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mircea_popescu: this is altogether dubious as a theory.
asciilifeform: maybe worx then
ben_vulpes: which "them"?
asciilifeform: and what's to keep'em from magicking away the moneys?
ben_vulpes: pile up pre-tax dollars reserved for 'valid medical expenses' without incurring the insurance cost
asciilifeform: toil endlessly for debts they can never repay.'
asciilifeform: 'Conway, the game’s main character, is put through numerous tough situations that evoke economic despair. In one scene, after he suffers a serious injury, his leg is replaced by a gleaming skeletal prosthetic, and he is vaguely informed that he owes money to a corporation. In another, he descends into a subterranean whiskey distillery staffed by animated skeletons, whom he learns are doomed to
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://archive.is/M3T2W >> 'These games do not aim to make players feel successful and powerful as conventional video games do, and instead challenge people to look at the world in a different way. Creators of the games said they were more interested in showing the complicated lives of the people and places the world has left behind...'
ben_vulpes: and at the very least shares keybindings with intellij/android studio
ben_vulpes: phf: man once i got the simulator all wired up boy howdy was it nice to have unified keybindings for the mobile scutwork
trinque: he told the IRS to stop enforcing it, yeah
ben_vulpes: "Obamacare's markets are nearing failure as premiums climb and healthier individuals drop out" << did someone cancel the penalty for rolling uninsured or am i missing something here
ben_vulpes: was there bitching at the top about the selective leaking?
mircea_popescu: i can fish out the exact article for you if you're curious.
mircea_popescu: (yes, the problems of the us today played out in romania a decade ago, hurr durr).
ben_vulpes: the distribution of 'intelligence' by bureaucrats?
mircea_popescu: amusingly, this is 2010 trilema. recently making the rounds on reddit, and such.
ben_vulpes: "The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by 'intelligence' like candy. Very un-American!" god i love realdonaldtrump
mircea_popescu: kinda why people tend to be cowardly in realpolitik. "yes i can nuke him, and that'll be the end of us both" sorta thing
mircea_popescu: hitler remains a very instructive illustration of the pitfals of hatred. yes he did destroy the british empire. there's not now nor ever will be any future for the shitheads spawned by that miserable island. the cost however... there's no germany nor will likely ever be one again.
mircea_popescu: they'll never be anything more than a sort of mexicans, i can use them as cumrags but not as germans.
mircea_popescu: there's very little threat to greek national identity the dos can mount
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes because they essentially dedicate themselves to extraction out of the would-be bigman.
mircea_popescu: testament to how in a dictatorship the whore does a lot better than the engineer.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the greeks are handling the postmodern soup a lot better than eg the germans.
mircea_popescu: though they're trying to corrupt narrative with trump also. just, they're so deeply racist that they won't believe a "citizen" could possibly be anything but insane. sluggish schizophrenia ftw!
mircea_popescu: makes sense on their twisted level, anyone who doesn't see the glory of the libertard revelation is either insane (trump) or else corrupt (if orc).
mircea_popescu: that's the codeword for non-usg-compliant-orc : "corrupt".
ben_vulpes: "next you'll want to disband the tribes of the fertile crescent!"
ben_vulpes: challenge it on cultural diversity grounds: "baksheesh is how other cultures work, and this inane attempt to 'combat corruption' is really just thinly-disguised cultural imperialism justifying usg statal overreach"
ben_vulpes: "There’s no real thought about: what is the purpose of asset forfeiture? What is it designed to achieve?” said Kristian Lasslett, director of the Institute for Research in Social Sciences at Ulster University, who has been working to develop the emerging academic field of 'state crime'."
mircea_popescu: their country's institutions have reached consensus.
asciilifeform: '...- Polls /dev/random until it's available, then - Reads from /dev/urandom (the non-blocking interface) instead. Most of the code in this patch was lifted from libsodium, which already does this. Libsodium is ISC Licensed (by Frank Denis).'
ben_vulpes: the re-carving of territory up by the replacement right and replacement left could be interesting. not saying that it is yet, or that it mustest be, but that if it does transpire i will pop corn.
asciilifeform finds the ceremonial, null-summing back-and-forth components of usg political circus a mega-snore
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: or plain rerun of bush-II-era bone thrown to the church, snoar.
asciilifeform: 'For one thing, Uzbekistan’s independent civil society has been decimated. Between 2004 and 2007, the government forced international organizations out of the country. ' << ohnoez!
mircea_popescu: seems like he was working for the great orange revolution movement.
