asciilifeform: and no you don't need a hd in there
mircea_popescu: seems ~the only liable to be productive way forward is offering rewards for stolen originals.
trinque: upon which it cycles back through the boot process
trinque: but then the gizmo is not halted, right? it's asking me to press any key "to exit keypad test"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta also think about the fact that sb700 is EXTRAORDINARILY unusual in that we have chip docs at all for it.
mircea_popescu: (this being WHY they publish in the fucking crud in the first place, of course. pdf, enemy of humanity in every which way already.)
mircea_popescu: so the notion of pigging the spam is not entirely without merit ; impossible as it may be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it seems highly unlikely that any usg.* matter will be usable verbatim anyway. we will have to maintain our own, ~correctable~ versions of their manuals anyway.
asciilifeform: trinque: did you try the resets as i described here ?
asciilifeform: nobody knows what amd generated these with. could've been msword for all i know. could've been motherfucking quark express. but in any case all they published (WHEN they published anything) is pdf.
trinque: asciilifeform: so far always receiving E64 when I load gdbinit.txt, gizmo is booted to the point where it asked me to press a key on the keypad
asciilifeform: these are chip docs, with thousands of magic numbers.
asciilifeform: who wants - go ahead, it is a 1-liner, and is in the l0gz somewhere
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform even a pdf to png transfer, with the images pasted on a html page, would be preferrable.
asciilifeform: could rasterize the thing, but it will be multi-GB.
mircea_popescu: especially as they're now getting imported into fucking foundational work
asciilifeform: (i personally stitched it out of the old braindamaged wiki, dumped circa july 2015)
mircea_popescu: anyway. we gotta do something with the pdfs.
asciilifeform: given as the latter is hand-cranked html
mircea_popescu: but no, they don't work, for eg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/sage/sage_smartprobe_gdb_command_manual.html#sideband_commands
mircea_popescu: are the archival bots running ? lessee
asciilifeform: ^ what's on the gboard.
asciilifeform: trinque: http://support.amd.com/TechDocs/43009.pdf http://amd-dev.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/media/2012/10/43366_sb7xx_bdg_pub_1.00.pdf << amd sb700 chipset docs. (and no, they do not exist in any other format, nor will they)
asciilifeform: *the
asciilifeform: oh btw you gotta have the cpu arch set to i386 for that one, as the iron starts in 16bit mode, and gdb is too stupid to track mode switches
asciilifeform: and no, gizmo first, then sage.
asciilifeform: there aint no 'reset'
asciilifeform: trinque: try power cycling the board using gdb monitor commands
trinque: asciilifeform: reseated it inside the sage, now got E64, which seems reasonable?
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2016/10/01/social-justice-lawncare-agricultural-marxism-for-the-collective-home-lawn/ << Bingo Blog - Social Justice Lawncare: (Agri)Cultural Marxism For the Collective Home Lawn
mircea_popescu: this is i think the first positive case of logrot due to idiots being idiots (tarver, in this case)
asciilifeform: trinque: so was the plug loose, or dud board, or wat
mircea_popescu: hm, i suppose this is a different class indeed. old guy who goes to the gym and so forth. a sort of lafond pencildick version.
mircea_popescu: well the old blokes tend to disappear in chumpatroniums a la http://trilema.com/2014/so-the-dollar-vigilante-scam-ring-is-going-to-jail/
asciilifeform: the new tarver is instead a case of 'my sbcl-with-serial-number-filed-off-pays-my-mortgage, open sores suxx!111'
asciilifeform: i linked subj because he is not the only one in that kingdom, it quite resembles one of those glue traps for mice, and folks who 'disgusted with open source!111' tend to end up in it.
mircea_popescu: neway, dood is more than welcome to his delusional kingdom. not the first one.
mircea_popescu: whole piece seems pretty much the #trilema talking points. including "giving away your power" unreferenced ballas - as - processed stuff etc.
asciilifeform: tarver had an open source crackpot lisp system for a decade or so, then quit in disgust, then opened some commercial thing
mircea_popescu: e projects and developers may find the material interesting."
