and interoperating meaningfully.
mp_en_viaje: if what's happening is that you don't want auctions over 1k because you suspect settlement doesn't work over 1k because you suspect most settlement will be wu and wu won't work over 1k, that's fine, make 9xx auctions or w/e for this reason, either weekly or biweekly as convenient.
mp_en_viaje: and it's not about money, either, it's about everything. it's my experience (and for that matter all domain experience i know of, eg i bet diana_coman can readily confirm re "crystal space") that this approach is the principal driver of imperial complexityballs.
mp_en_viaje: nball built out of trying to meaningfully resolve the "what's an x-Q" constructed nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, http://bingology.net/2019/07/13/forward-looking-statement-week-28-2019-the-auctions-thing/#selection-175.0-175.110 << this "just for x, just for y" approach is not useful. that you may need x and that Q may have available y is NOT a reason to invent a x.Q and x.nQ subdivision of x. x is to be divided by x criteria not by Q criteria, or else you end up with an unmanageable and ever growing cognitive yar
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/07/13/forward-looking-statement-week-28-2019-the-auctions-thing/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Forward Looking Statement Week 28 2019 - The Auctions Thing
mp_en_viaje: anyway, 1998 google worked because early version of "ai plays go", their pr thing where you iterate the links over a net, thing converges to values.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i recall this discussion back in the 2014 days, you were like "oh, still works for obscure error messages". stopped "working" even for that, huh.
asciilifeform: '1998 google worked' but strictly because a) noise was moderate and relatively easy to filter b) signal was actually there. 'master magician can pull rabit out of hat, but only if the rabbit is in fact inside the hat' .
asciilifeform: i dun recall in what specific piece mp_en_viaje made this argument, but i buy it -- 'high quality www search was always illusion'. i.e. even if google et al did not actively fuck the outputs, even so 'pray tell mr babbage, if i feed into the machine a net fulla shit, will quality sites emerge from the search engine'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-12#1922350 << it's detectably deader now than was even month ago. in the midst of heathen scutwork, had to extensively dig for eggogs, with google et al, and good 20-30% of the 'hits' are nao openly shannonized linkfarms with domains in the style of rfejgiigetzg.info etc and packed fulla spamola. i.e. full-bore reversion to state of art circa 1997 or so
a111: Logged on 2019-07-12 14:18 mp_en_viaje: the websearch is dead, pure and simple. is there something we can do about it ?
diana_coman: ah, the word-rot running out of words, myeah
BingoBoingo: Adjective abuse. Awesome and Great don't mean anything anymore so they gotta stretch.
diana_coman: well, to what extent is there webcontent outside of logs really (which have search, no?)
mp_en_viaje: and so on in this vein, calling it 0 relevancy would be misleading in suggesting there's some kind of relation even fucking possible. there isn't, the whole thing's self-spun.
mp_en_viaje: "Mexican women cricketers pushing boundaries... and scoring them" on fucking Al Jazeera ?! why do they lie, it's buzzfeed, it's not al-anything.
mp_en_viaje: spoiler, tabacon is the shittiest venue in the whole fucking country, i spent a total of ten minutes there watching them be us-level moronic. out of the ~four digit~ hours i spent in costa rican venues to date, that item is easily in the botom 10% of the list.
mp_en_viaje: "I Got a Beer Spa Treatment, and It Was Transcendent Food & Wine|4 days ago When I first received the invite to check out the new beer-infused body treatment at Costa Rica's Tabacon Thermal Resort & Spa,"
mp_en_viaje: 'A citizen of the world': NASA's first Latino astronaut reflects on how space changed his immigrant identity - Washington Post|3 hours ago - About US is a new initiative by The Washington Post to cover issues of identity in the United States. While the American memory of the Space Race is most often filtered through black-and-white ...
mp_en_viaje: not that it's directed, either. consider, randomly picking, a search for news from costa rica : http://archive.is/Uwh5N
mp_en_viaje: and continuing on that lulz : you know what's missing from this list of obscura ? ANY republican logger whatsoever. websites that were last loaded in 2016, yes. the ~only thing actually happening in the whole friggin' world ? awww.
