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ben_vulpes: cnn: "comey's letter may be too little, too late"
mircea_popescu: they STILL can't say "we blew it" can they.
ben_vulpes: i retain hope for the glorious trumpenreich
ben_vulpes: "but why ben_vulpes but whyyyyyy?"
ben_vulpes: "because you react like that, duh"
ben_vulpes: oh and in other glorious socialist republics of oregon, a 2% tax on corporate sales made it to the ballot this year.
ben_vulpes: "but only for corps with revenue of over 25MM!"
ben_vulpes: a) "do you really think that will last?" b) "that's pretty amusingly accidentally regressive, as ~all companies 'serving' the poor satisfy that"
trinque: ben_vulpes: so we're going to be taking businesses from OR like we are CA, eh?
ben_vulpes: someone actually advanced the argument that "there's no evidence that corporations will pass the cost on"
trinque: that's fine.
ben_vulpes: trinque: do business here, pay taxes on it here iirc.
mircea_popescu: there's also no evidence that a bunch of dorks can make rules for people with money.
trinque: ben_vulpes: why would they want to continue to do that?
mircea_popescu: trinque the idea is that "someone will have to".
ben_vulpes: my dumb ass apparently
trinque: lel
mircea_popescu: don't worry ben_vulpes by the time you're as poor as mark twain's nigger called jerry, you'll be just as energetic and passionate i'm sure!
mircea_popescu: holds discourse on top of wood pile that used to be arts and crafts section.
ben_vulpes: "baby, we're well beyond 'middle class'. d'you remember how 'middle class' for our parents went? the 2 cars outside would be new, and we'd not be pent up in 800ft^2. parts of the country can't drink well water because 'fraking'. when is bad bad enough?"
mircea_popescu: something like that. except with more brimstone and firebrand.
ben_vulpes: gotta kill a bunch of dreams first
mircea_popescu: you got plenty of time.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: when is latvia going to dump the eu for putin's sweet embrace?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, ask Framedragger neh ?
mircea_popescu: i shall however presently dump teh irc for ... well, a sweet embrace.
BingoBoingo: !!up soneelks
deedbot: soneelks voiced for 30 minutes.
soneelks: i must confess its not rly sonelks but the election is near
soneelks: its vex
soneelks: can we stuff ballets or does the lordship have a preference?
soneelks: so thats 8 zero fucks: enjoy your lunch
soneelks: if i might, you cunts are stylish as fuck
soneelks: so, it's lamb with abllet dancers
soneelks: *ballet
soneelks: (it's actually goat but the chef says it's lamb)
soneelks: okay so now i look like a total faggot. just let me know if you need anything
soneelks: oh those are big screen tvs sir
soneelks: they barely work
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563302 << what passes for 'real college' these days? ("anything outside of usgschwitz" is a bit of a cop-out)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 12:26 mircea_popescu: kids who go to real college where they learn real science also learn intrinsically this, that to asq a question is to beg for money, and to disguise your questions as anything else is felonious. so they get an over-active self censor. meanwhile the idiots who do not go to real college, but to fake empire college learn that they can overpower their better peers through sheer gab. because "human rights" and "freedom of speech"
adlai: also !~later tell vexual or whatever you call yourself these days, telling me "you can PM me too" but then never being online, and changing nicks, is not a great way to get PMed
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554171 << meanwhile a tale from the local unreal-college-cum-kindergarden: "in this class, i teach you classical mechanics. we will not cover quantum mechanics, which tells you how small things behave over small distances; nor special relativity, which describes the behavior of things at high speeds; nor general relativity, which describes the effect of standing next to
a111: Logged on 2016-10-09 03:59 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyJN3R_TbcY << will leave this here.
adlai: your mother"
ben_vulpes: remedial physics or what
ben_vulpes received his assembly instruction manual for the corvette today, has been a solid remedial american cars course so far
ben_vulpes: also holy heck computers ruined cars, not in their automation but in the inane horseshit the engineers crapped out once they could re-diddle every part every year
ben_vulpes also went for a ride in a friend's lotus elise, a car that basically does not change from year to year
adlai: supposedly "this chemistry department is the one that has the most non-chemistry (ie, physics and math) prerequisites of all chemistry departments in israel, maybe even the entire world" ...mkay
adlai: ben_vulpes: i assume this is more of an "owner's manual" type thing, and you're not now staring at twenty crates of corvette parts that you're gonna put together yourself?
adlai would not object to the latter, given time and space to work; but doesn't think they make'em like that anymore?
ben_vulpes: adlai: no, this is an actual assembly manual.
ben_vulpes: repro, but a very fine one.
ben_vulpes: the car is ~intact. the AIM is a reference tome on how it went together in the first place.
adlai: so, still useful for best ways to replace parts that wear?
ben_vulpes: i have 2 smallish repairs on the docket: replacing the seatbelt and fixing the blend door in the HVAC system. coming up with a plan for the first was trivial, once i had assembly plans for the seats and restraints in hand. i have a bead on how to diagnose the hvac blend as well, similarly derived from the heat control actuator harness assembly diagrams.
ben_vulpes: odds are that The Vacuum System actuating the blend door is leaking. upside is that this may take my idle from 1050 down to 800 (and possibly even reclaim some HP) if i do plug some leaks.
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563741 << btw, excuse my nitpicks, but 'crack' is actually the verb for separating the various hydrocarbons apart from crude
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 20:24 ben_vulpes: semi tempted to spin up a portland/oregon city water taxi just to crack more hydrocarbons apart.
ben_vulpes: yeah, i'm aware that it's a term of art in the refining biz.
ben_vulpes: burning them is a further reduction in chain length.
adlai: er that's not quite right either. confirming that i didn't spew nonsense into the internet reveals that, while cracking does describe part of the process of turning heterogenous crude into several homogenous smaller-chain hydrocarbons, it typically does involve breaking bonds
adlai: but iiuc combustion is a pretty total obliteration of chains. co2 isn't often referred to as 1,1-methandione, is it?
ben_vulpes: not unless you're trying to ruin the joke, no
adlai takes off hat, for dearly departed joke
ben_vulpes: rip joke
ben_vulpes: hydrocarbons refine well into high-grade fun and a fine fog of single-link carbon chains.
ben_vulpes waits for adlai to ask "what the heck kind of chain has a single link, anyways"
adlai: twice deprotonated formaldehyde?
ben_vulpes: k.peg
ben_vulpes: oh good grief and in which i discover https://www.planetoftheapps.com/
mircea_popescu: ok, so i'm ready to adjudicate in the matter of the hallo ween st. elliot fanfic contest.
mircea_popescu: it is an interesting task, because the entries all suffer from the same affliction, which is formalism, but suffer from it in very different ways. bingoboingo's has a very formal composition - he's deliberately and evidently put anything & the kitchen sink in there ; diana's very formally constructed, she starts from a tiny base in stark contrast to bingoboingo's all-engulfing endlessness then follows all the angles methodica
mircea_popescu: lly resulting in something like a sugar cube ; hanbot's formal in form, which either through inhabituation or because poetry is an actual and legitimate artform (which seems rather dubious to be honest) is less grating than the other two.
mircea_popescu: therefore i proclaim her the winner, with the mention that while none of the participants are exactly yet shakespeare, they're certainly much further down the path of shakespearing than the common man, and so congratulations!
