cazalla: i don't know how they could create an advertisement like that without at all being suspicious
    
    
    
    assbot: Oh, man. This is too sweet. http://t.co/2oMG2KYkPs /FreeTalkLive /sovryntech /S_Murphy_PhD /qntra /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets
    
    cazalla: they don't get it, i'm not claiming they ran the ponzi but assisted it and like andreas, they don't accept their foolish behaviour so it will happen again
    
    
    
    
    
    assbot: Buy Bitcoins! Fast, Easy, and Safe - expresscoin
    
    mircea_popescu: so basically what, "commercial immunity" ? we can make any add for satan himself, as long as we're getting paid ?
    
    BingoBoingo: Safer to make ads for satan. Recognizable brand. Customers know what they get when the Buy Satan.
    
    mircea_popescu: lol that's a point
    
    BingoBoingo: With the caveat that you only advertise for Satan under his own brand.
    
    BingoBoingo: Using the ponzi label when advertising a Ponzi anytime after the historical ponzi's bust... fine. Advertizing ponzi under any other brand like Pirateat40, not fine.
    
    decimation: " For example, in America, observed de Tocqueville, a book that does not make money – because it does not sell well – cannot be good, because the test of all goodness is money. And anything that makes a profit must be admirable in every way. I"
    
    BingoBoingo: !up Maryjane
    
    BingoBoingo: Hello Maryjane
    
    Maryjane: Hi
    
    Maryjane: :)
    
    xanthyos: hi
    
    BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts?
    
    Maryjane: Xan
    
    Maryjane: :)
    
    xanthyos: Maryjane is a bee expert
    
    Maryjane: Hehehe
    
    Maryjane: Yeah winter is boring
    
    mircea_popescu: o, srsly, you raise bees ?
    
    kakobrekla: 10000 elements in 60 seconds (166.67 elements/s)
    
    kakobrekla: wait no
    
    kakobrekla: 10000 elements in 21 seconds (476.19 elements/s)
    
    kakobrekla: :D
    
    kakobrekla: 833 e/s
    
    kakobrekla: not too shabby eh
    
    kakobrekla: 1k now
    
    decimation: asciilifeform: amusing story.  the moral: once a wasp - always a wasp until death or total victory
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    Maryjane: It's wintering season atm though
    
    decimation: apiculture is an ancient and honorable profession
    
    Maryjane: It's creation
    
    Maryjane: :)
    
    decimation: Maryjane: do you live in the usa?
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    decimation: what do you make of the panic with respect to the africanized bees coming from the south?
    
    Maryjane: It's over panicked
    
    decimation: seems to me that the main danger is letting neglected properties become fully infested
    
    Maryjane: Italians and carni's are what we raise here usually, but bees even African iced are highly adapted creatures. The African iced ones are forced into a place they don't thrive. It's like how the Russian bees don't do well here either
    
    Maryjane: Afrocanized*
    
    Maryjane: Pollen flow is very different
    
    decimation: I suspect the best 'solution' is to interbreed the africanized bees with other species and select against aggressive broods.
    
    xanthyos: and make the perfect broodwich
    
    Maryjane: Yes. They could. But that could go either good or bad
    
    decimation: how could it go bad?
    
    Maryjane: Because any breed can Africanize even italians or carnolians
    
    Maryjane: Or Caucasians
    
    xanthyos: sicilians are africanized italians
    
    decimation: interesting.  apparently the bees are are aware of the 'one drop' rule
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    Maryjane: They'll adapt by themselves
    
    Maryjane: They have since before our years
    
    Maryjane: I've worked with aggressive carnolians
    
    Maryjane: They made a new queen and she calmed the whole colony
    
    decimation: heh. interesting.
    
    xanthyos: !up Maryjane
    
    Maryjane: I like russian bees.
    
    decimation: apparently carniolan bees are from romania
    
    decimation: how are russian bees different?
    
    Maryjane: Their propolis production
    
    decimation: do you have problems with mites?
    
    Maryjane: Carnolians are great they originated in like the southern Austrian alps and Danube valley
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    Maryjane: Mites are always here
    
    Maryjane: Varroa
    
    Maryjane: We treat with powdered sugar to help that issue
    
    decimation: do the russian bees seem more resistant to the mites?  It appears the gov't thinks that's the case.
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    Maryjane: Their immune system is stronger against varroa than carnolians
    
    Maryjane: Italians are ok
    
    xanthyos: agreed!
    
    Maryjane: They aren't too bothered by varroa
    
    decimation: the russian sage in front of my home was filled with bees this summer, they are gone now
    
    Maryjane: We had epic basswood honey this yr
    
    xanthyos: r
    
    Maryjane: It was soo white
    
    Maryjane: The comb. Unf.
    
    decimation: have you seen colony collapse disorder?
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    Maryjane: The queen starts laying drones
    
    Maryjane: She gets weak
    
    xanthyos: do you think it's related at all to cell phone tower radiation?
    
    Maryjane: Could very well be
    
    Maryjane: It's also gmos
    
    decimation: eh, I think that theory is crazy.  much more likely is widespread pesticide us
    
    decimation: use
    
    decimation: cell phone radiation just doesn't affect things that much
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla elements ?
    
