kanzure: well if it's true that i was the origin of her doxx (which is totally possible, i fucked up), that might color her deicsion, although her continuing to talk with me anyway doesn't add hope to that being right
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: briefly revisiting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706495 : i'm beginning to wonder if it was simply because of WHO asked. i can't really blame $chix for not relishing the prospect of kanzure et al riding her l337 w4r4z to stolen relevancy esr-style
trinque: we dump our water on the surrounding areas!
mod6: asciilifeform: then that's more ideal than what I'm workin with for sure.
mod6: trinque: thx! how goes down there?
trinque: deedbot's as listed, til I sign otherwise
asciilifeform: ( zoolag still syncing , however. slowly walking through the upper 300s atm )
asciilifeform: mod6: mine still exactly where they were last month
mod6: Speaking of which, if any Republicans have any changes to their advertised node, now is the time to let me know. Thanks!
shinohai: Ah yes, time for the soba
shinohai: Iused to have a kiwi irc there too, but prefer gb
mod6: went back to that .ua place kramarczuk's for lunch. had another ruban, got more sausages from the deli. couldn't resist.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 23:47 danielpbarron: oh idk, i probably reset it a few times in the process but i do that even on my 32 gig RAM box
mircea_popescu: yeah the 100 blocks thing is no good.
asciilifeform: there's an inflection point, where slow box behind by some B blox, can never catch up
asciilifeform: if you're ready to swap them biyearly -- i suppose it's an answer, of sorts.
asciilifeform: ( with 0 ooms or otherwise reset of process )
mircea_popescu: anyway. it seems rather obvious that after the decapitation of new york "financial" brains, the decapitation of california "tech" brains is coming up.
mircea_popescu: also, i thought the guy was dead. did he return ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 23:24 mats: he also reiterates a sense of usg enduring through its current debt and deficits, and i struggle to understand how he, a great builder, can believe that fiscal irresponsibility will be rewarded in the future
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706838 << intellectual laziness. it'd be easier if the item that organised his mental life as a youth didn't go to hell in a handbasket during his life.
asciilifeform: and who knows what other treasons.
mircea_popescu: anyway. google thinks it's a-ok for them to null name adverts.
asciilifeform: but yes it worx ( for nao ) via the eurasian and eastasian incacitadels
mircea_popescu: aite then.
asciilifeform: deliberately did not bother for this example
mircea_popescu: can at the very least have a diverse herd of liars.
mircea_popescu: eys but nobody obliges you to just eat google turds re the namechain.
mircea_popescu: like you know, the way you do your node infrastructure, triangulation etc.
mircea_popescu: how about use a better resolving scheme if you're the special sort of ... ahem that uses dns in the first place.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: AB :: "Aryan Brotherhood" A known prison gang consisting of neo-nazis or skinheads. [ex:] Look at my new "AB" tattoo. I got it in prison after joining the Aryan Brotherhood. [/ex] | Ass-backwards, behind the times, not modern [ex:] Man this state is AB! I can't even find a 7-11. [/ex] | Acronym for Adult Baby... see [infantilism], [adult baby] [ex:] "Hey dude, why are you wearing a (13 more messages)
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 23:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706669 << i'm slightly surprised this was not yet Officially banned in 'mainstream' gui wwwtrons 'for the common good of HerDemoocracy' yet
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706819 << it sorta is, "security" whining about certs. then again, you have to be a special sort of retard to try and run dailystormer as a) a domain name and b) https.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 22:52 mats: its an opportunity for cantwell to really get to know the movement
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's a trilema about why rando doesn't talk to the press. this rando should have read it.
mats: he also reiterates a sense of usg enduring through its current debt and deficits, and i struggle to understand how he, a great builder, can believe that fiscal irresponsibility will be rewarded in the future
mircea_popescu: the host.