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2019/continuing-with-the-reflective-history-of-the-republican-forum-still-on-logday-659-year-6-dtr << meanwhile did the whole thing / "finished", if anyone still cares.
mp_en_viaje: why would "an open source project" be doing the deed ? hm ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 18:26 mircea_popescu: <milky25> Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 22:29 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : femen, the "ukrainian" organisation is selling shit priced in dollars via 2checkout.com, the columbus ohio us corp.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380 slash http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839537 lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/N2UQY/?raw=true
lobbes_field: This on the grounds that a) after reading the various cuntoo ebuild threads, it isn't clear to me that pythonisms are actually not needed and b) I actually know python/php, whereas I do not know cl
lobbes_field: Relatedly, I'm thinking that once I produce the mod_lisp vpatch, I may just leave the rest of the cl-www project to spyked, while I instead work on a 'python/php www kit.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-11 14:22 diana_coman: spyked: I pressed the logbot to logbot_command_router_python_genesis.vpatch - at a quick look it seems to me that it contains the core but not the web-publishing glue, am I missing something?
lobbes_field: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-11#1922319 << currently there exists no logotron web publishing glue. spyked is currently making headway on the 'cl-www kit' tho >> http://www.thetarpit.org/posts/y05/095-cl-who-ii.html
BingoBoingo: Forward looking Prelude to Forward looking statement: I plan to be finished producing it tomorrow afternoon. Weekly auctions are looking like the trick to put our fiat reserve to work on auctions, because with Bitcoin climbing its become a sort of albatross just passively sitting as an "Oh shit fund" and depreciating.
a111: Logged on 2014-01-31 17:06 benkay: i just want a robot that follows me to the grocery store and back
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-31#470155 << amusingly, herem is ~this : shoppingbot, follows you around grocery store, carries bags home, then buys accordingly from then on.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> that's ok, personal struggle is the most important part of achievement. << This is true
diana_coman: spyked: I pressed the logbot to logbot_command_router_python_genesis.vpatch - at a quick look it seems to me that it contains the core but not the web-publishing glue, am I missing something?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/continuing-with-the-reflective-history-of-the-republican-forum-still-on-logday-659-year-6-dtr/ << Trilema -- Continuing with the reflective history of the republican forum -- still on logday 659 (year 6 d.Tr.)
mp_en_viaje: there's no innate talent anyway.
mp_en_viaje: that's ok, personal struggle is the most important part of achievement.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-barbarian-horde-presents-girandole-alfright-o/ << Trilema -- The Barbarian Horde presents : Girandole Al'fright-o!
mp_en_viaje: merely there as placeholder example.
asciilifeform: ( interestingly -- there is no Official fatwa against benjies in mail, afaik . simply not +ev, as it is )
mp_en_viaje: i confess the last time i mailed anything hillary clinton still looked like she could turn her life around and become the slutty hottie genetics were proposing all along.
mp_en_viaje: and every single step of the way of them cows coming home === the building of the republican stairwell. cuz how the fuck else.
mp_en_viaje: no what it is, maybe it's worth measuring, if under 5% ie 20/400 maybe worth doing" and so on and so forth till the cows come home
mp_en_viaje: list your problems, fucking enumerate their solutions, measure the costs, that's what the fuck rational activity even is! "doing weekly smaller auctions would improve participation and cut down friction costs and our fx risks, but it would introduce transfer costs -- western union / moneygram are like 20 bux per + nwo they get to build their own experimental scheme of my wot ; cash in mail has a failure rate, i dun
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-10#1922263 << I'll sit down at the math table and put together a more literate, forward looking dispatch. Thank you for carrying the stick.
mp_en_viaje: well, the belarussians appreciate korean foods, what can i say. you can buy home-made kimchi from the market here.
diana_coman: as long as the smoked eel doesn't suffer...
diana_coman: heh; the pickled mushrooms thing is one where I gave in and made my own after 6 years+ of trying every possible thing they have in the west by that name
mp_en_viaje: i;m a stay at home master, the girls are out working the streets, perhaps ima start on a nice pasta in white sauce thing so it's ready by the time they're back home.