    Maryjane: Any man made pesticide will weaken their immune system but plant based is ok
    
    Maryjane: Bees actually use plants as pesticides
    
    decimation: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2014/05/09/pesticides-not-mites-cause-honeybee-colony-collapse/
    
    assbot: Pesticides, Not Mites, Cause Honeybee Colony Collapse - D-brief | DiscoverMagazine.com
    
    Maryjane: There's varying reason
    
    cazalla: i wanted to get into bees this spring but council regs won't permit it :\
    
    mircea_popescu: <decimation> apparently carniolan bees are from romania ?<< yeah.
    
    Maryjane: I treat
    
    Maryjane: 7000 lbs this yr but I worked commercially
    
    mircea_popescu: cazalla you need a permit to keep bees ?!
    
    Maryjane: We lost some due to wax moth damage
    
    decimation: Maryjane: do you move your hives long distances to pollinate?
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    cazalla: mircea_popescu, you need to register for a licence, another keep has to come check out your hive, hive cannot be within x distance of other homes plus others
    
    Maryjane: Well my boss did
    
    Maryjane: I personally just want my hives here
    
    mircea_popescu: nuts.
    
    Maryjane: My boss has bees in ga and California and vermont
    
    decimation: cazalla: the People continue to wage war on anything unusual
    
    mircea_popescu: back in romania, pretty much any old guy that's not a fucktard keeps bees
    
    Maryjane: That's a part of beekeeping
    
    cazalla: i could host the hive elsewhere but defeats the added benefit of having the bees in the backyard to help pollinate veg and fruit trees
    
    mircea_popescu: in the countryside i mean.
    
    decimation: Maryjane: in California for the almonds?
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    Maryjane: :)
    
    Maryjane: Almond Honey tastes like leather shoes
    
    Maryjane: Ew
    
    Maryjane: Lol
    
    decimation: yeah but almonds are delicious, I'm glad for the bees.
    
    Maryjane: Same
    
    Maryjane: Almond expenses go to ppl like me too
    
    Maryjane: So buy them lol
    
    Maryjane: Bees are extremely expensive both money and time wise
    
    decimation: mircea_popescu: I suspect that any farmer who actually plans on living on his own harvest is much the same
    
    decimation: the bees are worth their wage when they pollinate more efficiently than the alternatives
    
    Maryjane: Most hobbyists I know here cannot keep up with keeping the bees tho
    
    xanthyos: that would be a fun job; transporting colonies
    
    Maryjane: It is
    
    Maryjane: Especially down the Champlain valley
    
    xanthyos: and watching them interact with a stranger colony
    
    Maryjane: Mmf
    
    xanthyos: like first contact
    
    decimation: Maryjane: what are the main expenses?  seems to me you just need to harvest the honey every once in awhile
    
    Maryjane: 7 days a week
    
    decimation: for a small hive?
    
    Maryjane: U have to move brood and honey for expansion, clean out drone caps, treat and feed.
    
    Maryjane: U could lose a queen any day
    
    Maryjane: Should have more than 1 hive
    
    decimation: if the colony swarms?
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    Maryjane: Which u can save that colony from moving brood frames.
    
    Maryjane: From ur other colonies
    
    Maryjane: They'll draw s new queen
    
    decimation: so they swap places basically?
    
    Maryjane: Yes
    
    decimation: yeah I can see how this would pose some difficulties keeping track of what is going on
    
    decimation: !up Maryjane
    
    decimation: well I'm going to retire for the evening, thanks for the interesting conversation
    
    Maryjane: Same I'm sleepy :F
    
    Maryjane: Goodnight :)
    
    decimation: goodnight.
    
    kakobrekla: mircea_popescu requests per second
    
    kakobrekla: tcpdump port 80 | logtop
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.scmagazine.com/ssdp-reflection-ddos-attacks-on-the-rise-akamai-warns/article/377754/
    
    assbot: SSDP reflection DDoS attacks on the rise, Akamai warns - SC Magazine
    
    
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: [A Survey on Distributed Denial of Service Attacks, Tools, and Countermeasures]
    
    
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: [Intrusion Detection Techniques and Open Source Intrusion Detection (IDS) Tools]
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: [http://dangerousprototypes.com/2014/10/14/dirty-tuesday-chinese-shipping-apocalypse/
    
    mircea_popescu: <Maryjane> Should have more than 1 hive << generally about 60 to a hundred or two is what people keep
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aha
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they decided to "stop criminality" << not exactly. one set of criminals profits from every single penny of cc theft (bank) while another set (the sp4mz0r) gets to be made example of.
    
    asciilifeform: princeling - sins, whipping boy - grunts.
    
    mircea_popescu: notrly.
    
    asciilifeform: !s chargeback
    
    assbot: 40 results for 'chargeback' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=chargeback
    
    mircea_popescu: i don't think a princeling exists sharp enough to do any of this.,
    
    asciilifeform: mr t called this 'skin in the game lemma' or sumthinglikethat
    
    mircea_popescu: nah, it mostly feeds non-nato powers.
    
    asciilifeform: chargebacks.
    
    mircea_popescu: well, exactly how the loss is distributed inside the system is a diff story.
    
    mircea_popescu: fact remains, cc nonsense mostly bleeds cash out of the nato structure.
    
    asciilifeform: ru sp4mz0r steals cc #, charges 10k usd. on, e.g., 'amazon'; chumper reads his bill, complains, bank magically vacuums 10k+C (positive constant C, chargeback penalty) from 'amazon', plasma tv is nowhere to be found (drop house, magicked away)
    
    mircea_popescu: exactly.
    
    asciilifeform: this is permitted to exist in precisely this form - for a reason. this is bezzlatron's way of making folks who don't want $consumercrud - buy it whether want or not.
    
