phf: i remember people wedging around there, but i didn't personally observe it
mod6: <+phf> that's because you didn't try to simply use the patch to makefile that i posted on the list << i've had a trb openbsd since you posted this yes.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> zoolag live as of now at ye olde 108.31.170.49 . << thanks for the update.
asciilifeform: gentlemen, if anybody wants his wire back, write in. but it won't do you much good until the thing is synced.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG PANZERS , welcome back the new zoolag
asciilifeform: ...fixed. the docs lied re default route
asciilifeform: motheFUCKER 'route: writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable' when rebooted with the by-the-book static ip config.
asciilifeform: you have nfi whether it is actually a last year's hex string, fed back to you again.
asciilifeform: what's there to inspect ?
trinque: that yes, user has to be careful, not automate response, inspect the item in his hands before !!v
asciilifeform: however one of the things that i always had ill ease about re pgp challenge-responsetrons , is that enemy who somehow substituted one, can get you to decrypt a message of his choice. (e.g. last year's launch codes.)
asciilifeform: incidentally i have nfi how you got bdb to build, bsd libtool seems to be broken , tries to write to /include and barfs ( rather than to the demanded local dir )
phf: of course, why would i suggest it otherwise? :o
asciilifeform: phf: the result runs ?
phf: and the most important part is to replace -l pthread with "-Wl,--whole-archive -lpthread -Wl,--no-whole-archive" which in fact should be happening on all os
phf: that memory is incorrect, the correct memory would be of ~you~ barfing at the then suggestion of supporting bsd :>
asciilifeform attempts a build of traditional stator trb inside netbsd ( as rotor is unnecessary there, there is no drepper glibc )
phf: tramp when it sets up remove ssh scaffolding, sends small inline scripts which defensively retranslate what emacs wants, rather then doing "ssh foo ls"
phf: emacs for example with their tramp has layers of fallback (oh you don't have perl? it's ok, we'll do it with toothpicks, but takes 2x longer)
asciilifeform: does weird things, doesn't see home dir on login via fish, and if manually put there, refuses to write
asciilifeform: midnight/'fish' dun work with the heathen shell either, i end up having to tar up whatevers and sftp'em in/out , takes 100x as long
asciilifeform: if i had to pick b/w not having indoor shitter and not having tab completion, i'd pick the former.
asciilifeform: no shell with tabcompletion, even. pure agony to so much as work on the thing.
asciilifeform: all heathen liquishit.
asciilifeform: ( no trb yet, but enough to re-pour the cement... )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 17:39 asciilifeform: later on i'ma pull the drive & try guessing the magic params and writing'em in on other box.
asciilifeform: lobbes: plz examine what you sent , because i dun see anything of the sort.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-05#1694201 << eh? Reread message I sent (maybe I can't word things). There was a mistake that benefits me, not you :)
asciilifeform: later on i'ma pull the drive & try guessing the magic params and writing'em in on other box.
asciilifeform: literally doesn't need usb for ANYTHING but the config
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 23:12 asciilifeform: it dun need replacement per se, was dead disk. i took the downtime as chance to try netbsd on same iron, when new disk came. iirc i explained this upstack.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, i DID get netbsd going on http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694103 box. but sad part is, it is useless, because 1) no usb 2) nic needs config 3) no way to connect kbd...
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the cellars of the shitreich, https://archive.is/mpbcX >> '...ederal prosecutors also attempted to block Hutchins' request for bail on grounds he had shot firearms at a shooting range last week while in Vegas for the Black Hat and Defcon security gatherings'
asciilifeform: shinohai: lulzy usgtorpropping of the monero nonsense
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: http://archive.is/i66hf “As of today, we have taken measures to blacklist all addresses associated with the WannaCry attackers that are known to the ShapeShift team"
BingoBoingo: In other lolz, herGerman University no more https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/08/04/study-finds-many-european-academics-are-reluctant-teach-english
phf: we have another caller, hello, you're on air
phf: a quite type eh, well, it's 4:30am, tmsr, i'm waiting for your calls, meanwhile, .. frankie bones, the man, the legend, on … tmsr radio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZbogMbh3iM
phf: not sure if you want it, but you have the floor.
phf: this one's for Vexual, https://soundcloud.com/robot-heart/the-scumfrog-on-robot-heart-thursday-night-at-burning-man-2010
phf: and since it's a slow night at tmsr, in other non-news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGyW3IJZL0
mircea_popescu: anyway. no actual jews were hurt in the makinbg of this retrospective.
mircea_popescu: anyway. censorship as usually idiotic, there's really not that much "propaganda" involved.
mircea_popescu: you might have to go through kgb archives to locate a print. i rather doubt the internet has such doubleplusungood material.
