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trinque: your own code determines when these things happen!
asciilifeform: the benchmark is 'i can feel delays'
ben_vulpes: i'll refrain from further.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you think the work reduced to 'slam other pngs in there', you're in for a surprise.
ben_vulpes: can i slam other pngs in there? probably. great.
ben_vulpes: it is the least interesting thing.
ben_vulpes: yeah, emerge, network managers, gui wrappers around os stuff is very uninteresting (but i suppose useful in the case of eg fs browser 'dired' and climacsy presentations). what i *want* is a lispy gui toolkit and i do not give one screaming fuck re "omg ancient athena widgets"
mircea_popescu: there's an impedance mismatch between description and labeling though. i expect my wine bottle to say "wine bottle" rather than the more accurate "dubious suspension of tanic acid salts in water"
trinque: that said the various CLIM explorers of the lisp system were ~rad~, integrated debugger etc, rad
trinque: the presence of e.g. network manager in the thing shows the lack of an eye for what constitutes cruft in gentooland
asciilifeform: gentoo could theoretically be improved -- but not by bolting a hacked-together cl layer ON TOP OF pythonic emerge
asciilifeform: if d00d worked on, e.g., climacs, and ditched the pretense of 'os design', he could theoretically come up with something worthwhile imho
asciilifeform: about, e.g., impedance mismatches in a comp system, or the failure of massive abstraction towers, or any of what i consider to be the basic observations
asciilifeform: ftr i grunted through gabriel_laddel's www material and cringed, he quotes massive chunks from my www but shows no symptoms of having learned anything there
trinque: can't play coy; display the fucking item
ben_vulpes: i will not write this theorem in cocoa, qt, wx, or any of the ilk.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why i was under the impression it was 210 + laptop.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what is even happening in there
asciilifeform: i gotta say that i am entirely uninterested in theatrical/hollywood imitations of lispm
ben_vulpes shakes feathered stick at sky, demands marvelous widget be brought
mircea_popescu: same either*
mircea_popescu: i can't evaluate same ever ; after some cursory attempts to help the evaluation i'm resigned to let it evaluate itself.
trinque: I dunno it's accurate to say the guy just grabbed something he found, but it's at the present impossible for me to evaluate how much code is g_l and how much found.
asciilifeform: 'Imagine a witch doctor in a society that doesn’t know how to make glass. A bottle washes up on the shore. It has amazing properties. He puts it on a stick and waves it around and convinces his fellows that he has got some of those amazing properties himself.'
phf: "or you could ignore all of this stupid shit and buy a Masamune for 410USD plus the price of the hardware"
mircea_popescu: i know but why would you use the ssh client as a text editor
asciilifeform: so if you were to use it -- then.
mircea_popescu: who the hell types into the ssh ?
asciilifeform: if you successfully connect, you give the other side a sample of your keystroke timings, which for some reason usg is obsessed with
asciilifeform: but even failing this, diffiehellman gives the other side a sample from your rng.
mircea_popescu: that it crashes your ssh client, gains control of your box as the user that ran it, escalates it to root privilege, installs a rootkit that you can't take out without throwing out the mobo + hdd and disappears in a puff of smoke.
ben_vulpes: what are the security risks of opening an ssh connection to a possibly hostile host?
mircea_popescu: the new decentralized internet huh.
asciilifeform: 'The round of $4M was led by Union Square Ventures, with participation by Lux Capital, Naval Ravikant, Digital Currency Group, Compound, Version One, Kal Vepuri and Rising Tide.' << this buys, what, seven greyhound buses ?
asciilifeform: lel, urbit apparently dead enough that a new one is conjured up, https://blockstack.org/blog/funding-the-new-decentralized-internet
asciilifeform: 'If the stories I'd heard were true, taking a tiny bit of it, a micro-dose, had the potential to make my workday more productive than ever.' << lulz
asciilifeform: in other noose, https://archive.is/Bgn3d << adlaiism spreads
mircea_popescu: anyway. the note is somewhat sour.
mircea_popescu: this is readily the more promising lulzatron of the period.
asciilifeform: Cambridge Centre for the Study of Existential Risk << lol!!
