asciilifeform: phf: it was part of the fiction where 'no we didn't surrender to americans, your rape is a traditional ancient greek, dontchaknow, rape style, nuffin to do with usa'
shinohai: Since event is being held in Russia, inb4 Russian hackers fucked with the team
phf: (ipoteka is a ru word by way of greece for mortgage, i've not heard it before when growing up, but now at a certain age it's a main conversation subject/as well as advertisement, so i've been cracking up every time i hear it. i've been forcing it as a catch all term for "orc financial matters" to the confused looks of my ru friends)
shinohai: lmao the U.S. futbol team was defeated 2-1 by *Trinidad and Tobago* and will not advance to the World Cup.
phf: depending on the person either the context of "you're a banker, what do bitcoin investment" or else futurism "soon there won't be ИПОТЕКА everything will be in bitcions, have you heard?"
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that the ethertardium etc folx today target moneyed orcs, rather than homo-mmmicus .
asciilifeform: they also have 'problem' of having been inoculated with mmm
mircea_popescu: local orcs have their own homegrown equivalents of graham-style "entrepreneurship".
asciilifeform: i saw a little reportage, it was interestingly the ~exact same spamcarnival as seen prev in usa & elsewhere. oddly ~no homegrown orc scamola .
mircea_popescu: all this "conference" bs is much a subleaf of that, for the loser/womenz to try hand at.
asciilifeform: the ukrs did in fact recently put on some public spectacle where they hosted 'up and coming' shitcoinists, ethertards, et al
mircea_popescu: i guess they don't know what cyprus is huh.
asciilifeform: plus another where 'Ukraine will be the first country in the world to legalize Bitcoin, Altcoins, Cryptobanks & ICO Trading. Be a part of history! Earn up to 20%...'
phf: oh, man, i've been typing TeX yesterday, so the quotes got stuck
phf: ``Google shuts YouTube channel implicated in Kremlin political propaganda ops (techcrunch.com)'' ``although the videos did not gain significant traction on YouTube, according to The Daily Beast, which said they had only garnered “hundreds” of views prior to the channel being closed''
asciilifeform: it's the universal pattern. 1 of the half dozen or so basic hammers in their toolkit, along with 'unhappeneding', 'taiwaning', etc
phf: but at the same time it's handy strawman: ~web of trust~ is broken, because our take on it is a piece of shit. i thought that's some pantsuit pattern discussed elsewhere
phf: to be fair gnupg's wot and the corresponding mechanisms are broken. that's where the whole "trusted key" and such nonsense come from
asciilifeform: and naturally no koch speech is complete without a 'the web of trust, he feels, is inherently broken. It is only explicable to geeks, and not to all of them, it publishes a global social graph, because signatures on keys imply physical meetings on known dates, and it doesn't scale.'
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: '...the timings from the RSA HSM showed that a doubling of the key length increased the time required to sign nearly six-fold, and the time for verification even more. The timings from the Ed25519 HSM were agreeably small (all sub-50ms).' << this is precious
asciilifeform: 'Koch then moved into Elliptic Curve Cryptography (ECC), which he discussed at some length. RSA, he said, is not likely to stay secure for much longer without really large keys. Support for 4096-bit RSA keys has been in GnuPG for some time, but Koch contends that real security will require 16Kb keys; that makes keys, fingerprints, and signatures all unusably long, particularly for embedded devices and hardware security modules (HSMs)
shinohai: "Fuck guys, were on nsa watchlist, can't use amlbitcoin" "Oh noes, WHAT THE FUCK WE GONNA DO?!?!"
BingoBoingo: And now that there are replies, plural for a change; the responses are bifurcating. There is "more information on your company pls" and then there is "more information on your requirments pls"
BingoBoingo: And the HK business day starts at 4 am UTC
BingoBoingo: So, replies finally coming in from the Pinoys, the Hong Kongs, and a lone Thai outfit that outsources their email to wix.com
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btce', 'bfx', 'btcavg', 'btcde', 'krk', 'bitmynt', 'btsp'] or 'all'
trinque: not done, but there's a foundation
asciilifeform: can speak now, and he'll read the log & maybe answer
mircea_popescu: iirc that's how these go.
asciilifeform: nfi, the grace of marx & engels for all iknow.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's nuffin, i got one that claimed to be 'the only dc accredited to maximal nsa level' or somesuch
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, Gerrys by the grace of Allah advertises its... US General Services Administration approval...
asciilifeform: xоть жопой ешь in the orig
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have enough disqualifieds i can eat them with my arse
asciilifeform: gotta be the most frustrating item i've yet attempted here. like climbing a vertical glass wall greased with vaseline.
trinque: neither network nor hateful USB thieves touch it. human operator enters txn details; txn leave signed via qr code.