BingoBoingo: Well, appearance thereof, and crumbling.
mircea_popescu: and in other humble living news, a pound of frozen maraschino cherries, a coupla bananas, a dozen or two shots of prime rum, milk and ice qs blend into a rather pleasant cocktail
mircea_popescu: upon examination seems more in the vein of "gifts for sex works". sure it works. in the sense of "if she was going to fuck you anyway, then totally".
mircea_popescu is watching "der ewige jude". holy shit it's bad. who the fuck came up with the notion "propaganda works" anyway ?
mircea_popescu: in other somewhat-lulz, https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6rjzqz/two_biggest_bitcoin_subs_according_to_their/
mircea_popescu: as there's no natural nails for the "feminist" hysteria to hang its plurious hats from, generally any salient features of the environment will be co-opted. which is the story here as it is with every other mentally ill / imbecile heroine of the nonsense.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Sada Abe - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sada_Abe>; Sada Abe | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers: <http://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/abe-sada.htm>; Smiling Sada Abe - FamousPictures.org: <http://www.famouspictures.org/smiling-sada-abe/>
mircea_popescu: in other news, kichizo ishida's severed penis disappeared from teh tokyo uni medical school museum at some point.
asciilifeform: anyway above contemplation is a year+ of sweat and all you get at the end is a very expensive arm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform move the pogo cpu ? lol.
asciilifeform: ah i thought implication was 'mod the board'
asciilifeform: ever take close look at board with sdram ? needs equal paths ( the wiggling lines you see are called 'meanders' )
mircea_popescu: board is no such a huge deal. for one thing they're all farmed out anyway, and most parts are off the shelf ; for the other -- how the fuck are you gonna cut off the on-chip nasty.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only way the latter happens is new board from 0
mircea_popescu: there';s no fundamental reason trb needs more than about 5mb or so of ram ; but this aside : gotta find a way to put your own ram in the damned arm boxes.
asciilifeform: there is no fundamental reason for this.
asciilifeform: it dun need replacement per se, was dead disk. i took the downtime as chance to try netbsd on same iron, when new disk came. iirc i explained this upstack.
mircea_popescu: i thought the problem was the intel bios lock + the inept usb3 combo, rather than the simple presence of usb3 ?
mircea_popescu: there's also stuff from biostar, zotac, ecs which imo sucks, and so on.
asciilifeform: also problem is the soldered down ram.
asciilifeform: ( they clock it down to sata2 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc the g-series amds went into fanless embeds. pretty sure they take s3 ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 21:13 asciilifeform: i dun even pin this on the netbsd people, they are the dangling corpse in the relationship with wintel
asciilifeform: *the
asciilifeform: realize, i dun have the iron i have because i found it on he sidewalk.
mircea_popescu: but this does not fix the bot.
mircea_popescu: because the box is broken.
asciilifeform: ( nic dun go -- then wat. )
asciilifeform: possibly one could try building a netbsd that doesn't try to touch the usb chip at all. then enjoy setting up sans keyboard.
mircea_popescu: no bios and must run usb3 seems to disqualify the hardware, not netbsd, though.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694049 << cuntoo being the evident and correct solution, rather than the constant two weeks.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 19:31 trinque: shoulda said he "raped her". she'd have her own youtube channel by now, or w/e the kids do.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694018 << kids dunno how to work the ropes of herdemocracy.
asciilifeform: mod6: i elementarily don't have the time.
mod6: yeah, takes some time to setup. well worth it in the end... just takes some time.
asciilifeform: motherfucker. i dun even USE usb3 for anything.