asciilifeform: nope, they both appear to still function.
asciilifeform: with more 'commercial' angle ('miri', aka 'singularity institute', and half dozen other names iirc) was more 'academia'-flavoured.
asciilifeform: https://intelligence.org << the original thiel/yudkowsky scamatron
mircea_popescu: im telling you it's the same one
asciilifeform: musk is the rocket embezzler d00d
mircea_popescu: (ftr, the musk "friendly ai" thingee had NINE employees. to medium's 150.)
mircea_popescu: i fail to see this potential. looks entirely like "hey guise, let's agree on definition of ai that allows the pretense of sv technologee to survive a little longer plox "
mircea_popescu: i'm hard pressed to see anything in the "65bn" worth of vaporware that ycombinator counts for itself. they did what, a bunch of groupons/mediums ? ie, shareholder fraud of the cooked books version and shareholder fraud of the pie in the sky version ?
asciilifeform: aha, the shaped magnet escaped
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/making-the-pussygrab-great-again/ << Trilema - Making the pussygrab great again ?
mircea_popescu: plus the occasional actual item finds its way out of there.
asciilifeform: e.g. the 'is somebody peeking at my display from behind my back' company
asciilifeform: ^ cia's own ycombinator, decades old, is equally a circus, but makes imho for much more entertaining reading material (they fund wunderwaffenists)
mircea_popescu: yes but when greater fool went from being microsoft to being us fed, the standards relaxed.
mircea_popescu: yeah, ye olde "sam altman is the repository of the human decency of being a trite fuckwit just like sam altman"
asciilifeform: 'Trump shows little respect for the Constitution, the Republic, or for human decency, and I fear for national security if he becomes our president.'
mircea_popescu: a decade ago there was some cursory but detectable ranking by sense. much more gimmicky today.
asciilifeform: ( i could be wrong about this, but yc seems to be quite the same chumpatron today as it was decade ago )
mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter. there's no "supposition of competence" for handpuppets.
asciilifeform: it isn't clear imho that he is ~incompetent~, either. the outcome depends largely on the grade of cattle coming into the meat processor, and how would he affect this?
mircea_popescu: competence is the only criterion.
asciilifeform: what in this case means 'outperforms' ? i have difficulty picturing how anything short of sea piracy might beat pg's roi -- he invests pocket change in 1,001 disposable kidz, and pockets (iirc) half of anything they happen to bring in -- while carrying 0 risk
mircea_popescu: of course, the woman vastly outperforms him, but whatevs. weirdos abound.
mircea_popescu: 50something. the altman handpuppet is iirc stoya's age.
mircea_popescu: neither did hitler. lived rest of life in "bunker", very different.
mircea_popescu: i don't care. there's no need for each individual item to be discussed. guy exists today because of the yahoo marketing ponzi scheme pre 2001 bubble. nfi why he's not in jail, but it is a shameful macula on the usg "justice" system.
asciilifeform: i've nfi which particular honest d00d he stole the observation from.
asciilifeform: 'has 100x the people, where are 100x the painters'
asciilifeform: paulgraham was the one with 'where are the painters of current florence'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall who we quoted re the "where are all the 5000 rubensen" argument ?
asciilifeform: 'While Kraken users watched the price drop, most of us could only watch in disbelief as our orders were not processed.'
mircea_popescu: hey, worked for the hearnia.
asciilifeform: i can already picture how october might have went: henchman: 'rumours that we are tards have been spreading for several years, what shall we do' mrmold: 'i know! let's MOVE THE FORUM'
asciilifeform: perhaps the wagner and cyanide can already be smelled in mr.mold-central.
asciilifeform: 'urbit is down tonight' 'curtis We were trying to subscribe urbit-meta to fora notifications, something very reasonable that we should have done a long time ago, and ended up producing a "presence storm." We'll fix it a little more carefully and methodically tomorrow -- or try, at least. :-) In the meantime, I've turned off all our major stars.'