mircea_popescu: turkey, paris etc poisoning the cache as 1.1.1.1 ; otherwise the ip is supposed to be 198.251.90.113
mats: "The day Gorbachev said to the masses in Moscow: do not be afraid of the KGB, I took a death breath. This man is a real genius, I said... He is sitting on top of a terror machine that holds the damn pile together, and he says: do not be afraid. He must have a tremendous formula to democratize. Until I met him, and I found him completely bewildered by what was happening around him. He had jumped into the deep end of the
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 21:40 mircea_popescu can't imagine why they didn't take the right tack and "just say no to icann". shoulda used naked ip, teach their userbase to.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706669 << i'm slightly surprised this was not yet Officially banned in 'mainstream' gui wwwtrons 'for the common good of HerDemoocracy' yet
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-08-30 21:36 mircea_popescu: ACTION can't imagine why they didn't take the right tack and "just say no to icann". shoulda used naked ip, teach their userbase to.
mats: who knows, but he seems to have joined the idiot brigade since he got out
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 22:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706449 << see alfie ? see how the goal bs is the tool of the enemy and no more ? see how you shapeshift them to try and survive ? and yet you can't survive the noxious nature of "goals", try as you might.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706706 << i dun need to shift'em, they are electron probability cloud. the measurement only happens in response to the question!11
mats: its an opportunity for cantwell to really get to know the movement
a111: Logged on 2017-03-09 02:15 asciilifeform: re other 'sad people', asciilifeform's pet is fond of remarking 'if your work did >0, why you not yet been gassed'
mircea_popescu: he's in the usg asset list.
cashmoney: whatever happened to the MtGox guy
mats: just look at all of the related videos
ben_vulpes: oh cool there's a bug
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-08-30 21:36 mircea_popescu: ACTION can't imagine why they didn't take the right tack and "just say no to icann". shoulda used naked ip, teach their userbase to.
mircea_popescu: btw, did anyone actually buy gigaom after he quit or what happened ? i didn;'t follow the lulz.
cashmoney: right wing sites getting hit, something weird is even going on with The Rebel
mircea_popescu: the who now ?
cashmoney: what do u think about the Great Shuttering
BingoBoingo: <cashmoney> fuck now im probably on a list for coming in here lol << There's only one winning move now that you are on the list...
cashmoney: this is one of these fringe little rooms that nobody knows about
mircea_popescu: depends how easily entertained you are. me, i find tiny gekkos on the wall funny. i'm easy like that.
shinohai: cashmoney: Since you list `linux` as a hobby, have you tried http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html yet?
cashmoney: some of the comments are funny
mircea_popescu: too low snr to bother by now.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like wikitropes : used to be good back when a few smart people did it. then it got famous, all the wasters looking for "brand" crowded it.
ben_vulpes: "honey look total outlay on this is the integral of income fn for time under our roof, so let's have em fast and early while not making a whole lot of money"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes she has a point tho, better do them all and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, anyone saw the 45,X0 mutation ? neckless "female".
BingoBoingo: Well, the vulpes wife is demonstrated fertile, will probably keep having babies fo another decade and a half
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 19:46 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> running joke is that girl is so miserable it better be 2nd and 3rd for all the damn trouble << Congrats on your impending 5th
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706493 << you know this happens ? human females will on occasion deliver litters. 3, 4, 5, 6 i think 7 is the record.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 19:10 asciilifeform: the last generation of idiot-savants gave socialists the nuke. this one wants to give'em, what, death star.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706468 << hopefully they're not that fucking stupid. AND, unlike last time around, this time they have no fucking excuse.
mircea_popescu: codependency, pantsuit-orc as a "happy" fambly. pretty obvious from the outside, at that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706474 << same value as every other borderline finds in her "relationships". feels the void inside of you, where you know that you should've really gotten a lot further with what you had and why didn't you.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706463 << yes. manias are repetitive and thereby uninteresting.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 19:01 asciilifeform: it's just indescribably precious, 'i will move orbit of the earth', but can he produce so much as a thermostat that provably follows the claimed algo , rather than daotronic idiocy ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706459 << you don't understand, they "undid" the etherape. so it never happened. and besides there's no proof there even was a rapist. and so...