asciilifeform: i'll point out that this was the fiddybux 'celeron' box that beat the living shit out of $maxint dulap : strictly on account of having ssd
asciilifeform: because the shitware iron does not in fact follow anything resembling a spec. it follows a liquishit that would take up five walls of book if ever put to paper -- which it won't be -- and co-developed with winblowz shitware driver, which ~runs, and rathead shitware 'open' sores driver, which runs, and naught ever else.
asciilifeform: i dun even pin this on the netbsd people, they are the dangling corpse in the relationship with wintel
asciilifeform: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2013/11/11/msg023663.html << 2013! and before anyone asks, the proposed fix dun work.
asciilifeform: cure on the netbsd forums is 'turn off usb3'. twist : CANNOT be disabled on the box in question
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform took the chance made by the death of ssd in 'zoolag' to attempt netbsd. result : no boot. ( with or without 'no acpi' ) option, hangs at usb init.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ( 'why should we ship dev tool! we're a binary turd, microshit by other name' ) << this
asciilifeform: ( 'why should we ship dev tool! we're a binary turd, microshit by other name' )
asciilifeform: mod6: typically rathead variants
mod6: Haven't heard back yet, but instructed to install whatever package contains `patch` and proceed from there.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> edivad: what kind of system are you building trb on that shipped without `patch`? << this is the same thing I said.
trinque: shoulda said he "raped her". she'd have her own youtube channel by now, or w/e the kids do.
ben_vulpes: in other old lady state news, girl who texted guy to kill himself got 15 months in the pen
lobbes: ben_vulpes: you'll want it to be .html too :P << Related phun phact: plaintext versions of static #eulora log pages are available by lopping off the ".html" e.g. "http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-08-01.log.html" >> "http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-08-01.log"
lobbes: Ohey, mircea_popescu you should switch the logs.minigame.bz link to "http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html"; currently is set to the static page of 8-4-2017
mircea_popescu: these dorks evaporated in two days, and the cavalry is coming in january ? all of the "investors" and "Speculators" and "Experts" in bitcoin crash will have long moved on, most of them through multiple different "new big thing".
mircea_popescu: lobbes no, the january 1st is top kek.
mircea_popescu: aand in other mini-news, <li>#trilema <a href=http://btcbase.org/log/>l</a><a href=http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema>o</a><a href=http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today>g</a><a href=http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-08-04.log.html>s</a>.</li>.
asciilifeform: console another 150.
asciilifeform: ( slightly less than double of what the comp i am sitting on now, eats )
asciilifeform: then alpha died and curtain.
asciilifeform: last gasp was the emulator, on dec alpha ( forced choice, no other 64bit chip on the market then ) , ran at 3x speed of the best actual chip
asciilifeform: eventually they shrunk ~whole thing down to 1 die ( + crapple mac 'quadra' for support ) and bankrupted to dead in the process.
asciilifeform: as for weight, original bolix was doublefridge size. the 3620 (what i have here) was paraded when debuted by the ceo hand carried on a stage in front of audience, 'only 100 pounds!'
mircea_popescu: i'm not faulting them for it ; but the matter remains. 100kg and 5KW/h for the battery-powered fpga ? aww!
asciilifeform: if we're speaking of 1980s, no comp maker then engineered 'for power draw and ecology', it was a nonstarter
mircea_popescu: would be pretty funny, considering that's the one point the "supremely engineered" items were never really engineered for. power draw, weight, ecological considerations of that sort.
asciilifeform: ( and that's the global clock net max, rather than 'hey i can make a pentium pro'. LUT delay is 10ns+ iirc )
asciilifeform: ( though admittedly i do not know the conditions which determine when )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose exceptions could be found. but take constructions (architects + actual builders). exceptions could there also be found, but THE OTHER WAY.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because that's how it goes, whether to have a caste at all comes before what kind shall it be.
mircea_popescu: certainly us doctors are as egomaniacal idiotic as all other usg-aryan groups, financial experts, lawyers, etc. however, they are not derelict in their actual work (unlike the financial dorks, but like the lawyhers)
asciilifeform: was referring to 'medical profession' in the desirable 'people who actually use antiseptics and know how not to cut random arteries as they go' rather than 'caste of egomaniacal brahmins' american sense.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit re the comp is the absence of anything corresponding to the actual medical profession
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but not THAT internal. most people consider themselves qualified to operate on that part.