asciilifeform: in yet-other lulzies, just when i thought thing was dead, (0 updates since oct. 25 iirc), https://archive.is/GcmdK
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 14:05 mircea_popescu: slowly building the "tmsr hardware" thing. iirc there was another item also
asciilifeform: eggog! these people have clothes on!!111
asciilifeform: but yeah, iirc it was strictly either tyan and asus, pick.
asciilifeform: !~google socket 1207 motherboard
mircea_popescu: piles of asusen will eat the phenoms.
asciilifeform: ('these' being my opterons or mircea_popescu's phenoms)
asciilifeform: and the originals, are scarcer than the chips
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 14:05 mircea_popescu: slowly building the "tmsr hardware" thing. iirc there was another item also
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-06#1597510 << btw to briefly revisit thread: it would also be worthwhile to find ~what was the last mobo~ that ate these.
trinque: BingoBoingo: iirc there was a thread about pedos becoming the next protected class
trinque: also loller at the private evidence; must've been a small dick pic
trinque: actually, I suppose with them the "underage" is sop
trinque: where are these people when Biden's kissing underage girls on camera in front of their parents ?
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: what was the reasoning behind http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 again? << this ties those files together to make it a "grab-bag" of a release ; bunch of previous discussions
mircea_popescu: rather curious how trump will navigate the dire straights of maga absolutely requiring a repeal of 20 years' worth of "harassment" business.
mircea_popescu: https://web.archive.org/web/20041207225119/http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/government/packwood2.html << in other "can do whatevers", packwood, a 1980s powerhouse (singlehandedly fucked up clinton's own obamacare, among other highlights), chased out of senate because he may have kissed a girl at a party and stuff of that nature.
asciilifeform: so they can do whateverses.
mircea_popescu: those damned foreigners dun understand how the world works properly, desk fliers stuck doing it in garage.
mircea_popescu: they had a whole "military operation planning" thingee with a map and errything, just like in the movies.
asciilifeform: the mega-lul here is that this is a crock o'shit
asciilifeform: 'JFHQ-NCR operates within the scope of the law. It will not engage in direct law enforcement activities, but when requested by civil authorities and approved by the civilian leadership of DOD, it supports civil authorities in their public safety missions. Existence of a JFHQ enables better planning by all parties, to the benefit of the public.'
mircea_popescu: !~google joint task force for the national capital region
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, schumer now crying over the "great victory" of "nuclear option" because guess what ? taking headcount to confirm from 60 to 51 mostly helps... trump.
trinque: these people wish the us could fart out a hitler to make them feel important enough to round up
mircea_popescu: since when the fuck does the whore get to score the john. get up on the stage and flash the goods.
asciilifeform: 'Mormon Tabernacle Choir... ... The group is based out of Salt Lake City, Utah, and dates back to the founding of the Mormon Church. ... It has some 360 members, but the decision to participate in Trump's Inauguration caused one member to leave. Jan Chamberlin said she was dropping out of the group and wrote on Facebook with reference to the inaugural performance: "I only know I could never 'throw roses to Hitler.' And I certainly co
mircea_popescu: i imagine beyonce + rap band was the menu, neh ?
mircea_popescu: we're discussing obama here. i assume it must be something akin to the man - stole a name, ran with it.
asciilifeform: lulzily enough i have a crate with the 7700k coming in today (to put in a heathentron), will see how it worx.
mircea_popescu: yeah amd went the way of gaddafi even as intel went the way of obama.
asciilifeform: while we're in cpuwank mode, 'The Intel Core i7-7700K is what happens when a chip company stops trying. The i7-7700K is the first desktop Intel chip in brave new post-"tick-tock" world—which means that instead of major improvements to architecture, process, and instructions per clock (IPC), we get slightly higher clock speeds and a way to decode DRM-laden 4K streaming video. Huzzah.'
mircea_popescu: slowly building the "tmsr hardware" thing. iirc there was another item also
asciilifeform: incidentally this is a good small research project -- 'what was the last pre-fritzing opteron'
asciilifeform: the 2393se is the newest one i've personally tested.
asciilifeform: otherwise -- opteron
asciilifeform: if you run 1socket rigs -- them
mircea_popescu: neways. moral i guess being, stock up on above fxen, they're great and quite possibly the last good chip in human history.
