asciilifeform: almost as good as the old austrian 18th c thing
asciilifeform: these are neat, it was recced to me for squirrel control
mircea_popescu: o look, the daisy 499b (200 bux) actuallyu does 73mps muzzle velocity. i can even sit across parking lot.
mircea_popescu: oh, i gotta get the stage whores get me a spot light too ?! say it's not so, inconvenience unthinkable.
mircea_popescu: he's goingto have one launchy spot, and ima sit in a chair across the street from it.
asciilifeform: ( and before anyone asks, NO i am not interested in paying moar per raw chip than the pcbs cost now. which is 1 $ )
mircea_popescu: (no, as it stands, you could fly it over white house and nobody would know specifically what's going on. they can only detect them when landed in open air.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ideally, buy a fucking chinese drone, just for the hell of it.
asciilifeform: phf: drop'em from the illicit chopper. 'may as well hang for sheep as for lamb'
phf: also can probably string them as far as adams morgan zoo from your bunker, have a secondary effect as definitely getting labeled as terrorist when caught (lizard territory)
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform is STILL, 3y !! after the original thread, looking for a supplier of RAW esp8266
mircea_popescu: it further has artistic and emotional value.
asciilifeform: say asciilifeform scatters these about. ends up... talking to self
asciilifeform: one gotcha is that the immediate practical ( vs 'fleet in being' ) value of such a thing is ~0.
asciilifeform: they dun care about heat, frost.
asciilifeform: i thought about very basic 'tmsr cicada' - for 84,399 seconds of the day, box listens for rsa-signed packet; 1 second - transmits latest known
mircea_popescu: my vrag naroda cards aren;t erven back from the shop yet.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:09 mircea_popescu: keep the ewes for meat and the goats for the hilarities.
mircea_popescu: electromagnetics + power of the republic = http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688149
phf: but my electronics knowledge is limited, so for me durping with one radio transmitter/receiver is no different than another, because the result is going to be my improved understanding but very little in terms of practical results
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the hypohetical pcb businesscard asciilifeform drew
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i fully agree. that's why i'm nudging the not-entirely-desocialized elements to bring teh light to the masses already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could gild the pages at no extra cost. or you know, plutonim them, platinum them...
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 nothing is going on. go right ahead and generate a proper privkey, compute safely its associated address, and move your coins there.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 i would say so, yes. make sure you use the dicelist method correctly, and make sure the privkey is not exposed to third parties.
ag3nt_zer0: I dont know if there is a risk in transferring NOW seeing as this segwit stuff is going on... is there any kind of chance my coins won't be signed properly or something like this?
ag3nt_zer0: mricea_popescu I know your response to my question is run my own node... but if I currently do not have one set up and wanted to be safe with my coins during this nonsense (i.e. take them off of coinbase & store safely), would following pete_dushenski's guide to creating an offline brainwallet utilizing 13 words arrived at through the dice method using only english dictionary be sufficient until I get an up and running trb node? B
asciilifeform: i'll point out that the al in cd is not exposed to atmosphere.
mircea_popescu: might as well make them optoinspectable neh.
mircea_popescu: you will want to note them on aluminum anyway. ANYWAY
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 23:00 asciilifeform: but as a massively-distributed long-term backup, aluminum is ~unbeaten -- it's probably the only reason asciilifeform was able to find a copy of genera
asciilifeform: may as well scan then, neh
asciilifeform: all them bookz, are old.
mircea_popescu: much better to not have 5 trillion little afid shits eating away at the deliuciouys desert innit now.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, my library in ro could produce a pail a week. a FULL pail.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i had taken you for a man who has and lived with a library. i am one of those also, and i have nfi how you can not immediately think of the
mircea_popescu: right, alf has decided "permanent book, never will rot away" and "1/10th the thickness and 1/3rd the weight of current afid traps" no features./
asciilifeform: ( not 4evah either, al oxidizes at stp. just -- slowly )
asciilifeform: it nicely illustrates the down side
mircea_popescu: can make PAGE arbitrarily thick so all books are the same thickness throughout, if you want. can do all sorts of things./
mircea_popescu: speaking of "why the fuck aren't your clotheslines connected to anything, lamer" : why the ef are they still not making aluminum books ? use 5 mils say, ruberized/siliconized edges...