asciilifeform: point ( and i stole it from naggum, it is neither original to me nor to him ) is that most folx know better than to operate on their friends' internals
mircea_popescu: (which is what makes the jeremy irons horror film. when obgyn decides "women are monstrously malforned, need better tools", all other obgyns know he's insane.)
mircea_popescu: veterinary tools are not much worse for the job than what was found in a hospital cca 1970. the problem with obgyn is the hand not the tool.
asciilifeform: there used to be a population of quacks offering 'cheap, discrete' abortions with veterinary tools they somehow got hold of, & similar
mircea_popescu: the imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: which is the sad point that i am constrained to make against my will : there's a good fucking reason for tivoization.
mircea_popescu: this is the problem. don't give orc fucking teflon tape.
mircea_popescu: if they didn't have access to human tools and tech generally, their stupidity would be unsustainable.
mircea_popescu: their bane is technology. /me saw pipe screwed in backwards (for some reason pipe had been threaded the wrong way for the nut). but with the help of teflon tape (GAS version, btw) it only leaked a little. dripped.
asciilifeform: i recently saw a truck painted with ad, 'we are the plumber who will fix the pipe your husband 'fixed' '
mircea_popescu: andf in the "don't do more damage than the shop would charge ; and don't take longer than it'd take to take to shop" view... god help us. 0% and leave it at that.
mircea_popescu: you gotta a) read the fucking manual to find oil drain spot ; b) lift front on crank ; c) set a large enough recipient correctly on the ground.
asciilifeform: in old-time su, when auto aficionados all had access to a pit, they could
mircea_popescu: o yeah ? you think people generally can change their oil ?
asciilifeform: but rather like bragging about changing oil in auto.
asciilifeform: ( and toshiba is rotting in hell, who knows if toslink will be around in near future. and for some reason they use slow slew rate diode and it tops out at 1M/s )
asciilifeform: a trial with toslink is in the worx but omfg i have too few hands and infinite work
asciilifeform: it is not The Right Thing.
asciilifeform: and it ain't a 'cable too short' either -- i used a 4-metre fiber
asciilifeform: btw that laser was a bit wonky, i hesitate to recommend it : it would overpower the receiver if the fiber were actually screwed in all the way 'to the hilt', and barf
asciilifeform: (i.e. made no diff, in a lab setting, whether power source was pc (mine is on isolated mains however) or batt )
asciilifeform: ( and revisiting http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/cagetest/2.jpg , for completeness, one coax is dc 5v , other -- ttl output )
asciilifeform: all it shows is that the thing did not ~obviously~ pick up voiceofamerica.
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/cagetest/1.jpg << the material (in this case, clear, but comes in all types) curled around the ferrites in pic
asciilifeform: then yes.
asciilifeform: 'the lady goes'
asciilifeform: i since tested the j1forth thing on same board. builds, runs.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other "isn't this lulzy", Aug 04 02:21:45 * mircea_popescu has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Aug 04 02:21:45 * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
asciilifeform: it isn't the only compat. devboard , by any means. but probably the smallest and most self-contained.
asciilifeform: examples/icestick/example.v BUILDS and programs and runs... blinkenlichten blink in the specified order.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: synthesis appears to work.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 02:20 asciilifeform: 'yosys' is that chain's verilog synth; the whole shebang is quite dead in the water without it.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 06:37 mircea_popescu: what the shit is this pile of batshit insane nonsense even supposed to mean, besides "o shit, the republic is taking over, quick! pretend like we';re doing soemthing"
mircea_popescu: what the shit is this pile of batshit insane nonsense even supposed to mean, besides "o shit, the republic is taking over, quick! pretend like we';re doing soemthing"
mircea_popescu: " Our goal: smack-dab in the middle of a public Reddit or HackerNews or Twitter conversation, you should be able to say "Hey, I threw those gifs/libraries/whatever in our encrypted keybase folder" without ever asking for more identifying info. If that person hasn't installed Keybase yet, your human work is still done. They can join and access the data within seconds, and your device will quietly handle the verification and re
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what the fuck is this dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: somehow that they all use the EXACT FUCKING TWO LINES as per the usg permit doesn't bother them. what, all lemmings think the same way, they independently and distinctly selected the exact some item for their illustrative needs. and they selected it out of the work in discussion, believe, not out of the reichkomissar's permit.