asciilifeform: i get'em used, because they are ~indestructible. but yes.
asciilifeform: (must point out, though, opteron was not a cheap-side chip, and the mobo that ate it -- also was not, was top-of-the-line in amd world)
mircea_popescu: i guess if you bought it when it came out the opteron was like 1k or some shit.
asciilifeform: ok to be perfectly clear, i compared 2 boxes, one -- the aforementioned crapple, one -- a 2x2393SE.
mircea_popescu: i7 4870 was released mid 2014 ; the amd mid 2013 if memory serves.
mircea_popescu: the amd is about 6 months OLDER than your intel.
asciilifeform: the crapple is ~impossible to do anything serious on. wtf, gdb
asciilifeform: (behind schedule , behind 3 other things!)
mircea_popescu: so then wtf.
mircea_popescu: whereas the i 4870 has ddr3 1600
mircea_popescu: the amd has dd3 2133
asciilifeform: the one where one box has ddr2 and the other ddr3 possible.
mircea_popescu: dude... explain what singularity you live in where a half the bus clock half the cores half the cache ONE QUARTER POWER chip is still, somehow, better.
mircea_popescu: so then. you probably need a dozen bridged crapples to touch the amd box.
mircea_popescu: twice the cache, twice the cores, what the shit are you on about.
mircea_popescu: oh come on. what's in the crapple ?
asciilifeform: as for the crapple, it has roughly half of the cpu horse as dulap.
asciilifeform: and no, unfortunately it does ~not~ beat the 2016 crapple.
asciilifeform: so what mircea_popescu just recommended was 'buy the same box that was too slow, but sans ecc'...
asciilifeform: what it is, is the konsoomer version of the opteron i actually have in the box i am sitting on nao!
mircea_popescu: so then wtf holy shit omfg.
asciilifeform: (neither is the crapple)
mircea_popescu: and it costs a coupla hundy not a coupla grand, either.
mircea_popescu: like what ? something like amd fx 9500 is, i bet, way ahead anything apple ever put in anything they made.
asciilifeform: i should add, the crapple was also the fastest box i had available locally.
mircea_popescu: laptops aren't computers. they're not even female computers, they're toy computers.
mircea_popescu: you're the worst sort of engineers, i swear, the kind who calculate tomato production of balcony and are proud to wash their teeth with a motorcycle engine adaptation contraption.
asciilifeform: there was some supposed workaround involving self-generated ssl certs but it dun wurk
mircea_popescu: why the everloving would you valgrind on a laptop ?
mircea_popescu: they're insane if they seriously imagine their tivo dumbassery has better chances this time around. but w/e, they DO imagine.
asciilifeform: i shit thee not
mircea_popescu: i dunno, they had to make space for java machine ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phakt, i replicated phuctor on a mac lappy (it happened to be the one in the room with sufficient free disk) and it works -- except that apparently gdb no longer works on latest crapple os
mircea_popescu: in the "but do you know who mai father is and why is hybrid mini not also boatcar!!1"
asciilifeform: e.g., knowing how much power, to the microamp, victim is drawing; or time; etc
davout: yeah in the sense be on the same box, or physically close
asciilifeform: davout: side channel isn't magic, you gotta actually ~have~ the side channel
mircea_popescu: anyway, major point here being "how expensive" is not a good criteria for card. either dig up in the specs or use the cards ppl runnign the thing ask you to
Framedragger: ah yeah. there was an old 3g modem plugged into internal pcie, i removed it. pretty lulzy
asciilifeform: the other 'abuse tool' you can get is internal pcie to external slot snake
mircea_popescu: yeah pcie is becoming quite the proverbial tower of piles.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: k, good to know, thanks. it's just one bus lane afaict (pci express x1), ExpressCard 2.0, so 'double' the bandwidth i take it. 4-5gbps total
asciilifeform: theoretically x16 pcie!
asciilifeform: Framedragger, mircea_popescu : apparently nowadays you can buy 'thunderbolt' to pcie expanders, if the machine has this plug. (i have not tested this variant.)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 11:19 davout: asciilifeform: was there a thread re the side-channel attacks on openssl's ecdsa signature?
