asciilifeform: the lulzy bit in 'shame and war' is that greenspun correctly identifies html as newjerseylade liquishit, but wholly misrepresents the focus of the braindamage ( he thinks it has something to do with lacking styling; and then 'hey they invented css, fixed it!' )
mircea_popescu: "Since Travels with Samantha was getting 100,000 hits/day, the spillover from there into my research area was actually good for more exposure than my paper would have gotten from the conference proceedings." << way the fuck truer in 2017 than it was in 1994.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 14:24 spyked: speaking of which: http://archive.is/Vs1UC <-- "By 2020 [Intel] are said to be "removing legacy BIOS support from client and data center platforms." Based on the timing, it's then looking like for Intel Tiger Lake or Sapphire Rapids where they may cut off the legacy BIOS support." good riddance, eh?
asciilifeform: not archived, either.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/philg/research/shame-and-war.html << nao 404
asciilifeform: consider how much more feasible a Troo Dictionary would be, on a hypertexttron that wasn't built by newjersey wreckers, with the idiot unidirectional links, each of which results in loading whole new file, and cannot meaningfully point to a section thereof, and the retarded anchors , and could go on for a week
asciilifeform: trinque: the dictionary thread immediately reminded me of it
trinque: nope, have several improvements to the paybot (and cutting off the trb wallet) ahead of that
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i just want, from a strategic perspective, the tool whereby to be able to force a wedge among "website owners" and have them upgrade whether they want to or not, off the imperial tree.
asciilifeform: i'ma let ben_vulpes , phf , others who served lengthy sentences of sisyphation in js , elaborate.
shinohai: From @blockchain "We are experiencing an outage of our internal database. Your funds are safe. We've identified the issue and are working on a resolution. Stay updated at https://www.blockchain-status.com"
asciilifeform: i mean, why retain the retarded syntax, and not cut straight to e.g. tmsr-scheme
mircea_popescu: in the sense.
asciilifeform: pretty sure his ( and others ) give back the bytes that were put in ( which imho is correct behaviour )
mircea_popescu: why not ? phf';s logotron posts them correctly, as /x whatevers
mircea_popescu: confiscate javascript from w3c by writing a subset from the pov of the republican lord, not from the pov of the bankrupt usg remoras trying to pretend like they're "online companies" "making money"
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741262 <-- I tried building a long time ago, but couldn't get it to do js. I'll give it a second shot. will also try to link js library against libc without unicode support (it seems links depends on libmozjs). /me adds another write-up to the list for when he gets this to work.
asciilifeform: in other noose, far away, 'Bitbet is shutting down as the admin team is no longer in a position to manage the site. All contracts that could be resolved have been resolved, and winnings have been paid out...'
asciilifeform: seems like it'd defeat half the point of using lynx to begin with, neh
asciilifeform: hm i had nfi there is a lynx with js
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:33 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740268 <-- coincidentally, I've been working on a very similar thing this week-end. managed to get rid of gcc 5.4 through a variation on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC ; compressed steps: 1. install heathen stage3; 2. right after minimal setup (timezone, locale etc.), install gcc 4.9.4, and switch to it as default using gcc-config; 3. mask gcc >=5 in portage; 4. rebuild @system (and/or
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741187 << the correct solution is to not install the gcc5 nonsense to begin with, then won't need cleaning. but this won't be happening during isp winter
mircea_popescu: needs a special compile time flag and then a config diddle
spyked: mircea_popescu, js browser (e.g. firefox) that allows linking trilema snippets. the only reason I still keep one around.
mircea_popescu: my software consists of mostly bash, these days. what software ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741119 << the occasional morphinist, in fact quits and becomes something resembling normal person. redditism, on other hand...
spyked: mircea_popescu, problem isn't whether unicode is needed. but that "modern" software insists on shoving "support" down one's throat. it can be removed, of course (either support or software altogether), only I suspect the pile of unicode-enhanced crap yet hides some useful items.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 09:59 mircea_popescu: if these kinds of non-items, memetic prions are anywhere in your mental space, you're suffering, from a disease. "if you're reading it, it's for you", and it's for you because you've already got a heavy load of misfolded protein.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741114 << from what i've seen so far, the prognosis for sufferers is quite grim
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 14:21 spyked: trinque, ftr, I tried getting a uclibc system up, but it seems to lack e.g. localization support, which didn't get me very far. will have to give this another shot on the next box I get up (which might not even be an x86 box; or else, it will be a pcengines).