mircea_popescu: "Laß in deine Hand, Führer, uns vor aller Welt bekennen. Du und wir, nie mehr zu trennen stehen ein für unser deutsches Land." thereof is cited (with special washington reich permission, no doubt) by about five billion "different" and no doubt "independent" that "are giving quotes". you know, for illustrative purposes. to illustrate a point.
mircea_popescu: in other unhappeneds, agnes miegel's an den fuhrer never existed, as far as the "gateway to world's culture" is concerned.
ben_vulpes: WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE PHORKS, KEYBASE?
ben_vulpes: egregiously papers over the notion that signing should be a special, considered act.
asciilifeform: ohyea the one with 'chicago typewriter'.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the idea is that this was some chicago hardass who "viewed the world as a battleground". very different chicago in 1927.
BingoBoingo: Give Fna a sheet of paper. Let the adorable one encode it as only he can, at his leisure.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and when pharaon ramses rules from anchorage, they will 'vote' ramses. beggars ain't agents.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i saw transgenderfucked beggars, expelled from 'art school', on the pavement. << And when they die during the winter they will still vote Pantsuit. It's what Chicago does. Along with it's downstate mestatasis Belleville and East Saint Louis.
mircea_popescu: dime-a-dance girl turned major star, etc. it's the substance of both love me or leave me and "the roaring twenties"
mircea_popescu: one of the better stories of 30s hollywood (they did very few original scripts then as now) was the story of ruth etting and moe the gimp snyder.
asciilifeform: i suppose from humane pov they oughta be put out of their misery, but rockets cost money and i can't picture anyone will ever spare one for them.
asciilifeform: i saw transgenderfucked beggars, expelled from 'art school', on the pavement.
asciilifeform: where half the lifts dunwork.
asciilifeform: i go there on bizbis sometimes. into a mostly empty soot-coloured skyscraper.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the latter is quite depopulated as is
asciilifeform: would very happily call in the strike on own coordinates tho, if could.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 04:27 mircea_popescu: even alf got the fuck out of there, which was the last serious impediment. #nukedc
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1693758 << i've never lived in the city walls proper; or outside of thermonuke fire zone either
BingoBoingo: Hard to tell till the accumulation of cold bodies start slowing down.
mircea_popescu: the problem with heroin is that it's a very stupid drug. as such, it goes in cycles, about 20 years long or so (ie, as long as it takes for a new generation of lemmings to entirely forget). it's on a downcycle right now.
mircea_popescu: the "government", as usgtards importantly call the aspie enablers, has gone about as long as it'll go. they nominally control a majority of the territory, but this looks well set for an inflection.
mircea_popescu: the one salient point, which apparently makes it even into the officialist crapolade, is that, to quote them, "the situation in afghanistan continues to deteriorate". in fact, afghanistan is about to fall.
mircea_popescu: and in other "abstraction meets reality" lulz, http://lekki.adsafrica.com.ng/category/145/ "women seeking women in nigeria".
BingoBoingo: In other scuttlebutt, now Bezos' Amazon WAPO is implying a military coup against Trump may be impending
mircea_popescu: batshit insane and rather dumb "female" dood, was going to do something or other by some date or other back in 2014.
mircea_popescu: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/10695204/Paranoia-leads-Vladimir-Putin-to-the-point-of-no-return.html << o dude, there's no news like old news.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-15#560677 <<< remember back when 3d printing was THE tech ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i have nfi what all this is about. pick up hand cutter, make a straight cut in the item, remove with plain screwdriver.
asciilifeform: fwiw i bought tires not long ago, and they had to ask for the magic adapter. apparently not kept in shop as a routine item.
mircea_popescu: or anglo round, either way.