asciilifeform: 'Umarov was released to his family in Tennessee in 2009 thanks to high-level pressure from the U.S. State Department. The former oligarch turned political opponent is now one of the most prominent among many victims...' << lulzy
mircea_popescu: anyway. the bs is pretty thickly laid out, apparently dude at the center of all this is usg agent who got 20mn to try and overturn the govt but then stole the money ? or somesuch
asciilifeform: occasionally you do hear of thief who drops wallet at the scene containing moar than he stole -- but this is rare.
mircea_popescu: the numbers are lulzy though : 1trillion stolen from orclands ; 10x the aid inflowing.
mircea_popescu: check it out, they even call it us kleptocracy department! apt.
asciilifeform: '“A really surprising thing about that letter is that the Uzbek civil society would rather the money go back to the treasury of any government, than go back to their own government,” Campbell said.'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://archive.is/fsVJ0 >> 'Nearly $1 billion is now frozen in European banks, awaiting a decision by a U.S. district court on the U.S. Justice Department’s forfeiture claim. The assets are subject to U.S. jurisdiction because they were transmitted through U.S. financial institutions on their way to accounts held in Latvia, the United Kingdom, Hong Kong, Ireland, Belgium,
asciilifeform: it still bothers me, for some reason, and currently trying to put finger on why
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the scheme i described, and using, e.g., serpent, the p of an (x,y) recurring is ~0
mircea_popescu: somebody gotta buy all the dumpage.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is why you want large blocks. the odds of x, y recurring is given by the size of x and y
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'Buffett told Charlie Rose in a recent interview that he loaded up on $12 billion worth of stock since the election through the end of January.'
asciilifeform: however what i do not know is whether it is a worse idea than ~block ciphers per se~ !
asciilifeform: in other noose, i realized that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-14#1613906 is a bad idea.
asciilifeform: what i ~did~ find was a tremendous volume of deliberate, artful obscurantism, e.g. the german linked earlier.
asciilifeform was reading up on design & history of '/dev/random' and reeling at the lunacy of the very idea of multi-proggy rng pool
mircea_popescu: that's the proper degree of centralization.
mircea_popescu: as per the very apt asciilifeform observation, rng flux === tty flux. there should be one rng per human, more or less.
asciilifeform: relatedly vintage bernstein, http://archive.is/xZZmb >> ''Some people argued that randomness generation should be centralized--- whether in the OS or hypervisor or CPU---and fixed at that central location if it doesn't work properly. Other people argued that each library and application should defend itself against failures of the centralized mechanism. There actually seem to be three positions...''
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'Politically, though, rehab further radicalized him. "All I did was read books on far-left theory," he said. "I started to understand intellectually what I already understood emotionally."' << lelz << What sort of shit rehab is that!
mircea_popescu: no "global alphabet" which is why utf may not exist. pretty much everything relates to this refusal of the golden calf.
mircea_popescu: no "global money", which is what the idiocy of "scaling bitcoin for africa" is all about.
mircea_popescu: there shall be no man-made universals. it's a heathen practice, and it is also inhuman. this means : no "global state" ; no "global id", not for women, not for their children, cows, computers, whatever other livestock.
asciilifeform: 'The read-only files uuid and boot_id contain random strings like 6fd5a44b-35f4-4ad4-a9b9-6b9be13e1fe9. The former is generated afresh for each read, the latter was generated once.' << what is the theoretically legitimate use for this ?
asciilifeform: in vintage lulz, http://archive.is/4BNQN >> 'Recurring universally unique identifiers (UUIDs), as reported by the smolt hardware profiler client program, had some worried about problems in the kernel RNG. As it turns out, the problem exists in the interaction between Fedora 8 LiveCD installations and smolt – essentially the UUID came from the CD – but it sparked a discussion leading to some
asciilifeform: elsewhere in monkeystan, https://archive.is/7NjO4 >> 'In the late 1990s, the median home price in Washington was just over $150,000. Around 2000, however, prices began to rise, and in just five years, the median home price rose from $159,000 to $420,000.'
ben_vulpes: you think the phb character knows or cares?
asciilifeform: '1. Install Docker. 2. Download the docker-compose.yml file to launch the ATSD Collector container bundle.' << lel
ben_vulpes: iono, aren't republicans in the habit of pasting lulzy pm logs?