mp_en_viaje: my strong mood's kinda weak, tbh. i just opened the fridge and it smells so very eastern european, between the dozen types of pickled mushrooms... i even have kimchi! and smoked eel and whatnot.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, yeah, i was thinking earlier, line length may actually be the best proxy available for group cohesion. back then, a lotta randos talking a lotta useless shit.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-10 08:21 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile archive.is started importing a metric shitton of yandex-hosted javascript, most of which is broken. what the fuck is wrong with people ;/
a111: Logged on 2014-01-31 01:02 mircea_popescu: it's a sad time we live in when the close minded burgeois scares the revolutionary artists.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-31#468835 << in other lulz, 2014 logs are... so fucking weird. 25k words a day for one thing ; five word lines 0n average for the other.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-business-and-the-fantasy/ << Trilema -- The business ; and the fantasy
mp_en_viaje: eh, ima just write the article
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile archive.is started importing a metric shitton of yandex-hosted javascript, most of which is broken. what the fuck is wrong with people ;/
mp_en_viaje: one, mocky won't have to "wait ten days for me") and d) can readily answer questions like that from me, because either your 3300 looks more like $450 and holy shit help or else it looks more like $4500 and plox take some cash off of me.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 11:33 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo how's the status, are you rather short or rather long dubaloo liquidity ?
mp_en_viaje: an arrangement like this was the implicit counterparty to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917494 inquiry. the idea behind it is that if a) you need 3k each quarter and $800 each month (random numbers, whatever) and b) you figured out this sums to 22l year and you want to at all times sit on 15% of that ie 3300 for safety then c) you're running weekly auctions for about $400 (which is very accessible for every
mp_en_viaje: moreover, if the price swings too fast for you, something like this is the only available save ; and it has to be weekly because you clearly don't have the infrastructure to handle daily.
mp_en_viaje: nd so day, clear out your schedule" utter failure, resulting in the predictable "waah, nobody reads my thing".
a111: Logged on 2019-07-09 16:58 BingoBoingo: Anyways, thinking on how the exchange rate is moving at a more lively clip... Would it make sense to shorten the duration of the auction for the larger Datacenter parcel? Auction opens the 8th between 0:01 and 1:30 UTC and 25 or 26 hours later on the 9th, and keep doing that month after month.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922203 << you could conceivably take the step of separating your need and your behaviour. sum up what you need per year, divide it by 52, take yourself whatever margin you feel like / judge adequate, and announce a regular weekly auction period. "they start at noon gmt each wed and close at 10am each thurs" or w/e such a thing. and then STICK TO IT!!!! unlike the "i publish on so a
mp_en_viaje: by the exact same logic, amerigo vespucci can't get to america to have it named after himself -- because lacking a passport issued by the femgendered king of tenochtitlan, he can't reproduce the described and pre-occurring voyage of columbus. sorry amerigo, we're gonna have to call america something else now.
mp_en_viaje: c) that "theoretical involvement" works through a purely arbitrary tower of chairs sort of arrangement, very much like the well documented pshycological defense of splitting (for the obvious reason). this is important to protect the theoretical involvement from deductive callenges.
mp_en_viaje: b) it's practically irrelevant but theoretically involved (the practical irrelevance is important to protect the theoretical involvement from empirical challenges) ;
mp_en_viaje: (compare and contrast ballas' "manhood card reissued" article, which obviously i can't find, with either <a href=http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/>type A</a> or <a href=http://trilema.com/2017/the-universal-plan-for-wealth/>type B</a> actual manhood cards) ;
a111: Logged on 2019-07-09 15:02 PeterL: asciilifeform: how does the type of passport affect the ability to join in auction?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922170 << it satisfies the pillars of asciilifeform 's impotence-protecting thought pattern : a) it's issued through some nebulous, uncontrollable process by some distant and faceless substitute-to-authority
mp_en_viaje: the experience of the past is there to inform the future, not to reformulate the past, we're not the pantsuit here.
mp_en_viaje: there's just not this thing where we walk back in time and "adjust"
mp_en_viaje: jurov, eh, come on. can't just arbitrarily undo auctions because not like the result.