diana_coman: congrats hanbot
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1563912 << anything where half or more of the hopefuls fail to make it in, AND half or more of the first year fails to pass into 2nd. it must be selective in this sense, with an understanding that most extant fenotypes are biological failures of no further interest or value.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 06:25 adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563302 << what passes for 'real college' these days? ("anything outside of usgschwitz" is a bit of a cop-out)
mircea_popescu: a fake college is on the contrary, one built on the insane premise that there's a space and a future for all walkers.
adlai will keep a rough headcount as the years pass
mircea_popescu: should be directly obvious. do the teachers publicly rebuff students for being inadequate and ask them to leave ?
mircea_popescu: if not, not real college.
adlai: i've yet to witness a student getting thrown out of a lecture at TAU (was done reasonably often by certain teachers at exeter), although - they often basically tell students to shut up and ask questions privately afterwards
mircea_popescu: fake college.
asciilifeform: a bit more complicated, where i went to school we had ~both~ types, on one campus
mircea_popescu: that's what they do at wellesley.
mircea_popescu: college works exactly like greenspun memorialized : "the reason you are having trouble with this problem is because you aren't very smart and aren't woking very hard."
mircea_popescu: he failed to include the "please go away", but anyway.
BingoBoingo: congrats hanbot
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as oft happens, they make whore (camp followers, whatever) quarters as close as practicable.
mircea_popescu: ironically this makes army (at least in the pre 90s implementation) very much a college ; which is a determination i stand by.
adlai: congratulations hanbot !
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Haynes, Chilton, or is there a more exotic third party manual because cool car?
shinohai cheers hanbot! [~]D
adlai: BingoBoingo to answer your http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-30#1560313, along with http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562925, my time lately is taken up with navigating kindergarden in search of any shreds of 'realcollege' waiting to be picked up
a111: Logged on 2016-10-30 04:24 BingoBoingo: Thus concludes my entry into the Elliot fanfic contest. Your move adlai!
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 17:48 asciilifeform snored and continues to snoar through it.
mircea_popescu: is that a dildohat ?
shinohai: Would you care to buy some boulders in #eulora? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGu82LQ5ZDM
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1563895 << heh! plenty o' russians in latvia. i think 2020 is the year when the eu bribe moneys for the baltics will begin to dry up, so maybe about that time? lithuania on the other hand is in full "satan putin is preparing for nuclear" warmongering mode. helps the centre-right party and its "foreign policy" line
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 05:21 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: when is latvia going to dump the eu for putin's sweet embrace?
Framedragger: it's a funny set of "countries"
mircea_popescu: hey, given two 16yo friends, one of which is in full "he is totally satan evil guy" and the other "hey, my current bf is buying me a car, but maybe once he loses his job", which do you think you fuck first ?
Framedragger: the latter appears more rational and therefore to a degree more sexy, but the former may be into s/m
Framedragger: so not sure
mircea_popescu: we're discussing what they do not what you do.
mircea_popescu: the strength of feeling is what matters, not its "direction", esp not as self-reported by the feeler.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i can't bridge the parallel in my mind.
mircea_popescu: well, all baltics are 16 yo.
Framedragger: for sure.
Framedragger: i guess the former may have more 'spirit'
mircea_popescu: what's the term, last minute resistance
Framedragger: i see the point. yah, it's more funky that way
Framedragger: so that's cute
mircea_popescu: anyway, who the fuck knows, just dicking around
mircea_popescu: o wait, has trump won yet ?
mircea_popescu just remembered it's today innit ?
Framedragger: boy you should see the headlines on the most popular online "news portal". right now top page has "COULD THE THIRD WORLD BE STARTING _HERE_?" http://i.imgur.com/pwSfF1R.png
mircea_popescu: aww no election results yet ? wtf is this.
Framedragger: yeah! such a nice day
mircea_popescu: ohohohohoh
mircea_popescu: check this shit out :
Framedragger: ahh, good stuff
mircea_popescu: i guess these must be the ones without diebolix machines ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger mind you : he has a 32-25 margin over clinton IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
mircea_popescu: i guess that "firewall" was mostly made of shit.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you qntra or shall i ?
Framedragger: yeah i thought it was leftist weed central or sth
asciilifeform: margin in... 'towns with population < 100' ??
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so ?
mircea_popescu: what, "i make a loss on every sale but i hope to make it up on volume" ?
adlai has been in polling stations, more than 100 people vote in 'cities'
mircea_popescu: new hampshire traditionally has the early closed ballots because all the small towns can close as soon as all ballots are cast and the residents usually show up at midnight and vote.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/ << Qntra - Trump carries early New Hampshire
PeterL voted this morning, was number 53 in the precinct
mod6: Mr. Popescu, Lords, and General Assembly: Today, I'd like to take a moment to observe and congratulate The Most Serene Republic on it's Second Independence Day!
mod6: Viva TMSR~, Salud!
trinque cheers, whistles
mod6: o7
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at trump's nubile slave camp (built on the grounds of the previous university of maryland), http://68.media.tumblr.com/a05108e779e29c701a843635d51d37e9/tumblr_n7blnb5eUz1r81lgko1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: mod6 hear hear!
mod6: hanbot: also congrats on your song!
shinohai blows vuvuzela behind the woman sitting next to mod6
hanbot would like to thank her fellow contestants for their literary companionship, and the congratulators for their congratulations, the republic for its independence, and reserva san juan.
hanbot: cheers all
asciilifeform: lel, asciilifeform is standing in queue to stuff 'paper ballot' into... diebold scanner.
asciilifeform: suuuuch paper
asciilifeform: suuuch undiebolding.
asciilifeform: 'colour the circles!'
BingoBoingo woke up today an undecided voter. It was weird. I had every intention of voting for my boy Gary Johnson, but on the drive to the polling place uncertainty hit me. And this the 124th ballot in the 5th precinct of Helvitia township in Madison County, Illinois was submitted for the TrumpenReich
BingoBoingo hits the showers
PeterL: people keep telling me that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump (because it is somehow stealing a vote from Hillary, who we only want to vote for to stop the monster Trump), so I guess I voted for TrumpReich too
asciilifeform: heil tritler.
danielpbarron abstains from voting
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Doing the math for myself and seeing how empty the box of registered voter cards was it appeared that in my jurisdiction voting Johnson would have been stealing from Trump to help Hillary. #MakeIllinoisASwingState
mircea_popescu: lol reserva san juan
mircea_popescu: (local brandy)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dun worry about it, they'll fix it later if the counts don't come out right
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, they'll just have more undeaded ballots next door in St Clair County to balance it out.
mircea_popescu: PeterL those people read way too much myspace, which is how they ended up with the notion that hillary has a chance or something.
mircea_popescu: generally in bipartisan systems a vote downlist has principally the effect of hurting the favorite. that much is correct. nevertheless, the notion that hillary's a favourite is ludicrous.
mircea_popescu: she lost fucking nh, she's going to carry california and thaqt's it. first presidential candidate with <10% of electoral votes in the history of that empire.
PeterL: Landon only got about 1% of electoral votes
mircea_popescu: PeterL ima cop out and say the empire only begins post ww2.
PeterL: Mondale only got 2.4 %
PeterL: or does he not count either?
mircea_popescu: ima man up and admit i have nfi what i'm talking about then!
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even knew someone actually ran against reagan 2.