spyked: remaining problem is that it also needs to be cut out of software that relies on it. or eliminating such software altogether (this includes a large part of GUI software stack; did eulora go through the "needs locale" experience?).
mircea_popescu: so not having such support saves you the trouble of having to cut it out later ?
spyked: speaking of which: http://archive.is/Vs1UC <-- "By 2020 [Intel] are said to be "removing legacy BIOS support from client and data center platforms." Based on the timing, it's then looking like for Intel Tiger Lake or Sapphire Rapids where they may cut off the legacy BIOS support." good riddance, eh?
spyked: trinque, ftr, I tried getting a uclibc system up, but it seems to lack e.g. localization support, which didn't get me very far. will have to give this another shot on the next box I get up (which might not even be an x86 box; or else, it will be a pcengines).
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with these idiots.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741206 <-- at some point, glib folks will decide that gcc < 5 isn't "modern enough" to build glibc, so they'll break compatibility. will, in the (now) tradition of introducing arbitrary changes.
spyked: shinohai, pretty good. gentoo diddling. I'm trying to get a new box up, learn v, compile trb, add an ada in, learn lisp internals ... (the list continues)
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740478 << I do. lemme dust it off and run, then I'll genesis it and put on my blog.
shinohai: For me it was rather like building a model airplane, box of parts "Here, build this". Sometimes I wanted to just dump it all in the trash and just get high on the glue but persistence pays off I suppose.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 13:59 spyked: for the record, the steps described in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741187 work *today*. it will be increasingly harder to get a sane system once glib stops compiling with gcc 4.9, etc. an archaelogical approach would be to freeze the current state of the gentoo mirrors and build own stage1, stage2 etc. from scratch with known-working libc versions etc.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741203 <<< I would like to help ( I believe it was mod6 that mentioned it previously) set up some sort of mirror for just this purpose, because yes outside things will become unreliable sooner rather than later.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:33 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740268 <-- coincidentally, I've been working on a very similar thing this week-end. managed to get rid of gcc 5.4 through a variation on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC ; compressed steps: 1. install heathen stage3; 2. right after minimal setup (timezone, locale etc.), install gcc 4.9.4, and switch to it as default using gcc-config; 3. mask gcc >=5 in portage; 4. rebuild @system (and/or
spyked: for the record, the steps described in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741187 work *today*. it will be increasingly harder to get a sane system once glib stops compiling with gcc 4.9, etc. an archaelogical approach would be to freeze the current state of the gentoo mirrors and build own stage1, stage2 etc. from scratch with known-working libc versions etc.
mircea_popescu: it is ~extremely~ important to write these, much more so than can be evaluated at the present time. the value becomes evident mostly in retrospect.
spyked: (in other cockphemisms: carici, calabastoc; the latter, to my knowledge, does not exist in dictionaries, being entirely of rural origin)
spyked: (belengher, of course, yet another euphemism for cock; a festeli: to stain, or rather, daub)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 02:18 asciilifeform: back to the baseline item ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740660 ) -- if mircea_popescu , diana_coman , spyked , ... ( who else we have ? ) would like to submit corrections/additions/subtractions -- plox to vpatch
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741023 <-- I didn't get from the discussion: are regionalisms, archaisms, etc. to be included in this dict, or are they separate item? example: belengher (plus expr. "a festeli belengherul", similar in meaning to "a caca steagul" mentioned earlier by diana_coman)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740268 <-- coincidentally, I've been working on a very similar thing this week-end. managed to get rid of gcc 5.4 through a variation on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC ; compressed steps: 1. install heathen stage3; 2. right after minimal setup (timezone, locale etc.), install gcc 4.9.4, and switch to it as default using gcc-config; 3. mask gcc >=5 in portage; 4. rebuild @system (and/or
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 22:41 asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes https://github.com/threonorm/simulisp/blob/master/SCHEME-79/SCHEME-79%20Lisp%20on%20a%20chip.pdf << ( yes, pdf, it's an ancient scan, 1981 ) very spiffy review article by sussman re the famous scheme79 chip; also pertinent to anyone writing simple lisptrons of whatever kind
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738883 <-- pascal still in ro highschool curriculum afaik. ro school has much bigger problems, in the vein of http://trilema.com/2011/la-ce-imi-serveste-mie-radicalurile/ being asked not only by students, but by teachers themselves! (e.g. I once received q from teacher: "what's more important, physics or mathematics?" "both, bitch! and nao stop amputating those curricula!")