asciilifeform: and anywhere you can spread a clothesline, you get princely reception
mircea_popescu: yes, but plenty of people live in the by now soviet traditional http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682694
mircea_popescu: the young nazi is supposed to be the natural direction of any ruminant herd, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Mg6Gfh9Co !!!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sorta assumed the ballons were for antennae
mircea_popescu is somewhat nonplussed phf sits around "hackerspace" derping with baloons instead of making the shortwave-nat-over-other-peoples-cars thing fore instance.
asciilifeform: phf: how do i say стрёмный in the king's engl
asciilifeform: idea being -- hardware everyone already has in the cellar
mircea_popescu: this is not at all a bad idea. possibly more expensive than the originally contemplated.
mircea_popescu: let it be clearly stated that there's no such thing in nature as the isolated republican. true thay you may be busy working for a long time, but in the end, isolated citizen == cpu without i/o.
mircea_popescu: shortwave, cuntwave, the works.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:26 mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe they just don't happen to have the magic one. it's my story an' i'm sticking to it till ave1 pops back in.
trinque: did the "revdep-rebuild" and "fix_libtool_files.sh" and apparently none of these ever conceived of a man that wished to go back
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have the wrong one. because this is a thing now, "wrong 4.9"
mircea_popescu: good thing you two decided to put it in the log, sounds exactly what the baked-in "reasonable" move would be, who knows how many souls it claimed.
shinohai: I retardedly did the same thing trinque during one of my earlier attempts w/ ada
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:17 shinohai: http://archive.is/tz5DN “… the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688367 << aw look, brightest minds of the empire tracking trilema a few years late. isn't this cute.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have the wrong one. because this is a thing now, "wrong 4.9"
mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such.
mircea_popescu: and in other passions, http://68.media.tumblr.com/701675cc7cfe69b7377da328b8e5c1e4/tumblr_nd88sfR0iv1tt4iblo1_r1_1280.jpg
phf: so reading pelevin back then might've had a very different effect from reading him now. chapayev and pustota then blew my mind because i read it when it came out and it was very present time, but his 2000s stuff i don't get at all (because i read it in u.s. perhaps), and some things didn't age that well.
trinque: can say that "ah I read some alan watts and huxley, my getting high has a point" *was* that kind of signaling in my younger stoner circles, can see how mp would get there.
phf: but then i was at a potomac jew book club where they were discussing generation p (or one of the earlier novels anyway), and they couldn't get past THE HORROR OF THE 90s, literally entire conversations were about omg so much crime. all these people emigrated right after the collapse, where's for me the staple of 90s (oh there's a dead body on the corner, because petya shnur couldn't share the territory with vasya kulak, shrug) were the norm
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687945 << the problem is that the russian intellectual pose is very irritating to me. the whole fucking text exists so that the author can "roll his eyes" however you say that in russian, aka to bake in somehow unobservedly the proposition the speaker and all those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks ; let alone in 36 yo russian doods.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687972 << i'm not sure that's a criticism that can be leveled at pelevin, he's got other traps though. he has a keen eye for the present, but then he adds a layer of interpretation very much in the style of This Is What's Really Happening, which is usually of esoteric nature. his bratki take psychedelic mushrooms "to get fucked up next level!1" and accidentally break into the a shared buddhist realm of higher being, t
trinque: I'm 30 now; 90s amount to a vague memory of "people might've done things before. maybe in the 80s?"
phf: but the 90s was such a shoulda-coulda-woulda decade, looking at it in retrospect can only reveal your own limitations. so i can understand mp's sentiment
phf: amusingly enough all the mil crowd that was quietly sitting out the 90s are the ones that were making real bank on the sly, and that's the people i should've been reaching out to (considering...)
phf: russian has this neat property of packing double triple meanings into the phrase by using subtle word modifications and word order, which is what asciilifeform tried approximating with "giveya" :)
phf: the point i was trying to make here is that people that i had family/friends contact to that could've been "дядя ваня устроит, поработать" were suddenly!1(tm)(c) all http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687960
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687977 << mostly age, the few years that i'm younger than you i think made all the difference in the 90s scheme of things. by the time i "queuing up in the recruitment strip" it was tail end of the epoch
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 17:05 asciilifeform: they have a phrase they use amongst themselves, 'societal security'.
asciilifeform: '“Fact-toxic” information pertains to actual truths which, the document complains, are “exposed in the absence of context”, and therefore poison “important political discourse.” Such information is seen as being most potent in triggering outbreaks of civil unrest , because it: “… fatally weakens foundational security at an international, regional, national, or personal level. Indeed, fact-toxic exposures are those lik
shinohai: Long live the Kyklos
asciilifeform: 'Observing that U.S. officials “naturally feel an obligation to preserve the U.S. global position within a favorable international order,” the report concludes that this “rules-based global order that the United States built and sustained for 7 decades is under enormous stress.”'