BingoBoingo: !~google alf landon
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Alf Landon - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf_Landon>; United States presidential election, 1936 - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1936>; Alf Landon , G.O.P. Stand-Bearer, Dies at 100 - The New York Times: <http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0909.html>
mircea_popescu: (gotta admit mondale totally looks the part)
PeterL: I have seen a bunch of memes popping up on arsebook praising Obummer for having "8 years with no scandals", they seem to forget that the scandals plaguing Hillary stem from her time as part of the Obummer administration
mircea_popescu: they also seem to forget the five or so times putin pulled his pants down and fucked him like a little bitch in front of intl orgs.
mircea_popescu: or the time his inept healthcare bill nearly sent the country into insolvency.
PeterL: but at least he hasn't had any sexual scandals come to light! (yet)
mircea_popescu: or the time he destroyed the last shreds of respectability for the supreme court, what with the tax that's not a tax.
mircea_popescu: or the other five thousand billion times.
BingoBoingo: Also Obola had scandals "Fast and Furious", "Malia Twerking", etc
PeterL: prog: puts hands over ears "la la la I can't hear you, you racist!"
mircea_popescu: right. there were no scandals because he's dumb and deaf.
PeterL: Obama remais a clean slate, everything just slides off him, and the progs still project all their pet policies onto him despite his actual actions to the contrary
mircea_popescu: iirc indiana and kentucky close at 6, so should be interesting
mircea_popescu: "oh, those don't count because trump won"
PeterL: right, those lean republican so they don't matter because they were already baked into the polls that they would swing trump
mircea_popescu: PeterL and the fundamental reason is that he's black and they're racist. in their minds, he's subhuman, and consequently incapable of action, intent, responsibility etc.
mircea_popescu: PeterL yeah, up until the vote turns out +20 trump rather than +4 as the polls showed.
PeterL: and the girls think he has a sexy speaking voice
mircea_popescu: the girls just think he's a tall black man with a small dick.
mircea_popescu: so a) all their friends will think they're fucking a submarine AND b) they won't actually get torn cunts.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: curious, if you're referring to obamacare re. healthcare bill, what did you mean re insolvency? or was that more in jest? ACA reduced budget deficit; but my knowledge is very superficial, so..
mircea_popescu: it was not in jest. you recall the shutdown ?
Framedragger: not particularly. states were able to opt out of ACA which was not in the original plan; but the shutdown?
Framedragger possibly behind on the times
mircea_popescu: !#s government shutdown
a111: 15 results for "government shutdown", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=government%20shutdown
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: oh, that. budget not getting approved, you mean
Framedragger: sure, that was a shitshow
mircea_popescu: no, i mean obama fucking up with his healthcare bill and nearly sending the country into insolvency thereby.
Framedragger: but i thought it was just a negotiating tactic by the republicans - had happened before
mircea_popescu: unless you want to put it on the same sex marriage idiocy, but this is bestowing unwarranted importance on the faggot party.
mircea_popescu: lol. and what else, putin just didn't understand how the world works ?
mircea_popescu: "negotiation tactic". obama fucked up the healthcare.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, they all AGREE today that he fucked it up. and it "needs to be fixed".
Framedragger: (re. putin, can't see how one could disagree there)
mircea_popescu: somehow they ALSO all omit to point out that a) they were wrong and b) the others were right ; or propose any sort of penitence, such as you know, hanging themselves.
Framedragger: i thought part of the fuck up was "what happens if you pass half of the bill through". something like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542331
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 14:47 Framedragger: mein gott. decided to deploy one of the newer 'productivity web apps' for work, official install is through docker, and *obviously* official docker install is `wget -qO- https://get.docker.com/ | sh`. BUT LOOK at the end of that legit2000.sh is:
mircea_popescu: it was badly thought out, badly written, bad all through.
mircea_popescu: it's always tempting to say that "this dish is shit, but let me add some sauce", as if the superset of shit somehow redeems the individual turds.
Framedragger: right, okay, fair enough.
mircea_popescu: it never works. but what's a bureaucrat to say.
PeterL: the year obamacare came into effect my health insurance cost went up 300%, with the same coverage
mircea_popescu: his experience is not that atypical.
Framedragger: what a clusterfuck
mircea_popescu: basically the whole thing was about govt corps needing a new prop for their feltering bezzle fortune. and he acquiesced. and the idiots think he's a democrat.
mircea_popescu: the result of letting the kids on reddit instead of keeping them chained to a pole half the day with water and quarterly whippings.
PeterL: and reports are that it will go up ~25% this year, I think that may have been one of the things tipping the polls away from clinton at the last moment
mircea_popescu: last moment my foot she's been bleeding votes over it all summer.
BingoBoingo: PeterL: 25% is the least it is going up depending on your ZIP code
mircea_popescu: the idiots may think that unreported crime/fires/rapes/whatever never happened, but it's not how it works.
PeterL: well, there was a visible change in the reported polls over the last couple weeks, that is what I am referring to
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they raped him more last time because "not in electorally sensitive locale". the people who got it easy then for that reason are getting shafted now
mircea_popescu: it all balances out, so that the usg can pretend it has a gdp and the oligarchy can pretend it's in business.
mircea_popescu: the business of squandering the tax receipts, but w/e.
PeterL: basic economics: if they wanted prices to go down they should have increased supply (hire more doctors), instead they increased demand (forced everybody to buy the "insurance")
PeterL: suprise suprise, the cost went up
mircea_popescu: they can't hire more doctors, because they're already hiring all the doctors that exist.
trinque: speaking of the motherfucking health care, my premium for the shittiest plan that's available just went up by 32%
PeterL: they could pay to put more people through doctor school, or something
mircea_popescu: the only way out is to separate medical care from social security ; and to shoot anyone found to have engaged in fraud for the past decade.
trinque: but it is not a tax y'see!
mircea_popescu: PeterL right, because if i put more people through the clothes shredder i'll get more supermodels right ?
trinque: because they launder it through an "insurance company"
PeterL: there is also the stupid US practice of tying health insurance to your employment, instead of having an open market
PeterL: I don't expect car insurance to be covered by my employer, why is health insurance different?
trinque: has nothing to do with health
trinque: it's a poll tax
PeterL: I thought that was one of the things obummercare was supposed to fix, but it seems the only options offered are hyperexpensive
mircea_popescu: the us health care problem has only one solution, and it's compressive not expansive. a) shoot all the malades imaginaires (such as, fine example, https://archive.is/yyQny). these literally have to be shot, no possible two ways about it ; b) make it impossible for doctors to give the patient benefits. no days off from work ; no financial payments dependent on what doctor says on paper. nothing. no more painkillers of any kind
mircea_popescu: dispensed in the us by health insurance.
mircea_popescu: once that's done, 98 to 99.9% of all "costs" suddenly vanish, and suddenly you get a sane health system.
mircea_popescu: make it illegal to medicalize convenience, of all kinds. i get it that it'd be convenient for the politicians if the doctors distributed social payola to the poor under the pretense of "health". dun work that way regardless.