    asciilifeform: 'so you won't buy plasmatron for yourself, voluntarily, ok. you'll buy it for this derp.'
    
    asciilifeform: at 40% interest.
    
    mircea_popescu: sure, but that
    
    asciilifeform: then go 'prove you're not a camel'
    
    mircea_popescu: 's besides the point
    
    mircea_popescu: !up Maryjane
    
    Maryjane: hi :)
    
    asciilifeform: orcs pilfering the wealth of men is a thermodynamic inevitability - like waterfalls. but there's a clever bugger drinking the waterfall, to run with the metaphor.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all i can see from where im sitting is a closed system that constantly loses mass to the outside.
    
    mircea_popescu: its fate is quite clear, thermodynamically.
    
    mircea_popescu: it's not even "cash" properly that the enemy keeps taking out. it's straight value.
    
    Maryjane: Where are you people from? c:
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: i'm in laguna niguel
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: juicy - http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/
    
    
    
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    assbot: <keygen> - HTML (HyperText Markup Language) | MDN
    
    punkman: curious that this has been supported since v1.0 of FF, never seen it
    
    punkman: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/you-see-sneakers-these-guys-see-hundreds-of-millions-in-resale-profit/
    
    assbot: You See Sneakers, These Guys See Hundreds Of Millions In Resale Profit | FiveThirtyEight
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22792 @ 0.00074108 = 16.8907 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: ;;is up http://qntra.net/
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: ;;isup http://qntra.net/
    
    cazalla: no wai
    
    cazalla: Error establishing a database connection here RagnarDanneskjol
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: i saw
    
    cazalla: when i refresh, sometimes it's up, sometimes not
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: hmm
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: ;;isup qntra.net
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: aah no gribbl
    
    cazalla: logs flooded with requests for urls like http://qntra.net/index.php?-1121311141
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: bastards
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: !up ProgressUpdate
    
    ProgressUpdate: hey, reddit police here. gj with the new server for trilema / qntra
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: uh ok
    
    ProgressUpdate: you might like to know the wp attacks are launched from a VPS costing me no more than $10 monthly; such attacks are unable to fully take your server offline, but that doesn't mean we will stop trying ^.^
    
    cazalla: you are quite determined eh ProgressUpdate
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: whats the payoff?
    
    cazalla: why are you attacking the site anyway?
    
    ProgressUpdate: RagnarDanneskjol, i'd tell you if i can.
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: why cant you?
    
    ProgressUpdate: for now, it's not very smart for me to "GET MOAR BOTZ" against a specific, protected server, but there are many other targets. like the digitalocean vps hosting log.bitcoin-assets
    
    cazalla: what's the point though? i don't see what you stand to gain
    
    cazalla: i mean, i applaud your effort for the lulz but we're past that so what's your beef chief
    
    ProgressUpdate: or BingoBoingo's thedrinkingrecord, or cascadianhacker, contravex;; bitbet, waroflife, et al.
    
    ProgressUpdate: it's not even difficult to knock down *all* of the mpex proxies (at least the ones that have been publicly announced), but barely nobody except mireca_popescu's own bots use mpex anyway.
    
    ProgressUpdate: cazalla, obviously people dont do this for weeks without a reason
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: yea - really curious.  why these targets?  these guy sare good people, never did a thing to hurt anyone.. its like attacking puppies or slow lorises.  they come in peace
    
    
    
    assbot: Slow Loris eating a Rice Ball - YouTube
    
    ProgressUpdate: RagnarDanneskjol, quite ironically slowloris was one of the most effective HTTP DDoS attacks circa 2009.
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: i kno that
    
    cazalla: someone here fuck your mother/sister or something?
    
    punkman: something about saying bad things about reddit?
    
    cazalla: ProgressUpdate, i tell you what, you write up an article about the past few days and i'll publish it on qntra, that way people at least know what is going on
    
    ProgressUpdate: closing notes: mireca_popescu: mocking someone who attacks you for less than 1/20th your mitigation efforts cost is not the smartest decision. cazalla i'll think about it
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: are there any terms for surrender. ransom demands
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7139 @ 0.00073623 = 5.2559 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    ProgressUpdate: RagnarDanneskjol, lolno
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: cool. well carry on then, have fun
    
    ProgressUpdate: so, current target is thedrinkingrecord.com ;; don't worry, no matter how you try to mitigate we'll take you down eventually.
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: who else is on y'alls shit list these days?
    
    ProgressUpdate: we got cloudflare to kick off a enterprise customer ^.^
    
    ProgressUpdate: kthnxbai
    
    punkman: well the blogs are gonna be easy pickings
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: guess so huh
    
    punkman: so what does the random guy caught in crossfire do
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: duck for cover
    
    
    
    assbot: (I'm not actually Slayl0r on freenode. Sorry I didn't think anyone would actually check.)
    
    jurov: how is the chick related?
    
    jurov: !s Slayl0r
    
    assbot: 0 results for 'Slayl0r' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Slayl0r
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: not at all -just an amusing twitter page .  http://mashable.com/2014/10/17/taylor-swift-1989-secret-sessions/
    
    assbot: What It's Like to Hang Out in Taylor Swift's Living Room [VIDEO]
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2233203-the-go-to-play-taking-college-football-by-storm
    
    assbot: The Most Unstoppable Play in College Football | Bleacher Report
    
    gabriel_laddel: just in time for l33t wekend!
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: was that?
    
