asciilifeform: if choose 'confirm' then eats all changes req'd to get to 'identical' .
asciilifeform: was thinking re how oughta do auto-syncs. one possible method, is for bot to take command via pm, e.g. !q sync 1000 http://logs.ossasepia.com ; would then walk last N (here, 1000) ln, and offer 'identical', 'diverges prior', or 'diverges at I', I is index, and offer alignment, operator (set in config who) can then confirm or reject
asciilifeform: ( granted this only worx if there's no conflicting tail, i.e. you get to the console just in time. failing that, (presently) gotta drop the conflicting tail in db before snarfing )
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:05:45 mircea_popescu: it'll benefit the nooblets immensely if they seriously spend some time groking the "turn" thing. there's a time for everything ; and for most things that time isn't NOW.
asciilifeform: picture is consistent with 'monkey unplugged then went to smoke', i.e. 100% packet loss for ~4m.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yours was specific to dulap ( where phuctor db was being walked just as mircea_popescu happened to load ) , recall that other boxen were unaffected
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:39:18 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, an' considering we're apparently stuck with a buncha chrises over here : any of your resident knights capable of registering a chan on ~any other network~ and writing the bridge code on top of extant bot already ?
diana_coman: on the other hand, since he's been apparently slaving away in web-shitstack & python for ages, he'll have a stab at the multi network bridging thing; we'll see if he cuts or breaks his teeth on it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i read it, he starts with rhetorical 'but how could be political' then proceeds to show entirely edible concrete example
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:12:25 mircea_popescu: could use more reading. eg : "How can, for example a compiler be in any way even remotely political?" >> http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/ specifically discusses it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:27:04 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937909 - that's precisely the sort of tasks he got because yes, needs to do more reading and to do *better* reading; by the looks of it the US doesn't teach people how to read, somehow, it's rather unbelievable.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:07:50 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937913 << btw these need the 'htt...' for the parser to fire
asciilifeform: fwiw it's possible that the 'hm, i'ma unplug, then go smoke, and then plug in' took place upstream of piz.
asciilifeform: the likely thing is that someone somewhere physically moved a plug.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When was the event in question?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to make inquiry at piz house , see if they have an answer re dafuq , e.g. 'today we vacuumed the switch'
asciilifeform: mine appears to be 100% current ( haven't seen re lobbes's yet ) , diana_coman invited to pipe from there.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc you had a student write a db differ ? is this posted ? could then find why yours is missing 1ln
diana_coman: looking in my local log, there was no talk in #o between snsabot out/in
asciilifeform: dulap unreachable for 1st time since year+ ago when bb elbowed the mains cord
asciilifeform: snsabot dun appear to have missed any lines in #o during the mystery-outage
diana_coman: ugh; is that the first out of sync line?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty strange, seems that they fell outta sync ~before~ this outage ?!
diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw I was keeping a bit mum precisely to give you time to sync bot when I saw it went down first; then ofc everyone @piz went down
asciilifeform: no one spoke on other chans , and i turned the crank in time. but we're gonna want to automate these.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: did the bot get out of sync now ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:12:25 mircea_popescu: could use more reading. eg : "How can, for example a compiler be in any way even remotely political?" >> http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/ specifically discusses it.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937909 - that's precisely the sort of tasks he got because yes, needs to do more reading and to do *better* reading; by the looks of it the US doesn't teach people how to read, somehow, it's rather unbelievable.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if anyone can think of a cleaner way to parse the 2 types of link ( [][] and naked htt.. ) than what's given in asciilifeform's reader.py , i'd like to hear about it. ( presently there's a quite ugly 2-step transform, as apparently it is impossible to regexp-transmute a grammar w/ 2+ patterns in 1 step )
asciilifeform: could, naturally, force ~any~ text found in the 1st clause of a [][] pair to linkify, but will give yet entirely diff flavour of brokenness in other cases
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 14:59:46 mircea_popescu: so yes, there's ~IMPLICIT~ policy in [trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/][intellectual stance] : if you're smart, you're here ; if you're not here, you're ~THEREFORE~ dumb. and so following.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937913 << btw these need the 'htt...' for the parser to fire
asciilifeform: aking the proposition of free trade futile. Whether or not Drepper is aware of the political implications of the of his technical decision is irrelevant to the fact of their existance. Nevertheless, there is a belief by technologists “educated” at ITT and the public equivilants that software can exist outside of politics. As a result the US has a legal system that runs on Word, a financial system that runs on Excel, and a voting
asciilifeform: for the l0gz: 'Years ago, a “technical” decision was made by a core gcc developer named Drepper to break static linking. This means that no useful binaries can ever execute on Linux without dynamically linking to certain libraries making the proposition of distributing signed binaries futile, making the proposition of secure software futile, making the proposition of Bitcoin futile, making the proposition of sound money futile, m
mircea_popescu: anyways ; the name sounds familiar
mircea_popescu: so yes, there's ~IMPLICIT~ policy in [trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/][intellectual stance] : if you're smart, you're here ; if you're not here, you're ~THEREFORE~ dumb. and so following.