mircea_popescu: "This essay is a lightly edited transcript of a series of posts I made to the Shen news group in the middle of 2015. They highlighted the failure of the open source initiative in the project, analysed the reasons and suggested a successful formula for moving the project forward. The posts led to the formation of the much more dynamic closed source Shen Professional. The lessons here are widely applicable to many open sourc
a111: Logged on 2014-06-22 17:22 asciilifeform: 'You can routinely find lecturers with more than a hundred published papers and you marvel at these paradigms of human creativity. These are people, you think, who are fit to challenge Mozart who wrote a hundred pieces or more of music. And then you get puzzled that, in this modern world, there should be so many Mozarts - almost one for every department. The more prosaic truth emerges when you scan the titles
asciilifeform: (with Shit Bolted To The Side)
asciilifeform: one time i even had a board with bad tracks to the hdt connector.
asciilifeform: see also that it has not come loose inside the probe box.
trinque: cable comes out away from the board
asciilifeform: make sure plug is in the right way
trinque: and in the right direction
asciilifeform: trinque: naturally the probe won't do anything useful without being connected to a powered amd mobo
asciilifeform: jurov: per this argument, the microshit world is where it's at.
asciilifeform: E81 -- 'The HDT cable is not plugged in'
trinque: gdb either via serial or net reports: Remote failure reply: E81
trinque: so it appears the thing survived?
trinque: can't get gdb connected to it yet, but connecting to it directly either with cu or telnet reports: SmartProbe: 3.2_3743
jurov: They may be smoking dope. Still, they decided to do their thing, instead of sitting on various stakes working for other people.
trinque: asciilifeform: got the pill applied, last call to dump_forever() failed but the lines preceding looked to be a successful firmware write
asciilifeform: on the other hand, if tarver - or anybody 'open source has failed!111' else - thinks that i am going to build anything whatsoever on top of his closed turd, he is smoking dope.
asciilifeform: then something has gone very wrong in her head. The aspirations of the OS fanatic hooked on mindshare are often no more realistic than the neurotic checkout girl at KFC.' << soooomebody's been reading ze logz
asciilifeform: 'There is a certain character you see in the West; the sort of girl who paints her nails, works at KFC and dreams of being selected for X-Factor because she sang karaoke at her friend's hen night. We laugh at this because we know that for her the chances of getting mindshare and being the next Beyonce are slight. Everyone can dream; but when the girl goes on to neglect her education and development because she's stuck on this dream,
asciilifeform: there is a mechanism whereby one can read/write the flash. i've been bolting it onto the ubiquitous 'flashrom' linux util, will be posted later.
asciilifeform: ( afaik the docs were to be found literally nowhere on the net. but they are now here. )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/observations-on-certain-documents-contained-in-the-history-of-the-united-states-for-the-year-1796-in-which-the-charge-of-speculation-against-alexander-hamilton-late-secretary-of-the-treasury-is-fully/ << Trilema - Observations on certain documents contained in the history of the United States for the year 1796 in which the charge of speculation against Alexander Hamilton, late secretary of the treasury is fully refuted. Written by
a111: Logged on 2016-09-27 20:03 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://montalk.net/conspiracy/55/how-to-block-microwave-mind-programming-signals
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm penning a humongo piece, hopefully be done by tonight.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/10/01/on-the-ultimate-justification-of-the-ethics-of-private-property-by-hans-hermann-hoppe-adnotated-part-2/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - On the Ultimate Justification of the Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe, adnotated. Part 2.
BingoBoingo: Litereally, the reallier looking snake plants look like they were shooped in from a home decorating magazine spread
BingoBoingo: Also those are the fakest looking cabbages and plants I've ever seen https://archive.is/gcqGH
BingoBoingo: The historical asp opposed to statementical which closes November
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo plox to include deed url in report from now on, that way i can link to qntra piece rather than to deed from trilema. << ty, will do.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo plox to include deed url in report from now on, that way i can link to qntra piece rather than to deed from trilema.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i like that there's no serif glyph powered ambiguity.
BingoBoingo: And by better I mean San Pedro cactus so they trip balls and naturally make parachute instead of cocoon
BingoBoingo: See that's your problem. You gotta feed them better.
shinohai: You can have them all tbh, they eat all the Mulberry trees and prevent me from harvesting great wines
shinohai: The silkworms in this area are only capable of sha1, I need better worms.