shinohai: http://archive.is/tz5DN “… the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”
asciilifeform: theoretically.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:23 mircea_popescu: but -- the fact that A happens to already have a connection to B and therefore B can S for him does not imply or require either A or B be not behind a nat.
asciilifeform testing ave1's thing. it is an ultra-compact thing, in the style of my original 'stator'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 10:06 ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like the static story but fail to understand why they need to have their own faux systemd
ave1: you're welcome! I'm working on getting the gnat gpl code to work with the gcc 4.9.4 release (now they are using a special version of 4.9)
ave1: it does not yet contain the asis based tools (gnatelim for example)
ave1: after 3 hours or so, you'll have a tar file there with static gcc/gnat tools that are all based on musl
ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like the static story but fail to understand why they need to have their own faux systemd
ave1: I've put up the adapted musl-cross files for building gnat here: http://ave1.org/tarpit/ada-musl-cross-2017-07-21.tgz
trinque: turns out there is, too
trinque: mod6: hey maybe there's some tight white girl pussy inside to visit.
BingoBoingo: Man, people gotta learn ettiquette. If you challenge someone's door, and someone on other side meets your challenge then you gotta offer your own door for their challenging.
trinque: I opened it, asked him if he was having trouble with the lock.
mircea_popescu: and i guess the next round of these idiots will not "know" how to find the previous round in the logs.
mircea_popescu: strange, i thought the stupid shit marttered and was needed and whatnot.
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mircea_popescu: this is no small matter, but touching to the very trunk of the tree of wisdom. inept schoolboy hitler saw WORDS proferred by anglo-sybils in new york as DEEDS of the jews. instead of embracing germany's jews and putting forth the god-obvious "those anglo muppets are jews like ford made tin cans are cars", cut them at the knees of their entirely absent legitimacy and then let the experts (all on his side) wipe the floor with t
asciilifeform: and truly nuked. asciilifeform never once saw j00 'in costume' or in any other culturally relevant sense before usa.
mircea_popescu: there was no better demographic to support nazism than the jews, is the truth of 1935.
mircea_popescu: the germans -- also congenitally retarded -- managed to go to war with all their natural allies in fucking order. the sight, it boggles the mind.
mircea_popescu: now, manwhile goym went to shit making hasids look ultraorthodfox whatever. but not what they were back when they actually carried meaning rather than mere tradiiton.
mircea_popescu: if you've seen cabaret with liza minelli, i would propose that the rich jewish chick there depicted is a very correct rendition of the hasid maiden.
mircea_popescu: the whole concept was to make the wife more of a domestic partner and less of a domestic animal, with better results wrt the control of the young hussies.
mircea_popescu: and it permitted women in the first and fundamental sense of, allowing they are human. not as rabbis, and not usually educated in the formal yeshiva sense. but it did teach them to write and read, which was entirely novel.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is. it was a genuine reform movement, and it was shockingly liberal for the early 1800s born.
mircea_popescu: the hassids permitted. it's complicated, but, in the context of judaism (which is STRICTLY an eastern european affair, just as "united states" will not be a thing of hawaii even long after the continent is no longer us and the island still clings to history), hasidism was a sort of 1800s 1960s. flower power all the way.
mircea_popescu: see, that;s the item there. not when they started praying ; but when the priests started fearing their not praying any longer.
asciilifeform: and i pictured the halflingfaggotgodonastick got 'married with fishwife' when fishwives started praying to him
mircea_popescu: if you will. happens everywhere though. divine boy will make the girl let all her articles of clothing go down the river one by one, and spend the rest of the weekend naked among the trees. base boy will be struck with the girl's beauty, marry her and raise her children.
mircea_popescu: which is how the xtian god ended up married with picket fences and an obnoxious wife. it got corrupted.
mircea_popescu: which is the point here. divinity -- corupts.
asciilifeform: i also readily buy the 'congenital reatarded' item. just say no to cousinfucking, folx. it dun do any good.
mircea_popescu: large part of it is cultural. imagine, alf captured by africans. "tell us the trilema secrets!!1"
asciilifeform: i dun particularly like the hassidim aesthetically, which is neither here nor there, but respect the omerta.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they have ~bulletproof 'omerta' tho . gotta be worth something
mircea_popescu: ftr, i dun beleive in any kind of new york hasidim superiority. for one thing i fear the jews are congenitally retarded. for the other, the time for that item came and went in the 30s.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:43 asciilifeform: however, i gotta ask, what happened to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685436 ? usg beat and imprisoned the rabbis, at the end of the day. so how come it does not 'prove superiority' in mircea_popescu's lens ?