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 18:58 trinque: their real-me is world-terraforming godman don't ya know?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706458 <<< nah. just another alt. their real them is like koschei's soul, in a needle in an egg in a duck in a rabbit up their ass on an island in a sea that doesn't exist.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 18:50 asciilifeform: my ultimate goal would be satisfied -- the demolition of californitardia and all it stood for.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706449 << see alfie ? see how the goal bs is the tool of the enemy and no more ? see how you shapeshift them to try and survive ? and yet you can't survive the noxious nature of "goals", try as you might.
shinohai: http://archive.is/DvFtx "there is no more risk of loss to our customers than to the customers of a snack machine." <<< maybe coke machine, however
mircea_popescu: there may not be such a thing as the lincoln-roosevelt republic, and an end to life on earth is not sufficient cause to maintain it.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 18:49 asciilifeform: i'd rather roast to death than live under amerireich.
mircea_popescu: which is, incidentally, WHY you've nothing to show for your past decade, or the one before that.
mircea_popescu: the only reasonable move for safeguarding earth's future, is to keep you lot as far as feasible from any buttons that are connected to anything.
mircea_popescu: and this is on the purely livresque level of "hey guise, i have a great idea for a work of fiction".
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This is a wonderful time to be alive, even if the magical internet money could be ignored
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 18:46 kanzure: trinque: i think our disagreement is regarding the level of readiness or detail of a model. your requirement is one for models that are much more mature. i think it would be better if you insist on as much upfront in the future... i'll try to keep that in mind.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706438 << the problem isn't "the model". the problem is you. it's not that "the model" is "not mature", it's that you aren't qualified to be thinking about such things.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hey, i can honestly say i'm well entertained by the proceedings of us politics.
mircea_popescu: nasa isn't even there. so no, nobody gives a shit what "nasa readiness" bla bla says anymore than what tardpedia wrote on any topic.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the easiest way to be unpopular in middle America is to be a protester. By keeping alt-right from protesting the antiflags are monopolizing the being protester hate
mircea_popescu: it is also sacrilege to imagine nasa is relevant. there's no difference between random landscaper/jailbird injecting industial silicone into trannies behind a bar and the nist/ieee/etc as far as the republic is concerned : both are operating without a license and lying about it.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 18:43 kanzure: also: around these parts, is it sacrilege to speak about technologies that aren't at the far end of nasa's readiness scale? that might explain a lot.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706431 << around these parts it is sacrilege to talk about shit you don't understand as if you did.
mircea_popescu: faggots of today heard of all the fun weimar faggots had on top of nazi dicks, licking lips in antifipation.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it5's pretty much the "brown shirts fucked our ass into such delicious gaping holes, can has again plox ?"
BingoBoingo: http://www.thedailybeast.com/protesters-got-christopher-cantwell-arrested-cops-didnt-even-try << And narrative is protesters filed warrant with court on their own
mircea_popescu: lulzy democracy you got there.
mircea_popescu can't imagine why they didn't take the right tack and "just say no to icann". shoulda used naked ip, teach their userbase to.
shinohai: Kudos to the `.al` tld
BingoBoingo: From the newsmines: I was like, Wow, I own half a playground now, - City loses Park
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706414 << actually republic works the other way. if you're spending tax money you're headed for the lime pits.
asciilifeform: no, the confederate jack
BingoBoingo: The gadsen flag?
BingoBoingo: In other news, pickup truck flag index from http://qntra.net/2017/08/boston-free-speech-rally-quashed-by-pro-censorship-forces-pickup-truck-bed-flag-index-climbs/ is still climbing
mircea_popescu: yes but the claim is female humans are humans, not canides.
asciilifeform: they sat -- it worked...
asciilifeform: the sad thing is, what we're seeing is ~correctly~ working learningmachine.
mircea_popescu: they sat correctly in class, got degree. sat in office, got paid. sat on couch, got divorce settlement.
asciilifeform: 'Kafka then finally suggested Samsa look up DARPA deep brain stimulation, Neuralink, and AlphaGo, and suggested to Samsa that shit got real when Google started offering "predictions". And Google doesn't matter to Kafka or Samsa, but one day, something descended from Google and DARPA's current state will. Because Kafka and Samsa's heads are fucking supercomputers.' << winner!1!