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 19:03 jurov: a111: strings are sequences, not lists. cons/car/cdr does not apply, there's different set of functions for these
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737956 <-- but lists are sequences too, and strings can be represented as lists. this becomes problematic when O(1) random accesses are needed. if/when that happens, I will have to implement arrays, but until then... strings are lists-of-characters.
spyked: safe array indexing), which brings asciilifeform's point re. bytecode further. in current item, builtins are hardcoded using strings, very not-elegant!
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 18:50 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737529 << that doesn't sound right, read and eval are distinct phases, by the time you get to eval you shouldn't be operating with strings when but instead with interned symbols (i.e. things that can be eq'd in lisp and pointer equivalent on c machine level)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via
spyked: #t has had a lot of interesting discussed! finally ate them up.
mircea_popescu: there's been a lot of that going around.
mircea_popescu: i suppose by the time twice the supermarket price per item is hardly worth a bitcoin transacton, we might be well advised to revisit that "ancient" http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/ piece from two years ago.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-02 01:00 mircea_popescu: but anyway, lulzy "duel" of talking points from the libtards and really-not-libtards-promise. they all agree russia doesn't matter and that hillary will somehow win the "elections", but you're more than free to connect the rest of the dots any way you please ? hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: this is getting fucking ridiculous, for the record. human sums (as defined by supermarket practice) totally unworth bothering with dust in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: they're the premier driver behind the "need to pack sardines tighter" "technologies".
mircea_popescu: so whenever silicon valley is doing something other than circlejerking, is building ways for various "public protections" invented by dnc / usg.blue / tammany hall to NOT apply.
mircea_popescu: lism was long ago disarmed by a democratic process increasingly dominated by powerful groups with economic interests antithetical to competitors and consumers. And the courts, from which the victims of burdensome regulation sought protection, have been negotiating the terms of surrender since the 1930s."
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 05:53 BingoBoingo: And in appcidental research into the market value of SUTO grad student labor: "Images of delivery take-home pay amounts posted to the Instacart shoppers’ Facebook group show recent instances where workers are sometimes making less than minimum wage for several hours of work. One woman showed $16.95 for seven hours of work in Jackson, Mississippi. Another said she was paid $13.30 for a three-hour job in St. Louis, Missouri. Yet anothe
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741080 << the WHOLE POINT of usg.sv "tech" is to get around the "The Hettingas sense of ill-usage is understandable. So is their consternation at being confronted with the gap between the rhetoric of free markets and the reality of ubiquitous regulation. The Hettingas collision with the MREAthe latest iteration of the venerable AMAAreveals an ugly truth: Americas cowboy capita
diana_coman: well, the eternal dream : it will be easy and fast and so on
mircea_popescu: YOU CAN TRAIN THE AVERAGE MALE INTO SUCCESS!
mircea_popescu: it's all in the wrist, see.
mircea_popescu: "Your initial state when seeing women you want is very important: the right one will cause you to approach them, the wrong one will panic and confuse you - preventing you from taking any action to ever meet them. If you do not meet them you almost certainly CANNOT have sex with them. Your internal state when you first see an attractive woman must be one of sexual enthusiasm, horniness, and unapologetic desire."
mircea_popescu: maybe if he took teh red pill ? do you think wikireddit could help him ? if he were more... less... i mean... if he where the fuck's that gunwitch dood.
mircea_popescu: but, democracy, rite ? gotta provide housing, food, loose shoes and a warm hole to sploodge in for ALL THESE.