mircea_popescu: moreover, functional technology (as epitomized by Bitcoin) is definitionally, necessarily and unavoidably anti-socialist. so much so that reliably one can use the reverse heuristic : if something doesn't shit on the needy, doesn't it make it harder for the stupid and more expensive for the poor, that something is most likely shit, not technology
mircea_popescu: could use more reading. eg : "How can, for example a compiler be in any way even remotely political?" >> http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/ specifically discusses it.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in castles, 1 of diana_coman's students has some imho some notbad pieces on his www.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:39 mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely interesting orc couple. he (adrian), minor philosophist wanna-be, writing twice a decade minuscule nothings ("what is not existence", 1994). she, mirela, doing ~exactly~ nothing. both born in the periphery, mid 50s, exactly another inginer-profesoara couple like so very many at the time.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937867 >> 'Director, National Socrates Agency, Romania; 1995 – 1997' << lol, yet another 'nsa' i had nfi about!111
asciilifeform: with the modest ram, not a rk competitor, but potentially useful for other applications ( has 3 serial ports, so can eat FG ) ; runs 'pogo'-style linux, so can stuff even classic gpg in ; can have nic plug attached, so potentially even host small net proggies ; pulls coupla milliwatt, so could work in radio relays or similar.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the smallpox is necessary ; the orcs left undisturbed turn into fucking scotts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these new 'spies' aint tryin to bring back seekritz, but instead simply spread rot, a sort of bipedal smallpox blanket. seems to work
mircea_popescu: much like matter-antimatter reaction's the most intense energy debit known to nature, "representative democracy" is the most intense garbage debit possible in society.
mircea_popescu: what they produce is garbage -- and on a "fair terms" comparison, i truly do not believe anyone can outdo socialism's per-capita, per-unit time, per-unit consumed or per-anything else garbage production.
mircea_popescu: the cult of superficial convenience is incapable of producing good spies much like it's incapable of producing artistic capodopera , or industry masterpieces.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:58 mircea_popescu: and so ongoing -- in case you were wondering why bologna is such lulz, or why feminism is such a nothing, or so forth. all a concoction of convenience ; we enslaved all their good spies back in 1992, and well... all that's left is all that's left, a different flavour of institutionalized womanhood /
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937874 << seems like the termites they sent, work approx as well as spies ever did
mircea_popescu: apparently there's need for a not-negative, nonzero number. 1 has been coopted.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937828 << outta curiosity, why not let the +1 people speak if they wake up ? ( or is idea that returns from grave oughta go straight to castles )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 06:27:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yup, was the cap.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937738 << i admit, not yet seen one since '90s where it wasn't the cap
mircea_popescu: and so ongoing -- in case you were wondering why bologna is such lulz, or why feminism is such a nothing, or so forth. all a concoction of convenience ; we enslaved all their good spies back in 1992, and well... all that's left is all that's left, a different flavour of institutionalized womanhood /
mircea_popescu: ulbright recipient and was resident in the Department of Political Science at Indiana University in 20032004. "
mircea_popescu: She founded the country's first gender studies Master's program in 1998, and helped to organize one of its earliest independent women's nongovernmental organizations: AnA The Romanian Society for Feminist Analyses. She is an expert advisor to both UNESCO and the European Union, and has won international fellowships at Cornell University, Oxford University and the Central European University in Budapest. She was also a F
mircea_popescu: la in accordance to the Bologna Programme, being a member of the evaluation commission in 1997.
