asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/l8hg0/?raw=true << THIS type of blackhole is 'false blackhole', it comes from the idiot engine not knowing how to answer ANY message if a block is being verified
asciilifeform: and you are already familiar with the basic ugly solutions.
asciilifeform: i do not expect to see any beautiful solutions to the mining problem.
asciilifeform: trinque: there were several threads re this unsolved problem.
asciilifeform: the 'something to allcomers' days are drawin' to a close.
trinque: but either is/phenomenon or are/phenomena eh?
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: "Digestive intolerance of unfamiliar plant proteins is not an uncommon phenomena" -> phenomena, i thought, refers to the subject, i.e. "digestive intolerance", which is a singular (not many phenomena, but a single: intolerance)
ben_vulpes: we throw parties, drink, argue over every single seat and pencil the boxes in on our mail-in ballots
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1564028 << ah, the once-every-four-years reminder that the rest of the country has to actually work to vote
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 17:38 mircea_popescu: back to the lulzpocalypse, there's exactly 0 reporting on early voting / outside-the-booth polls / etc from the pantsuit media.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://elections16.usatoday.com/outlook/presidential << plenty of 'reporting'. complete with the hardcoded clitler.
shinohai: "Votes from Guam, however, don’t count, as the island has no representation in the Electoral College. "
asciilifeform: http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html << by the folx who fixed the last 2 elections.
asciilifeform: 'Barring a frightening and horrifying upset, later tonight Hillary Clinton will make history when she becomes the first woman to ever be elected president of the United States.' -- british fishwrap
mircea_popescu: back to the lulzpocalypse, there's exactly 0 reporting on early voting / outside-the-booth polls / etc from the pantsuit media.
mircea_popescu: well any of the aspiring young'uns looking for stuff to do works.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the internets never heard of this mohan nirala before.
asciilifeform: the indictment itself is also non-ocr'd apparently.
asciilifeform: i had never previously seen these iirc.
asciilifeform: these have become tediously predictable.
asciilifeform: f July 5. Defense counsel received the discovery in a SCIF on June 13, 2016. This includes, however, a disc of emails that cannot currently be reviewed, as a secure computer has not yet been provided, as well as the files of the case agents, which are also classified and were not previously available to counsel..'
asciilifeform: e.g., 'This case is complex because it involves classified discovery that requires a top secret clearance to review. In order to make use of the classified discovery at trial, counsel will have to engage in CIPA litigation. This requires that defense counsel be able to review the discovery, determine a trial strategy and decide what discovery and evidence will be necessaryfor trial, in advance of the currentlyscheduled hearing date o
asciilifeform: no tits either.
mircea_popescu: and no pubkeys either amirite.
asciilifeform: they 'ideologically' refuse to see any papers etc.
asciilifeform: btw in state of md all you need to vote is the name, street addr, and bday of somebody registered.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rubbish infrastructure because they dun actually ~count~ them ballots, and annoyed when too many chumps show up to fill the useless bin
BingoBoingo: Likely hypothesis is "blue" areas suck because of all the rigging that has to be navigated around without tripping. Thus adventures the good shit socialism on the sulphur sea of lies.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and holy fuck, hour+ queue for ONE (yes, one) ballotron. << It took two minutes to check in and take myself to one one the many booths. Even with pollig place crowded.
asciilifeform: i have nfi what the latter refers to.
asciilifeform: interestingly, the thing had a counter display
mircea_popescu: how do you reconcile this with the grand lizzard plan ?
asciilifeform: they simply did not see any reason to install >1
mircea_popescu: traditionally the arab horde fought west first, east 2nd.
mircea_popescu: they're so fucked...
asciilifeform: '“Banks will be closed tomorrow. It will cause some hardship to you….Let us ignore these hardships… In country’s history, there comes a moment when people will want to participate in the nation building and reconstruction. Very few such moments come in life,” Modi said.'
asciilifeform: 'Rs 500 and 1000 currency notes stand abolished from midnight: PM Modi Live update of PM Narendra Modi's address to the Nation. Corruption, terrorism, black money weakening the nation.'
a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 20:33 mircea_popescu: and what's worse, the "wiki" style is proven not to work. even something originally as promising as tvtropes has over the years decayed into this unfunny collection of tiresome goop.
mircea_popescu: much like black mold, they took advantage of a dirty environment and spread.