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow cia dork makes up story about you sending who knows what over pm to who knows who, we'll laugh and they'll eat it up.
mircea_popescu: more practically, there does exist "OUR COUNTRY'S INSTITUTIONS" etc.
asciilifeform: as pointed out in the last thread, there may theoretically exist 1 or moar idiot who think 'pm' is s33kr1t etc.
asciilifeform: tell it to ~them~.
ben_vulpes: at risk of boringly rehashing a point there is nothing to collect!
asciilifeform: (when the weather is calm)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the nsa collector probably worx.
ben_vulpes: > irc: sasl authentication timeout
mircea_popescu: the more i think of it the more i'm satisfied this is the ur-underpinning. once women manage to get the slaughter of children taboo-ified, all the rest of the rot flows from there.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and obviously since hacking kids up and feeding the remains to sewer rats is taboo, there's no need to consider anything along the lines of "bitch, that rule is there so your dumb ass may be excused from immediate slaughter"
mircea_popescu: basically the whole dynamic is, "child noticed adults tend to be rule-bound, is trying to get maxcake out of it"
mircea_popescu: i mean, literally, that introduction is exactly on par with the misspelled "petition" linked earlier. "there is a rule agains what we're trying to do which is unfortunate (for the rule!) because we wanna do it anyway!"
asciilifeform: 'attacking facts and those who convey them (journalists, scientists)' << gold
mircea_popescu: inst rape for as long as the rapists are mostly on the right ; are against violence for as long as we're more likely to be on the receiving end ; and believe the goldwater rule should be respected at all times it prevents the ousting of a libertard!"
mircea_popescu: "Silence from the country’s mental health organizations has been due to a self-imposed dictum about evaluating public figures (the American Psychiatric Association’s 1973 Goldwater Rule). But this silence has resulted in a failure to lend our expertise to worried journalists and members of Congress at this critical time. We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer." or in plain words, "we on the left are aga
mircea_popescu: it's not just "laws" in the style of "nobody read this 2k page pile of crap" ; it's not just "regulations", in the style of "whatever random czar and his bureaucracy came up with". there's a struggle to add a further red guard of the revolution! THE COUNTRY'S ORGANISATIONS!
mircea_popescu: "the country's mental health organisation".
mircea_popescu: didja see the "mental health care professionals warn" bit ?
mircea_popescu: you know this is traditionally the female maturation process ? "with menopause i did some reading, finally understood my place as i had already spent my life in"
asciilifeform: 'Politically, though, rehab further radicalized him. "All I did was read books on far-left theory," he said. "I started to understand intellectually what I already understood emotionally."' << lelz
mircea_popescu: anyway. judging by the orwellian reaction of the bedwetters, iraq has every chance of turning into a sort of 1920s spain.
mircea_popescu: apparently it's a very convenient narrative for the adolescent underclass. the mystery and intrigue of being mp seduces them.
asciilifeform: 'Franceschi was vague about his background, but wore a Mao pin, owned a fortune in Bitcoin and spoke seven languages, including Arabic and Kurmanji. With no military experience, he was sent to the front line, where Kurdish defenders were outnumbered perhaps five to one...'
mircea_popescu: women aren't sexually exploited. this is THE problem of the west. wtf is wrong with the coolies.
asciilifeform: 'I spent a cold night huddled in a grimy kitchen, befogged with eye-watering quantities of cigarette smoke, while young PKK militants lectured me on the crisis of late capitalism and the American media's sexual exploitation of women.'
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/3Iyj0 << in other dubious wtf's
mircea_popescu: "he's black, of course he's retarded, you're supposed to not say anything about it" being the dem ideology.
mircea_popescu: watch nobody on the left engage the point.
asciilifeform: 'Crimea was TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Administration. Was Obama too soft on Russia?' -- mr.t, twatter, today.
mircea_popescu: the women's state very much wants the latter.
mircea_popescu: myeah. things are pretty simple : either peace with russia and therefore war with china ; or else bickering with russia while china continues to fatten unmolested.
asciilifeform: speaking of which, the show goes on, https://archive.is/bmtZj >> 'Russian intelligence officials made repeated contact' etc.
mircea_popescu: eh, everything with these faggots is about putting on a show.
asciilifeform: well noshit in our native 15th century poison was to avoid 'alert the victim.' but today apparently it is for putting on show. e.g., polonium.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how leet it is, if it alerts the victim
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: (we know this because the ~only portion of the donkey party still standing, ie the socialists that tried to push sanders failfully, are VERY butthurt at the notion.)
mircea_popescu: ahahaha in the best lulz odf all time, chelsea clinton has political ambitions.