mircea_popescu: e of Political Science in Romania at Faculty of Political Science, National School of Political Studies and Public Administration, Bucharest. She added in the university curricula courses like feminist philosophy at the University of Bucharest, Faculty of Philosophy. In 2001, she had coordinated and the first collection of Gender Studies, Polirom Publishing. Moreover, her involvement developed the Political Science Curricu
mircea_popescu: then... she reappears. in 1998 he's annointed secretary of state, out of strictly nowhere ; she gets the political science deanship at the bucharest university, also out of nowhere. and from there, beautiful http://trilema.com/2017/in-case-you-were-wondering-where-all-the-worthless-nuland-drones-ended-up/ careers in the delightful wooden tongue of the new socialism : "In 2000, she instituted the first postdoctoral programm
mircea_popescu: except, of course, he's briefly director of the us influence publishing house, in 1990. then he disappears, with the purging of usgistanis in 1991.
mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely interesting orc couple. he (adrian), minor philosophist wanna-be, writing twice a decade minuscule nothings ("what is not existence", 1994). she, mirela, doing ~exactly~ nothing. both born in the periphery, mid 50s, exactly another inginer-profesoara couple like so very many at the time.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in wikilulz, "She had permanently got actively involved in the society through institutional, civic and mediatic journals regarding philosophy, political science and the process of democratization in Romania."
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, that's it exactly, im also running a slutteria here among other things
diana_coman: I was just going/checking through the list and it seems everyone on the list got their 9 rating
mircea_popescu: okies, did i fuck anything up ? since i'm right here at the instruments and can readily fix it.
mircea_popescu: !!rate bvt 9 his lordship the lord verschlimmbessert
mircea_popescu: i suspect the issue was, didn't update his rating then because traveling or w/e, and look the havok it wrought downstream.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/ << he certainly is. nfi, what happened was i went by my ratings ; but his wasn't updated since february.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the only workable solution here is indeed to admit http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937525 was actually ill-considered. yes 9 specifically might mean lordship, but that's not === selfvoice.
diana_coman: lol! that is probably among the easiest thing to prophesize, esp in land of shepherds
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform scores on his choice of epithet. amir-al-bahr used to be "commander of the fleet", but the dwellers in the lower part of the kingdom of two sicilies (a byzantine remnant) thought it's rather something else.
diana_coman: so yes, nothing the rater can/wishes to say of the current "person"; still, they can/wish to say something of the past-identity if one asks
diana_coman: hm; rather: 0 = there is history of interaction but there is nothing to say of the person currently (dead @ the morgue, precisely); onth no rating means no history whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: the converse is folly, "oh, girl doesn't show her cunt". of course she does. just, maybe not to you.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this is that people wish to say different things in different contexts.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 07:01:56 mircea_popescu: of course, this could readily also bear the alternative interepretation of "there is nothing the rater WISHES TO SAY".
mircea_popescu: nah was gonna do them next.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: is there some eta/requirement on/for the castle-licensing thing? on my part I'm fine with it as stated.
mircea_popescu: ah, that wasn't even all that painful in the end.
mircea_popescu: !!rate spyked 9 his lordship the lord crypto-alchemist
mircea_popescu: it'll benefit the nooblets immensely if they seriously spend some time groking the "turn" thing. there's a time for everything ; and for most things that time isn't NOW.
mircea_popescu: there lolz, now you don't have to regret etcetera keks
mircea_popescu: !!rate ave1 9 his lordship the lord logiciel
mircea_popescu: of course, this could readily also bear the alternative interepretation of "there is nothing the rater WISHES TO SAY".
mircea_popescu: it's philosophically fraught, because as per the spec a rating of 0 should convey that the rater deems he can answer NO questions about the ratee. in which case... why is it a rating.
mircea_popescu: this is so ; but for the sake of sanity im not gonna spec significant changes in the middle of implementing a differen tspec.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: yes, but not sure I see the point of "unset"; it's 0
mircea_popescu: i suppose, retrospectively, this is implementation of folly, there's no possible usecase for ACTUALLY ever unsetting a rating.