PeterL: ^ WTF, why does this derp think we want to hear about their sinus infection? What is wrong with these people?
mircea_popescu: make it illegal to medicalize convenience, of all kinds. i get it that it'd be convenient for the politicians if the doctors distributed social payola to the poor under the pretense of "health". dun work that way regardless.
mircea_popescu: dispensed in the us by health insurance.
mircea_popescu: the us health care problem has only one solution, and it's compressive not expansive. a) shoot all the malades imaginaires (such as, fine example, https://archive.is/yyQny). these literally have to be shot, no possible two ways about it ; b) make it impossible for doctors to give the patient benefits. no days off from work ; no financial payments dependent on what doctor says on paper. nothing. no more painkillers of any kind
PeterL: I thought that was one of the things obummercare was supposed to fix, but it seems the only options offered are hyperexpensive
PeterL: there is also the stupid US practice of tying health insurance to your employment, instead of having an open market
trinque: because they launder it through an "insurance company"
mircea_popescu: PeterL right, because if i put more people through the clothes shredder i'll get more supermodels right ?
mircea_popescu: the only way out is to separate medical care from social security ; and to shoot anyone found to have engaged in fraud for the past decade.
PeterL: they could pay to put more people through doctor school, or something
trinque: speaking of the motherfucking health care, my premium for the shittiest plan that's available just went up by 32%
mircea_popescu: they can't hire more doctors, because they're already hiring all the doctors that exist.
PeterL: suprise suprise, the cost went up
PeterL: basic economics: if they wanted prices to go down they should have increased supply (hire more doctors), instead they increased demand (forced everybody to buy the "insurance")
mircea_popescu: it all balances out, so that the usg can pretend it has a gdp and the oligarchy can pretend it's in business.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they raped him more last time because "not in electorally sensitive locale". the people who got it easy then for that reason are getting shafted now
PeterL: well, there was a visible change in the reported polls over the last couple weeks, that is what I am referring to
mircea_popescu: the idiots may think that unreported crime/fires/rapes/whatever never happened, but it's not how it works.
BingoBoingo: PeterL: 25% is the least it is going up depending on your ZIP code
PeterL: and reports are that it will go up ~25% this year, I think that may have been one of the things tipping the polls away from clinton at the last moment
mircea_popescu: the result of letting the kids on reddit instead of keeping them chained to a pole half the day with water and quarterly whippings.
mircea_popescu: basically the whole thing was about govt corps needing a new prop for their feltering bezzle fortune. and he acquiesced. and the idiots think he's a democrat.
PeterL: the year obamacare came into effect my health insurance cost went up 300%, with the same coverage
mircea_popescu: it's always tempting to say that "this dish is shit, but let me add some sauce", as if the superset of shit somehow redeems the individual turds.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 14:47 Framedragger: mein gott. decided to deploy one of the newer 'productivity web apps' for work, official install is through docker, and *obviously* official docker install is `wget -qO- https://get.docker.com/ | sh`. BUT LOOK at the end of that legit2000.sh is:
Framedragger: i thought part of the fuck up was "what happens if you pass half of the bill through". something like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542331
mircea_popescu: somehow they ALSO all omit to point out that a) they were wrong and b) the others were right ; or propose any sort of penitence, such as you know, hanging themselves.
Framedragger: (re. putin, can't see how one could disagree there)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, they all AGREE today that he fucked it up. and it "needs to be fixed".
mircea_popescu: "negotiation tactic". obama fucked up the healthcare.
mircea_popescu: lol. and what else, putin just didn't understand how the world works ?
mircea_popescu: unless you want to put it on the same sex marriage idiocy, but this is bestowing unwarranted importance on the faggot party.
Framedragger: but i thought it was just a negotiating tactic by the republicans - had happened before
mircea_popescu: no, i mean obama fucking up with his healthcare bill and nearly sending the country into insolvency thereby.
Framedragger possibly behind on the times
Framedragger: not particularly. states were able to opt out of ACA which was not in the original plan; but the shutdown?
mircea_popescu: it was not in jest. you recall the shutdown ?
mircea_popescu: so a) all their friends will think they're fucking a submarine AND b) they won't actually get torn cunts.
mircea_popescu: the girls just think he's a tall black man with a small dick.