PeterL: ^ WTF, why does this derp think we want to hear about their sinus infection? What is wrong with these people?
mircea_popescu: much like black mold, they took advantage of a dirty environment and spread.
mircea_popescu: but she's the reason for MOST of the medical costs.
mircea_popescu: (if you don't understand who "alexandra erin" is, see http://archive.is/km1CJ <--> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469868 ).
a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 20:33 mircea_popescu: and what's worse, the "wiki" style is proven not to work. even something originally as promising as tvtropes has over the years decayed into this unfunny collection of tiresome goop.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/MtHw7 << meanwhile, in the ~other~ india.
asciilifeform: 'Rs 500 and 1000 currency notes stand abolished from midnight: PM Modi Live update of PM Narendra Modi's address to the Nation. Corruption, terrorism, black money weakening the nation.'
mircea_popescu: india wanna be india.
asciilifeform: '“Banks will be closed tomorrow. It will cause some hardship to you….Let us ignore these hardships… In country’s history, there comes a moment when people will want to participate in the nation building and reconstruction. Very few such moments come in life,” Modi said.'
asciilifeform: coming soon to an india near you (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: they're so fucked...
mircea_popescu: traditionally the arab horde fought west first, east 2nd.
asciilifeform: and holy fuck, hour+ queue for ONE (yes, one) ballotron.
mircea_popescu: lol. but why, aren't you in a blue state ?
asciilifeform: as blue as it gets.
asciilifeform: they simply did not see any reason to install >1
mircea_popescu: how do you reconcile this with the grand lizzard plan ?
asciilifeform: interestingly, the thing had a counter display
asciilifeform: it said something like '391 ballots; 1400 protected ballots'
asciilifeform: i have nfi what the latter refers to.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and holy fuck, hour+ queue for ONE (yes, one) ballotron. << It took two minutes to check in and take myself to one one the many booths. Even with pollig place crowded.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol. but why, aren't you in a blue state ? << "Blue" areas for some reason have shit voting infrastructure though "Blue" Politicians talk of making voting easier. Meanwhile in "Red" areas voting just works.
trinque: same, though I went last week. only lulz were some old guy yelling at staff about how he's been voting for 40 years and so on.
trinque: in and out in ~5min
BingoBoingo: Likely hypothesis is "blue" areas suck because of all the rigging that has to be navigated around without tripping. Thus adventures the good shit socialism on the sulphur sea of lies.
BingoBoingo: !~google hubbard franks st louis
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bruce Franks Jr. Beats Penny Hubbard in Special Election ...: <http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2016/09/16/bruce-franks-jr-beats-penny-hubbard-in-special-election-landslide>; Judge orders new election for Hubbard / Franks state representative ...: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rubbish infrastructure because they dun actually ~count~ them ballots, and annoyed when too many chumps show up to fill the useless bin
BingoBoingo: ^Someone tripped and fell overboard
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Naturally. They prolly count the undead ballots where you are
asciilifeform: btw in state of md all you need to vote is the name, street addr, and bday of somebody registered.
asciilifeform: they 'ideologically' refuse to see any papers etc.
mircea_popescu: and no pubkeys either amirite.
asciilifeform: no tits either.
asciilifeform: ^ seekrit-evidence trial.
asciilifeform: e.g., 'This case is complex because it involves classified discovery that requires a top secret clearance to review. In order to make use of the classified discovery at trial, counsel will have to engage in CIPA litigation. This requires that defense counsel be able to review the discovery, determine a trial strategy and decide what discovery and evidence will be necessaryfor trial, in advance of the currentlyscheduled hearing date o
asciilifeform: f July 5. Defense counsel received the discovery in a SCIF on June 13, 2016. This includes, however, a disc of emails that cannot currently be reviewed, as a secure computer has not yet been provided, as well as the files of the case agents, which are also classified and were not previously available to counsel..'
mircea_popescu: lol. defendant's counsel is unable to review 1tb of data in a foreign language + 36k individual records also in a foreign language made available by prosecution a week before trial date.
mircea_popescu: consequently, public defendant todd richman will take over.
mircea_popescu: because why, todd richman is magically able to read and comprehend data at that rate ?
asciilifeform: because you know what.
asciilifeform: these have become tediously predictable.
mircea_popescu: pretty much.
asciilifeform: oh, strange:
asciilifeform: the original pdf had the offered plea agreement
asciilifeform: it didn't ocr.
asciilifeform: i had never previously seen these iirc.
asciilifeform: quite a read.
asciilifeform: the indictment itself is also non-ocr'd apparently.
asciilifeform: d00d is on trial for having clitlered away some secret map etc.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the internets never heard of this mohan nirala before.
mircea_popescu: sez google.
trinque: hey, FBI could review 650k e-mails in however many days
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: noshit.jpg. unsealed doc.
trinque: top minds in govt
mircea_popescu: trinque yes but those weren't classified.
trinque: oic
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you writing a qntra here ?
asciilifeform: 'willful retention of national defense information.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no, it is fair game for who wants to.
asciilifeform: ( BingoBoingo ? )
BingoBoingo handsfull
mircea_popescu: well any of the aspiring young'uns looking for stuff to do works.
mircea_popescu: back to the lulzpocalypse, there's exactly 0 reporting on early voting / outside-the-booth polls / etc from the pantsuit media.
mircea_popescu: apparently it looks THAT bad.
asciilifeform: 'clinton declared winner in guam'
asciilifeform: 'Barring a frightening and horrifying upset, later tonight Hillary Clinton will make history when she becomes the first woman to ever be elected president of the United States.' -- british fishwrap
mircea_popescu: wsj is also running red.
asciilifeform: (last 4, really)
mircea_popescu: who, m00t ?
shinohai: "Votes from Guam, however, don’t count, as the island has no representation in the Electoral College. "
mircea_popescu: story of her life.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://elections16.usatoday.com/outlook/presidential << plenty of 'reporting'. complete with the hardcoded clitler.
trinque: that's just exit polls
trinque: not actual vote tallies
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 17:38 mircea_popescu: back to the lulzpocalypse, there's exactly 0 reporting on early voting / outside-the-booth polls / etc from the pantsuit media.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/soylents-attempt-to-scapegoat-soy-sinks/ << Qntra - Soylent's Attempt To Scapegoat Soy Sinks
BingoBoingo: ^ Far more future influence than Trump-Clinton vs. Rodham-Clinton
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: s/is not an uncommon phenomena/is not an uncommon phenomenon/ (singular, not plural) i think?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/axayN << holy shit, ~chinese~ !?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1564028 << ah, the once-every-four-years reminder that the rest of the country has to actually work to vote
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 15:37 asciilifeform: lel, asciilifeform is standing in queue to stuff 'paper ballot' into... diebold scanner.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: they have mail-in etc. here but there is 0 sport in it.
ben_vulpes: we throw parties, drink, argue over every single seat and pencil the boxes in on our mail-in ballots
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: Plural or what? Everyone hates the same protein folded the same way?
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: "Digestive intolerance of unfamiliar plant proteins is not an uncommon phenomena" -> phenomena, i thought, refers to the subject, i.e. "digestive intolerance", which is a singular (not many phenomena, but a single: intolerance)
Framedragger: (modern english is not an inflected language; latin is more inflected. "phenomenon" is a latin word. suffix "on" here denotes singular; "a" denotes plural. but this is probably known, apologies if patronizing tone)
BingoBoingo: It's a weird thing because plants and proteins. It a slural
Framedragger: probably multiple valid ways of interpreting that sentence anyway :)
BingoBoingo: Which is why it is agriCULTURE
trinque: but either is/phenomenon or are/phenomena eh?
Framedragger: i think so, yeah
Framedragger: hence tripped grammar wire in my head
trinque: yar
BingoBoingo: fine, fxing
asciilifeform: incidentally, anybody else's trb node under 'askfor tx somecrapolade' ddos ?