diana_coman: isn't that the natural morgue?
diana_coman: hm; why does 0 disappear from the lists though?
mircea_popescu: "mp, you can't negrate him, we can't sell to him if you do" "fuck. i don't wanna 0 it either, it'll disappear from the lists" "well..." "fuuuuck"
mircea_popescu: i suppose another side effect of all this is that it turns 1 ratings into a sorta morgue.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:37:26 trinque: bv wishes not to be raised, and I shan't press the issue further.
mircea_popescu: !!rate ben_vulpes 1 used to be the Lord of the Well, but meanwhile http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934268
mircea_popescu: !!rate BingoBoingo 9 his lordship the lord goebbels.
mircea_popescu: !!rate mod6 9 his lordship the lord high steward.
mircea_popescu: hey, who knew, my little gimmick with the titles years ago makes this way the fuck easier now. win.
mircea_popescu: !!rate hanbot 9 her ladyship the lady falconeer.
mircea_popescu: !!rate diana_coman 9 her ladyship the marquess eulora.
mircea_popescu: !!rate asciilifeform 9 his lordship the lord admiral
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yup, was the cap.
mircea_popescu: billymg, did you ever find the trilema article re how to re-do your missed pingbacks ?
billymg: mircea_popescu: i could be completely missing the point though, i'm still not very familiar with pingbacks outside of the small bit i've read since you mentioned it
billymg: or, i guess i mean, could a migration script of sorts that's run once manually accomplish the same goal?
mircea_popescu: every time a new article is posted, there's some subroutine that goes through all the links and sends the pingbacks. the idea is to hijack that so it re-does the entire db
mircea_popescu: billymg, the removal part is easy, just delete * from comments where trackback
billymg: keeping the select mechanism in mind*
billymg: or is the idea to rip out all unused pieces in xmlrpc (blogger, metaweblog, movabletype, etc...) and rewrite the pingback support keeping the select mechanism rather than layering it in after the fact?
billymg: http://billymg.com/2019/09/additional-tests-for-mp-wp-now-according-to-spec/comment-page-1/#comment-49 << mircea_popescu: i now see what you mean about the pingbacks supporting the extra selection parameters but i'm still not sure what is meant by "trashing the whole trilema trackback pile as extant, and having them re-done in the new manner"
BingoBoingo: Well, the gasoline's potential danger incentives submission on the part of the doused. The knife point's potential danger has contexts where it could promote resistance.
BingoBoingo: ^ In Airstrip One continuing to dehumanize to maximize the number of human lives
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: normally i get ~0 comments for weeks on end on my www; then in 1 day half dozen, and remembered 'could actually keep track if had recent-comments...'
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/my-cacke-dough-is-bustin-at-the-trims/ << Trilema -- My cacke dough is bustin' at the trims.
spyked: asciilifeform, ty! bot's back on the line
mircea_popescu: well, the brits being a laughingstock surprises nobody.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same as the brits did, neh. no one picked up an' walked way with india
mircea_popescu: just like all the other idiots ever, starting with every 4 year old. no, the chair isn't alive and didn't willingly trip you up.
mircea_popescu: they did it by themselves, for themselves, ~through being themselves~. JUST LIKE the other idiots.
mircea_popescu: except THESE idiots have no "greater enemy" to "blame" for it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, qntra piece brings a great point to the fore, incidentally : the usg managed to implode its colonial posessions / colonial "influence sphere" in the new world JUST EXACTLY like the soviets managed three decades prior.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll be pushing out the overview of the real estate situation on the ground here Thursday.