    
    
    assbot: Hacklet 19 – Ham Radio
    
    ThickAsThieves: bitbet down
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: seems to be infectious. like obola
    
    ThickAsThieves: while it may be cheap for this guy to do, it's gotta be consuming of other resources
    
    ThickAsThieves: time, opportunity loss, whatever
    
    ThickAsThieves: who did mp piss off in the days prior to qntra launch?
    
    ThickAsThieves: the yc ninjas?
    
    ThickAsThieves: gavin?
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: redtards mostly i sppose.  this is what happens when they impose minimum wage - too much idle time
    
    ThickAsThieves: he doesnt even troll reddit tho
    
    Apocalyptic: %d
    
    atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 328678.18 in 42 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.50
    
    ThickAsThieves: 42 blocks, then hacker points botnet at pool and diff stays same, hehe
    
    Apocalyptic: fortunately not :)
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: OH - I control that pool - heh. kind of forgot to check it, maybe on the target list too
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: ok pool looks fine
    
    ThickAsThieves: i guess we shouldnt be giving him any ideas, though the attack does seem mp-centric
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: yea - why I'm not posting the address again
    
    chetty: <ThickAsThieves> who did mp piss off in the days prior to qntra launch?//more like who didnt he piss off
    
    ThickAsThieves: i suppose, hehe
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: i remember a time when being provocative didn't cause ppl to get all butthurt..  wasnt that long ago.  I'm not that old
    
    chetty: yeah well no more provocative, now its offensive and you know we all have rights not to be offended
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: yea really
    
    
    
    assbot: George Carlin on Soft Language - YouTube
    
    chetty: nobody ever heard of ignore stuff you don't like, must fight back
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 391.78, Best ask: 392.97, Bid-ask spread: 1.19000, Last trade: 389.8, 24 hour volume: 8926.01397094, 24 hour low: 370.96, 24 hour high: 393.01, 24 hour vwap: 381.024286351
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00073761 = 5.0895 BTC [+]
    
    PeterL: so I converted that WASP pdf into a txt file http://btcscoop.com/WASP.txt
    
    PeterL: funny mistake by the pdf converter, l to an i: We've got to seize the initiative and get the
    
    PeterL: enemy fiat on his back while we beat the bejazus out of him.
    
    PeterL: it also made hard linebreaks out of all the line endings, is there an easy way to re-paragraphize a text file?
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: what is this? -i missed the convo. looks scifi skimming it
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: oh
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: got it
    
    
    
    assbot: Wasp (novel) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    
    PeterL: yeah, that
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19108 @ 0.00073793 = 14.1004 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: [PDF] http://www.researchgate.net/publication/240236789_A_new_theoretical_perspective_on_deception_detection_On_the_psychology_of_instrumental_mind-reading/links/00b4952e0bf2e2981f000000
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;isup qntra.net
    
    gribble: qntra.net is down
    
    mircea_popescu: orly ?!
    
    Apocalyptic: mircea, and so is trilema
    
    mircea_popescu: except not.
    
    mircea_popescu: i think the updown thing managed to get itself ip banned
    
    mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic pm me your ip too
    
    
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: confirmed - atc pool is down now
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: %d
    
    atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 328680.54 in 40 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.50
    
    mircea_popescu: onoes!!1
    
    Apocalyptic: so close
    
    mircea_popescu: what if it never makes it, you know  ?
    
    mircea_popescu: be like... oooooooooo
    
    kakobrekla: sup
    
    mircea_popescu: so basically now we have a spammer trying to claim this is all trolls everywhere else while pming everyone every week PLUS a script kiddie trying to claim we suck while pming everyone every week.
    
    mircea_popescu: there's also a camwhore from india that comes by periodically, but at least she has tits
    
    mircea_popescu: clearly, we're doing things wrong.
    
    RagnarDanneskjol: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: i guess, let's see, what else is there...
    
    mircea_popescu: next we'll have a patent troll right ? that's the one thing missing.
    
    mircea_popescu: maybe some concern trolling, tho that's kinda weaksauce-y
    
    PeterL: you want them to not come around, or just not be able to get in when they get here?
    
    mircea_popescu: no no, i'm fine as is
    
    mircea_popescu: was in no sense a complaint.
    
    PeterL: do you think the voicing model is succeeding at keeping cruft out?
    
    mircea_popescu: i think it's definitely succeeding at making it clear to the wanna-bes that they're wanna-bes, and that we're the stars, and what cocks to suck
    
    Namworld: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/fashion/how-apples-siri-became-one-autistic-boys-bff.html?_r=0
    
    assbot: Log In - The New York Times
    
    Namworld: TL;DR Siri helps autistic buy to learn to speak correctly by talking with him and providing data about his obsessions.
    
    mircea_popescu: the wringing and derpage is unavoidable, but they'll get in line alright.
    
    Namworld: autistic boy*
    
    nubbins`: maybe it's that guy who lost 10btc at bitbet ;p
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah, because if that guy could like, do things, he'd have waited for a year.
    
    mircea_popescu: what, he flipped burgers for the summer to save enough money to put a 10 bux downpayment on a derpy 5k botnet ?
    
    Namworld: I'd consider myself a wanna-be myself more than anything else...
    
    Adlai: the worst are the wanna-wannas, who don't even know what they wanna-be
    
    mircea_popescu: well, at a certain age it's just the usual stuff. access to resources, respect of peers, etc.
    
    mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic try now.
    
    mircea_popescu: and anyone know the ip of that isitdown service ?
    