BingoBoingo: Not cross stitched. Needle point is for directing the silk worms as they spin parachute.
asciilifeform: now let's see other folk also !
asciilifeform: phf: it is not imho important to optimize parachute for speed. lamportron per se is nearly the ultimate waste of cpu and space in crypto world ...
asciilifeform: will have to look into their rng at some point.
phf: but! this was the extent of my free hacking time for this weekend. if there aren't any glaring bugs i might attempt to make it cons-free
phf: though i think /dev/random is still in the opensourced parts of os
phf: darwin's /dev/random is marginally slower than /dev/urandom, but then it's a closed source os, for all i know both feed directly from nsa headquarters
phf: i suspect what's happening is that the convenience call in that i'm using is allocating digest support structs on each invocation
asciilifeform: yet there can be no excuse for it consing
phf: well, then you have a hitler diddled copy, ironclad's tagline always has been "entirely in common lisp"
asciilifeform: does the thing leak?
asciilifeform: fine, but the conses!?
phf: i suspect that the text marshaling that shell script does (as far as overhead over "pure c") is insubstantial compared to otherwise demanding and ~~cpu level sha256
shinohai: Now I shall see parentheses in my sleep
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: again, make whatever encoder you like, folks have done so in the past, e.g., the barcode thing
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: theoretically
asciilifeform: i ask because it does not appear to be substantially faster than the shell script..
asciilifeform: phf: you have times in there. what was it running on?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the checksum should address that, no?
phf: http://paste.lisp.org/display/327488 lamport parachute PoC in common lisp (it has soft dependency on ironclad for sha256, but otherwise follows the design in that own function can be substituted)
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what do you like about b58? the checksum should be all that's necessary, right?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i like base 58 and the checksum. and i like the little metal flaps on wrong side of saw
ben_vulpes would dearly like to know how base58 is not another wart of pointless complexity
ben_vulpes: saturday the first of october, in which ben_vulpes (re?)discovers that bitcoin uses its own inane encoding scheme for addresses
phf: only issue with the regrind approach is clerical. it's easy to keep track of "this new thing that i don't have", much harder to keep all the "this old thing that i have is now new thing" updates
ben_vulpes: oh god the lols keep pouring out: "This bitcoind address validator is a subclass of the Django forms.CharField class" linked from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026.0
ben_vulpes: in other open sores chuckles "The encoded strings in the tests were created with Andresen's unmodified code, so they are correct. Probably."
asciilifeform: who wants the old crud - is welcome to his copy of it.
asciilifeform: (when removing the timestamps)
asciilifeform: and, incidentally, recall that we reground the trb genesis once.
asciilifeform: it made marginally more sense re the trb patch, but even there mircea_popescu insisted on the regrind.
asciilifeform: it is 100% pointless to distribute a single-author proggy as 'and here is the broken ver, and here is when i fixed it, get these 100 patches'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same thing as was with the version-string regrind.
mircea_popescu: and in other hoarding news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/37bf4b58a447c9b3ae42882d92b84427/tumblr_ndd6cznHtK1rl9p9mo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762&cpage=1#comment-17927 << for the record peterl is right. wtf is this "update genesis" bs ?
mircea_popescu: if anyone ever hires bryan cantrill i wish to see how will they face me.
mircea_popescu: "While we would fire Ben over this, node.js is an open source project and one doesn't necessarily have the same levers." aka "we've not yet managed to steal ben's work, but will posture as if anyway!!1"
ben_vulpes: "your gender equality mission is a cultural hegemony attack on the embattled nerd culture, and triggers all sorts of auto immune responses costing joyent and co millions in nerd productivity by inducing them to rage fruitlessly at their keyboards"
ben_vulpes: i believe that node.js and the white house are undifferentiable flaming piles of shit.
asciilifeform: the bush-II folk had brilliant 'solution', they created 'dhs', a uniquely braindamaged conglomerate bureau which subsumed half a dozen old ones, and is so peculiarly 'dilbertian hell' that the employee turnover there is now ~6 mo.
mircea_popescu: "This isn't merely a legalistic concern (though that too, certainly), but also a technical one: we believe that empathy is a core engineering valueand that an engineer that has so little empathy as to not understand why the use of gendered pronouns is a concern almost certainly makes poor technical decisions as well."