BingoBoingo: working on decoding that myself, found said adjectives attached to effort in the wilds
mircea_popescu: there's a humongo market here.
trinque: both to offer subscriptions myself and other registered folks.
trinque: now, I do have subscriptions planned for the bot.
mircea_popescu: suppose i'm buying 30 bux worth of dildos online. me : "do you take btc ?" "sure". turns out it's via mycelium/bitpay/coinbase, and the above applies.
trinque: if doing it on chain, we're doing the hot wallet thing and I'm sitting around waiting to lose coin
trinque: other party just needs to have an account.
mircea_popescu: most processors want to see a txn within 15 mins, and most users have no idea they can set that interval to more sane values.\
mircea_popescu: to bring coal to the forest fire : any way you can think of to make micropayments instant ?
trinque: thing just needs ripped out. all the stuff wrote in own lisp code sat down on the new box without a peep.
trinque: feeds module is a pyturd and it's having a hell of a time on the new server for yet mysterious reasons.
trinque: nah on the bot's end
mircea_popescu: trinque i very much dun think so. not in the feed atm, and never saw such before.
BingoBoingo: In other "why was this a suprise": The Hong Kong and China Gas Company Limited (Towngas) has a large footprint in the Azn telecom market
BingoBoingo: Doing it that way is super for the effort
BingoBoingo: For definitions of happy hour that involve coffee rather than more traditional happy hour beverages
asciilifeform: without usg stacking the kindling -- no fire.
asciilifeform: this is exactly the winblowz thing tho
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: California regularly burns, but a good percent of the time homo sapien malefactor is fingered as acute reason for the when and how of burning
BingoBoingo: So, California wine country is burning and I am disappoint that no one is making a connection between that and antifa terrorism against the percieved white bourgeoisie "exploiting" brown labor
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-10-10 19:54:45: <danielpbarron> what's the procedure for that? you create invoice and i respond?
mircea_popescu: but then again, "horse will splash"
asciilifeform: we have a different wasp here, no more than half of this size, but one time i personally witnesses the seemingly impossible -- it rose up after stomped on with boot, and flew as if nothing happened
mircea_popescu: there's these hydrocephalic ants, i kid you not, peasized heads atop tiny ant bodies
mircea_popescu: those antennae are the wow of all time.
asciilifeform pictures wasp grimly led to the firing squad
asciilifeform: lol i thought we'd get the wasp mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fuel-air bombs still the #1 bomb.
mircea_popescu got a two inch wasp mounted as part of permanent wax museum yest. 5 mm worth of stinger, this bitch had, and the weirdest antennae.
asciilifeform: ( either simply full petrol truck, or fancier, with pressure washer )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of which, gotta wonder why mr.100kusdwiretopinoy hero didn't use the magic of fossil fuel
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo has a history of poking fun at the tards, so he's more than welcome.
asciilifeform: me neither!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 15:39 mircea_popescu: so in other lulz, i'm buying some 10k+ karma reddit accounts ; who wants some for future republican lulz ? shinohai ? BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> why put it back. << For the imagined value of pretending "We were going above and beyond for valued customer"
mircea_popescu: in other funbagz, http://78.media.tumblr.com/18e62b1a7222627c536ab14ff01e5d4a/tumblr_ouh1a7uHMw1sidmvao1_1280.jpg
mod6: that the rss feed?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-did-the-chicken-cross-the-road/ << Trilema - Why did the chicken cross the road ?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-sexy-problem-formalized/ << Trilema - The sexy problem, formalized
asciilifeform: somehow this is even moar wtf than if the box simply walked away
mircea_popescu: i thought just usual "Branding" idiocy at the time. but a novel theory just presented itself.
mircea_popescu: then switched to uab/cherry servers
mircea_popescu: so they can you know, change name yet again and so on.
asciilifeform: entirely possible that they plugged it in, and outlookdotcoming like madmen to ask mircea_popescu why not paid tab
asciilifeform: theoretically anything at all can be expected from it, e.g. you place shop order and next minute it's gone
asciilifeform: they... plugged it back in.