    
    
    assbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
    
    
    
    assbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah but what's its ip
    
    Adlai: oh
    
    mircea_popescu: clearly it managed to get itself banned
    
    Adlai: looks like 50.97.161.229
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;isup qntra.net
    
    gribble: qntra.net is up
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;isup trilema.com
    
    gribble: trilema.com is up
    
    mircea_popescu: thanks Adlai
    
    kakobrekla: i think im banned again by both
    
    Adlai: np
    
    Apocalyptic: mircea, ty
    
    kakobrekla: ;;isup bitbet.us
    
    gribble: bitbet.us is down
    
    mircea_popescu: anyone else ?
    
    punkman: bitbet kinda slow, saw a couple 502 errors
    
    punkman: everything else seems ok
    
    kakobrekla: yes bb is being nuked
    
    kakobrekla: top - 16:27:39 up 315 days, 12:11,  1 user,  load average: 76.39, 72.95, 49.48
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla unbanned nao.
    
    kakobrekla: ty
    
    ThickAsThieves: what about banned humans not in this chan?
    
    ThickAsThieves: they have to wait for storm to finish?
    
    mircea_popescu: well, let's put it this way, if someone was making a shitton of requests right then but isn't in chan there's something seriously off with them.
    
    mircea_popescu: time to get in the chan.
    
    ThickAsThieves: i didnt make shitton
    
    ThickAsThieves: i cant see qntra
    
    mircea_popescu: can you see trilema ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: hanging...
    
    ThickAsThieves: nope
    
    mircea_popescu: myeah. well you can either pm your ip to whitelist or else get a diff one ?
    
    bounce: so how many makes a shitton of requests?
    
    ThickAsThieves: sure, i wa smore asking in the grand scheme
    
    ThickAsThieves: qntra will be IP whitelist only?
    
    mircea_popescu: bounce ima prolly revise the list, make it moar permissive.
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the entire world is whitelist only, in each and every aspect. there's no getting around this simple fact,
    
    ThickAsThieves: ...
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's ok you can answer me
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no dude, it's open.
    
    ThickAsThieves: i dont actually have a problem with a site being whitelist only, but that has its own problems
    
    chetty: I can see trilema from one system but not the other, same ip
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves theory aside, you gonna halp RagnarDanneskjol host the atc proxy by getting him a server ?
    
    bounce: referrer filtering? o_O?
    
    ThickAsThieves: first i've heard
    
    mircea_popescu: chetty now that's bizarre
    
    mircea_popescu: bounce neah.
    
    ThickAsThieves: atc proxy?
    
    chetty: and no I havent been making a lot of requests :P
    
    mircea_popescu: pool i mean sorry
    
    ThickAsThieves: well i could help fund it if that's what you mean
    
    ThickAsThieves: but i have no servers
    
    mircea_popescu: weren't you like an ubersuccessful trader last we left you ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: nor confidence to provide them
    
    mircea_popescu: get the man a server.
    
    ThickAsThieves: what's it cost?
    
    mircea_popescu: i have nfi ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: well he can ask me for help if he wants
    
    mircea_popescu: o.O
    
    ThickAsThieves: i'm not even sure whats going on in this regard
    
    mircea_popescu: ok, maybe i'm completely misreading this, but your strategy seems to be equal parts mixture of waxing poetic over how you have no serious stake in things and waiting for stake to ask you out.
    
    mircea_popescu: a) it just did, yo! and b) that's seriously not how it works. you want something, get it.
    
    ThickAsThieves: when did i say no?
    
    mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> well he can ask me for help if he wants << that.
    
    nubbins`: ThickAsThieves what, you don't think a whitelist-only news aggregator can make an income? ;p
    
    ThickAsThieves: well he can
    
    ThickAsThieves: i dunno what server, how much or nuthin
    
    mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/cum-gestionezi-abordarile-ghid-pentru-cetatencele-de-sex-opus/ << this is a misnomer btw,
    
    bounce: you givin' out VPSes or summat?
    
    mircea_popescu: it says "guide for citizens of the opposite sex", but it's not. it's universal.
    
    mircea_popescu: nubbins` isn't that the entire premise of the "secret report" biz ?
    
    nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> ok, maybe i'm completely misreading this <<< maybe 8)
    
    ThickAsThieves: first i even heard someone needed help with atc anything
    
    mircea_popescu: o.O
    
    bounce: !up progressupdate
    
    nubbins`: it's almost like the guy doesn't wanna dick around configuring a server :D
    
    mircea_popescu: nubbins` impossibru
    
    ProgressUpdate: thanks bounce. brb, making otc account.
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what's the score yet ?
    
    bounce: that's a start. I suppose you can say hello and stuff after.
    
    nubbins`: man has priorities
    
    nubbins`: wot first, hi later
    
    mircea_popescu: can't argue with that.
    
    nubbins`: !up fivezerotwo
    
    nubbins`: tide ya over for now
    
    nubbins`: ;;google 502 area code
    
    gribble: 502 Area Code 502 - Map, time zone, and phone lookup: <http://www.allareacodes.com/502>; Area code 502 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_502>; Reverse Phone Lookup – Number Directory for 1-502 | WhitePages: <http://www.whitepages.com/phone/1-502>
    
    fivezerotwo: 502 as in bad gateway :)
    
    nubbins`: ah :D
    
    ThickAsThieves: ive said it before and i'll say it again ftr, if someone wants to get paid to polish ATC wallet, packages, or has plans or needs some resoruces to provide infrastructure, services, or products related to ATC, i'm all ears. Just ask me directly and be reasonable. Note that I am no programmer, no hacker, so resources would be limited to funding/investment, project work, and maybe some
    