PeterL: and the girls think he has a sexy speaking voice
mircea_popescu: PeterL yeah, up until the vote turns out +20 trump rather than +4 as the polls showed.
mircea_popescu: PeterL and the fundamental reason is that he's black and they're racist. in their minds, he's subhuman, and consequently incapable of action, intent, responsibility etc.
PeterL: right, those lean republican so they don't matter because they were already baked into the polls that they would swing trump
PeterL: Obama remais a clean slate, everything just slides off him, and the progs still project all their pet policies onto him despite his actual actions to the contrary
mircea_popescu: right. there were no scandals because he's dumb and deaf.
mircea_popescu: or the time he destroyed the last shreds of respectability for the supreme court, what with the tax that's not a tax.
mircea_popescu: they also seem to forget the five or so times putin pulled his pants down and fucked him like a little bitch in front of intl orgs.
PeterL: I have seen a bunch of memes popping up on arsebook praising Obummer for having "8 years with no scandals", they seem to forget that the scandals plaguing Hillary stem from her time as part of the Obummer administration
mircea_popescu: (gotta admit mondale totally looks the part)
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Alf Landon - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf_Landon>; United States presidential election, 1936 - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1936>; Alf Landon , G.O.P. Stand-Bearer, Dies at 100 - The New York Times: <http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0909.html>
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even knew someone actually ran against reagan 2.
mircea_popescu: ima man up and admit i have nfi what i'm talking about then!
PeterL: or does he not count either?
mircea_popescu: PeterL ima cop out and say the empire only begins post ww2.
mircea_popescu: she lost fucking nh, she's going to carry california and thaqt's it. first presidential candidate with <10% of electoral votes in the history of that empire.
mircea_popescu: generally in bipartisan systems a vote downlist has principally the effect of hurting the favorite. that much is correct. nevertheless, the notion that hillary's a favourite is ludicrous.
mircea_popescu: PeterL those people read way too much myspace, which is how they ended up with the notion that hillary has a chance or something.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, they'll just have more undeaded ballots next door in St Clair County to balance it out.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dun worry about it, they'll fix it later if the counts don't come out right
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Doing the math for myself and seeing how empty the box of registered voter cards was it appeared that in my jurisdiction voting Johnson would have been stealing from Trump to help Hillary. #MakeIllinoisASwingState
PeterL: people keep telling me that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump (because it is somehow stealing a vote from Hillary, who we only want to vote for to stop the monster Trump), so I guess I voted for TrumpReich too
BingoBoingo hits the showers
BingoBoingo woke up today an undecided voter. It was weird. I had every intention of voting for my boy Gary Johnson, but on the drive to the polling place uncertainty hit me. And this the 124th ballot in the 5th precinct of Helvitia township in Madison County, Illinois was submitted for the TrumpenReich
asciilifeform: 'colour the circles!'
hanbot would like to thank her fellow contestants for their literary companionship, and the congratulators for their congratulations, the republic for its independence, and reserva san juan.
shinohai blows vuvuzela behind the woman sitting next to mod6
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at trump's nubile slave camp (built on the grounds of the previous university of maryland), http://68.media.tumblr.com/a05108e779e29c701a843635d51d37e9/tumblr_n7blnb5eUz1r81lgko1_1280.jpg
mod6: Mr. Popescu, Lords, and General Assembly: Today, I'd like to take a moment to observe and congratulate The Most Serene Republic on it's Second Independence Day!
PeterL voted this morning, was number 53 in the precinct
mircea_popescu: new hampshire traditionally has the early closed ballots because all the small towns can close as soon as all ballots are cast and the residents usually show up at midnight and vote.
Framedragger: boy you should see the headlines on the most popular online "news portal". right now top page has "COULD THE THIRD WORLD BE STARTING _HERE_?" http://i.imgur.com/pwSfF1R.png
mircea_popescu: anyway, who the fuck knows, just dicking around
Framedragger: i see the point. yah, it's more funky that way
mircea_popescu: what's the term, last minute resistance
Framedragger: i guess the former may have more 'spirit'
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i can't bridge the parallel in my mind.
mircea_popescu: the strength of feeling is what matters, not its "direction", esp not as self-reported by the feeler.
mircea_popescu: we're discussing what they do not what you do.
Framedragger: the latter appears more rational and therefore to a degree more sexy, but the former may be into s/m
mircea_popescu: hey, given two 16yo friends, one of which is in full "he is totally satan evil guy" and the other "hey, my current bf is buying me a car, but maybe once he loses his job", which do you think you fuck first ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 05:21 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: when is latvia going to dump the eu for putin's sweet embrace?