diana_coman: ah, "sorta girlfriend", can be; onth I did stumble upon all sorts of reports from the other side: "my bf is all the time on his xbox, wut do" and so on
mircea_popescu: relieve. So even the idea of having to sell everything is killing me inside and stressing me. This is unfortunately causing problems with my (sorta) girlfriend since I just can't bring myself to get into anything sexual while it's on my mind. I feel bad that I am letting my personal problems affect her, but I don't know how to get myself into a better situation."
mircea_popescu: in related lulz, "Financial Struggles & Relationships, Journal Entry | 3 minutes ago : So I'm moving soon and am trying to scrape together enough money to pay for the move and for school fees so that I can get enrolled and back to classes. In order to do this, I basically have to sell all my gaming stuff since I don't qualify for any loans. The problem with that is that gaming is my life and pretty much my main form of stress
mircea_popescu: oh, retroversion of "throw in the towel"
diana_coman: I never heard it; dic says it's same as "a capitula"; possibly in a sponge-fight I'd gather
mircea_popescu: wtf is the former ?
mircea_popescu: the age of maturity keeps cheezing away
mircea_popescu: teenagers ? these are 30yos.
diana_coman: but I suppose it's about the same thing by now anyway
diana_coman: wtf that upspin; ftr the answers are no, no, no and NO, who has such "problems" anyway
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 03:46 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728845 << update on Madonna of the Yarnwinder auction... sold for ~only~ $450mn.
mircea_popescu: if these kinds of non-items, memetic prions are anywhere in your mental space, you're suffering, from a disease. "if you're reading it, it's for you", and it's for you because you've already got a heavy load of misfolded protein.
mircea_popescu: it's not merely a shame that "such problems" are continuously "identified" by idiots, but that the scream for help universally goes unheeded. if you think ~about~ such things as upspin.io, i don't mean if you're "working" at them or anything like that, if you merely think ABOUT them you're certifiably SUTO. get the fuck out, completely, right now, it's a worse addiction than krakadil. parts of your body are falling off!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 06:06 mircea_popescu: btw, is that the new "african american" pc term ? i seem to recall chapelle making a big deal out of wanting to be called a "custodian" in one of those hennifer-lopez level horrifyingly bad flicks he keeps churning out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741043 << more of the same nonsense. whoever is involved in that should drop everything they're doing, quit their "job", give away their "devices", burn down their "books", tell all their "friends" to go fucking kill themselves and take a curator (see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721615 ) job for a year or so while eating nothing but tmsr logs.
cazalla: ah, def gonna go and spend some time there and surrounding countries
cazalla: lol pm from vexual, was outside watering the plants m80
BingoBoingo: In other news, Charlie Manson Dead
BingoBoingo: Don't have to fixate on Poland though, could look to Romania and be the alfneighbor
cazalla: not that poland would be some paradise but step up from here, and i think kids would benefit from another language, young enough to pick up polish as first language instead of english
cazalla: really dont want to send them to school here :\
cazalla: will be easier getting it for the kids, i'm thinking convince missus we go for 6 month holiday, then buy and just stay
BingoBoingo: One could always make more kids with the Polish girls. Just make sure to get at least three so the jealousy keeps each in line.
cazalla: yeah, doing it from here, but they translate my documents and submit paperwork and apparently can take a while.. 3, 6, 12 months once all is said and done from start (kicked it off maybe 4 months ago getting dox) to finish
cazalla: the leaving part... i had downed almost a bottle of vodka, would like to buy a place there and take the kids with me but leaving them would be a bit much
BingoBoingo: And in appcidental research into the market value of SUTO grad student labor: "Images of delivery take-home pay amounts posted to the Instacart shoppers’ Facebook group show recent instances where workers are sometimes making less than minimum wage for several hours of work. One woman showed $16.95 for seven hours of work in Jackson, Mississippi. Another said she was paid $13.30 for a three-hour job in St. Louis, Missouri. Yet anothe
pete_dushenski: and then there are those who take it too literally http://neemic.asia/image/data/blog_images/wang%20lei0%20copy.jpg
asciilifeform: important bit is that it be authenticable.