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'recent comments' box added to asciilifeform's www. ( phplogy exercise; but generally gaping hole, imho; nao filled. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-01-15 12:35:38 asciilifeform: you represent the inputs ( any # of'em ) via stochasticizers, i.e. each 1 gets a comparator that eats N bits of rng and outputs a 1 if they represent integer <= the currently latched binary number, 0 otherwise.
asciilifeform: ( if fuel is not a concern, fly all 10 and xor'em!1111 -- in all seriousness, rng is perhaps the easiest part known to man where to implement redundancy )
asciilifeform: atm if you want a FG for use in mars probe -- gotta do it sovok-style, take 10 and test in the desired conditions , pick the champ.
asciilifeform: ( primary headache with higher grades of part , is ~availability~, rather than cost per se (tends to be +10/+20%) -- if yer baking a small (less than 10,000) run, need 'cut-tape' purchase, which usually only exists in 'commercial' grade )
asciilifeform: there are fine gradations inside the 'classes' also (chiefly degradation curves vs temp, e.g. in vreg , de-rated in re max tolerable voltage spike, or hrs of expected life, or both, at high temp ) , it's a quite gnarly biz
asciilifeform: the 'clock speed race' tempted vendors into cutting corners (i.e. 'new cpu 2x as hot but we'll use same room-temp-rated parts around it because Who Will Notice!11' )
asciilifeform: indeed; tho most of these feature konsoomer comps
mircea_popescu: plenty of horror stories from the early 90s, kinda similar to ye olde early-Ttank stories.
mircea_popescu: then again, this i bought a) recently and b) here
asciilifeform sees these 1-2x/yr
asciilifeform: in other noose, ECC event on dulap. 'Corrected error, no action required.'
asciilifeform: fwiw the 1 asciilifeform is sitting on just nao, is going on 14 yrs ( albeit recapped in '17 ) of 24/7 run
mod6: mircea_popescu: oh no! sorry to hear about the mobo. not an emergency at all. in a rush atm, will re-send later, no worries. :]
mircea_popescu: anyway, will replace the system during this week ; if it's an emergency/not that important re-encrypt to mp_en_viaje ; if not i'll see then.
mircea_popescu: mod6, the machine hosting that keyset magically died earlier -- just as i was about to read your thing, imagine that. seems the mobo went, though tbh it's a little weird, will have it cut up later.
bvt: hi. for me, the meatworld events mentioned in http://bvt-trace.net/2019/08/fg-fed-linux-rng-work-schedule/ are over, i am continuing active fg-kernel work
lobbes: anyways, I'm off to write up workplan for week 3, and then bed
lobbes: incidentally, mircea_popescu with your permission I would like to bring the bot into #trilema during the next week for further testing (it wouldn't need voice; just needs to quietly sit in background). I'd like to see how it handles a heavier log-load
lobbes: I'm going to leave demo bot running in my monkey castle for the night, so folx are more than welcome to come and test it / try to break it.
lobbes: also, the code is currently designed for a single chan atm (which would be #trilema, of course). However, would you want multi-chan capability as part of the delivered final product?
lobbes: mircea_popescu: pls to let me know if you'd like the formatting tweaked. Both in terms of the textual output of log lines as well as the url format, and title format.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-22 16:37:18 lobbes: With that out of the way it has been going smoothly, and I'm mainly making up for lost time now. It would seem I'm on track to hit my deadline though. I will probably have some demo output for mircea_popescu to look at by the end of the day
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937579 << okay, I've got a basic live demo running over in #trilema-lobbes. Here is the sample output: http://blog.ericbenevides.com/2019/09/trilema-lobbes-log-for-2019-09-23/
billymg: anyway, ima swing by diana_coman's castle since there seems to be a cr convoy thread building over there
billymg: in casual conversations with my boss it seemed like remote work might be an option, and although i don't think of that as a long term goal it could be useful in fueling the initial settling
snsabot: Logged on 2019-06-26 14:48:55 billymg: so i'm planning to give my two weeks notice next week so i can focus on actual work. i'm also going to be looking for property on the other side of the wire
snsabot: Logged on 2019-06-08 17:23:02 billymg: in my current situation, there is not enough leftover energy for the tasks i'd like to be doing. this could be helped by transferring to a less demanding galley but my current thinking is to do my time, save resources, and then make it a clean break
billymg: and as a small update on my plan -- i'm in the process of securing a place in CR but got cold feet re: turning off the fiat spigot
BingoBoingo: LOL, of course he wasn't. What would the MULAS think!
mircea_popescu: but at least he wasn't parading the niggers on a leash downtown, amirite ?