mircea_popescu: how do you think the places are ever fumigated, painted, etc ?
mircea_popescu: to install them as top brass in existing offices would a) mean that women are disgusting cocksuckers ; b) mean that niggers don't have the right to vote and c) prevent any maintenance work from ever happening in all of wash dc.
asciilifeform: but the interesting thing is that, per tradition, u.s. civil service brass is powerless to remove middle managers
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the strange thing is that nothing, theoretically, stops obamitler from installing them as top brass
ben_vulpes: hmfic also wants to install 'their friends' at managerial payrolls. wouldn't do at all to bring them in as toilet scrubbers in the 'white house communications agency'. 'but but i'm more important to just be a cog in an existing organization -- we need our own new best shiniest!'
asciilifeform: well yeah, they never get garbagecollected
mircea_popescu: gotta make a new one for each new generation of fucks, because well, as seen recently they have all the social skills of a mollusc and so can't work with anyone else but "their friends"
asciilifeform: lulzily enough, there was a 1950s version of this, still mega-budgeted, 'white house communications agency'
mircea_popescu: it is traditional in eastern tyrannies for whatever ethnic group of the new sultan to drag in a whole clan from the provinces.
asciilifeform: 'startup at the whitehouse' ??
ben_vulpes: thing came out of the "marketplace" shitshow.
asciilifeform: '…what we realized was that we could potentially build a SWAT team, a world-class technology office inside of the government that was helping agencies. We’ve dubbed that the U.S. Digital Service…they are making an enormous difference… President Barack Obama, March 2016'
asciilifeform: 'The United States Digital Service is a startup at the White House that pairs the country’s top technology talent with the best public servants, to improve the usefulness and reliability of the country’s most important digital services.' << l0l!!
ben_vulpes: 'tis in the log
mircea_popescu: "I work for the United States Digital Service." oh ok.
mircea_popescu: did he return the dough also ?
asciilifeform: 'In June 2011, Pope Benedict XVI apologized for the killing of De Molay and acknowledged that he was a victim of false accusations. ' << mega-lel.
ben_vulpes: i see "lost", think "what, lost account number?", i see "stole" think "ahaha, what hilarious paper did gs swindle the goatfuckers into buying this time?"
asciilifeform: granted, sometimes idiots forget to 'first you pillage, THEN you burn'
mircea_popescu: lmao. i'm sure they "lost" it.
deedbot: asciilifeform rated trinque 1 at 2015/08/01 16:36:05 << therealbitcoin testing
mircea_popescu: anyway ; back in 2013, pre-republic, when idiots with their hissy fits actually got people "teaching moments" ; compare and contrast with 2016, post republic, where francis rowe is about on par with roadkill for reputation.
mircea_popescu: shinohai note that the whole "talk privately" bullshit is VERY much how usgtardism spread. they know that openly pushing the koolaid will get them excruciated. but apparently esltards are VERY vulnerable to 1 on 1.
ben_vulpes: come on brosephim. you're 'working' on node.js, the very government shows up to regender your codebase and you decide to get uppity?
shinohai: V even solves the problem of gendered pronouns in software development. Is there anything it can't do?
ben_vulpes: working /for/ the usg.
trinque: but the sauce looks like a quick read.
asciilifeform: ^ from the man page on my box. gold.
asciilifeform: any idea how to make it quit immediately rather than stalling for an entire second ?
mircea_popescu: it's a miserable anchor for identity, this "ways we do things" ; and for that matter the sort of brain that doesn't take well to public discussion of technology is fundamentally broken in ways that should be addressed long before any technological involvement.
mircea_popescu: this imbecility is widely accepted by now. however - there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PRIVATE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.
mircea_popescu: nse and its hard for them to learn in this state which is why a private consultation is more effective."
mircea_popescu: offering them benefit of the doubt. Often they arent being malicious they just dont understand why something should be done a certain way. Why not teach them? Put yourself in their shoes and ask, What do I know that this person doesnt know, which would cause me to act like them in this situation if I didnt know it. Thats the very definition of empathy. Public shaming elicits peoples fight/flight respo
mircea_popescu: "Heres what I learned from my mentors: If someone makes a mistake, or does something you dont think is right, you talk to them about it privately and give them the opportunity to correct it. This not only gets the mistake corrected, but it offers a learning moment to the person, increases their understanding, and keeps them on board with the overall project. As a leader youre being empathetic to that person and
asciilifeform: lel folx pm'ing me re various proggies that do not solve the problem.