asciilifeform: it worx (they come with varying number of bus lanes, see how many in yours)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 12:42 Framedragger: OT, anyone's done an egpu rig on an x220? i'm probably gonna do an abonimation, and connect an nvidia card to x220 via its expresscard slot. there's this antichrist-like adapter (http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V2.1.html) which does the magic. bottleneck is expresscard (5 gbps or somesuch) but if one uses external monitor, it's all pretty good apparently.
mircea_popescu: and yes i have. not particularly portable, but at some point people in $not-mentioned were offering "plug your laptop into the monitor" style videoconferencing
mircea_popescu: well, the bus becomes congested, it's not really designed to bridge north and south like that.
Framedragger: aha, otherwise too much bandwidth gfx card <-> cpu apparently
Framedragger: OT, anyone's done an egpu rig on an x220? i'm probably gonna do an abonimation, and connect an nvidia card to x220 via its expresscard slot. there's this antichrist-like adapter (http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V2.1.html) which does the magic. bottleneck is expresscard (5 gbps or somesuch) but if one uses external monitor, it's all pretty good apparently.
mircea_popescu: it MAY BE that the muslim wave actually improves female livestock on the old & wrinkly continent.
mircea_popescu: in other "muslim invasion" lulz : http://ask.fm/QueennnNAL ; now we play the game where you find me aryan malmo resident as hawt.
Framedragger: it's a well known fact that an unbalanced high number of parentheses results in irc ping timeouts.
jhvh1: Framedragger: The operation succeeded.
davout: which, incidentally, seems like yet another very good reason to fully exfiltrate the wallet
davout: asciilifeform: was there a thread re the side-channel attacks on openssl's ecdsa signature?
ben_vulpes: i'm not particularly bent about the sorting, 'twas simply what made me look at the linked stanzas in curiosity. curious about "what of it", as you say.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem of "how to sort two patches which alter entirely disjuncts subsets of the file set" is not exactly clear. unless they declare how they prefer to be sorted.
ben_vulpes: yeah i'm in the same boat.
ben_vulpes: notion, iirc, was to make a "release" vpatch that added *something* to *every file in the tree* to neck the patch graph down
mircea_popescu: so there's a version comment there, what of it ?
ben_vulpes: you advocated this at one other point too, right?
ben_vulpes: not inverted, as far as i can tell it's a fine place in the flow for it to be. i'm a bit discomfited, and am poking an old thread about "release vpatches" that seems to have surfaced unexplainedly in the makefiles vpatch
ben_vulpes: eh, the leaving of free money on the ground baffles me.
mircea_popescu: but as to the other thing, i'm not sure i follow. your v inverted patch flow ?
mircea_popescu: these happen occasionally, what about 'em ?
ben_vulpes: also what's the deal with these single-tx blocks http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate#46
ben_vulpes: so i cracked everything open, and sure enough the patch in question doesn't touch any files touched in the makefiles vpatch
ben_vulpes: anyways this came to my attention when i had the privkey tools vpatch on my table and it showed up *above* makefiles.vpatch in the output of both our flow utils, which spooked me
ben_vulpes: mod6: on previous thread, i have a vague memory of stuffing a RELEASE stanza in every file of a release to neck the tree down
ben_vulpes: my jimmies ain't even rustled, par for the course
mircea_popescu: nuts, "this calender doesn't support pasta". wtf is it even there then
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: one of the several emacs shell thingers
ben_vulpes: mod6: what was the reasoning behind http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 again?
ben_vulpes: what i want is a "bitch do the obvious thing" switch
mircea_popescu: there's prolly a "stfu" switch
ben_vulpes: i'm sure it's all very useful in the prevention of foot-shoosting but ugh
ben_vulpes: naively, i figured cp simply overwrote the target
BingoBoingo: studs are thermally conductive relative to every else that should be in wall
asciilifeform: incidentally thermovisor will also show you studs
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asciilifeform: and they're densitometric not magnetic, wtf
asciilifeform: lul didja read the thing backwards or wat
asciilifeform: speaking of shit wiring, thermovisor will show you some very interesting things in an old house.
asciilifeform: in so far as can tell with naked eye, and with the sensors, it was built 'by the book'.
asciilifeform: but enough to push the 'dead' cap-less unit over the edge, briefly.
asciilifeform: not enough of a spike to propagate down the wire to where i have the plotter
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i saw interesting variant of this, with the selfsame led bulbs, where a dead lamp would light for about 1/2 second after the live one connected in tandem switched (from wall switch) off !