BingoBoingo: They can't
mircea_popescu: o brother
BingoBoingo: Anyways, derp's probably vulnerable to harrassment charges under Art 208 of the Romanian criminal code despite his obession with waving aroun Article 375 about "Infracțiuni contra ordinii și liniștii publice"
BingoBoingo: Hard to tell if he's threatening to bother the police or something else: "Stefan Iulian Cojocnean Corect, Demian Daniela Anca . A reușit: https://adevarul.ro/.../video-femei-lesa.../index.html
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937556 << The derp's flaffing suggests he's one of the formerly redpill/PUA types doing the now common loser turned Neo-Puritain moral crusader thing. For some reason he's fixated on mircea_popescu as a Jew of some sort.
BingoBoingo: The videoderp though is SO OUTRAGED!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 13:03:01 mircea_popescu: hasn't actually read any of the links (nor do i intend to), so in theory this may be entirely baseless hatemongering on very comme il faut goodfolk who totally see the length of their nose.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937567 << From one of the comment threads: "That's the real man ... PimP PimP hooray."
asciilifeform: interesting , possibly, detail, the performers weren't entirely 'apolitical', tended to make light of the clergy/nobility , so nailed somewhat like mircea_popescu's moscopol & co.
mircea_popescu: twas a moment of renascentist reaction in the periphery
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 1600s ru, the church had an episode of rampaging stupid, and ended with ban on not only performing gypos but , for a time, all musical instruments. the bear specialists converted to straight brigandry, adding to already formidable head count of thieves/brigands.
mircea_popescu: i expect these were mostly the eastern gypsies. much like the jews, gypsies come in a spectrum, the southern arab-owned oens were mostly metalworkers, the northern rus' owned ones were mostly bear / acrobatics / horse riding / circus and such ; the middle set mostly thieves and whores.
mircea_popescu: i can barely remember 2 in 3 of the modern, english ones.
asciilifeform re bear -- could've sworn mircea_popescu once wrote a piece re 'ursar' , the old caste of bear handler folx. but can't seem to find.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no, see, it's a matroska doll of travel, vacations within vacations with vacation subcompartments of their own!
mircea_popescu: but that's where the bear was.
mircea_popescu: also attempted a sibiu/brasov etc, but it failed over brasov, romania's 2nd largest and most importantest town, actually being an utter rural shithole, far below say highland, indiana.
asciilifeform: a. i saw 'I'm back from two-and-a-something months abroad' and thought ' mircea_popescu & co didn't stay for the autumn rains ' etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2019/09/easterly-travelogue/
lobbes: asciilifeform: ah but there will be search, though it will consist of a entire blog-wide search (and, since the logs will be posts, they will also be included)
lobbes: diana_coman: it was productive, at least. Learned things, sharpened skills. Know the logotron code more intimately as well as the mp-wp mysql "guts"
asciilifeform: lobbes: but if you want the thing to be searchable -- will need, eventually, indices.
lobbes: asciilifeform: well, mircea_popescu's spec all of the lines are to appear on mp-wp articles (hence, the database piece is the backend for mp-wp, which is mysql)
asciilifeform: oh hey lobbes -- ported to mysql ? do the indices work ?
lobbes: With that out of the way it has been going smoothly, and I'm mainly making up for lost time now. It would seem I'm on track to hit my deadline though. I will probably have some demo output for mircea_popescu to look at by the end of the day
lobbes: I wasted a good chunk of time wrestling with proper escaping of quotes and the like, which I eventually achieved. Turns out that the "MySQLdb" python lib I was using was shit; had to switch to "mysql.connector" which allows for proper prepared sql statements.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 23:38:50 lobbes: has been glued to console most of the day; almost has the first chunk of mp-wp-bot functioning (inserting log lines to blog post piece)
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937523 << not sure if hairier due to my own inexperience, or because naturally hairy, but yes there is hair.
diana_coman: in fairness, there were - according to the newspaper-bit itself - quite a few people that pointed the obvious ie 3 people being totally fine so wtf's the problem with it??