Mocky: I don't expect to have enough to bid on the datacenter auction for august but I do for sept
Mocky: i would have bid up to 12 in order to win the auction. but in any case two bidders are not much of a market when one presumably has the dollars today but only bids up to 2/3 and the other will bid up to 3/3 but is liek, 'can i bid today and pay 10 days hence?'
BingoBoingo: jurov: The problem I find myself in at this time, is that the time to spec the auction that way is when opening it.
jurov: Surely you can do the "making bank" better, go for it.
jurov: Better option than shortening the time imo.
jurov: BingoBoingo: but the auction isn't set in stone, nobody (surely not me) would bat an eye if you canceled and redid it at different price
diana_coman is catching up with the log
a111: Logged on 2019-07-09 14:25 asciilifeform: ( could, e.g. spyked ? diana_coman ? all you need is a free world passport, and rake in the dough )
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922167 -> uhm, raking in dough at the expense of pizarro and its customers doesn't strike me as desirable and the alternative is essentially to do the financier part for pizarro which doesn't strike me as very healthy either.
BingoBoingo: Next month's auction will have the reserve applied, unless asciilifeform and mod6 both vigorously object
mp_en_viaje: the implicit margin would be "when bitcoin was trading at 12 we were selling at 9 [and therefore buying at 15]". 9-15 spread means no less than 66% spread, this is not even a thing, like saying open circuits are "practically closed".
mp_en_viaje: however, if the gap is absurdly wide -- and yes, 33% on ONE SIDE amply qualifies for absurdly wide -- you can't very well say that, because the reality simply can't be that.
mp_en_viaje: re the iffy above : if the gap is relatively narrow, you can very well tell the customer, "looksy, i dun so much care what you read on the internet, the reality is this and if you don't like it -- do something".
mp_en_viaje: if you don't want to do that, you'll have to judiciously use the reserve ; and in order to be able to do this, you must ACTUALLY HAVE that reserve, through having your own network of corresponding financiers.
mp_en_viaje: then the 12-9 difference has to go on your books, as such. "this month, we spent 0.11 btc on incentivizing the lazy and inept cloud of hanger ons so maybe they galvanize into some kind of economically useful activity"
mp_en_viaje: now : ~if~, and this is a big if and something that needs specific management decision, you as a corp decide to carry the cost of inefficiency, so as to sponsor into existence a market,
BingoBoingo: It was a wondering if the unfixable former was contributing to the later, but I'll leave that to its own pile.
mp_en_viaje: for this reason they shouldn't be comingled into one pile.
mp_en_viaje: they're not the fucking same thing at all ; the former's unfixable while the latter's intolerable.
mp_en_viaje: however, there's also the market inefficiency fx risk, where on the fucking day your auction closed, your auction traded at 9 and the other market traded at 12.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, there's two separate issues here. one is the implicit fx risk -- if you're stuck paying suppliers on say 5th and sell your product on 28th the exchange rate may move and you could find yourself in this situation where you bought items with btc at 9 and sold them with btc at 12.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, thinking on how the exchange rate is moving at a more lively clip... Would it make sense to shorten the duration of the auction for the larger Datacenter parcel? Auction opens the 8th between 0:01 and 1:30 UTC and 25 or 26 hours later on the 9th, and keep doing that month after month.
mp_en_viaje: it's another thing if you end up trading at prices from jun 1th on july 9th
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, one possible approach here is to set yourself a hook-up irl, and then put the auction in at THAT price.
BingoBoingo: I will be making rounds this month seeing who are the conduits that keep the latest crop of Venezolana's granparents from starving in old country.
mp_en_viaje: but hey -- at least sitting on ass for a year and not making any contacts on local bitcoins resulted in local bitcoins finally closing down, and so now we don't need to make excuses for why no contacts doing the p2p thing -- "there is nowhere" etc.
mp_en_viaje: i rather suspect we're just sitting on ass waiting for "things to happen", and have not in fact talked to EVERY SINGLE STREET TRADER / supermarket / etcetera.
mp_en_viaje: i somehow doubt the foregoing, seeing how i had no problem dealing in whatever fiats i felt like by the wheelbarrow not so long ago ; both through the chinese financial support of their supermarket trade and through local money exchangers in the streets etc.
mp_en_viaje: the idea being, nobody trades bitcoin for fiat in uruguay, we know this for having looked ; and nobody trades bitcoin for fiat in buenos aires, either, we also know this for having looked, because the fiddy bux it costs to cross the river goes into the gap many many times over.