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1563895 << heh! plenty o' russians in latvia. i think 2020 is the year when the eu bribe moneys for the baltics will begin to dry up, so maybe about that time? lithuania on the other hand is in full "satan putin is preparing for nuclear" warmongering mode. helps the centre-right party and its "foreign policy" line
a111: Logged on 2016-10-30 04:24 BingoBoingo: Thus concludes my entry into the Elliot fanfic contest. Your move adlai!
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Haynes, Chilton, or is there a more exotic third party manual because cool car?
mircea_popescu: ironically this makes army (at least in the pre 90s implementation) very much a college ; which is a determination i stand by.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as oft happens, they make whore (camp followers, whatever) quarters as close as practicable.
mircea_popescu: he failed to include the "please go away", but anyway.
mircea_popescu: college works exactly like greenspun memorialized : "the reason you are having trouble with this problem is because you aren't very smart and aren't woking very hard."
mircea_popescu: that's what they do at wellesley.
adlai: i've yet to witness a student getting thrown out of a lecture at TAU (was done reasonably often by certain teachers at exeter), although - they often basically tell students to shut up and ask questions privately afterwards
mircea_popescu: should be directly obvious. do the teachers publicly rebuff students for being inadequate and ask them to leave ?
adlai will keep a rough headcount as the years pass
mircea_popescu: a fake college is on the contrary, one built on the insane premise that there's a space and a future for all walkers.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 06:25 adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563302 << what passes for 'real college' these days? ("anything outside of usgschwitz" is a bit of a cop-out)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1563912 << anything where half or more of the hopefuls fail to make it in, AND half or more of the first year fails to pass into 2nd. it must be selective in this sense, with an understanding that most extant fenotypes are biological failures of no further interest or value.
mircea_popescu: therefore i proclaim her the winner, with the mention that while none of the participants are exactly yet shakespeare, they're certainly much further down the path of shakespearing than the common man, and so congratulations!
mircea_popescu: lly resulting in something like a sugar cube ; hanbot's formal in form, which either through inhabituation or because poetry is an actual and legitimate artform (which seems rather dubious to be honest) is less grating than the other two.
mircea_popescu: it is an interesting task, because the entries all suffer from the same affliction, which is formalism, but suffer from it in very different ways. bingoboingo's has a very formal composition - he's deliberately and evidently put anything & the kitchen sink in there ; diana's very formally constructed, she starts from a tiny base in stark contrast to bingoboingo's all-engulfing endlessness then follows all the angles methodica
mircea_popescu: ok, so i'm ready to adjudicate in the matter of the hallo ween st. elliot fanfic contest.
ben_vulpes: oh good grief and in which i discover https://www.planetoftheapps.com/
ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/11/07/america-has-never-had-so-much-tv-and-even-hollywood-is-overwhelmed/ << turkeys leaking
ben_vulpes waits for adlai to ask "what the heck kind of chain has a single link, anyways"
ben_vulpes: not unless you're trying to ruin the joke, no
adlai: er that's not quite right either. confirming that i didn't spew nonsense into the internet reveals that, while cracking does describe part of the process of turning heterogenous crude into several homogenous smaller-chain hydrocarbons, it typically does involve breaking bonds
ben_vulpes: yeah, i'm aware that it's a term of art in the refining biz.
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563741 << btw, excuse my nitpicks, but 'crack' is actually the verb for separating the various hydrocarbons apart from crude
ben_vulpes: odds are that The Vacuum System actuating the blend door is leaking. upside is that this may take my idle from 1050 down to 800 (and possibly even reclaim some HP) if i do plug some leaks.
ben_vulpes: i have 2 smallish repairs on the docket: replacing the seatbelt and fixing the blend door in the HVAC system. coming up with a plan for the first was trivial, once i had assembly plans for the seats and restraints in hand. i have a bead on how to diagnose the hvac blend as well, similarly derived from the heat control actuator harness assembly diagrams.
ben_vulpes: the car is ~intact. the AIM is a reference tome on how it went together in the first place.
adlai would not object to the latter, given time and space to work; but doesn't think they make'em like that anymore?
adlai: ben_vulpes: i assume this is more of an "owner's manual" type thing, and you're not now staring at twenty crates of corvette parts that you're gonna put together yourself?