pete_dushenski: "Maybe the $450 million is just a function of how rich the world's richest people have become. The price needed to be that high, just for them to notice the money." << salmon is right here at least. stacks of gov-backed paper just don't feel like all that much these days.
pete_dushenski: "At some level, the $450 million number is so big as to be meaningless. If I told you that the painting was bought for 60,000 bitcoins, would that make it easier to stomach?" << lulzomatic commentary on said auction from felix salmon https://tinyletter.com/felixsalmon/letters/nota-bene-10
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 18:02 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski considering the current bezzle pressure / overwhelming inflation and the very personal-brand-oriented populace, it will probably be 1bn just to be able to say 1bn.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728845 << update on Madonna of the Yarnwinder auction... sold for ~only~ $450mn.
BingoBoingo: Thinking dexedrine is the only dex isomered thing is racis
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 19:19 mircea_popescu: an antique and therefore reliable copy of the dex (dictionar explicativ al limbii romane). 80 mb's worth.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740754 << am i the only one who can't read "dex" without thinking "dexedrine" ? phf ?
BingoBoingo: zod_ Let's get to know each other first? Who is your daddy and what does he do?
mircea_popescu: and in other blondies, http://78.media.tumblr.com/f40c5631c395c433fb12e82d0cc00a28/tumblr_nll1clsuEJ1rszn81o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: it's blocking in my head cuz im not gonna edit items by hand if they're gonna be updated by machine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so are we deciding that is to be the base item and not gonna dump new dex into it ?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/#comment-83174 << item from ancient trilema "how about if there was some chick that got implanted ovules from right-to-life xtian women only and strictly to abort them 10 weeks in as a trolling thing"
asciilifeform: back to the baseline item ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740660 ) -- if mircea_popescu , diana_coman , spyked , ... ( who else we have ? ) would like to submit corrections/additions/subtractions -- plox to vpatch
asciilifeform: that's the surreal bit
asciilifeform: to make the one instrument of enstupefaction, they used enuff sweat to make ten of actual learning
mircea_popescu: it's the anglocurse.
mircea_popescu: much like they managed to turn banking system from system for achieving wealth to system for avoiding wealth.
asciilifeform: i find it interesting, entomologically, what the anglotards did with the idea of dictionary. they turned instrument ~for learning language~ into one ~for avoiding learning language~ -- the result is google's 'translate'
mircea_popescu: im not saying explainatory, esp because wtf is translatatory then.
mircea_popescu: rather -- no longer guaranteed to give brain damage.
mircea_popescu: but if explainy part provided, some perl on the side is no longer brain rotting.
asciilifeform: nao there is some devil in the details, namely what to do with linkages that aren't straight equivalence, b/w word-in-a and word-in-b
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ikr ? the previous set of globalists, with the tripod sites etc, promised lots of jules verne crap, went away like nothing.
mircea_popescu: which doesn't mean creeping featuritis, but ALSO does not mean "here's half of koschei's heart in lib.ru domain and other half buried way across buyan, in us.archive.org"
asciilifeform: no reason these should not all exist as 1 hyper-whatevertron.
mircea_popescu: ynot bridged together ?
asciilifeform: the english one, afaik, is 19th c, at least most recent as exists on www >> https://ia800500.us.archive.org/15/items/webstersunabridg29765gut/29765-8.txt << for completeness.
mircea_popescu: somehow a dictionary entry is the best way to distinguish men from idiots.
asciilifeform: prolly the best known one.
asciilifeform: there's a whole bunch of'em on www. asciilifeform has not formally collected, compared, yet.
mircea_popescu: got a gateway to latin and a gateway to the east, and the idiotic lingua franca of stupid people as the archimede screw for it all.
mircea_popescu: then you can ACTUALLY translate, for once.
mircea_popescu: anywauy, i didn't mean "same treatment" in the sense of ipaization, i meant same treatment in the sense of translaty/explainy flatfile.
asciilifeform: ( you can't write the loaned name in orc directly, so it gets properly phonized )
mircea_popescu: i can't think of one ; except for imports (see eg http://trilema.com/2010/care-sunt-iq-tau/#comment-123116 margot, read in ro in the french manner).