BingoBoingo: not that I've seen. Recent set of debug.log lines looks normal http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/yzxom/?raw=true
trinque: asciilifeform: deedbot actually looks blackholed
trinque: miles of "socket no message in first 60 seconds"
asciilifeform: mine is simply fed shit all day, by virtually all connecters, to slow it.
asciilifeform: the 'something to allcomers' days are drawin' to a close.
asciilifeform: and mining, which ultimately forces this situation, is idiotic bug.
trinque: what would an alternative look like? blocks are somehow deterministic?
asciilifeform: aaaaand now zoolag blackholed, instead.
trinque: lel
asciilifeform: trinque: there were several threads re this unsolved problem.
asciilifeform: (afaik it is very much unsolved.)
trinque: mhm, was just wondering if you favored an option
trinque: blackhole started at 2016-11-08_18:20:30.28655 UTC over here
asciilifeform: i would say, if i did.
asciilifeform: i do not expect to see any beautiful solutions to the mining problem.
asciilifeform: and you are already familiar with the basic ugly solutions.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo he's right you know.
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/l8hg0/?raw=true << THIS type of blackhole is 'false blackhole', it comes from the idiot engine not knowing how to answer ANY message if a block is being verified
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sorry, the spirit of the TrumpReich was too strong at that moment, has been fxd
asciilifeform: (which, recall, happens SERIALLY and quite slowly)
asciilifeform: global lock!1111
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform going right back to the "mempool != blockpool" issue
asciilifeform: mempool really belongs chopped cleanly out of trb.
asciilifeform: wholly optional process.
mircea_popescu: "food replacement start up Soylent is suffering the in wake a a severe" << is it suffering the ?
BingoBoingo: ty fxd
BingoBoingo: fxd even though looking back at typo Soylent could be gravely suffering from "the"
mircea_popescu: i think it's a decent meme. "don't make me make you suffer the."
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/xG9s7 << meanwhile, at the circus..
BingoBoingo: The, the plague of their time
mircea_popescu: RUSSIAN CYBERATTIX!
BingoBoingo: There's a monster in the AttiX
mircea_popescu: they're so delightfully idiotic, these people. "oh, major power is looking to influence elections in shithole. THIS IS SO UNPRECEDENTED!!1"
BingoBoingo: Free Nortiega!
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ObIUo << lizards show 0 fear.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the volume is ~0. they're petrified.
mircea_popescu: the only story worth telling in financial, and so obv the only story you won't ever read, is that this election already has been the last straw - new york is no longer the world's financial center.
asciilifeform: eh that's not mega-seekrit. e.g., http://oper.ru/video/view.php?t=1774 , (mega-bl0gg3r d00d) puchkov interviews fella who runs a spin-molded steel pipe plant. they buy allows (internally, in ru!) by london market prices.
mircea_popescu: eh. london's not been the center of the world's finances since soros raped it at the latest.
asciilifeform: where then, center? shamballa in nazi antarctica ?
mircea_popescu: prolly before. the way these things work there's definite events that make it obvious and indisputable, but the thing was prolly rotten before.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in asia.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they, like ru, produce own pipe, and ~none for export. it's a strategic commodity.
mircea_popescu: your ideas on the topic are entirely reality-free.
asciilifeform: ru -- now, apparently, exports, softened ruble made it a mega-deal.
asciilifeform: i have 0 ideas on the topic, only what's in the lint trap.
mircea_popescu: china mostly produces for export, still.
asciilifeform: incl. reactor vessel pipe ?
mircea_popescu: we're discussing finance here, not narrow one-offs.
asciilifeform: i will believe mircea_popescu if he says this, personally i must admit, never bought even centimetre of this pipe.
asciilifeform: nor stock therein, etc.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1564255 << funny feeling here, similar to that of when the $ecomm cluster went down because one of the 'frontend engineers' self-ddossed the site with javascripts
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 18:43 asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/l8hg0/?raw=true << THIS type of blackhole is 'false blackhole', it comes from the idiot engine not knowing how to answer ANY message if a block is being verified
ben_vulpes: semi relatedly, if anyone wants shorter urls for pastes, try p.bvulpes.com
ben_vulpes: same ip as before, for those hand-tending the /etc/hosts bonsai
mircea_popescu: why not b-v.com or such
mircea_popescu: gotta find a combo that's unregistered
asciilifeform: for the ancient vehicle aficionados --- http://www.worksperfect.com .
asciilifeform: domain regged in '04...
asciilifeform: 'archive.org' has 1 single solitary cache, https://web.archive.org/web/20110203180222/http://www.worksperfect.com/ , he was hawking some ~other~ machine
trinque: my node is back to accepting txn; looks like yep, just was gagged on a block ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: holy doodle i'd no idea
asciilifeform: trinque: quite often happens here.
mircea_popescu: +30 iq points from #trilema
ben_vulpes: ah, alas not actually available.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/jhcXw << oh noez, 'refused to promise to concede', lel.
mircea_popescu: lol the "there is no evidence" bs.
mircea_popescu: good thing that there's evidence of "carbon" blabla.
asciilifeform: 'evidence' means a very particular thing to these folx.
mircea_popescu: right, "there's no letter from hitler saying..."
PeterL: from asciilifeform link: "There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in American elections." [citation needed]
PeterL: oh, mp beat me to it
mircea_popescu: funny thing being that gaddafi said the same thing.
mircea_popescu: banana republic always comes back to its vomit or how was it.
asciilifeform: also the existence of 'coloured states' is not fraudulent because-reasons.
mircea_popescu: hey, as close to a surogate of nationality as they can muster over there.
mircea_popescu: "here is where we eat the dijon mustard"
asciilifeform: and hm, yes, very peculiarly thin real-time 'poll newz'
mircea_popescu: incidentally - the trump flame will live on! jared kushner (trump's online campaign strategist, no less) bought a piece of property at 666 5th ave for 1.8bn in 2007. by 2009 its revenue couldn't face the debt servicing so he sold it for... 1bn. therefore he won't have to pay taxes for...
mircea_popescu: im guessing he's running in 2020.
mircea_popescu: just about old enough, born 81.
asciilifeform: 'Donald Trump's campaign moved to contest the election results of battleground Nevada, claiming the registrar of Democratic-heavy Clark County kept an early voting location open two extra hours to help boost Democratic turnout. The complaint alleges a polling location in a heavily Latino part of the county stayed open past its 8 p.m. closing time, allowing people to line up and vote until 10 p.m. The Republican poll watcher said the
asciilifeform: extension allowed as many as 300 people to join the line.'
asciilifeform: ballot-diddling dun have to be electric.
asciilifeform: 'Officials across the country are worried that cyberattacks could create chaos on Election Day. The fear, they say, is not that hackers will be able to alter the vote count, but that they will be able to sow doubt in the integrity of the results.' << lelz
asciilifeform: sow doubt !!
mircea_popescu: she sow doubt had russians.
asciilifeform: she cow pig had clittens.
mircea_popescu: "hillary clinton got about thirteen million votes and won the election, but then russian hackers sowed doubt in the integrity of the results."
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1564322 << right down the street from moma . posh spot.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 20:18 mircea_popescu: incidentally - the trump flame will live on! jared kushner (trump's online campaign strategist, no less) bought a piece of property at 666 5th ave for 1.8bn in 2007. by 2009 its revenue couldn't face the debt servicing so he sold it for... 1bn. therefore he won't have to pay taxes for...