adlai: supposedly "this chemistry department is the one that has the most non-chemistry (ie, physics and math) prerequisites of all chemistry departments in israel, maybe even the entire world" ...mkay
ben_vulpes: also holy heck computers ruined cars, not in their automation but in the inane horseshit the engineers crapped out once they could re-diddle every part every year
ben_vulpes received his assembly instruction manual for the corvette today, has been a solid remedial american cars course so far
adlai: your mother"
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554171 << meanwhile a tale from the local unreal-college-cum-kindergarden: "in this class, i teach you classical mechanics. we will not cover quantum mechanics, which tells you how small things behave over small distances; nor special relativity, which describes the behavior of things at high speeds; nor general relativity, which describes the effect of standing next to
adlai: also !~later tell vexual or whatever you call yourself these days, telling me "you can PM me too" but then never being online, and changing nicks, is not a great way to get PMed
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 12:26 mircea_popescu: kids who go to real college where they learn real science also learn intrinsically this, that to asq a question is to beg for money, and to disguise your questions as anything else is felonious. so they get an over-active self censor. meanwhile the idiots who do not go to real college, but to fake empire college learn that they can overpower their better peers through sheer gab. because "human rights" and "freedom of speech"
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563302 << what passes for 'real college' these days? ("anything outside of usgschwitz" is a bit of a cop-out)
soneelks: they barely work
soneelks: (it's actually goat but the chef says it's lamb)
soneelks: can we stuff ballets or does the lordship have a preference?
soneelks: i must confess its not rly sonelks but the election is near
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: when is latvia going to dump the eu for putin's sweet embrace?
ben_vulpes: "baby, we're well beyond 'middle class'. d'you remember how 'middle class' for our parents went? the 2 cars outside would be new, and we'd not be pent up in 800ft^2. parts of the country can't drink well water because 'fraking'. when is bad bad enough?"
mircea_popescu: don't worry ben_vulpes by the time you're as poor as mark twain's nigger called jerry, you'll be just as energetic and passionate i'm sure!
mircea_popescu: trinque the idea is that "someone will have to".
trinque: ben_vulpes: why would they want to continue to do that?
mircea_popescu: there's also no evidence that a bunch of dorks can make rules for people with money.
ben_vulpes: someone actually advanced the argument that "there's no evidence that corporations will pass the cost on"
ben_vulpes: a) "do you really think that will last?" b) "that's pretty amusingly accidentally regressive, as ~all companies 'serving' the poor satisfy that"
ben_vulpes: oh and in other glorious socialist republics of oregon, a 2% tax on corporate sales made it to the ballot this year.
ben_vulpes: i retain hope for the glorious trumpenreich
mircea_popescu: not that there isn't a ton of these. but "mary elizabeth williams" lol. to quote, http://trilema.com/2013/queers/#selection-135.0-135.108
mircea_popescu: and in other "deeply butthurt nobody thinks they're somehow somebody", https://archive.is/kSni9
mircea_popescu: the reason blacks back then weren't intelligent and well spoken as now has to do with the cruel conditions in which they lived. back then, unlike now.
trinque: fucking flatland even then; it had no chance.
trinque: meanwhile every other search result was some barista crowing about what a man of the people to see such wisdom in a slave, and isn't this such an insight into the nature of *humans*
mircea_popescu: trinque that piece is particularly scandalous. imagine, the only writer worth two shits to ever crawl out of that god forsaken hole, not only a living testament to how smoking twenty cigars a day doesn't give you cancer ; but even daring to represent black slavery as a carefree life of exact equivalency to the shenanigans of today's barristas and waitresses with jezbel aspirations!
trinque: We all do no end of feeling, and we mistake it for thinking. And out of it we get an aggregation which we consider a boon. Its name is Public Opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles everything. Some think it the Voice of God. << I suppose the great that'll great again predated Mr Twain.
trinque: the slave detail being entirely relevant.
asciilifeform: (franco was 'nobody' then)
mircea_popescu: you keep going "if disney were king of the hill and i had free run of the studios" sorta scenarios. get off it, kenya dun has a hollywood.
asciilifeform: the old man's -- i have nfi
asciilifeform: theirs, imho, were measured in oregon last yr and elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: and alongside his, the collective white-whatevers.
asciilifeform: esp when the crematoria open for business.