ben_vulpes: i don't have enough compenstors on the ground yet apparently if there's a baby stroller type to be had
ben_vulpes: > threatened to run over one of the deputies with a baby stroller
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Kankakee Torrent - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kankakee_Torrent>; KANKAKEE TORRENT - Emporia State University: <http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/student/decinque1/kankeejd.html>; Kankakee Torrent and other Sheet Flooding - Cintos.org: <http://cintos.org/SaginawManifold/Saginaw_Bay/Torrents/index.html>
mircea_popescu: at least they're honest.
mircea_popescu: i like the "pagespeed" setting
ben_vulpes: so "baww" but perhaps the lols compound
trinque: the parent probably looks at too many of those SUPERIOR AFRICAN SEED pictures
ben_vulpes: if only there were an ounce of "prove it" left in america.
ben_vulpes: good for them
BingoBoingo: HF to face for burns and calcium channel disruption and distraction to sneak other calcium channel disruptor into butt.
BingoBoingo: If your are loyal Best Korean, how is the Fallen Scion of dear leader different from Mr. Morningstar who taunted Elliot in the hell that was Isla Vista.
asciilifeform: seems like a bother.
BingoBoingo: The early "spray" and "needle" reports way also be true. Perhaps assassins did multiple poisons and administration routes.
asciilifeform: the 'burns' part suggests hf.
asciilifeform: and afaik there was not
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if dmso, there'd be a dead medic or two
BingoBoingo: 1 corpse people makes new, other dies later?
BingoBoingo: Maybe endangering weilder is part of the point?
asciilifeform: ^ this rumour is interesting to asciilifeform because he is unaware of any poison that fits this description that would not equally endanger the wielder
asciilifeform: liquid", Fadzil Ahmat told Bernama, and he died on the way to hospital in nearby Putrajaya.'
asciilifeform: 'Malaysian police official Fadzil Ahmat told The Star that Mr Kim had alerted a receptionist, saying "someone had grabbed him from behind and splashed a liquid on his face". But quoted by Malaysian news agency Bernama, the same official said a woman had come at him from behind and "covered his face with a cloth laced with a liquid". Earlier reports spoke of a "spray" being used or a needle. His eyes "suffered burns as a result of the
asciilifeform: in other lulz, supposedly fuhrer of northkr finally had his half-brother poisoned:
ben_vulpes: if only join/parts weren't so frequently so spammy; it'd be nicely contextual for eg the previous conversation in logs
ben_vulpes: a man may be forgiven the odd transmission to otherwise apparently derelict friends' vessels
ben_vulpes: you there, boss?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i profit little from things that other people say they plan to do. you also can't dress today for tomorrow's weather.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: cheers. photo was taken on first trip to europe. house exchange in denmark/germany in the days before airbnb.
asciilifeform: '"President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to de-escalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea," Spicer said at the daily news briefing on Tuesday. “At the same time, he fully expects to – and wants to – get along with Russia."'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'US President Donald Trump has been tough on Russia and expects Moscow to “return” the Crimea peninsula to Ukraine, the White House spokesman told reporters.'
Reuel: but really I just wanted to say I liked the http://trilema.com/2017/the-plumbin-plumber/ and sequel
Reuel: the link? it is the beauty of diversity and the power of friendship
Reuel: Anyway, loved the plumber stories!
asciilifeform: the good news is that you can stack up as many rng as you like...
asciilifeform: there is no limit to the parallelization (it is exactly (bytes in paylod)/(the block size of the cipher) threads ) but you cannot generate a new ciphertext any faster than your rng will give it to you.
mircea_popescu: actually : the quality of the rng is the limit on the parallelization.
asciilifeform: at least one of the losses, however, is that you now need a serious rng on the transmitter.
asciilifeform: so the win is, since you dispense with feedback, you can parallelize encipher and decipher, blockwise.
asciilifeform: without chaining the blockcipher's blocks
asciilifeform: what we've done here is to destroy the structure of the penguin
asciilifeform: to get the original payload.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you do this every time, after you decrypt the x- and y- blocks.
asciilifeform: you encipher the x1,x2,.....x_n with one key, and the y1,y2...y_n with another.
asciilifeform: i found that one. but i thought there was also another where i suggested a sideways cut of the knot
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 01:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all schemes where the transform is of 'payload itself' and 0 entropy, suffer from immediate 'penguin problem', https://blog.filippo.io/content/images/2015/11/Tux_ecb.jpg .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've been digging for the thread where we discussed CFB ('cipher block chaining'), the infamous penguin, etc. but could not find
trinque: hm, yeah. there's a good argument against building a shitty blockchain here.