asciilifeform: the problem is typically common-use irregulars
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's try this. make up a girl's name and i'll tell you how it sounds in romanian. then diana_coman spyked alex_c whosoever else can confirm or infirm.
asciilifeform: dunno if 'se scrie cum se citeste' claim of ro is any moar troo than the ru 'как слышится так и пишется' truism
mircea_popescu: in the sense that the resulting code would be in itself an interesting knowledge pile.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as an aside : the "limba romana este singura limba care se scrie cum se citeste" ro linguistics dogmatics promises there's a workable ro-ipaize-tron somewhere. at least in the sense of "we could get 99% success rate". it IS a point of fact that ~any romanian speaker can correctly notate new words on the basis of sound, and this is PRECISELY the sort of artificial intelligence that's amenable to numeric methods.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to leave the pressure off : im still willing to go through it by line and improve as time permits, but there's no rush, so let's first make an optimal basis and see.
asciilifeform: ( the lisp folx, fwiw, largely finessed the orcogram problem before utf8 climbed down from the trees )
asciilifeform: rather than binturds
asciilifeform: well in sexpr they'd end up named, things like #\Alef
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can even put them as aside binary blob, as discussed re fg/bootturds etc. "you wanrt to see the orcograms, find item #x in list"
asciilifeform: i'd settle for getting the orcograms back in 'ro_eng'
mircea_popescu: so i guess we can skip the ipa bit for now
mircea_popescu: this would be (as per tradition / discussion yest etc) actually a very powerful item ~for the student of english~, too. even if he only spake english.
asciilifeform: The Trooo Ultimate Ro Dict prolly oughta be a sexpr
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 02:00 asciilifeform: caveat x2 : no îțâșă . but it was missing in the original, i did not remove it. ascii-only, in the derp's original, e.g. 'uşă' turns into 'usa'.
mircea_popescu: making you a major cultural player, in the vein of dead people.
asciilifeform: the one i genesised ? it's been de-orced, so to ipaize gotta be re-orced
mircea_popescu: now, i would much appreciate if you took the current bs and ipa'd it properly (it's not THAT hard, ro ipa set is narrow and unambiguous)
mircea_popescu: you could ALSO add the etymology notation as separate field, but can also leave it as is (part of the expl)
mircea_popescu: look at it, it's always separated in the definition, at beginning
asciilifeform: waitasec how to mechanize the ipa ?
mircea_popescu: the correct transform imo would be from your (word/dubious expl/engl equiv) into (word/proposed english equiv/ipa notation/proper dex expl). this can be done mechanically on the basis of the two items.
mircea_popescu: can readily replacve the middle column
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you gonna vpatch the new dict on the old btw ? or what's next step here ?
asciilifeform: ( re the 2012 piece )
mircea_popescu: there is unlimited responsibility bundled with unlimited power.
mircea_popescu: hey. don't make the call unless it's warranted.
mircea_popescu: specifically the "Si daca tot m-am enervat, sa facem si o regula : cine se casatoreste nu mai are dreptul sa fie dizident. Dizidenta e pentru barbati, nu pentru pulalai inscrisi in registru' reproductiv al neamului. Odata ce te-ai casatorit cu una ai terminat-o cu pretentiile si nemultumirile apropo de "orinduirea sociala". Nu mai ai ce sa comentezi, te inscrii acolo in ordine asa cum este ea si iti vezi de sters cacatu' de p
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, having a harem of galon-boobed females is the ~only sort-of get-out-of-jail-card for http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/ problem,
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 00:43 mircea_popescu: what complaint can there be had ? "starve to the light" is for teens, small children have no useful fat reserves.
mircea_popescu: anyway, getting briefly back to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1740875 : the importance of big boobs in women is exactly this : if you make the decision to forced march through desert, the offspring of A-cup camp followers will die ; DD and so forth will survive -- female body will melt the tit into nothing before letting kid starve, whole process driven by that one true whip of the female psyche, the child-dying-of-hunger
asciilifeform: ( even at the time, was obvious sufferer )
mircea_popescu: yes but rarely will a us born esl fellow wriote his angst under the correct piece.