BingoBoingo: Dented with bmw wheel wrench, so he has the impression to clone
a111: Logged on 2017-07-26 23:54 mircea_popescu: oh oh, and guess the name of my car mechanic ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi why even have this caltrop, who the fuck steals wheels, outside of shitafrica
mircea_popescu: "dude it's in the trunk" "oh!"
mircea_popescu realises bmw actually came with special wheel wrench in the trunk.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how misshapen can it be ? french wrench or the insider tension thing will get it whatever it is wut.
ben_vulpes: poor guy's nuts were inset into the rim
asciilifeform: i think i have one of these ...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: is this the old gimmick where 1 nut is misshapen , and comes with magical wrench ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Drm's about the "lock"
ben_vulpes: all i know is that hardware drm has arrived at the fucking wheels
ben_vulpes: gotta adhere to these unexamined moral systems
BingoBoingo: Oh, noes, the tools police might find out /s
ben_vulpes: in other holyshit do i live in drmistan: "call every single person i know to see if i can borrow one (locking lug nut removal tool), and the universal response is 'lol it's not legal for us to sell you one, much less lend them out'"
mircea_popescu: if they're not there, any historical trace of a ps -eo cmd,args | grep "mysql" (or the same command run on a similar system) will provide a -datadir= string.
mircea_popescu: nvert them to sql format (iirc mysqldump works for this)
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron re " I'm not looking forward to learning how to get data out of a mysql database located on the hard drive of a system that doesn't boot anymore." : generally you can find mysql's data files in /var/lib/mysql/[database_name]. there's going to be in that dir a .myi and a .myd for each table in your db. if you simply create the old db in the new place and copy them over it'll prolly work. if not, you'll have to co
mircea_popescu: "any day now, is declares kabul califate and we'll go play the fecundity goddess priestesses, chained to a granite pillar downtown".
mircea_popescu: which is understandable, swedish woman living in a country where the last erection hapepned cca 1962 has a very cerebral, anxiotic fear of rape. whereas younger daughter of rape tribe that was bought by us desk flier's illegitimate local son to be "civilised" housewife has a very lived-experience fear of same item.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> tbh i very much like the danielpbarron write-up style of "this is how to do x ; if you're lazy i'll do it for you costs this much". << Second
mircea_popescu: not to mention item being accross from like a school and catty corner from where the rich afghani aspie class whores went to get their nails and perms done, the afghani aspie class is pretty scared.
mircea_popescu: apparently they lost 3-4 dozen people to gunfire (from 3 militants) and can't hire replacements.
a111: Logged on 2014-03-15 15:10 mircea_popescu: "For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective
asciilifeform: hastily piled ???s, and amidst them various office crud (printers, etc) suggestive of dust gathered since clinton era.
asciilifeform: phun phakt, not long ago asciilifeform toured 'iraq embassy' ( there's an 'embassy expo' each yr in dc ). it was quite clear that the place isn't actually used in the daily sense
asciilifeform: wilderness is 1 thing, gazpromistan is other
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you recall, whgen i was trying to get ben_vulpes to collect a bus'worth of local sluts and go throw an unauthorized party around those people the usg was trying to drive off their land ?
asciilifeform: where do i attend the demonstration in favour of usa losing alaska ?
asciilifeform: ' this man hangs in #trilema , #perl , #crustaceans, we must arrest immediately before the irreparable happens '
mircea_popescu: also, funny item re hetzner : back in 2014, there was a large demonstration in novosibirsk in favour of you know, russia losing siberia. the russian govt pressured everyone to not discuss the matter, including bbc. the ukrainians at the time didn't feel inclined to comply, so hetzner took glavcom.ua and others offline, because hey, unlicensed republic.
asciilifeform: draws, i suppose, on the output end, fancy wall chart of terrorist connectionz in the ministry of lulz break room.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does the same join/part in eulora for instance, says nothing and that's unmoded.
asciilifeform: ( and that's merely the ones publicly logged )
asciilifeform: likewise even in spamindergarten they teach to pipe liquishit from 1 ip, host own front door on other.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one of these traces to hetzner, comsumer in gauteng, johannesburg, sa ; the other is softlayer
mircea_popescu: really, consumer items all of them ?