mircea_popescu: and the grand utility of sasl logins grows ever more evident.
mircea_popescu: also leaving out the "we will route your emails through outlook.com just in case nsa wants to not explain how it took a peek" lulz seems inappropriate.
mircea_popescu: so in other lulz, i'm buying some 10k+ karma reddit accounts ; who wants some for future republican lulz ? shinohai ? BingoBoingo ?
mircea_popescu: and in other winter prep, http://78.media.tumblr.com/50ff399180bedefa5d9a7bdf14dd8520/tumblr_midkqdqdif1r7w8xxo1_500.jpg
asciilifeform: -SaslServ- asciilifeform_!~asciilife@unaffiliated/asciilifeform has just authenticated as you (asciilifeform) << ahahahahaha
mircea_popescu: and in other medicaids, http://78.media.tumblr.com/a8cdbe2386588041da83a84cff0bba71/tumblr_nq45q5bfes1rzx2hho4_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: From the mines https://i.redditmedia.com/OErCGxBHNpxGR-pSLf7UnPTrTuFOLMSLwc_9-tJnaNA.jpg?w=620&s=c800920ec2cf3364ea5eebe70365b861
mircea_popescu: notrly. possibly the gensets they bought back when they were building their hydro power ?
asciilifeform: nazis iirc almost made up their minds to build 'ideal' ( iirc 3 metres even ) rail gauge, but didn't live nearly long enuff.
asciilifeform: not in india either, but stuck with brittardation
mircea_popescu: the item goes on to point out that since SRBs had to go on rail which went through a tunnel, notwithstanding space shuttle engineers wanted wider boosters originally, the specs of the space shuttle was established millenia prior by the size of a horse's ass.
mircea_popescu: used anything there was a significant chance to break a wheel in the road, as all the trails were built by 1435 mm wheels. but why were they ? because when the romans originally landed, they used 1435 mm wide wheelbases, which they had originally specified because it is what two average horses asses cover.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : so us rail gauge is 1435 mm. why ? because the first us rail was built by english immigrants, who kept to the english style. but why was the english style 1435 mm ? because rail started as (horse drawn) trams, and that was the gauge they used. but why ? because when they made trams they just used the old horse carriage gauge, by reusing the same tools. but why did carriages use 1435 mm gauge ? because if they
asciilifeform: ( similar in that it does the thing described in the pseudo - https://archive.is/2zA45 )
BingoBoingo: Lol @Brauchian Chicken/road/God unity, as the lensgrinder intended
hanbot: mircea_popescu it makes a neat catalogue for picking something to read. like every other article, i suppose, but in a different format. ;)
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-did-the-chicken-cross-the-road/ << Trilema - Why did the chicken cross the road ?
asciilifeform: phf: the bernsteinian 'werker' is also c proggy. ( phuctor , in all 4 versions to date, consisted of 2 pieces, running wholly separately )
asciilifeform: but note that it does not in principle differ from the version that found the first pops.
asciilifeform: anyway the above was written in a few hrs. and it is not difficult to see why thrown out.
asciilifeform: phf: i dun think i ever posted the modern ( bernsteinian ) one.
asciilifeform: suggests that 'be' was interesting in spite of, rather than because of, him
phf: the guy incidentally went through a bunch of interesting but failed enterprises. e.g. he worked on palm one on the downswing, later was hired as a high profile consultant by nokia, told them to ditch symbian and replace it with android.
asciilifeform: phf: it was imho nifty. but ditching the 'own hardware, x86 can fuck itself' thing was , i suspect, the fatal mistake
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723353 << hur, well, i appreciated Beos at the time, it is sad to see now the kind of jokers worked on it then `everything-is-made-of-shit
mircea_popescu: the problem with theoretical models based on projecting projections is that they're not even wrong.
mircea_popescu: and the people with the global warming see as quite fantastic all sorts of other theoretical contradictions of their theoretical models.
asciilifeform: the supposition that ideally-correct ffa could possibly run slower than the current one (supposing these 2 differ) i see as quite fantastic.
mircea_popescu: can not calculate anything on the basis of inexistent items.
mircea_popescu: because it's not had a significant history in production yet, which is what "item exists" means for the needs of future projection.
asciilifeform: i dun get why mircea_popescu equates the present situation with a complete lack of the item
mircea_popescu: quantifying "a single aspect" of "how stewardess would look in airplane i've not yet bought" is no better than quantifying any other / all of them.