BingoBoingo: What especially worries me is that the 500 USD parcel came in under 10k USD/BTC as well http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922130
a111: Logged on 2019-07-09 14:19 mp_en_viaje: we're talking 2/3 sorta margins here, i dunno if it's obvious, but merely 6% or so was enough for me to set the bozo bit on all of fucking norway.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922162 << Last month I set the starting price on the big auction close to the reported rate and Jurov came through. This month I read noise in the channel about people wanting opportunities to buy more BTC, and I erred opening bidding on the parcel too low.
asciilifeform: PeterL: inside reich, heathen exch houses such that you'd actually want to deal with, are extinct. whereas ones outside generally won't deal with zeks from inside.
asciilifeform: PeterL: thrd was re arbitrage of gap b/w piz & heathen rates
asciilifeform: ( could, e.g. spyked ? diana_coman ? all you need is a free world passport, and rake in the dough )
asciilifeform: fair'nuff, i do not know the detail, or why not worked
mp_en_viaje: we're talking 2/3 sorta margins here, i dunno if it's obvious, but merely 6% or so was enough for me to set the bozo bit on all of fucking norway.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-09 07:41 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922133 << isn't this WAY under the ~13k the coin trades for irl ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922152 << it does seem like there's a gaping hole that someone who lives where can easily use heathen exchange houses, could fill, 'buy cheap, sell dear'
a111: Logged on 2019-07-09 02:35 Mocky: fyi to mocky.org readers: blog will be in a sad state for a bit but functional. images not fitting page size, most old comments refused to import, will need to write a script to dump them in one at a time. I'm putting the old content of mocky.org at mockyhabeeb.com for reference until everything is back in place
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922151 << if you dig through mp-wp guts there's a means to auto-adjust image size to order for a batch of images. the uploader uses it.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922133 << isn't this WAY under the ~13k the coin trades for irl ?
Mocky: fyi to mocky.org readers: blog will be in a sad state for a bit but functional. images not fitting page size, most old comments refused to import, will need to write a script to dump them in one at a time. I'm putting the old content of mocky.org at mockyhabeeb.com for reference until everything is back in place
Mocky: i bet the images never migrated at all, only pointed to exiting img folder, hmm. i can replace it for now
Mocky: ok seems like everything worked except the images
BingoBoingo: When do you want to do the switchover?
BingoBoingo: Mocky: That would probably work. Otherwise I could change your apache vhost file to use the wwhabeeb directory as its root
Mocky: I was thinking I could just swap the contents of 'www' and 'wwwhabeeb'
Mocky: BingoBoingo: I have my blog posts migrated over to the mp-wp you set up for me on UY1, I want to switch over and have mocky.org served from there. What's a good way to do that?
Mocky: BingoBoingo: looks good. I'll update you on when these will be sent. 19th at the latest, maybe sooner
BingoBoingo probably going to have to narrow the gar between the datacenter parcel and heathen rate again next month.
BingoBoingo: Before the 20th is fine, later than the 20th would induce some anxiety, later than the 25th still more, and the very last day of the month would induce serious question regarding bidding motives
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/07/08/the-rocky-moon-notes-on-graphics-for-eulora-ii/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Rocky Moon (Notes on Graphics for Eulora, II)
asciilifeform: who wants to try, tho, can , dun need any fancy tooling, build with yasm/fasm/nasm/prolly others
asciilifeform: atm this proggy does ~not~ write to the disk -- all state is lost when switched off.
asciilifeform: linux, interestingly, seems to spend good % of its boot cycles in the calculation of 'bogomips.' if subtracting this, thing boot in coupla 100 msec. (as is, approx 8sec, on my irons)
asciilifeform: 'bogomips' figure will be same errywhere, as there is no iron timer simulated yet, the faux timer is simply 'erry N instr. ticks'
asciilifeform: the reason why posted, is that theoretically this is enuff to start the cuntoo port. supposing anyone finds himself with a free hand.