mircea_popescu: the lion no kind of god either, not since its continued existence depends entirely on human gift-giving.
mircea_popescu: the ocean stays the ocean in this discussion for just as long as no one made it ; and not a minute longer. electricity, witness, no longer any kind of god.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:40 asciilifeform: the 'rule of law' racket is exactly about pro forma ban tho.
mircea_popescu: now, iconoclasm is necessarily a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688192 bullshit. but this does not make the iconolater anything more than the common dog, seriously now. manufactured gods ? and what, with a family ?
mircea_popescu: "usg as god" is about as laughable as all the iconodule fare. really, you've made this god-box ? you did ?
asciilifeform: was thinking of the actual sea.
trinque: asciilifeform: is usg one of the gods in this metaphor? smothered the jewish strutting ballsacks?
mircea_popescu: nah. central america, retarded as planks. polynesia, dumber than the average horse. coast of africa off zanzibar ? i think i saw cupcakers with more iq.
asciilifeform not the first or the last to wonder if living by the sea makes for vastly less idiotic cultures 'automatically', from close and regular contact with unforgiving reality
mircea_popescu: romans sucked at sailing for all the ocean scoring.
mircea_popescu: well, the ancients had no venice.
asciilifeform: the ancients did give impression of giving sea 'score' tho
mircea_popescu: this is in a word all of the original most serene republic.
asciilifeform: nope. it's simply how reality reimposes itself on the strutting ballsack.
mircea_popescu: however many it drowns -- its score does not increase. however many go and return -- their score does increase.
trinque: no distinct male voice, can't be any men in there.
mircea_popescu: as the wise jew once said, "here's a bunch of pennies, let god keep what he needs and let the rest fall back down"
asciilifeform: trinque: a beehive is not a man. but there is such a thing as a bee-keeper.
trinque: would appear that's the entire point of it, pervasive scam
mircea_popescu: trinque yes, the miners are the bot without the name. because that's what the tards want of this world -- to act, without responsibility. to be famous, but unknown. stuff.
mircea_popescu: trinque "not a he". dream of all the losers making up the sea of dumb since forever.
trinque: asciilifeform: right, so miners are the invoice bot I'm releasing later in the month, but without my character.
mircea_popescu: ^ the above is exact summary of "segregated witness".
asciilifeform: trinque: segshitness was in re 'we'll stop signing our tx so as to fit Moar in per block, and rando can Never! spend'em because of this other turd we shat out nowhere near the actual blockchain but Miners Will Enforce' approx
asciilifeform: trinque: there is eternal 'megablox' derp, never goes so far as to fork for some odd reason
trinque: wasn't there some derping about 2mb blocks too?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let the anyonecanspendolade bloom? what does it do to actual btc users
mircea_popescu: the substance of the usgtronic "moral panic" was all about how sheldon adelson's macau operations force local girls into prostitution and deal with triads and so on.)
BingoBoingo: In other news: Miners signaled for SegWit 'Lock In" UASF averted, network turbulence expected
a111: Logged on 2017-02-27 12:30 mircea_popescu: (story there was, olympus "hired" aka finally accepted its first foreign devil ceo (michael woodford) in 2011 ; and fired him two weeks later as the dude was principally dedicated to the job of, how can we finance usg out of this japanese corp. the usg however didn't go home, but started "legal proceedings", which eventually resulted in the above theft, plus whatever office supplies woodford managed to take home. apparently 6
mircea_popescu: (incidentally -- sheldon adelson, who is remarkably not ever mentioned by the sort of people who keep going "koch brothers!!!", but otherwise chiefly famous for a) helping trump get 25mn to win the election and b) being involved in a very typically http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-27#1619009 shakedown and then buying newspaper to attack presiding judge and also making the "charge" go away.
asciilifeform: trinque: read the original subj -- buncha rabbis accused of 'torture for hire', jailed
a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 18:54 mircea_popescu: the man who, walking into a room, overpowers all present, is entitled, by right of force, to whatever he may extract.
asciilifeform: however, i gotta ask, what happened to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685436 ? usg beat and imprisoned the rabbis, at the end of the day. so how come it does not 'prove superiority' in mircea_popescu's lens ?
mircea_popescu: yeah well. and dirtyness is exactly about the lice.