    ThickAsThieves: visual communication needs
    
    ThickAsThieves: it is writeen
    
    nubbins`: writeen
    
    bounce: love the punchline: http://wolfstreet.com/2014/07/21/russian-point-of-view-new-sanctions-wont-impress-putin/
    
    assbot: Russian View: Why Putin Is Not Impressed | Wolf Street
    
    
    
    gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve clearsigned data. Check your url.
    
    nubbins`: ;;bg
    
    gribble: Error: "bg" is not a valid command.
    
    nubbins`: wat
    
    nubbins`: ;;guide
    
    gribble: Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc
    
    fivezerotwo: ;;ident fivezerotwo
    
    gribble: Nick 'fivezerotwo', with hostmask 'fivezerotwo!~ProgressU@162.253.131.18', is identified as user 'fivezerotwo', with GPG key id D999E6FB8830F6F7, key fingerprint D77774FF9166856C68E656D0D999E6FB8830F6F7, and bitcoin address None
    
    fivezerotwo: kkk
    
    thestringpuller: okkk?
    
    thestringpuller: is devthedev trying to make his own qntra?
    
    fivezerotwo: thestringpuller, not like he's going to get anything with coinbr fees
    
    fivezerotwo: so. duh.
    
    nubbins`: fivezerotwo HI
    
    fivezerotwo: hello
    
    nubbins`: welcome
    
    nubbins`: what do you do?
    
    thestringpuller: "My team's goal is to provide the utmost quality publications and commentary regarding CryptoCurrencies. We came up with the idea to launch CryptoDeck because many other news sources focus solely on the generation of ad revenue and could care less what they're advertising, ultimately leading to low quality news."
    
    fivezerotwo: I ddos sites like bitbet.us
    
    ThickAsThieves: how much to hire you to do it back to whomever hired you?
    
    bounce: so they can care less. hm. and you can't? oh dear.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00073885 = 15.1464 BTC [+]
    
    fivezerotwo: a high figure that you won't pay
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;rate fivezerotwo 1 kinda derpy kid with a kinda derpy botnet.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user fivezerotwo has been recorded.
    
    nubbins`: fivezerotwo cool!
    
    ThickAsThieves: i'm asking outta curiosity mostly
    
    thestringpuller: how much are they paying you?
    
    fivezerotwo: ;;isup cryptodeck.com
    
    gribble: cryptodeck.com is down
    
    fivezerotwo: have this on us :)
    
    nubbins`: fivezerotwo how long you been ddosing sites?
    
    ThickAsThieves: dont know much about rates for your kinda service
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i can explain to you how to make "his kind of service" in about ten minutes. provited you've not read the logs to put it together yourself.
    
    nubbins` waits with rapt attention
    
    ThickAsThieves: yeah i'm just interested in some of the market aspects
    
    mircea_popescu: what, you serious nubsy ?
    
    nubbins`: nah
    
    nubbins`: never
    
    mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> is devthedev trying to make his own qntra? << no idea ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: whats a cryptodeck.com?
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, these attacks are sorta "what can you do with $10" experiment
    
    mircea_popescu: i have nfi omfg i feel old now
    
    nubbins`: i thought pankkake was trying to make his own qntra
    
    nubbins` chickles
    
    nubbins`: ^ similar to chuckling
    
    fivezerotwo: ThickAsThieves, shitty news site with shitty articles that is now down
    
    ThickAsThieves: hehe
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo figures.
    
    ThickAsThieves: cool
    
    ThickAsThieves: can you take down coindesk?
    
    mircea_popescu: cazalla did the dev kid ever send you a submission ?
    
    thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jjqjr/cryptodeck_has_now_launched/ << from our friend devthedev
    
    assbot: CryptoDeck has now Launched! : Bitcoin
    
    ThickAsThieves: and maxkeiser?
    
    thestringpuller: ;;gettrust devthedev
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014
    
    ThickAsThieves: and bitcointalk
    
    mircea_popescu: such dictatorship
    
    mircea_popescu: at least it'd have good logos...
    
    nubbins`: but if bitcointalk goes down where am i gonna sell my cas coins?
    
    fivezerotwo: remain assured that after i've maxed out the limits of this tiny $10 vps, i'll be actually attacking qntra.net / trilema.com / et al, for realz.
    
    ThickAsThieves: interesting
    
    nubbins`: fivezerotwo sweet, feel free to pop in with updates
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    nubbins`: can't go wrong with a bit of excitement
    
    mircea_popescu: buy some bitcoin, it'll do more for you.
    
    ThickAsThieves: it really wou;d be sweet to have you write a qntra posty
    
    ThickAsThieves: post*
    
    nubbins`: mircea_popescu maybe he gets paid in btc?
    
    ThickAsThieves: i suspect he's not being paid at all
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, i have plenty of btc, and we have plenty of btc.
    
    nubbins`: fivezerotwo you interested in writing an article about your motivations and techniques?
    
    ThickAsThieves: and he is the offended party
    
    nubbins`: o o o
    
    fivezerotwo: i'd sign you from an address with 1k btc if you'd pay me for mixer fees.
    
    nubbins`: offended!
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah, well, so can obama.
    
    nubbins`: obummer
    
    nubbins`: ThickAsThieves offended at what?
    
    mircea_popescu: not that hard to borrow a little these days. as part of all that "bitcoin wil never function as a world currency" etc.
    