asciilifeform: betcha it's the ants from that anthill you prodded earlier
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#comment-122814 << hilarious thread btw
mircea_popescu: iirc there';s even a n english version.
asciilifeform: theeere it is.
asciilifeform: where was that mircea_popescu story, with the sheep.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with reading.
mircea_popescu: the MOST you might be trusted with would perhaps be something like a de-pdf-ing bot, which you don't want to do because you (wrongly) imagine it's beyond your level.
mircea_popescu: so no, you won't be given any tasks of responsibility. certainly no "spending of billions" and other nonsense ion terms of "% of world gdp"
mircea_popescu: the fact that you don't know how to sort the list of problems DISQUALIFIES you from discussing the matter. and matters in general. children are to be seen not heard, is the idea, and yes you lot are mentally about 9yo.
mircea_popescu: you're a bunch of idiots with nary a clue as to how anything works ; and what's worse, utterly unaware of this. "hurr durr what if we fed people through lungs" "oh noes, the food might explode". THAT is not the top of the list of problems.
mircea_popescu: this is commonly known as the thousand eyes of flies found on meat left out to rot in the sun. ie, open source community.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 18:25 kanzure: what is the specific complaint about a star shade other than narcissism?
mircea_popescu: http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/08/the-sex-pervert-as-anti-fascist/ << randos discovering national socialism still socialism, much like soviet socialism or "progressive" socialism.
mircea_popescu: and yes there's such a thing as uv-algae.
mircea_popescu: one thing costa rica certainly is : the world capital of biodiversidad.
asciilifeform: iirc it is in the l0gz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to illustrate the "10`001" species, did i ever recount the time my toilet was clogged... by an aligator ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't live with the situation because im lazy.
asciilifeform: ( but let's say you HAD to. i'd use something like the microporated stainless steel filter in my shop vac : 1uM pores. refrigerator coil inside. water -- condenses. when time to clean -- blow compressed air though... )
mircea_popescu: for one thing, the pumps aren't going out, they'll be here no matter what. water dun climb 1k feet out of fellowship.
mircea_popescu: did anyone desing for this ? who, the water lizzards ?
mircea_popescu: oh and as a bonus : obviously the more complicated to be replaced is also the one that should be : the litteler pump in the heating system.
asciilifeform: see also the proverbial bus with 4 steering wheels.
mircea_popescu: but in practice... you end up with two of these on partial circuits, and now i need a fluid flow phd to take a shower.
mircea_popescu: this is the best example of unintentional bad complexity ever.
mircea_popescu: and the shower has a pair of buttons : if you increase the hot water debit, this drops pressure for the hot pump, which kicks in, dropping pressure for the main pump, which kicks in. and vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: now, the main pump is obviously pressure graded : if pressure drops it kicks into higher gear. the heating system has its own pump. which, of course, ALSO presure graded.
mircea_popescu: so, i don't have a reservoir here. i could build one, but i don't want to, because it'd be too small (there's a minimum size of reservoir, because the algae ie "taste" is a function of surface approx, whereas volume obv matter of volume ; if your tank is not big enough it'll be flavoured.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706380 << speaking of this, wouldja like to hear the hydrological adventures of costa rica ?
BingoBoingo: Also the irony that the only "strong employee unions" represent "public" employees against the public
mircea_popescu: and why the fuck not.
mircea_popescu: shocking how simple measures never occur, "coincidentally". really, it .. wouldn't be practical to mandate anyone on the public budget stop using fossils ? awww.
asciilifeform would like to see the paypalmoolah-funded friscoites mulched first, prior to any postman
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706370 << this is actually quite on point. i've never seen any of these government-funded "ngos" propose all public employees walk or lose their job.