asciilifeform: for the pre-coded output.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Oracle Sunday on Eulora on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/oracle-sunday-on-eulora>; Title: Hymns of Ter Steegen, Suso, and Others Creator(s): Bevan ...: <https://www.ccel.org/ccel/bevan/tersteegen.txt>; Hymns of the Early Church ////// - Compassionheart: <http://www.compassionheart.com/earlyhymns.html>
phf: some Sandman shit right there
asciilifeform: or at least in the sense where medieval europe exists in mircea_popescu's garden of delights
trinque: where did the real SU characters go?
phf: yeah, that's the one i explicitly searched for, but i started clicking around
phf: i love comments on su tracks on youtube, they are like something out of Sorokin novels.
asciilifeform: ( ever notice how much the 'steel mill' scenes in 'atlas' resemble a classical 'производственный роман' ?? )
asciilifeform: apparently -- in the graveyard
ben_vulpes: what are these 'real americans'?
asciilifeform still does not fully grasp why the 'real americans' won't build concentration camps and put the folks who did this to them, inside.
asciilifeform: and, supposedly, early (analogue!) flight sims were built there.
asciilifeform: 1 such airplane, according to the city museum (where one of the the few remaining machines lives) cost 2.6k usd in 1940.
asciilifeform: i watched, with binocular, it was interesting (there was even a well on the premises!)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 20:20 ben_vulpes: http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-to-limit-long-distance-supercharging-for-new-owners-1478531035 << 1000 mi free per year on the supercharger network
phf: apparently there's a 2008 movie called "nick and norah's infinite playlist"
BingoBoingo: In other Qntests, Qntest deadline is approaching http://qntra.net/2016/10/what-is-the-difference-between-bill-clinton-and-bill-cosby-a-qntest-with-bitcoin-prizes/
ben_vulpes looks for more ways to push more gasoline through the engines in his stewardship
ben_vulpes: the benefit rollbacks keep on stacking up
ben_vulpes: http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-to-limit-long-distance-supercharging-for-new-owners-1478531035 << 1000 mi free per year on the supercharger network
BingoBoingo: Eh, the 1980's were weird
asciilifeform: was ~last gasp of 'you buy a comp, and it comes with the correct os for it, made by same people' thing.
BingoBoingo: The "buy all these 'workstations' for liberal arts computing"; iron may have been honest but not all use cases marketed for were.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this notion, that you need multi-$k gpu accelerators, tightly coupled with os voodoo, just to use a motherfucking TEXT EDITOR, is very 'modern' << Seems to be sorts the thing "Sun" was born out of.
asciilifeform: this notion, that you need multi-$k gpu accelerators, tightly coupled with os voodoo, just to use a motherfucking TEXT EDITOR, is very 'modern'
phf: could since at least 75, when the blit paper was written
BingoBoingo: Naturally I seem to be. James paid the price for getting his Elliot love and Elliot lived the only natural life he could as a racially ambiguous kid in the desrt.
asciilifeform: ( point of the story was, you can get ~0-flicker~ vga even on ludicrously and unpredictably slow machine, using a box that lets you build up, slowly, painfully, hidden framebuffer, then quickly flip to it.)
mircea_popescu: well yeah asking for teh final words. speak for yerself BingoBoingo , who's the best contestant ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-05 10:06 diana_coman: contest anyway; considering however that it was set for Halloween, I guess I'd go with "goriest" and therefore BingoBoingo should win; as a side, I must say I don't quite follow the point of "all possible positions expressed" since they were quite clear/obvious anyway;
asciilifeform: there is an ascii doom, somewhere.
mircea_popescu: is there doom in emacs btw ?
asciilifeform: i had, nailed to the wall, 'tick table', like everyone else
asciilifeform: boards starting with ega, let you read the vertical refresh signal.
mircea_popescu: yeah, through intimate knowledge of the os timings.
asciilifeform: more nuanced : it is not the 'fps' that matters, but how long it takes to swap framebuffers. the usb dongle gave ~7 fps in practice, but 0 tearing because it had simple doublebuffer, where it took a while to draw the hidden buffer, but flipping took a msec or so.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i r disappoint. that sad, sad moment when you're stuck in a world where all the best erotic fiction is written by yourself, so the choice is between familiarity and inferior product. << This is leading cause of male orgasm disfunction. Perhaps train girl to unfamiliarize your own text?
mircea_popescu: incidentally hanbot BingoBoingo diana_coman what say you, who's the winner ?