    ThickAsThieves: seeing how much btc you have doesnt really get anyo9ne anywhere
    
    nubbins`: the continuous lels we all share together?
    
    mircea_popescu: nubbins` YES!
    
    nubbins`: oh wow
    
    ThickAsThieves: i assume offended, cuz this seems like spite
    
    thestringpuller: fivezerotwo: I know who you work for ;)
    
    ThickAsThieves: nothing to gain from taking down mp web presence
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what did she do last summer ?
    
    nubbins`: could be boredom
    
    fivezerotwo: nubbins`, maybe ;; mircea_popescu i think you'll find someone who can borrow 1k btc in the span of a hour to be similar
    
    nubbins`: there's only so much news a man can read in the run of a day
    
    ThickAsThieves: how much btc to get you to tell us what the problem is?
    
    nubbins`: i mean, in the long run, i don't think any of us give any particular fucks about the whole situation aside from the spectacle
    
    ThickAsThieves: yeah, i can still get my news from coindesk and reddit
    
    nubbins`: HEH
    
    ThickAsThieves: :)
    
    nubbins`: or, y'know, from the bloggers that feed qntra ;p
    
    nubbins`: i found /r/bitcoinserious yesterday
    
    ThickAsThieves: oh he's after them too tho
    
    nubbins`: oh, k.
    
    nubbins`: it's not updated as frequently, but they disallow memes and price discussion
    
    bounce: http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/10/17/2226200/the-one-app-you-need-on-your-resume-if-you-want-a-job-at-google ``The sexy job in the next ten years will be statisticians.'' -- given that it's gotten more often wrong than right... this is going to be a bit of a ride.
    
    assbot: The One App You Need On Your Resume If You Want a Job At Google - Slashdot
    
    mircea_popescu: 9: bank.kensavage.com << holy shit, the stuff that's in my logs!!1
    
    kakobrekla: ;;isup bitbet.us
    
    gribble: bitbet.us is up
    
    nubbins`: keeping an eye on it for a bit to see if it's worth reading
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo << to work!
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, oi, moved it to cryptodeck.com
    
    mircea_popescu: nubbins` so basically like here, except without all the advantages ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: omg whyyyyy
    
    fivezerotwo: back to bitbet it us
    
    fivezerotwo: ;;isup bitbet.us
    
    gribble: bitbet.us is up
    
    ThickAsThieves: such a cocktease already
    
    fivezerotwo: ;;isup bitbet.us
    
    nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'd liken it to reading the logs, but less pithy
    
    gribble: bitbet.us is down
    
    mircea_popescu: you ddosing gribble now ?
    
    fivezerotwo: how will otc survive without gribble!
    
    mircea_popescu: what is sort numeric again, -n ?
    
    nubbins`: altgribble, i guess :(
    
    nubbins`: brb jazz cig
    
    thestringpuller: what is a jazz cig?
    
    thestringpuller: is that when you smoke a cig like a jazz musician?
    
    PeterL: jazz cig is weed ;)
    
    thestringpuller: Hey that's a good term!
    
    thestringpuller: oh no bitbet is down!
    
    thestringpuller: ;;isup bitbet.us
    
    gribble: bitbet.us is up
    
    fivezerotwo: lmao
    
    fivezerotwo: cryptodeck is still trying to recover from the attack that ended 5 minutes ago https://cryptodeck.com/
    
    mats_cd03: hue hue
    
    fivezerotwo: ;;later tell devthedev your server sucks, and you're bad at writing. and why are you trying to proxy apache with nginx or something?!
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    mats_cd03: fresh drama today
    
    mats_cd03: n an active script kiddy in the wot
    
    mats_cd03: hallo thrrr
    
    mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 this one admits it, there's plenty otherwise.
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo how long have you been reading the logs anyway ?
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, years
    
    mircea_popescu: i guess im updating the "six months" thing.
    
    fivezerotwo: haha
    
    ben_vulpes: how can one tell how long a party'd been reading the logs?
    
    ben_vulpes: is the variety speak not an adequate filter anymore?
    
    PeterL: noobs sound nooby
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well he speaks that well enough.
    
    thestringpuller: !up fivezerotwo
    
    fivezerotwo: !up
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo you need to pm it to assbot
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, ah ty
    
    ThickAsThieves: nice swap bid 30d  0.2%/d 396,026.71
    
    ThickAsThieves: <+fivezerotwo> mircea_popescu, ah ty  /// such a polite attacker
    
    kakobrekla: maybe he has liabilities too
    
    mircea_popescu: lol and so the myth of the gentleman ddoser was born
    
    fivezerotwo: ;; later tell devthedev you suck. 26 Fernon Lane Palm Coast FL 32137
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    mircea_popescu: now and again sysadmins would find a red rose in teh cable tangle
    
    kakobrekla: whats next, give 100% of the ddos back if i ddos you with 25% ?
    
    mircea_popescu: lmao
    
    nubbins`: my sides
    
    ben_vulpes: i'd like my bw back plz
    
    fivezerotwo: lol. you guys aren't going to pay someone to stop ddosing, so i'm not going to bother
    
    punkman: so where does one host a blog that can take some abuse and won't cost $2k a month?
    
    fivezerotwo: punkman, maybe wordpress.com
    
    nubbins`: red rose in teh cable tangle << !
    