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: well, it's the use not the items, the usual "omg, not used according to my expectations therefore bad, abominable, can't exist etc"
mircea_popescu: yet all the items involved were standard issue. dog leashes bought in the fucking mall (and guess what, i tried them on there ALSO, week ago). women produced through the usual process some years ago.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: eh, on some topics some people always "have no idea"; in the best interpretation possible, because it's so alien from everything else they have.
mircea_popescu hasn't actually read any of the links (nor do i intend to), so in theory this may be entirely baseless hatemongering on very comme il faut goodfolk who totally see the length of their nose.
mircea_popescu: sums up the place like nothingelse.
mircea_popescu: i would propose that the true and proper as well as only possible epitaph for romania is exactly this "shithole had exactly one billionaire, and no fucking idea who he was".
mircea_popescu: and, of course, "i wonder who this is", because TEN YEARS have fucking passed in vain. back in 2009 BOTH mircea badeas were like "hurr durr, who is mircea popeescu", meanwhikle a decade passed, nobody STILL ever fucking heard of either copy of them.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: eh, he made it to the newspaper, ok?
mircea_popescu: he's gonna get very far in life pretending to equality with his betters ; as the facts perceptible well confirm. /sarcasm
mircea_popescu: apparently saying "last night i met some really cool people, they fucking blew me out of the water THUS AND FOLLOWING" is forbidden by god or some such.
mircea_popescu: took like three orbitings to process, and the fucktard STILL didn't put it in, i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: "this is me sitting and you talking to people you don't know. leave it at that." was the ~actual~ answer.
mircea_popescu: it's like if evanston, wyoming thought itself the center of intergalactic trade.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, timisoara dorks, they're very self important. can you imagine this glorified rural shithole actually imagines itself "the european culture capital 2019" ?
mircea_popescu: there is that.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:15:14 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937511 << there's a space there, in between "ima drag this to sea" and "i intend to ~commercialize~ this".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:40:53 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty great, i'm almost surprised there aren't (or are there...) moar of these
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-fewer-tvs-or-a-billion-of-them-adnotated/#comment-131493 << meanwhile in other lulz
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with threats; there's the world wrong with not having a point.
mircea_popescu: ld and ima do all i can to help". yet i still threaten them.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937512 << it's also not specifically verbotten to threaten the republic. god knows i threaten my own slavegirls, dedicated as you couldn't believe and truly and honestly with nothing else in their hearth but my... well, not my aggrandization per se nor my loving extension... i'd say just that earnest & motherly "i wish this man to get perecisely as great as he possibly cou
mircea_popescu: but i had been growing hostile ~on the quiet~, mostly because afore today there were no good ways to explain the problem. but now it's here, and i daresay it's as fucking limpid as sunlight, so there we go, mazel tov
mircea_popescu: but to sum it up clearly and concisely : you're not required to try and commercialize everything you come up with, feel free to publish whatever it is you want ; and you're not required to try and publish everything you come up with either, feel free to try and commercialize. but pick EXACTLY ONE. don't try ye olde pantsuit magic, it neve
mircea_popescu: in fact, it's not less stupid for being what the morons are preaching BUT MORESO!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 04:21:57 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937480 << this is exactly right. fucktarded protestants, protested the papacy for being too inept and corrupt ; built themselves a derpier, more inept papacy in its place.
mircea_popescu: it's stupid is what it is ; and not for any reason to do with the outside, but purely from a disheveling of the inside of the mind capable of such double-splits-with-double-disavowal.
mircea_popescu: and yes, i had been (and for years, at that) slowly growing hostile to people doing both ends of that, ie, on one hand "i'm not publishing this, i intend to earn a living off it" and then turn around and "i ain't about to advertise this, who the fuck gives a shit, i'm not putting my precious lfie behind it, wut!!!"
mircea_popescu: so yes, i expect a VERY steady stream of "oh, http://trilema.com/2014/the-twinheaded-announcer-announces/#footnote_0_55947[][i tried] this, here's how it worked" for ALL items in that situation.