mircea_popescu: well, archeologists of the future are welcome to resolve this, i ain't digging.
asciilifeform: in comments under the closing statement, iirc
asciilifeform: ( was interesting episode, the 'war of life' thing, where the entirely unrelated d00d went apeshit over its closing )
mircea_popescu: what complaint can there be had ? "starve to the light" is for teens, small children have no useful fat reserves.
asciilifeform: ( iirc d00d at one time toiled in the mines at microshit itself )
mircea_popescu: iac shack seems among the benign-est.
asciilifeform: not all brothel created equal tho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and that helps anything ? i'd rather marry the whore the brothel uses to advertise than a different, "secret" one.
asciilifeform: it is possible to work in the saeculum without having one's face plastered on a sad sack of sad rogue's gallery tho
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1740838 << i dunno, what explaining'd be there ? "they offered a job and i... took it". pretty sure his previous spot sucked arse, guy was getting stress blisters. family man, gotta provide, what.
mircea_popescu: good to have a blog, i routinely forget shit i did, then i end up confronted with it and im like... hey. pretty cool!
asciilifeform rereads the rsakeys trilema. stimulating.
mircea_popescu: and so, to get back to it, and in the words of the great nigger Hussein Bahamas, "if you did a thing you didn't do that thing". therefore matt blaze neither was touched nor could have been touched by anyone, be they john drapper or anyone else ; nor has matt blaze had published anything of any note, re ciphers or cooking or anything else.
mircea_popescu: connivance in usgtardation renders professional merit ~impossible~ and that's the final word on that matter.
asciilifeform: 'shakespeare or other man by same name' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: in no case may such be used to establish any kind of professional credentials for the designated x, y, etceteras.
mircea_popescu: that nsa chose to publish some derpage through usg.nsa.x-shithead or through usg.nsa.y-shithead is not a meaningful point of difference.
mircea_popescu: right so : usg remora. nothing any http://trilema.com/2015/more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations/#selection-413.0-419.38 / http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ "publishes" may be credited to them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the odd thing re blaze is that , unless there was a completely other matt blaze working for at&t -- he's the d00d with the only published attempt at a provably hard symmetric cipher , in 1990s
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 00:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740665 << amusingly, the 2015 trilema lulz re okcupid ( http://trilema.com/2015/okcupidcom-the-dating-site/ ) / his 2016 disappearance ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-13#1697386 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-27#1458351 ) match remarkably well ; which begs the question why say "keeping pretty busy" in preference of "wrote to IAC after you mock-exploited one of their 'properties' and got hir
BingoBoingo: In still other headlines of the interlanguage frontier: " Trump Tweets “I Should Have Left Them in Jail” About UCLA Basketball Players Arrested in China"
mircea_popescu: capcană = trap, generally in the physical sense. căpcăun = strange item, pluriously rendered as ogre, troll etc. basically ro folklore big bad. in all appearances direct survivor of greek antrophophagos.
asciilifeform: unless it's yet another falsecognate
asciilifeform: ahahaha the zoological reservation where e.g. 512bit rsa lives
mircea_popescu: (windows got a sort of monopoly for banking there, it's hysterical what stack they run)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you ever seen the "banking apps" of azns ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-27 03:01 mike_c: at least you won the 'most famous mircea popescu' award - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mircea+popescu
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740665 << amusingly, the 2015 trilema lulz re okcupid ( http://trilema.com/2015/okcupidcom-the-dating-site/ ) / his 2016 disappearance ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-13#1697386 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-27#1458351 ) match remarkably well ; which begs the question why say "keeping pretty busy" in preference of "wrote to IAC after you mock-exploited one of their 'properties' and got hir
BingoBoingo: Hong Kong, much Pinay diaspora, much OKc still. Prolly the demographic least sensitive to web design suck. Further proving the point of Namecheap's demise
BingoBoingo: You forget the entire Pinay diaspora farms it
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 14:51 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (apparently okcupid went full app-shit sometime in the interval also ?) << The website has increasingly little to hook, and is increasingly poorly populated. Last week Uruguay had 4 girls, now has 2. Extrapolating from Uruguay's 4 million population this means ~35000 girls is all okc has left. Been in decline for a while, but now fallen sharply.