mircea_popescu: if yes the system's unbound, if no then why the fuck even bother, just do otp from get-go.
mircea_popescu: trinque understand the problem with "I will also be piling up the signed material for my records" : if during your lifespan you manage to lose eg a 30yo hdd, because you've built a reviewable system those txn will be reviewable. are you on the hook now for refunds ?
mircea_popescu: contrairiwise, there's not a lbockchain, ie, ever-growing pile of signed data
trinque: mircea_popescu: just means that lobbesbot must have state which keeps track of requests sent, then matches them to incoming OTP, then sends OTP if ==
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with the otp approach as opposed to the signature approach tbh.
danielpbarron: that is, 3rd message only needs to contain the reply part of the 2nd message. it's not necessary to keep the entire conversation
trinque: we're pretty close to me bringing in an updated version of the bot
danielpbarron: trinque, yeah the reply contains the first message plus the responce. 3rd message (if needed) contains text of 2nd message, and so on..
trinque: I had already considered this, and one avenue there was to put the invoice data back into the encrypted challenge
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ie, you'd rather lobbesbot says something to deedbot, then !!v's ?
trinque: I get unsigned text, I give you an encrypted OTP; how then are you to know that OTP corresponds on my end to an unmodified copy of your invoice?
danielpbarron: the otp is functionally the same as a signature for the purpose of keeping text unmollested, and also the same in that neither can ensure a message is ever actually received
mircea_popescu: the whole point of republican activity being to leverage computing power to protect wetware circuitry as much as feasible and no more.
danielpbarron: signature doesn't confirm that either
mircea_popescu: essentially. it allows to filter the flood at the gate. if invoices are not signed then deedbot has to talk to person any time an electric interaction happens ; if they are signed person can have whitelists, deedbot need only talk to person when meaningful occurs.
trinque: also, the OTP dance doesn't by itself confirm that A received B's invoice as it was intended.
danielpbarron: so signatures could be said to put the burden on the one making the request, as an anti-spam measure
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron > dev/null/ except if there's something in there you want. then you're sol.
mircea_popescu: suppose you have 3 you absolutely must pay among there. i hope youbrought a big http://trilema.com/2013/and-then-i-said-to-him-jimmy/
mircea_popescu: the problem with having unsigned invoices is that one morning you wake up and there's 2 ^ 64 invoices waiting for you.
trinque: I will also be piling up the signed material for my records
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the only reason it's signed (by the bot) is so that deedbot can distinguish it from a spoof.
danielpbarron: is the invoice meant to be held against someone in public in the case they don't pay? and that's why it is signed?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's an invoice. the idea is you pay to run an auction.
danielpbarron: what is the purpose of a signature? generally i mean. because as I understand it, if the goal isn't to make the text public, it is possible to achieve whatever you want through 2 decryptions in the place of 1 signature
trinque: where signer is the intended recipient of funds
trinque: mircea_popescu: so if the whole thing gets signed, something like this? >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZG1n8/?raw=true
danielpbarron: i was thinking a signed thing per auction for the bidder/auctioneer to do something with
mircea_popescu: thatr's kind of the gain, since the bot is active minimum auction went from ~1mn ecu (bout 10 bux) to 5% that.
trinque: lobbes: there will be a human operator running the auction, right?
trinque: I don't see that they need to. Rather, deedbot ought to output regular deeds of the transactions it has processed in a given period (week/month)
lobbes: No real *need*, I guess. But if we are going to be deeding these things then I figured I ought to start thinking about what that'd entail from my end
lobbes: Other option I guess being I just keep running tabs and bill once a month or somesuch from my local box, signing from there
lobbes: mircea_popescu, regarding lobbesbot billing for auctions: I'm assuming it should be spitting out a signed bill. Problem being that lobbesbot currently sits on VPS, and I don't want my personal signing key to reside on that box. Would it be a bad idea to sign these bills with lobbesbot's key instead?
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking military march for chrissakes. has the last arranger left in this world died, forgotten and alone ?