asciilifeform: the 'rule of law' racket is exactly about pro forma ban tho.
mircea_popescu: there can never be a proforma ban.
mircea_popescu: there's no proforma ban to my gouging babies eyes out and shoving them up self-same babies arseholes unlubricated.
asciilifeform: was the rabbi trial about words, tho
a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
mircea_popescu: there shall be no banning of words. this does not reduce to my saying nigger ; or for that matter to http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-30#998185
asciilifeform: i dun work there
mircea_popescu: and if they did -- asciilifeform also not in a position to say if this is good or bad.
asciilifeform: but tru, asciilifeform was not in the warehouse, has nfi whether buncha rabbis wires some schmuck to the mains or not
mircea_popescu: nevertheless. it's not whether they did or did not do. that consideration can't be reach for lack of standing.
asciilifeform: on the day that it stops chasing after folx playing usg-in-miniature , may as well close shop neh
mircea_popescu: the usg has no title and no right to ascertain such "crimes".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the reason to suspect you're not "holding woman against her will" ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> if only he scored the sub, too.. i dun think usg coast guard carries depth charges << Some bigger boats likely do
mircea_popescu: teh good old teitelbaums, owning a larger school sytstem than the state, helped along to "dynastic disension" etcetera.
a111: Logged on 2014-12-12 05:24 mircea_popescu: http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/13585/ultra_orthodox_jews_in_new_york_rally_against_israeli_army_draft_plans << check out the pics lol
jhvh1: asciilifeform: 2013 New York divorce torture plot - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_New_York_divorce_torture_plot>; U.S. Accuses 2 Rabbis of Kidnapping Husbands for a Fee - The ...: <http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/nyregion/rabbis-accused-in-kidnapping-plot-to-force-men-to-grant-divorces.html%3Fmcubz%3D2>; Rabbis Accused in Kidnap, Torture Plot to Gain Divorces - Newser: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: hmmm i never put this in the logs ?!
asciilifeform: goes best with the 'death ray of new york' 'plot'
mircea_popescu: smells of usgtronic nonsense miles away ; much like the usg-organized kidnapping and extorsion of orthodox rabbis in the "divorce torture plot"/
asciilifeform: if only he scored the sub, too.. i dun think usg coast guard carries depth charges
mircea_popescu: (the defense attorney name kicks all possible ass)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally re the sub dreams you certainly know of fainberg ?
BingoBoingo: McCain is not better. McCain apparently gave away the phylactry and is no longer invulerable to the natural immortaility of his oldgender.
mircea_popescu: so let there be a lot of goat-headed new jews, what.
BingoBoingo: You forget the Jewish peculiarity. If you knock up a Jewish woman, even if the baby comes out dark chocolate, it is still 'on their team' jewfro and all.
mircea_popescu is all for an organised effort of "their own community" forced goat prostitution. why exactly is hillary clinton not naked in the barn atm ?
mircea_popescu: ewish women into prostitution,[6][page needed] and were generally considered a scourge within their own community.
mircea_popescu: Following Cohen's line of reasoning, one could say that Jewish-American organized crime played a role in the emancipation of the Jewish-American community from the ancient stereotypes. However, Cohen's description of Jewish gangsters ignores their criminality and immorality. These tough characters were still gangsters who extorted, exploited and murdered other members of the Jewish-American community for profit. They forced J
mircea_popescu: If Jewish gangsters still thrived today, if they hadn't gone legit, if Jews of my generation didn't regard them as figments, creatures to be classed with Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster, I think the Jewish community would be better off.[11]
mircea_popescu: wikipedia is such a lulz. after the earlier "ddt from an usian perspective" lulz, here's jewish manhood from an old woman's lens :
BingoBoingo: So, apparently a lot of Lichs do the coinbase thing and don't keep sole/soul possession of their phylacterys
mircea_popescu: something in the vein of, "he disapproves of her lipstick, because its color is almost but not quite imperial purple, and he's prophyrogenitos himself".
mircea_popescu: anner. not because he hates her as she's his only lay (and willingly and freely given, at that) but because subtle differences of no actual substance are important to him as the basis and guarantee of the imagined substance of his own self.
mircea_popescu: back to the ironic detachement of they already detached : guy will never construct his nonsense into a positive something, like a great detachtard novel (which is what makes elliot so remarkable, it's like seeing what the africans thought an airplane'd be like, BY THEMSELVES). it's always a little formal curl that begets the whole system if you can be arsed to unearth it. so he disapproves of the whore's speech, or dress or m
mircea_popescu: they will complain to me about republican ux and to the inca about the poverty of the bribes.