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 18:31 asciilifeform: incidentally, anybody else's trb node under 'askfor tx somecrapolade' ddos ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 18:50 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/xG9s7 << meanwhile, at the circus..
pete_dushenski: best election day ever. so many smug rats impoverished by my 'trollish' 'prediction' of trump in white house. to think one even offered to donate his shillary winnings to spca. sorry kittens, but papa pete needs new furniture this year.
asciilifeform: wai wat winnings
pete_dushenski: i bet a few different meatwotters on the us election outcome. shillary was shoe-in for 95% of 'educated' folks up north.
pete_dushenski: “The model predicted a Trump win in February and nothing has changed since then. Whatever happens in the real world doesn’t affect the model,” he said.
pete_dushenski: he == Helmut Norpoth, a political science professor at SUNY Stony Brook
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/coinbase-partnering-up-for-facial-verification-as-relevance-continues-sinking/ << Qntra - Coinbase Partnering Up For Facial Verification As Relevance Continues Sinking
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1563985 << and how! so eager, so hungry. the youf there are as close as i've seen first-hand to 'blue jeans'-level of adventurousness. whatever tensions between east and west are going on there are working like a charm. it's like the european philippines or something, everyone you meet from there is as friendly, hard-working and unpretentious as they come.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 14:20 mircea_popescu: well, all baltics are 16 yo.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1563952 << by this measure, architecture is ~the only post-secondary school carry the torch for the whole lot.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 13:57 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1563912 << anything where half or more of the hopefuls fail to make it in, AND half or more of the first year fails to pass into 2nd. it must be selective in this sense, with an understanding that most extant fenotypes are biological failures of no further interest or value.
pete_dushenski: carrying*
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: y'know, the balts did their j00z in long prior to germans showing up. and when showed up, ss barfed.
pete_dushenski is well aware.
pete_dushenski: but that was then! :P
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/black-snake-moan/ << Trilema - Black Snake Moan
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the dept of 'Жить стало лучше, жить стало веселее !', https://archive.is/xfYkX
BingoBoingo awaits pete_dushenski using his winning to reupholster ride in whale penis leather
mircea_popescu: lol wtf are you doing alf.
shinohai: ha I recall Black Snake Moan a few years ago, some weird chick watched it with me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: waiting for a $measurementproggy run..
mircea_popescu: aaanswer't.
mircea_popescu: so has america been made great again yet or what ?
mircea_popescu: ah just 5:30. mkay.
trinque: http://archive.is/FQsyF << nate silver (wot: nonperson) is already sputtering
shinohai: "Epic Clinton blowout" haz ring
asciilifeform: and about half of the 'they don't want you to know!!!' idiot ads are.. in slovenian.? or is it just from my ip.
BingoBoingo: RUSSIAN HACKERS DID 538
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: what am i, general aladeen ?
pete_dushenski: THIS ELECTION IS HIV ALADEEN!!!11!!
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well, if 95% of the money is on the other side...
pete_dushenski: 95% of the ~talk~. lol people don't put their money where their mouths are unless i goad them into it.
pete_dushenski: !#s natedog
pete_dushenski: trinque: ^^ silver has been collapsing for weeks.
pete_dushenski: i actually leveraged the democrat shill's 'data' to double-down on one of my bets lol
ben_vulpes: what's your total election exposure, pete_dushenski ?
pete_dushenski: coupla bitdimes
ben_vulpes: and what kinda odds did you get out of the progres?
pete_dushenski: just even money. i'm a generous soul like that y'know.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WKJ68jr2tM << in other balanced scales, live rt election coverage
mircea_popescu: in other insane gambling, i did a ~50 bitcent eulora click earlier today.
mircea_popescu: it... didn't pay out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the archive spider hit it from sl ip
mircea_popescu: lmao "epic clinton blowout". wtf is wrong with these people.
BingoBoingo: line dominating the lamestream: voters "holding noses at the polls"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didntcha notice that the fishwrap contents ~haven't changed all day~ !?
BingoBoingo: Of course. That's why all the talk on radio about how Kasich would have easily won in a landside had America warmed up to its physical incarnation http://qntra.net/2016/03/john-kasich-is-america/
BingoBoingo: Make America, America Again!!!
asciilifeform: or hey, have an apparent noosepiece, https://archive.is/rgCkc .
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA also reported in st louis
asciilifeform: nfi why vote-diddlage has to be done in plain sight of the victim -- other than as 'crank bait'.
BingoBoingo: Who knows, at this rate the whites in ferguson missouri might riot tonight
asciilifeform: lol white riot.
BingoBoingo: !~google wheel chair combat tactics
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Wheelchair Self Defence - Fight Times Magazine: <https://magazine.fighttimes.com/wheelchair-self-defence/>; Wheelchair Self-defense Against A Physically Stronger Attacker ...: <http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/4889-wheelchair-self-defense-against-a-physically-stronger-attacker/>; Wheelchair self defense - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DY4RkU66ys7g>
BingoBoingo: ^ asciilifeform possible
asciilifeform: or hm, this is still based on that vilage with popcount 100..?
asciilifeform: i quite distinctly recall this nonsense last time, btw, where the 'real time tickers' shows 0 'blue' until last possible moment, to maximize obummer turnout.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/93wRP << lizard psyops begin.
ben_vulpes: heeeee natesilver's website still shows 70+% likelihood that clinton would take nh
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-08#1564306 << 'arrested development' (fox tv show) was brought back once before, unfortunately. whereas family guy was also cancelled after a few seasons before getting the christ-on-easter treatment, cartoons don't have, actors do. and the +5yo actors on arrested development were ~the saddest reunion of hollow meatsacks since cheers.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 19:52 mircea_popescu: and in other chicks-with-opinions, http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/occupy_204.jpg
pete_dushenski: for any of you who watched the early (and quite excellent) seasons of ae and also caught a glimpse of 'season 4', you'll fully appreciate the horror that was lindsay bluth (portia de rossi, ellen's bitch) 's frozen in carbonite face... it was tragic.
pete_dushenski: it was a stellar advertisement for the dangers of plastic surgery, and of aging in general in and around beverly hills
asciilifeform: in other gary condits, 'Victim pushed off Times Square reportedly was Blackstone CEO Schwarzman's housekeeper.'
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/8umzR << 200k votes counted according to cnn. trump leading 68-28!!
BingoBoingo: Trump Leading Kentucky and Indiana returns
pete_dushenski: watch the final numbers be exactly trump 2/3 to shillary 1/4 with the change for gary.