BingoBoingo: They already carry those
mircea_popescu: way the fuck cheaper.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how about just stocking one fucking whip, and beating the stupid daughter to the point she cant fucking speak next she comes up with "But i LOVE HIM!!! daddy" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706369 << how about focusing on your own fucking problems! clean up that pizza wrapper! cook for fucking once. go out and walk that misfortunate dog of yours. instead of pretending to "solve" the problems of distant others for the transparent reason that you can avoid having to confront not having done ANYTHING in a whole decade this way.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 17:52 trinque: kanzure: fucking hell, a star shade. the narcissism out of folks like you will flow over any wall but extinction, wont it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706357 << -- >> http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/ pretty much exactly.
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> re: "right to farm", sunshade can be tiny, can be big, can be over ocean or whatever, all sorts of magic. << Per tradition and actual law anything that interferes with farming be it a coyote, hippy vandal, or orbital umbrella is subject to correction by the farmer.
mircea_popescu: it's unclear whether this means very ass or three asses, but in any case, let no one ever call me an asshole. i'm evidently a triasshole.
mircea_popescu: in other news, locally sourced undershirts of my most serene majesty are very fine cotton, but also Tres Asses brand.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 17:21 asciilifeform: also ate a month+ of heathenlogz but eventually maxed dosimeter.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706339 << i ran some structurizers on it. because apparently these people lived for a decade never discoveredf they want a search button ;/
mircea_popescu: hey, did i mention the artificial technology future implants ?
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> no that doesn't work so well; private space ventures would then also be world government instruments. << If private space company aggresses my tomatoes with sunshade, that is a tort and an aggression. Traditionally remedy for unwanted shading is chainsaw
asciilifeform: or rather -- 'will work Any Day Now'
asciilifeform: gave up capes, but came to genuinely believe that the magic spells, work
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's really in the vein of "artificial implants and future intelligence will bla bla" sorta argument. one step removed from d&d.
mircea_popescu: actually putting it in would certainly be a violation of the nonmilitarization of space convention.
asciilifeform: didja ask , say, mircea_popescu , whether he would like his day shortened ?
mircea_popescu: kanzure it's empty wankery of the sort a certain kind of us-born, esl drone (aka, castrato) engages in.
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, who the fuck has a horse in this race.
mircea_popescu: "oh, the blue usg has come up with some orc that'll do their dirty work of trying to steal publicly funded research from the rest of the usg"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's a pretty good weapon, as far as these go. ( it it existed... )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 15:53 asciilifeform: 13:08 < kanzure> she wants to control the access in her own way
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> running joke is that girl is so miserable it better be 2nd and 3rd for all the damn trouble << Congrats on your impending 5th
asciilifeform: ( and yes, it's still grantolade if the fed prints it and gives it to elon musk et al to keep warm up his arse for a while and only then he gives it to you . )
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> hubris of ameliorating "global warming" is pretty cute, right up there with terraforming mars. << Eh, the right weeds would prolly do most of the terraforming themselves. Probably won't make much more habitable, but still more earthlike
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and hey, ultimate ( at least theoretically ) 'star shield', neh
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nuclear ablation for countries full of uppity californirasts, fortunately, just as practical. << Time the explosions, maybe get a couple micrometers further from sun for bonus cooling
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> whatever happened to telegram or w/e it was the one they did buy ? << Whatsapp, still bringing SMS to pinoys everywhere
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> totally. what the fuck is kik anyway, the irrelevant nonservice that facebook didn't buy for a trillion ? << Porno messenger promoted through craigslist spam
asciilifeform: we are looking at attempted bamboozlement, rather than true domination.
asciilifeform: kanzure et al walk up and say, in essence, 'i own you, meat.' 'your home is my plaything' 'your labour is for me to dispose of'. thing is, if it were true, he would not have to say anything -- just as farmer does not have to say it to the cow
asciilifeform: trinque's point re narcissism was spot on. these people see non-californirasts, who don't subscribe to the collective 'we musts', as NPCs.
asciilifeform: the last generation of idiot-savants gave socialists the nuke. this one wants to give'em, what, death star.
asciilifeform: but because they drop snr and make a mockery of thinking itself.