mircea_popescu: no such thing is possible, for lack of... the item.
trinque: there was a whole thing about pastebin snippets being fine because not ready for vpatch
mircea_popescu: yeah well. there's no ~= in this arithmetic. if rsatron has been in production for a while and functioning correctly we can revisit these.
asciilifeform: i'd concur with mircea_popescu that one ought not connect ffa to, e.g., icbm, until it comes with proofs for all of the components, etc. -- but we do have a working modexp, from which can extrapolate pessimal speed ( it will get faster, but let's assume for said calculation that it will not )
asciilifeform: modexp ~= rsatron ( there is also keygen, but from pov of gedankenexperiment re 'what bandwidth?' you dun need it )
mircea_popescu: the rsatron.
mircea_popescu: there's no practical way to do rsa for realtime comms, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-01#1719192
asciilifeform: a clever buffering scheme would work mircea_popescu-style, by sending otp rngolade during idle pauses in conversation, and thereafter using.
asciilifeform: ( this is quite attainable using the ffa we have ~today~, supposing one allows karatsuba to split 3way on 3 cores of whatever chip you have )
asciilifeform: there are voice compressions that give quite satisfactory speech with ~300 byte/sec bandwidth
asciilifeform: btw let's do the phone thing, briefly. a 4096b rsa modexp can carry 4096b , i.e. 512byte, of payload sans padding. let's conservatively suppose that padding ( and hash auth, or whatever, and/or lubyzation, etc ) costs half of the payload room. so you get 256 byte per 4096b modexp;
mircea_popescu: "there will be a moscow exhibition of arts by over 100 sculptors and painters of the soviet republics. these were executed over the past five years."
asciilifeform: ( imho word 'server' is inherently misleading in this domain; oughta call 'masters' and 'slaves' , the brokers and those relying on'em respectively )
mircea_popescu recalls the convo!
asciilifeform: ( observe that for hole punching, the 'server' does not need to be a heavy duty box that sits as 'star topology apex', but can be any of one or more boxes among the nodes themselves , at a particular time, with external ip. )
mircea_popescu: well, might want to get it anyway, fill hdd with naked pictures of the wives of "dutch authorities"
asciilifeform: ( i.e. for the nodes of the network to know at all times of at least 1 member among them who has external ip )
mircea_popescu: well... you recall the convo. at the least you're using the ephemereal connectors as then discussed.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 18:28 asciilifeform: the only quasi-reliable method ( 'udp hole punch' ), used by , e.g., 'skype', STILL requires a 3rd party non-natted box to broker the connection
mircea_popescu: why do we use freenode rather than gossipd ?
mircea_popescu: i expect they use it for routing. nfi.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's 'hacked off koch' has been sitting right there on www since 2015.
mircea_popescu: just this kindergarten level bar, "the server held no plaintext whatsoever".
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't mind the dood who hacked off rsa from koch pgp and made a server that just passed encrypted comms. that's it.
asciilifeform: i too would like to meet the d00d who , e.g., wrote nonleaking realtime rsa , made a modem around it, made own FG, etc
mircea_popescu: except for the one that does, but a) is too ineptly proud to be here and b) nobody can possibly hear about him through the biofilm before he gets dooglus 'd out of the market.
asciilifeform: they're exactly 'private internet access co'
asciilifeform: in so far as i can tell, none of these items have anything to do with even kochian pgp
mircea_popescu: i don't comprehend what the "seizing of server" did for a pgp phone service.
asciilifeform: reminiscent of the 'private internet access' scamola, but for higher-budget chumpers
mircea_popescu: lol this is proof that users are not jew-eligible for jew-marriage with the "criminology phds" over at "dutch authorities" ?
asciilifeform: 'In Manupassa’s case, after Dutch authorities seized Ennetcom’s servers they pushed a message out to all of the firm’s phones: if you’re, say, a doctor, lawyer, or other non-criminal user of the devices, please get in touch. No one responded to the message, even though, according to court records, Ennetcom had some 20,000 users.' << sooo precious
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/6Snbe << meanwhile, in the land of the homebrew caesar cipher experts and nsa provocateurs : 'A dizzying number of companies offer these sorts of phones all across the world: Phantom, Global Data, Encrochat, Secure Mobile, PublicPGP, PGPClass, Elite, Fortis Iceland PGP, and many more.'