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck is wrong with these dorks, from bocelli onwards. IT IS NOT A LYRICAL PIECE!!!
mircea_popescu: and in other "stop this motherfucking spaceship i want to get off", try and find a youtube tannenbaum that's not fucking lyrical to saccharine proportions.
mircea_popescu: "i can't see how crypto relates to me" is exactly how phantoms say "i think i mgiht be a phantom masquerading as a person". they're usually right, too.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-06 17:27 mircea_popescu: Reuel the notion that "the world" somehow "exists" and it is incumbent for reality to "convince it" thus getting that supposed world which somehow exists to empower actual reality is rank nonsense.
mircea_popescu: which speaks directly to the greater point : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-06#1611824
mircea_popescu: the only reason they'd meet with him was if it would count ; much like the only reason you take kim's ass out is if you can then put it on your twinstagram
mircea_popescu: not really asciilifeform ; the russians made no secret of it.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell mod6 please republish the pherkin tests for me plox thx
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-14#1613801 << one more for the 'if he used crypto, he might still be on his throne' list
phf: asciilifeform: another one of little languages for your consideration https://github.com/zserge/partcl
BingoBoingo: Military man can do pushups, but does he have it in his heart to grab the pussy and pull himself up?
mircea_popescu: grab 'em by the pussy!
BingoBoingo: Flynn talked the the Russian ambassador in December as part of preparing for office. Unnamed bureaucrat has been slowly leaking details to press from wiretap. Flynn sinned by lying to Pence. Lying to Pence is a Cardinal sin.
mircea_popescu: the soup's getting ready to boil!
BingoBoingo: ^ lizards score 1, only took them since December
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: by the way which was the article in which you related telling your father that if you ever saw him again you'd kill him?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway, i could never see the business case for canada. << Their crop (softwood lumber) is already grown!!!
ben_vulpes: in other news, the wsj is approximately the only place not using a javascript paywall
mircea_popescu: if you're going there to shoot people, you will be in a dome anyway.
asciilifeform: maybe just me, but i like climates where i dun have to stay in the shielded dome, and can go out without a suit
asciilifeform: living in the swamp -- i can easily picture this
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "climate made for white man". the thing with white man, unlike all other man, is that white man makes climate not the other way around.
asciilifeform: or mircea_popescu simply goes in for the taste
asciilifeform: so somebody cancelled the tsetse fly, and other pleasures of 'climate not made for white man' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: been there yet ?
mircea_popescu: shoot them like guinea pigs.
mircea_popescu: places inhabited by a thin sliver of idiots are essentially brackish water. canada, argentina, the us to a large extent. they're neither fucking nor will get off the pig.
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd rather buy in africa. anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i could never see the business case for canada.
ben_vulpes: the room in which i grew up is larger than the house i rent today.
mircea_popescu: except, he goes there to live. with woman. and small child. that MAY do something.
asciilifeform: as per the thai pub thread
asciilifeform: the mega-q is whether 'buying' does anything there
mircea_popescu: now, whether they kick you out once it settles down is indeed a toss-up, but eventually at some point you're going to have to take a chance.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the ~only place in the world with land worth buying that you can afford to buy today is ukraina.
ben_vulpes: i'd not mind teh ukr, provided i could figure out where the shoosting is happening where it's likely to spread to etc etc
ben_vulpes: then i think slovenia was the next "what if"
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: very little of this is CL. The save-page-complete and save-page-as-text comes as part of the conkeror browser, and I just drive it with CL.
danielpbarron: gabriel_laddel_p, does it not do the whole site?
asciilifeform: or the thing is a glue trap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: maybe i would, or maybe not, but the ~option~ gotta be there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you would like the whole archive.is enchilada ? all the crap ~anyone~ ever saved there ? i imagine it's petabytes by now
mircea_popescu: most of the girls never did, in their whole life.
mircea_popescu: dude fills in forms. i'm like "hey, when's the last time you saw me fill in a form ?". hilarity ensues.
mircea_popescu: rr ; b) goes to some derpy obscure "firm" and spends A WHOLE DAY of his apparently priceless-worthess time doing the equivalent of posting naked selfies all day on twitter.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, every film with michael douglas in it is a piece of shit ; but perhaps none as much as "the game". holy fucking shit, the premise is a dour dude who "has it all", including a disdainful relationship with his ex wife and two hotties vying for his attention at work nevertheless a) lives in a totally empty house. because how fucking hard & unthinkable it would be to get all the ex secretaries to live there hu
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: what part of the thing is something other than standard cl ?
asciilifeform: and i don't mean 'can mirror if i crawl the logs' but IN ONE SHOT
asciilifeform: it is the thing most glaringly missing from archive.is
asciilifeform: (i.e. that i can mirror the ~existing material~ and ~archiver itself~ immediately)
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: the #1 thing i'd like from future archiver is duplicability
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's actually a step in the right direction.
ben_vulpes: in other things i don't hate, this yamhill valley rose of pinots is not foul!
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel_p if it could detect and wipe the idiotic wrap(80) thing that'd be great.
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