asciilifeform: not because 'they will mutilate the earth' -- that threat will be credible some time after they can make an os that actually works
asciilifeform: those who proclaim intent to steal the requisite resources, by politicking -- i call the enemy.
asciilifeform: people who lean to megalomania that they haven't the resources to make flesh -- i find merely boring
asciilifeform: but of the megalomania implicit in taking a serious interest in planeteering, per se
kanzure: have i claimed that i am going to move the earth? what?
asciilifeform: it's just indescribably precious, 'i will move orbit of the earth', but can he produce so much as a thermostat that provably follows the claimed algo , rather than daotronic idiocy ?
trinque: their real-me is world-terraforming godman don't ya know?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 15:24 mircea_popescu: and if experience with the empire of "i just want to" lazy idiots is any guide, they're DEFINITELY not going to "get in trouble for buying microsoft". because "nobody could have predicted" and "they were just doing their job" which "hey man, it's just a gig, it's not my life!"
asciilifeform: your solar redirector, kanzure , what will the targeting comp run on ? same micropython as your electroporator ?? on what iron ? nsa-intel ?
asciilifeform: and people who cannot master the fully deterministic fucking von neumann machine, talk about usefully diddling genome
ben_vulpes: and hey, a mere three degree increase could kill enough folks to bring the population back to a reasonable level.
asciilifeform: my ultimate goal would be satisfied -- the demolition of californitardia and all it stood for.
asciilifeform: i'd rather roast to death than live under amerireich.
kanzure: asciilifeform: regarding your preference for warmer climates, is there a limit?
kanzure: no that doesn't work so well; private space ventures would then also be world government instruments.
kanzure: ben_vulpes: well, low-cost non-shading approaches might be <$1B but i have given those less thought. you can deploy nukes for less than $1B (like to change orbit parameters) but that also causes other problems that would be viewed as more extreme than climate change.
kanzure: trinque: i think our disagreement is regarding the level of readiness or detail of a model. your requirement is one for models that are much more mature. i think it would be better if you insist on as much upfront in the future... i'll try to keep that in mind.
asciilifeform: how about nasa is a subsidy for lockheed, and oughta go away with the rest of the idiot reich ?
trinque: if you can't communicate a specific model, why are you talking, other than to cast your upvote for whatever futurememe gives you a semi?
kanzure: also: around these parts, is it sacrilege to speak about technologies that aren't at the far end of nasa's readiness scale? that might explain a lot.
trinque: you people are so awash with marketing bastards out there you speak it natively.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 18:28 kanzure: the sun shade does not necessarily need to be used between the sun and earth. there are many potential uses for sunshades, some that even provide experimental data without loss of life ~necessarily.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706397 << meanwhile this tactic hopes the reader assumes the best, while the writer avoided making a hard statement.
kanzure: so, for example, there seems to be an assumption that a star shade would *have* to shade asciilifeform. why?
trinque: and I've dealt with enough valleytards to be familiar with the crabwalk you do in arguments.
kanzure: i haven't absorbed the implication of logged channels?
trinque: channel's logged bub, and you still haven't absorbed the implications of that.
kanzure: so why would deploying a star shade and testing it-- perhaps not even on the earth-- preclude understanding what you're doing?
kanzure: i've lost the flow of this conversation.
trinque: "there's no time to understand what we're doing; lives are at stake!"
asciilifeform: this includes the taxation with which kanzure et al intend to further their megalomania.
asciilifeform: i deny this 'we' the californirasts operate with.
kanzure: why would you bring the poor into this
ben_vulpes: more of the classic progressive "we'll fix the world for the poor brown people, because they can't want it for themselves"
trinque: it was brought up in the context of "climate change". don't slime sideways now.
kanzure: the sun shade does not necessarily need to be used between the sun and earth. there are many potential uses for sunshades, some that even provide experimental data without loss of life ~necessarily.
ben_vulpes: running joke is that girl is so miserable it better be 2nd and 3rd for all the damn trouble
trinque: if that old cunt knows exactly how much money to print "to grow the economy" why wouldn't some other old cunt know exactly how much solar shield to build