asciilifeform: recall how elliot (tm)(r) despised his father's house etc
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 02:45 asciilifeform: the forced dependency -- grates. the detail that it is forced by the sufferer's own inadequacy is never interesting to him
asciilifeform: indulge me, Cory , say in what is the thrill.
asciilifeform: given that there are logs.
asciilifeform: ( the ones to whom it was interesting - ate nagant and you won't meet'em )
asciilifeform: the forced dependency -- grates. the detail that it is forced by the sufferer's own inadequacy is never interesting to him
mircea_popescu: generally, the cab's "rolled eyes" is almost never in the form of "great american novel". he'll disapprove loudly of the whores, for instance, even as he depends on them for his only sexual outlet.
mircea_popescu: possibly the most visible and best documented case of a sybiling in nature.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd generation did not care for this, and so literally sybilled the old shcmucks (luciano and gang, infiltrated all the orgs, and ~randomly picked a boss to kill first while feigning loyalty to the other)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, mob history is very apropos. so -- originally, hard set loser elements of the sicilian caudillo class moved over, and aimed to maintain in the new place the old place. this did not work irl, because they were small portion of the new place (worked fine in argentina later).
asciilifeform: do they reveal 'i'ma write great poems any day nao!1!' ?
asciilifeform: my telepathy-fu is is not up to the job of saying what was in the heads of the silent cabbies. so i'll take mircea_popescu's word.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's "silently" in that they can't be arsed to communicate the spinning any longer. not in the sense it's not there.
asciilifeform: ( they also collected sad welfare cheques and sat on brighton beach, but these mostly collected by the reaper by nao )
mircea_popescu: hardly. none of these have a plain and simple nigger's "I never injured any of those women," reflected I, with meek resignation: "but God will be kinder to me and to my errors than they are!" conviction.
asciilifeform: silently, for the most part.
mircea_popescu: if i were one of them i'd also run a cab.
mircea_popescu: because it's very convenient, a cab, for their purpose. it allows the "ironic detachment" with still a modicum of interaction present.
asciilifeform: iirc we recently had the 'sausage emigres' thread. most of the folx were really 'running from own stupid self' and this is not mega-seekrit.
mircea_popescu: well now there is.
mircea_popescu: hey, i give you the one success in the whole "jewish mafia" troop to make the point -- actually tried. one did ring it ; most didn't. but all tried.
asciilifeform: waitasec, in what sense lansky 'failure' ? the hollywood racket boss ?
mircea_popescu: there was jewish imigration into the us before ; you know them by name, like you know, murder inc.
mircea_popescu: because nothing can beat the sugar of self delusion in those so inhabituated ; much like there's no dating in the future of Masturbation S Elliot.
asciilifeform: failed shot at the brass ring neh
mircea_popescu: why be a professor and actually a good one and then suddenly marry a cab ?
mircea_popescu: there is no accounting for stupid.
asciilifeform: yeah but why be a pirate and presumably a good one and then suddenly marryjesus.
mircea_popescu: people who overperceive themselves always desert no matter how fed ; and people who don't overperceive themselves never do, also no matter how fed.
mircea_popescu: and the incontrovertible truth of the matter is that you can ALWAYS desert into fantasyworld. "marry jesus" rather than the extant boys.
mircea_popescu: end of ru 90s was strictly desertion into perelman fantasyworld by the foot soldier. much like end of europe 1700s was -- desertion into socialist fantasyworld by foot soldier.
mircea_popescu: eg it's quite plainly to see argentina will go straight to shit : 16yo there is following her mom around, rather than being ashamed of being seen with her.
mircea_popescu: it's not "most eager whores". it's whether 15 yo is "i will burn down the fucking house while you sleep rather than not follow these guys".
mircea_popescu: it ends, in the sense that you either have the critical mass of organised youth raping and pillaging, or you do not. and the drag force of whether young cunts (and no, boys aren't anything but young cunts ftr) do perceive they're alive and do follow sense ; or imagine themselves dead and hang out with the stupid old women makes a difference irl.
asciilifeform: ( lulzily i saw 'youtube' not long ago and got the 'recommended' film 'how to try to float with cement boots' ... )
mircea_popescu: this isn't the criteria per se.
asciilifeform: ( wai mircea_popescu not there, i wondered )
mircea_popescu: and they existed very much because ro girls, unlike russki stupid cunts, did NOT perceive themselves at some kind of liberty to not whore up for the gangster class.