BingoBoingo impressed by the afternoon's terse yet definitive proceedings
mircea_popescu: o thank you label of WHAT THE FUCK
mircea_popescu: but the label helpfully explains : con gingseng, carao (?!) y cuculmeca.
asciilifeform: aaah such good times, to have these things on own hdd! instead of wwwnonsense
mircea_popescu: in other wtfs, girl opens jar, a scent of paradise fills kitchen. i go over to investigate. the item is helpfully labeled : melaza. ie, molasses.
mircea_popescu: sql dump of the whole site.
asciilifeform: then nfi
mircea_popescu: besides, im pretty sure i saw all of these in ro printed matter.
mircea_popescu: but the coin item is VERY specifically related to apparatus that only existed in the 80s.
asciilifeform: i meant it was prolly considered 'unprintable' by the '80s prudes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all these are pre 1980.
mircea_popescu: it misses so many of the most trite expressions it's not worth mentioning as a dictionary anyway, much in the way a "map" of texas that only had dallas.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lots of good ones missing. "i-a picat fata" (his face fell off) ; "a dat cu mucii-n fasole" (he snotted the refried beans) ; "iti pica fisa ?" (does the coin inserted into your coinslot actually fall through the spuriously complex machinery inside your otherwise empty skull to make the necessary contacts ?) ; "a freca menta" (mintrubbing, absent ?! gimme a break!) ; "ai morcov [in fund] ?" (to have a carrot [up
asciilifeform: because apparently when caesar lived totally belongs, according to these folx, in a dictionary.
mircea_popescu: "12 este divizibil prin 2`12 is divisible by 2" holy shit. there are some useful expressions in the expression item, however a) very low snr, lots of useless crap and b) idiomatics not really a good fit for dictionary, much better fit in blog articles.
asciilifeform: might even be worth using the tech list as ~subtractand~
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 02:11 asciilifeform: e.g. ' ciclu format din atomi de carbon`carboatomic ring ' and the like.
asciilifeform: imho the 1st item was much too full of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740598 as it was
asciilifeform: ftr, how to flip one of these :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how many lines the expression item ? (tech i will asume worthl;ess sight unseen -- bot didn't write a ro tech dictionary and ~nobody else was qualified to)
asciilifeform: and ready for either genesisation or not
asciilifeform: in other pipeline, the 'proverbs' item is hopelessly bitrotten, i'ma jettison it. the 'tech' and 'expressions' otoh are ready, dedupped, and flipped ( so as ro->eng )
mircea_popescu: an antique and therefore reliable copy of the dex (dictionar explicativ al limbii romane). 80 mb's worth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a lulz for you : before making the fain@polimedia item discussed in logs recently ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730110 etc) i actually attempted a... ro dictionary full rewrite. was called "adex".
mircea_popescu: leveraged human thought to a degree not seen before nor, honestly speaking, conceivable without the example./
mircea_popescu: no court in the history of the legal profession ever managed the pinnacle of legal achievement on display here in this past HALF HOUR omfg.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:43 phf: we had a thread when diff was first discussed as a way to do patches (i think maybe before even v), where i was erring on the side of no unicode support on the grounds that if we decide to support unicode we have to, to borrow asciilifeforms, drink the whole spittoon
asciilifeform: ( it's still missing the îțâșă )
mircea_popescu: settled then.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-23 14:55 mircea_popescu: suppose we had a rule stating that "all patches must include as a comment the patch upon they are to be applied" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 18:25 mircea_popescu: as a general rule, people who can't produce genus/difference definitions for all the symbols in their own output are better off not thinking yet, as what they think thinking is isn't.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 21:51 mircea_popescu: so i joined the whores going to the gym. my first time in a gym at that! it was discovered that yes i'm a lot more powerful than they are, but i have neither the flexibility nor the endurance.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 21:11 asciilifeform: at the cost of a bit of log clutter, let's indulge asciilifeform's crackpottery, and lay out 妓 ( U+5993 : whore ) :
asciilifeform: recall the chinese thread