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment. << apparently they are for backfeeding current into switched circuits they are wired off of when said circuits are "off"
asciilifeform: btw, bonus tip for tuned-in folx, it dun hurt to have a number of cameras pointed at door- or window-shaped holes in your dwelling, some of which are prominent, and might depend on mains current, but others -- not so prominent, and do not, and do not write to the net or to any place you can get to other than by demolishing whole bldg
asciilifeform: not everybody has a guard booth with servant chilling his bones by the antitank ditch on the edge of the dirigible field.
mircea_popescu: who receives people off the street randomly ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.) << Have you hunted for miswired low voltage hvac or door bell transformers? I had a "bulb killing fixture" that was tamed by removing backfeeding noisy ass doorbell transformer.
asciilifeform: (lampism esoterica. 'soft white' is the trade name for the faux-incandescent phosphor variant led)
mircea_popescu: "oh, he's not from around here, which means we can't live in his house but NEITHER CAN HE IN OURS! because that's how white man supremacy works, totally!"
mircea_popescu: idiots. who the fuck do they think they are, seriously, buncha inept alt-white people.
mircea_popescu: ah, the cairo thing ?
mircea_popescu: yes, "manufacturer thought things through", but not in the sense usually contemplated.
mircea_popescu: evidently you got one of the recycled.
asciilifeform: (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.)
mircea_popescu: heh, they're doing the whole "portland the spacestation, only so much volume available" thign there huh
asciilifeform: the result, curiously enough, is ~two~ new units, about 6 months later, in each case
asciilifeform: i do different thing -- mail the lamps back, with a note about considering www article re rubbish lamp, and inviting maker to consider honouring the warranty
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha yes i play the exact opposite game. "oh, the recycling bin is the big one? great, that's where everything goes."
mircea_popescu: all this "oh, we're all friends" bs is for the dogs. i ain't fiatola's friend.
mircea_popescu: somehow - they will pay. i ain't giving jack for free.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wonder if they have prisoners sift through rubbish in search of lamps yet.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 23:48 asciilifeform: one reason is that the chumps often submit'em, for free, for 'recycle', and the lamp house gets to sell ~same motherfucking lamp N times
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597139 << quite this, actually. i never "recycle" in the sense of give for free. straight into kitchen trash it all goes. let them learn how to pay.
mircea_popescu: having menawhile colored their glass a very superb tint of rose through metal deposition
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/KxvRD << sadly for the credibility of the us "intelligence community", 134.249.139.239 was doing web/blog spam back in 2014.
asciilifeform just measured another led lamp, 0 at 5cm.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a thing of the 70s, mostly gone now. the modern northern "window" is so insulating as you couldn't believe.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597100 << this is not actually true, ftr. back in the days of unfloated double-panel with gas separator, you could get plenty sunburnt in the northern solaria domes during their pathetic excuse for a summer.
ben_vulpes: that'd be the joke, yes
mircea_popescu: the world is at an end.
ben_vulpes: most of the time at least
mircea_popescu: if you say "can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus" the parser wil lsettle on "that's because wife and girl share a bedroom."
asciilifeform: aha, he has the air of a 2-engined fella
mircea_popescu: aok then
ben_vulpes: but hey, at least standard deduction is going to 24k for the married men
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: glorious socialist wasteland of stealing the stolen from
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it isn't the lamp that catches fire
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 21:13 phf: it's safe to save 66.35.48.19 for glyf.org, it's been the same ip for the past 10 years or so. in fact, assuming this is not some weird overflow issue, today is a birthday on glyf.org machine. 2048 days uptime
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