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/nOAbY << didn't see in logs but day-old nooze that hillary cancelled her fireworks spectacle for nyc
asciilifeform: in other 'news', i ended up learning that entirely working 1-2seat petrol-powered airplanes cost less (secondhand) than pete_dushenski's cheapest car. how come he ain't got one yet ??
asciilifeform: 10-20k in, e.g., 'ebay'.
pete_dushenski: because i don't want to 'have accident' ?
asciilifeform: can 'have accident' in auto just as well.
asciilifeform: like hastings.
asciilifeform: if i had to pick, i'd rather burn in a plane, more humane.
pete_dushenski: burn in a tesla, biggest fireworz
asciilifeform: electric chair!11
pete_dushenski: li-ion powered
pete_dushenski: anyways, for as much as i love cars, i'd be quite content to have a chauffeur 95% of the time. and for flying a chauffeur is just fine by me 100% of the time.
asciilifeform: aah i laboured under the impression that pete_dushenski is one of those odd folk who enjoys operating weird vehicle.
asciilifeform: possibly confused with ben_vulpes on this count.
pete_dushenski: i enjoy objets d'art
asciilifeform: he -- has 0 excuse not to buy 'grumman yankee' which costs less even, apparently, than my ancient car.
pete_dushenski: and driving very fast
asciilifeform: 'grumman' goes fast.
asciilifeform: (not a mig, but nobody's buying a mig for 25btc)
pete_dushenski: aha. ben_vulpes does own wrenching on old murican metal. i enjoy the relationships with my mechanics and learning about how each of them is designed as various pieces break and sundry fluids leak out.
pete_dushenski: them = cars, not mechanics
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You know you want to "rise above" those filthy other drivers on the road http://www2.crown.com/au/forklifts/stockpickers-sp-overview.html
pete_dushenski: haha is that for bezos' minions ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: No, Amazon doesn't do vertical. They spread horizontal.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCL9Q3LnSPY << to really rise above, drive new(!) lada niva.
asciilifeform: 'One killed, three injured in shooting near Los Angeles-area polling place'
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Just imagine "popemobile" style box on elevated platform
asciilifeform: why the FUCK does archive.is permit js crapolade in captured object to run?!
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: needs more gelandewagen then.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: At that point you just call Xibit and have him pimp your ride
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ain't nobody got time for a pilots license under this regime
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i confess, i have not followed subj -- did it get more painful under obummer ?
ben_vulpes: i wouldn't know, was never interested in license before
ben_vulpes finds planes precisely as interesting as cars
ben_vulpes: interesting rubiks cubes, things for le progre to gawk at
asciilifeform: g-wagen cannot be imho anything but gasenwagen.
ben_vulpes: g 'wagon', here at least.
BingoBoingo: http://www2.crown.com/au/forklifts/gas-forklifts-16-18-ton-index.html << Promising chassis for next tearing apart of town
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yankee looks like a neat toy
ben_vulpes: may buy for $bzprtnr
asciilifeform: lolwhy, ben_vulpes gets his shares if he croaks ?
ben_vulpes: who is some 80% of the way to his license
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the arrangement's intimacy boggles the mind
ben_vulpes: but let's put it like this -- i'd not have to pay for pilotage
BingoBoingo: And now returns noise starts
ben_vulpes: roast dems
BingoBoingo: ATM goole is calling electoral vote 19-3 with TrumpReich seizing kentucky and Indiana but losing... Vermont
asciilifeform: snoar, they have not yet counted the chunk of florida that was racereplaced with reliable orcs, etc.
BingoBoingo: Google also has Florida oscillating colots
BingoBoingo: *colors
asciilifeform: the 'colour kaleidoscope' was perfected in '08 map-ticker.
BingoBoingo: Existed in 2004
asciilifeform: lel, NH flipped
ben_vulpes: thought that was closed somehow
trinque: ben_vulpes: most of these are still in single digit % reporting
trinque: FL 11% now
trinque: florida being the infested cock that it is, I wouldn't be surprised if they're still farting around tomorrow
asciilifeform: trinque: looks gift-wrapped for clitler, if one believes the map
BingoBoingo: Trump still leading popular vote
asciilifeform: shame that dun do anything.
BingoBoingo: By ~360,000
ben_vulpes: “dollar spooked in asia as us polls too close to call” -- reuters
ben_vulpes: doll?
ben_vulpes: DOLL?
ben_vulpes: there is some heinous shit happening in os x these days.
ben_vulpes: i've no idea, but i get "doll spooked" somehow
BingoBoingo: Trumpreich leading popular vote by 400 kiloballots
asciilifeform: lel, FL supposedly ~100 people apart.
trinque: texas blue with 1% reporting!1!?2?!
trinque: this whole business of anticipating the results is idiocy
trinque: just finish and publish, wtf
trinque: the inability of anyone in this country to restrain herself is built into the process.
mircea_popescu: zherself!
asciilifeform: go trumplincton.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 23:55 pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/8umzR << 200k votes counted according to cnn. trump leading 68-28!!
mircea_popescu: currently standing 50% to 46.2%
mircea_popescu: 19.6mn to 18.1 mn ; 128 to 97 electoral votes
mircea_popescu: dude totally swept the midwest look at that.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-09 00:05 asciilifeform: (not a mig, but nobody's buying a mig for 25btc)
mircea_popescu: people have bought cars for btc sums that'd suffice to buy a frigate.
asciilifeform: aha, and i gotta wait for mthreat to write his masterpiece 'how to mig', and then read it !1111
a111: Logged on 2016-11-09 01:04 BingoBoingo: By ~360,000
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-09#1564499 << honeslty i think florida does that just for the drama. "get numbers from random.org for the last 3 digfits"
a111: Logged on 2016-11-09 01:19 asciilifeform: lel, FL supposedly ~100 people apart.
mircea_popescu: lmao at all the reports about how "hillary clinton leads" and "clinton on eve of presidency" etc.
mircea_popescu: this is going to be such a lulzy wed
mod6: :D
BingoBoingo: OMG TRUMPREICH!!!
mircea_popescu: still 1.5mn ahead, check him out.
mircea_popescu: 68mn turnout is already pretty good.
mircea_popescu: iirc obama 1-2 were at like 80-85mn
asciilifeform: 'global markets tumble' oh noeezzz!11111
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/new-york-times-shifts-projection-to-immanent-trumpreich/ << Qntra - New York Times Shifts Projection To Immanent Trumpreich
shinohai: there is a qntest entry in this dumb video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbryz0mxuMY
BingoBoingo: shinohai: There is no entry because entry has rules explicitly forbidding Youtube and other spammer refuges.
BingoBoingo: title fxd
BingoBoingo: Also now 91%, that needle is moving fast
BingoBoingo: And popular vote lead approaching 2 million
BingoBoingo: And lol early utah returns show Clitler and McMullin each at 21%
BingoBoingo: And NYT needle now pegged at ">95%"
BingoBoingo: Wait, Virginia already "called" for clitler while North Carolina and FLorida still "leaning" even with better numbers suggesting Trumpreich
mircea_popescu: anyone here ever saw a film called swordfish ?
mircea_popescu: i think it's the worst film ever made.
mircea_popescu: aaand trump took florida
asciilifeform: eh that was whole hour ago!111
mircea_popescu: hey, i was busy.
mircea_popescu: anyway, pretty much all over for the dumb bitch that dared go against the republic.
mircea_popescu: hopefully the rest of the aparatchicks can learn from her corpse
asciilifeform: too early to buy coal for the crematoria just yet.
mircea_popescu: rather than from their own.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: preeeeetty bad.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> eh that was whole hour ago!111 << No, they "called" it just minutes ago though obvious earlier
mircea_popescu: also got nc etc
mircea_popescu: it's enough for her to lose wisconsin, which she doesn't have a prayer with, or michigan, which idem, and she's out.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyone here ever saw a film called swordfish ? << lol, yes.
mircea_popescu: she'll prolly lose both + pennsylvanioa, and so...