mircea_popescu: phf you never commented on how dumb/palatable the `tag:url thing is to your eye.
mircea_popescu: and the fact that conclaves of idiots and imbeciles, however you label them, wired and wikipedia and etcetera won't gush about how "mp is famous about writing the definitive work on "bazaar" style development" is simply an argument here, and no further consideration.
mircea_popescu: and in fact the term is deeply descriptive. the result of the approach is very strictly an open defecation field with some colorful plastic affixed to randomly distributed, rotting wood poles.
mircea_popescu: so no -- the "bazaar" does NOT fucking work. not in the slightest bit, not at all whatsoever.
asciilifeform: the picture mircea_popescu described is imho typical
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is it working as intended, or is the result trb-like ( 'life support patient' ) ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is exactly what this is. we're making own by eating away the dumbass snail at ant's pace.
asciilifeform: seems almost like it'd be worth the expense to make own.
mircea_popescu: nothing does, because all the `dumb:http://trilema.com/2017/friday-night-or-las-moiras-revisited/ cunts think themselves emancipated now and why sould they take orders!! from anyone!!!1
mircea_popescu: the domain in question is "game libs which i can control"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is the domain in question specifically 'public 3d engine libs' ?
asciilifeform: the derp who 'i am an orc and tinker because what else' and 'i am a phd and tinker because i am god and bow to me, peons' converge to very similar result, sorta like the new world and old world vulture are unrelated birds but look quite alike and have same diet and habits
mircea_popescu: and to preempt the "why are you using this" naive question : it is BY FAR, in its sorry state significantly worse than described and likely worse than couldf be described, STILL and BY VERY FAR way the4 fuck better than anything else out there.
mircea_popescu: cuz they're euro twerps.
mircea_popescu: evidently the principal value of engineer school is to teach the veal where he hasn't the fucking liberty to tinker -- which is ALMOST EVERYWHERE.
mircea_popescu: "my twiddling the value knob is how you do science!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the perceived liberty to tinker!
a111: Logged on 2016-01-21 13:29 asciilifeform: 'if i make it what i think is the right size, it crashes!111'
mircea_popescu: who the fuck approves "threading" to not do threading with.
asciilifeform: in this case the obstacle was, likely, 'operation that crashes the proggy'. to imbecile such as shitoshi, the answer is naturally 'put it in infinitely respawning thread'
mircea_popescu: yes, but rather than have an a-b-c threaded thing where if b dies a immediately follows, you might as well have a cleanner and neater abc.
asciilifeform: re 'why would anyone think to use threads' -- this is not mega-puzzle. naggum described similar situation in the bulldozer essay. imbecile sees an obstacle, reaches for the most obvious available power tool that seems to push aside the obstacle; without giving half a shit what's behind it, woods, swamp, mountain, or where the earth he pushed aside will go, and how it might interact with him later, etc
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's roughly the equivalent of "oh, you want to have your monitor display your wedding pics correctly ? guess who's rewriting linux."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not merely graphics lib. does ~everything except the actual game mechanics.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is this what the eulora folx spend most of their time on?? fighting with eldrich horror graphics lib?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the main program loop, basically.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i just can't grasp wtf is going on in the rakim skulls.
mircea_popescu: i am vaguely amazed they don't have a "special" thread to handle what x does anyway, ie kbd buffering./
mircea_popescu: which is ~safe, because the os doesn't need help anyway.
mircea_popescu: so basically they made a thread to "replace" the work the os does with the tcp stack, for instance.
mircea_popescu: a) none of these are respawned if killed ; b) all of these die within the second if any dies ; c) none of these are capable to multispawn under load.
mircea_popescu: so, idiots made "threads" because hey, they read on expert-sex-change that threads are better. the server thereby has a networking thread, an event manager thread, and a db thread.
asciilifeform: is the correct version.
mircea_popescu: "a software engineer is the person solving a problem you didn't know you had in a manner you don't understand."
mircea_popescu: happens to me to this day. drives teh girls up the wall in angry shame, but i dun hold it against them.
asciilifeform: hey at one time asciilifeform was a stereotypical 'HAVE you tried PLUGGING it IN ?!' sysop. and it was most of the time... the correct answer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a trivial case where the observed property would be necessariyl true, what.
mircea_popescu: well, if your detective work occurs in the us advertising market...
mircea_popescu: "a boyscout is a kid dressed like an idiot under the orders of an idiot dressed like a child."