mircea_popescu: but the latter comes with VERY FIRM OBLIGATIONS -- one has to DO MARKETING FOR THE ITEM. someone who on one hand doesn't relase code of item we use, therefore ~DECLARING~, just as good as if he had deeded, that he intends to commercialize item, and then failing to do any work towards that, is in fact quite dishonorable.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 23:59:56 trinque: in that vein, it occurs to me that this holding back of items such as ^ is dishonorable in that it's effectively a signal that one intends to drag whichever items with him into the grave/bottle/sea
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937511 << there's a space there, in between "ima drag this to sea" and "i intend to ~commercialize~ this".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 23:38:50 lobbes: has been glued to console most of the day; almost has the first chunk of mp-wp-bot functioning (inserting log lines to blog post piece)
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea why the ycall it "postmodernism", it's nothing like modernism, and definitely no kind of post. it's simply the time of mediocrity : mediocre people succumbing to mediocre wounds of the spirit ; legions of apprentice wizards trying their master grimoire and causing no remarkable, explosive, catastrophic outbursts. merely [https://i.pinimg.com/736x/76/df/64/76df643b4566f10bad849bb927cbd2c4.jpg][dying q
mircea_popescu: self-evidently the greatest folly of our times, "you, muh daughter, should figure out what it is you want" hurr durr. nothing, of course, like the celebrated stupidities/received ideas of history ; nor as ridiculous nor as pervasive nor as inexplicable because easily dispelled nor in any way remarkable. a mediocre delusion at best.
mircea_popescu: but... it's also an easy mistake to make ; an easy stupidity to buy into. and it "explains" away so very much, insulates the mind from personal failure so well... DOES SO MUCH DAMAGE disavowed...
mircea_popescu: it's neither, eminently. what some woman composing the 2nd to 80th percentile of any population of women THINKS she wants is of no consequence and utterly no import, for anyone HERSELF FOREMOST. tryna discover "what you want" unless you're god;s own chosen is exactly like tryna discover if moonrock should be browner
mircea_popescu: it's funny, the havoc http://trilema.com/2018/hey-women-did-you-know-that-before-the-pantsuited-hilarity-gave-you-your-civil-rights-you-were-living-in-slavery/ has wrounght ; all these mid to low level females taking refuge in a confined life and smoking a lot of pot because pantsuited hilarity tricked them into thinking discovering "what they want" is a legtimate use of their brain time, and something they should care abo
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 23:30:28 asciilifeform: spent the day in ironworks, away from console
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937494 << /me spent the day amusing myself/ourselves with local girly.
trinque: in that vein, it occurs to me that this holding back of items such as ^ is dishonorable in that it's effectively a signal that one intends to drag whichever items with him into the grave/bottle/sea
trinque: I'll genesis the wotcode after this is complete.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 04:16:36 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:26:30 diana_coman: trinque: nm, it was my bad; maybe add though a note to the !!help there?
trinque just got in, but has been eating the log via asciilifeform's lovely reader
lobbes has been glued to console most of the day; almost has the first chunk of mp-wp-bot functioning (inserting log lines to blog post piece)
asciilifeform spent the day in ironworks, away from console
BingoBoingo: Also lots of drumming somewhere, un "paro general de taxistas", and Pepe Mujica agitating for pichi rights on the rambla
BingoBoingo: Lots of dumpster fires today. Uncertain if they were politically motivated or futbol related.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/09/landscape-with-the-fall-of-icarus/ << Bimbo Club -- Landscape with the fall of Icarus.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937480 << this is exactly right. fucktarded protestants, protested the papacy for being too inept and corrupt ; built themselves a derpier, more inept papacy in its place.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/minneapolis-police-decline-to-classify-racially-motivated-beating-of-white-man-by-black-crowd-as-a-hate-crime-because-whitey-was-selected-for-attack-due-to-his-incapacitation-rather-than-his-race/ << Qntra -- Minneapolis Police Decline To Classify Racially Motivated Beating Of White Man By Black Crowd As A Hate Crime Because Whitey Was Selected For Attack Due To His Incapacitation Rather Than His Race
asciilifeform: like the old clergy, plenty of simoniacs, back-scratchers, misc. hangers-on
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nominally organized army of great inca, aha; but on the periphery , all sortsa oddball barnacles attached
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As far as I can tell Harvard, MIT, WUStl, U Chicago, Stanford, et al are functionally little more than Cathedrals of Pantsuitism where the self loathing go to get their benedictions and such