BingoBoingo: Yes, her current pennsylvania lead is eroding by the minute because rural votes matter
mircea_popescu: i dunno what they're talking with 87%. unless 99.87% is what they mean.
BingoBoingo: But nytime lags in awarding states and so they show Clitler up 1 electoral vote on their count
mircea_popescu: she's entirely out of ammo.
mircea_popescu: also gop swiped senate something fierce.
BingoBoingo: Anyways the difference between 2012 polls and 2016 is old people still had landlines in 2012. Now they don't.
mircea_popescu: heh. check out the effect of bahamas on illinois though. pretty much the only thing the guy did, porkbarrel. it shows.
trinque: fivethirtyeight has trump at 28.6% to win, last updated 14hrs ago. bahaha teh butt-tears.
asciilifeform: hey he only needs to, what, lose michigan and wisconsin..?
mircea_popescu: "The fear at the Javitz Center in New York, where Hillary Clinton is due to greet the results later tonight, is palpable." sez one lucia graves
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. he only needs to win one of mi, wis, or penn.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> heh. check out the effect of bahamas on illinois though. pretty much the only thing the guy did, porkbarrel. it shows. << Check the county map. Chicago and East St Louis (and not neighbors of East st louis) got pork
mircea_popescu: she must win all three.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo aha.
mircea_popescu: that's what i'm saying, it's like drawn.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Notably cook county and east st louis (but not rest of St Clair county) summon dead to polls
mircea_popescu: johnson keeps wisconsin seat.
mircea_popescu: that's it, she's losing wisconsin, and with that the election.
BingoBoingo: Blunt keeps missouri provided North county ballots are counted sanely at this point.
BingoBoingo: Greitens also has solid lead in Missouri.
BingoBoingo: for Governor
mircea_popescu: all the "civil servants" got is a defeat of some dubious meathead sheriff in az. which... mkay.
mircea_popescu: anyway, turnout larger than for obama 1 or 2.
BingoBoingo: yes. Other new, Iowa oscillating colors towards trump from solid early clitler lead
mircea_popescu: but i thought you know, texas was up for grabs!11
mircea_popescu: could the mainstream jewdia been wrong ?!?!
ben_vulpes: there was a trump pinata at the bar where i just had a birthday dinner
mircea_popescu: was the hairpiece detachable ?
ben_vulpes: i don't think so, looked like integral paperwork
mircea_popescu: scam trump pinata.
mircea_popescu: accept no surogates!
ben_vulpes: obvs!
ben_vulpes: i wonder if it'll still be hanging tomorrow
BingoBoingo: And reliably Missouri voted down new cigarette taxes
trinque: the google thing is showing Washington called for hillary even though 39% reporting, and trump ahead?
asciilifeform also noticed this
mircea_popescu: diebold tech!
trinque: they must've heard me, now same 39% reporting but hillary up, lol!
asciilifeform: and they can still flip, e.g., ohio.
trinque: ohio 89% in with him up by about half mil.
BingoBoingo: Koster just conceded to Eric Grietens for Missouri governor prior to media "calling" result
trinque: surely not *that* many people live in that shithole
mircea_popescu: she gonna manage to lose wa on top of everything else ?
BingoBoingo: less than 70,000 apart in pennsylvania
mircea_popescu: ineptitude on this level is reminiscent of dan quayle.
mircea_popescu: ah she just got wa it seems.
asciilifeform: afaik those lands were always solid clitler country.
mircea_popescu: he gets ga
mircea_popescu: ahahaha faso beats teachout
mircea_popescu: there won't be anyone from the progre side in congress.
mircea_popescu: Shemin said he had voted Democrat every election until this one. “I believed the promises of the Democratic party and I realized I’ve been let down every time especially by Obama,” he said.
mircea_popescu: !!key mrbitcoin
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo kasich got his butt handed to him huh.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: here's a thought re earlier thread, i wonder if joestack-airplane would easily pay for itself in that you could live in an unpopulated shithole and commute in it...
mircea_popescu: you ever flown the small shits ? cessna etc ?
asciilifeform: i have not flown even a kite in recent years.
asciilifeform: and plane - not once.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. they're uncomfortable. don't think car - it's worse than shitty japanese bike from the 80s
asciilifeform: i did sit down in one not long ago
asciilifeform: ~same as my car.
mircea_popescu: and in places with harsh weather (such as, everywhere civilised men live, east coast, etc) you can't fly them 2 days a week
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the dynamics are the problem. very much like being in a walnut shell
asciilifeform: eh what does grown man care re comfort of his arse.
asciilifeform: i'd sit on a bed of nails for halved rent.
mircea_popescu: fly each day to commute ? get over it. plenty of high profile 60s crashes of derpy "busionessmen" who thought this is a fine idea. it isn't. you get tired then you get dead.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo scott took sander's vermond too lmao.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also i dunno that the fella goes in ~each day~
asciilifeform: if he does - yes, won't possibly work.
mircea_popescu: the point being that it's not as reliable as car, not even close. if you gotta show up in the morning unexpectedly (meaning, you partied with two hos till 3 am) and then the weather's bad, your survival rate dropped to like 60%.
mircea_popescu: in a car it's never under 99%
asciilifeform: i was actually considering the flying death-capsule for my own arse. because my physical presence in the swamp is called for maybe once or twice in a month, and with many days of warning.
mircea_popescu: liek that may work. if the weather cooperates.
mircea_popescu: but only if. you can't fly those if it's icing for instance. period.
asciilifeform: well yes, it becomes brick.
asciilifeform: if i knew how to fly airplanes, i would easily be in empty field in some kansas even now.
mircea_popescu: it's not that hard to learn, really.
asciilifeform: lighting benjies with previously-lit benjies.
trinque has a family member flying the big ones, has heard all kinds of stories
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo kasich got his butt handed to him huh. << Kasich might have swept against Clitler it appears
mircea_popescu: ahhh the crying women at hillary place. delishius tears!
trinque: I don't think I'd ever fly something small that didn't have one of those ballistic parachute things
asciilifeform: trinque: add 200+k to price then!
trinque: and even then, you get hung up in a tree, then fall to death
mircea_popescu: trinque those can also kill you.
asciilifeform: no parachute in ww2 plane.
asciilifeform: (what you get for 10-20k usd)
mircea_popescu: and yes, he has a point, expensive, complex, might as well get a 1mn plane if you will bother.
asciilifeform: also parachute won't do shit on takeoff/landing
asciilifeform: which is where most folks burn up
asciilifeform: it isn't a mig ejector seat.
asciilifeform: holy FUCK
asciilifeform: she has pgp key?!
asciilifeform: can negrate ?!1
trinque: older gentleman in my family owns an old beechcraft 18. thing's engines *roar*; we took it to nantucket coupla years back.
mircea_popescu: nicely formatted, too.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you often meet roach with pgp key?!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At one point Gawker made everyone get one. At one point Gizmodo chick got a hold of cazalla and myself about GAW scam
asciilifeform: trinque: >1 engine?
trinque: twin prop
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/Svhv7#selection-3733.71-3733.213 << for the lulzjar. "If Trump loses, we must ensure that his name and the presidential campaign he ran echo through American history as a dark and distressing tale"
trinque: I think his seated 8 or so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform often enough, yes. they're not so hard to make.
asciilifeform: trinque: neato, what do those go for ?
mircea_popescu: trinque huge diff between that and the single seater he's contemplating
trinque: a quick google turns one up for 129k
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