asciilifeform: it offers the crud it got via mothership, for no less a price than what mothership prescribed
mircea_popescu: they spend too much time on curated usgardens.
mircea_popescu: also there's not a huge crime rate driving "inseguridad", also there's absolutely no market for uber, and so fucking following.
asciilifeform: then 'oh hey foreign rube, we can chisel!' ?
mircea_popescu: also there's no "global warming" happening in orcistan, and also pedophiles didn't suddely become interested in highschoolers.
asciilifeform: continued iteration is the result.
asciilifeform: possibly it is not even possible to drill through the biofilm without a wot in.
mircea_popescu: also, hostdime is not on the list.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the custom in india appears to be 'death by nickel and dime', 'here's a toilet, if you want paper that's extra'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahahaha /29 Subnets ?! what the fguck is wrong with these people. the dead dulap had a c block. the dead other server idem. what the fuck already.
mircea_popescu: romania never actually had a guild in the sense seen now in the us ; not even during the ceausescu times.
mircea_popescu: ftr : the "bus depot jokes" are not an equivalent here. they are crass, which is to say employ a certain drastic sort of romanian. but otherwise "balada pizdei" was written by topirceanu, "povestea pulii" by creanga, these are all "intellectuals" ie of the literary canon.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in very other noose, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/hIp2p/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: spyked trilema stands far outside the following abilities of any single man! but yes, we eknow each other for years nao.
spyked: mircea_popescu, re comment, had no idea this happened. I'll admit I haven't followed him (digested a few, such as the "ma fut in ea de ploaie" piece), so will review.
asciilifeform: including jihadi websites, far-right propaganda and bomb-making instructions face the full force of the law.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of brittardation lulz: https://archive.is/bkkm7 >> 'Home Secretary Amber Rudd will say those found guilty of repeatedly viewing terrorist material could face up to 15 years in jail. The new law will extend an existing ban on downloading and possessing the content on a PC to repeatedly watching it through sites like YouTube. Ms Rudd said: “I want to make sure those who view despicable terrorist content online
mircea_popescu: he's perhaps the best example in this vein, even if not as well known as say MGM cartoon division.
spyked: heh. good thing we have them to survive the humourpocalypse. :D ftr, there is ro equivalent for this, under the popular term "glume de autobaza" ("depot jokes")
BingoBoingo: spyked: The Anglo Comedian's guild banned humour. For laffs you need to consult foreigners and scabs
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 19:38 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> poorly porous to us, but theoretically even moar so to pantsuit << Appeal of jungle is non-interference in white man's affairs. Downside is shifting past marketing speak to discover "1GBP/s unmetered (30Mb/s international)"
BingoBoingo: <davout> former customer of mine is apparently in the process of putting together a DC there << What would international connectivity be like? Would it be a repeat of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721926 (datacenter in vietnam)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 02:14 asciilifeform: but i'd rather see a cleaner method where it happens via the usual phf backarrow
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723141 << fwiw arrows were emergent, from an already well established at the time convention. but i agree with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723119
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 23:52 phf: mondo 2000, the proto valley crowd, i think we had the thread. basically, jwz.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-07#1680305 << https://www.wired.com/1996/05/gassee/ a '96 wired article about bebox (but more so about Be head, Gassée), the article is framed by a gratuitous road trip from palo alto to black rock desert (i.e. burning man site) hot springs
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 05:01 mircea_popescu: "when my wife saw how many bottles of wine i bought for new year's, she bid me take them to the bathroom and dump them down the drain. i did as she said, because the wife is that person one shares with all life's happiness and unhappines. and sadness. and misfortune. and catastrophe. and all other disasters that wouldn't have happened had one not married."
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723282 <-- spyked puts this on the list; http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723300 <-- pretty good, but the gestures, still untranslatable. are there any good anglo comedians who can do a drunk these days?
spyked: btw, the recent discussions re schengen are lulzy (basically a rehash of the old ones, plus-minus the talks about "refugees" etc.). which brings back that old piece http://trilema.com/2013/no-seriously-not-much-of-a-priority-anymore/
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 21:25 mircea_popescu: they adhere to anything.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1723083 <-- this is a sad truth, also at individual level. incidentally makes very easy to sift through the chaff of non-thinking ppl.
davout: would the republic be interdasted in colocating boxes in central african republic?
davout: "A superior pilot uses his superior judgment to avoid situations which require the use of his superior skill."