mircea_popescu: and in other stale lulz, https://strongloop.com/strongblog/collaboration-not-derision-in-the-node-community/
mircea_popescu: i dunno that the screen to insulate operator from "iron-that-might-emit-literally-anything-in-response-to-literally-anything" was ever baked. in nuclear physics or theoretical math.
asciilifeform: mno. in no bible is it written that the escapes are allowed to stop working if the thing sees some octet it is allergic to in-band FROM OTHER SIDE.
asciilifeform: the selfsame terminal!
mircea_popescu: it is from the terminal.
asciilifeform: want FROM THE TERMINAL
asciilifeform: the only thing that works is detach-and-kill
asciilifeform: mno, just proggy that puts bytes from stdio DOWN a serial line, and spits back what comes back, until SELECTABLE magical cyanide pill is given to it, at which point it lets THE FUCK GO of the tty.
mircea_popescu: so you want a tmux that has all the ease of handling of screen / a screen that has all the scripting inclination of tmux + an ascii filter.
asciilifeform: at any rate i'd like the option of losing'em
mircea_popescu: and other things.
asciilifeform: shit strictly what gets pushed on motherfucking keyboard.
mircea_popescu: either you want to manually, hence screen ; or you do not, hence tmux.
asciilifeform: i use screen as a sort of 'kermit', rather than the typical use, a kind of souped-up 'nohup'.
asciilifeform: well no, because i have other proggies that need to monopolize THAT port.
mircea_popescu: so then reattach.
asciilifeform: the most agonizing thing in this example is that i am quite unsure if the ills are even curable. they may be intrinsic to the 'in-band problem' of a terminal talker.
asciilifeform: if somebody would like to recommend some proggy for speaking to serial ports that 1) isn't gnu screen 2) doesn't shit all over the living room precisely like gnu screen 3) doesn't have 'gui' --- i'm all ears.
asciilifeform: most infuriatingly, the manual specifies various ways to kill it, which, depending on what it is plugged into, may or may not work. and may or may not emit some sort of mortal piss down the line, which could be connected to a nuke for all knows, before death.
asciilifeform: (thing hangs on to a pty, so will not die simply from, e.g., nuking the xterm from which you ran it)
asciilifeform: which, unlike a sane program, cannot be easily terminated from the outside, though it is a userland process
mircea_popescu: in other news, it's kinda funny to read imdb reviews of bad 2016 movies.
mircea_popescu: PeterL ./file opens a shell, runs the file, reports results ; . file runs file in current shell, reports results one up.
asciilifeform: it ain't linux - esp. not with the weird broken gui on it
a111: Logged on 2016-09-30 19:05 PeterL: so I was playing with the lamport-parachute scripts, and if I run any of them without any arguments it should just print "usage: ...", right? Instead it is closing the terminal window I ran it in?
mircea_popescu: actually it seems to convert <font color=lightgray> into <span style="color: #000000;"> ; as none of the font tags are actually ever closed, it results in span overflow and death.
PeterL: so I was playing with the lamport-parachute scripts, and if I run any of them without any arguments it should just print "usage: ...", right? Instead it is closing the terminal window I ran it in?
mircea_popescu: ironically, i think the <p> <br /> style construction overwhelms some sort of secret buffer in "process html soup" render engine, resulting in the spwer seen in firefox/archive.is
mircea_popescu: so far also getting multiple DIFFERENT page renders on the same god damned basic html in various browswers
PeterL: http://archive.is/iJ4K7#selection-6731.0-6731.121 looked funny on archive.is, but it looks okay when I load the page directly
mircea_popescu: no, apparently a href reference in footnote kills the footnote title somehow
PeterL: dos it have to do with the way the color did not end properly at the bottom of the quote from the cat-v chan?
phf: dirtied up by the khan
mircea_popescu: in the hair ?!
phf: could there be anything more russian
asciilifeform: i've yet to see 5 do much other than barf
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what made the sad thing you used before
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : gcc 5 produces eulora binary that works normally ; gcc 6 produces eulora binary that inexplicably works at 0.5 to 1.5 fps.
thestringpuller: altho it's interesting given the context here >> http://trilema.com/2013/i-have-no-idea-why-rape-is-against-the-law-while-marketing-is-not/
mircea_popescu: lol. for the record, http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-august-2016-statement/#selection-137.0-141.0
mircea_popescu: that's the one fucking thing that never seems to be human nature.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck isn't it human nature to do something useful with oneself ?
phf: sort of how hapless adventurers sometimes find themselves in a village that's poised on a back of a whale, they always start getting rumbustious, thus waking up the whale and suffering the consequences
mircea_popescu: how could it not be fucking obvious, they're running my software.
asciilifeform: what were these, no-shows ?
asciilifeform: pernatural belonging earned him the impossibly ironic nickname of “Gandhi” among his men.'
asciilifeform: derous authority, Dirlewanger, paradoxically, was also very close to his men. He had a tendency to use informal language and address them by their first names, which was extremely unusual for a German officer. He drank with them, he raped and murdered with them, acted as if he was one of them. He also fought with them, making a point of being in the action far more than most officers of his rank. His calm under fire and his nearly su
asciilifeform: in other lulz, '...And as commander he was given special permission by Heinrich Himmler to discipline his men however he wished, up to and including executing them. This was an extraordinary privilege for an officer of the German Army, which normally had judicial procedures like any other military force. In the entire millions-strong Wehrmacht, only Dirlewanger had this authority, and he used it liberally... But while he had this mur
asciilifeform: 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?!'
mircea_popescu: civil rights ? give me a fucking break, giving the average joe any rights is no different from dressing up a sow.
mircea_popescu: i don't think one can properly appreciate how broken "thought process" is in general population unless they do such. or try to teach. or try to tech support. or practice law. or so following.
mircea_popescu: in other news, this whole "noobs meet bitcoin, rsa and deedbot via eulora" thing is so very instructive.
mircea_popescu: they generally are shaped like don't.
asciilifeform: but they are shaped like 'don't's
asciilifeform: actually, at least here in the motherland of p.t. barnum, there are countless '5k bills' on the ground
mircea_popescu: (and in general - it is always and everywhere A LOT more work to be poor than to be rich. it's just idiots are REALLY dedicated to being stupid, much moreso than the other group.)
mircea_popescu: sure. just mentioned because it'd be an opportunity for 'em to grasp the problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these same folk are equally insufferable when their budget is 100k, it is a mental thing
shinohai: Follow directions in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ , save thy Bits, and in no time at all you can buy something considerably better than $100 laptop
mircea_popescu: shinohai these are some unemployed dorks who scoff at random "mayor of ???" because you know, being an anal child with an internet connection puts the adolescentine mind in this superlative position of JUDGE TOI ALL THINGS, PART OF NONE! ; then their budget for laptops is 100 bux but they scoff at a five laying on the ground, and such following forever. are anonymous, pretend famous people justify themselves to them, on in th
shinohai: Wasn't exactly "employed" when I bought new lappy ... simply found work for Bitcoin and purchased the one I wanted.
asciilifeform: these folk achieve a rare combination of boredom and actively-infuriating 'sanitation is an affront to the great serpent!11' unwashed orcdom.
mircea_popescu: wtf was that anyway, "go do this and then wait for its imperial majesty usg.sks for until they feel like it". since when!
mircea_popescu: ahh the new link process is so many thousand times better. wd trinque
wawan99: i already download the Eulora app
diana_coman: download the eulora client and compile it/check it works on your machine; ask for an account; preferably don't quit the irc session, just leave it on until Mircea comes around to make you the account
wawan99: so what the next step after this diana_coman
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/30/on-the-ultimate-justification-of-the-ethics-of-private-property-by-hans-hermann-hoppe-adnotated-part-1/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - On the Ultimate Justification of the Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe, adnotated. Part 1.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in more of the same news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/cd255f83a7fd90090e23fbc88eb290af/tumblr_nervrm4vdj1u279w5o1_500.gif
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I believe it was discussed in chan before, but Imma rereading it because pretty sure the booze was driving last time.
mircea_popescu: google wants all the things huh.