    ThickAsThieves: maybe we will pay, but'd probly require more than just stopping
    
    fivezerotwo: oh no, we'd kill it with layer 7
    
    mircea_popescu: bs wordpress.com
    
    mircea_popescu: let us centralize all the things!11
    
    ThickAsThieves: requirement would be turncoat
    
    mircea_popescu: lol tat wants an army
    
    fivezerotwo: heh
    
    nubbins`: lel
    
    nubbins`: yeah, let's all huck in on a ddos, guys
    
    nubbins`: WHERE DO I SEND MY COINS
    
    mircea_popescu: wait guise. the price is backed by lulz and drama right ? BUT THIS MEANS...
    
    ThickAsThieves: yep
    
    ben_vulpes scrambles for coins
    
    mircea_popescu: shiiit
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.89, Best ask: 394.56, Bid-ask spread: 0.67000, Last trade: 393.89, 24 hour volume: 7886.58498704, 24 hour low: 375.65, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 382.444409536
    
    ThickAsThieves: y'see
    
    mats_cd03: i left my coins in my other pants
    
    mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 can you at least sign with them ?
    
    chetty: whats this now, an arcade game?
    
    mats_cd03: yes
    
    ben_vulpes: btc is ultimate arcade game
    
    
    
    mircea_popescu: also with side scroller
    
    mircea_popescu: except upside down
    
    ben_vulpes: and its actually scrolling into a dimension you can't really percieve correctly
    
    nubbins`: A+++++++ sure plays a mean pinball would do business with again
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo so what do you do for a living anyway ?
    
    nubbins`: ben_vulpes 4th spatial!
    
    nubbins`: press x/y/z to swap it for the appropriate axis
    
    ben_vulpes: there was a vaporware around this, right?
    
    bounce: random x/y/z/t swaps?
    
    nubbins`: ben_vulpes i remember some video game demo
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes one ? infinity.
    
    ben_vulpes: t/u/v/w, but w/e
    
    
    
    assbot: Miegakure: A 4D puzzle-platforming game.
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: this game is impossible.
    
    nubbins`: made my brain feel weird
    
    bounce: y/m/c/k
    
    ben_vulpes: "i can't quit you"
    
    nubbins`: bounce +1
    
    nubbins`: incidencally, YMCK is what it should be fuckin called
    
    mircea_popescu: COLORS ARE NOT DIMENSIONS
    
    mircea_popescu: buncha acid fiends
    
    ben_vulpes: kek
    
    assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2S4P066.txt )
    
    nubbins`: !b 3
    
    ben_vulpes: it's just an arbitrary set of letters representing stuff...man
    
    ben_vulpes: nubbins`: that's the one.
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, too personal. i'll let you know that a significant amount of things I do is dox/ddos/hack (generally in that order)
    
    bounce: well, if going north goes black, you know who's been playing with the letters, eh
    
    kakobrekla: dox?
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah i was thinking. wut ?
    
    nubbins`: lel
    
    nubbins`: i hope i don't get doxed
    
    punkman: ;;seen pentester
    
    gribble: I have not seen pentester.
    
    fivezerotwo: hah. well, talking about dox more broadly. like mapping the target from all areas.
    
    mats_cd03: 11:21:02 <+fivezerotwo> ;; later tell devthedev you suck. 26 Fernon Lane Palm Coast FL 32137 << trying hard to impress #b-a
    
    mircea_popescu: is this dox thing like, going on violentacres and saying "listen mike, i know where yo ulive" ?
    
    mats_cd03: dis turncoat thing won't b hard after all
    
    mircea_popescu: well, if we had a coat, that is.
    
    fivezerotwo: mats_cd03, more like archiving it as i'm sure log.bitcoin-assets won't remove it
    
    mircea_popescu: it's not that reliable, it's lost lines before
    
    ben_vulpes: http://m.gpo.gov/plumbook/ << this is a pretty good example of how the ussa builds software.
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, more like "here's everything this guy does and have done, oh here's their gmail password"
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda why i linked it :)
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: different link
    
    nubbins`: somebody said there would be free coats?
    
    bounce: .oO( ``army protection racket'' )
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes o i c. right you are, nm. :p
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo kinda lulzy, that. all the "anyonymous" derpage is getting on my nerves.
    
    ben_vulpes: lol at your link and 'software' that's a decent joke albeit accidental
    
    mircea_popescu: :)
    
    fivezerotwo: but i haven't even got my LOIC out and getting 15 year old teenage girls to suicide on tumblr
    
    ben_vulpes: fivezerotwo: that's a waste of resources, dood
    
    ben_vulpes: you could have them making human pyramids instead
    
    mircea_popescu: hey, someone got the patience to hussle 15yos, more power to em.
    
    ben_vulpes: not the hassling, the suiciding
    
    mircea_popescu: incidentally, how did the "Dead babies" trope get to be such a big deal ?
    
    mircea_popescu: dead teenagers seems more apt.
    
    ben_vulpes: if you're going for max shock, dead niggers.
    
    ben_vulpes: dead feminists.
    
    mircea_popescu: dead really hot black teenagers
    
    ben_vulpes: dead $SACRED_COW
    
    mircea_popescu: this is fucking rare anyway, i'd weep for the loss.
    
    mircea_popescu: http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2006/12/sure-shes-gained-popularity-but-is-it-really-worth-being-snarky-like-violent-acres/ << decade old lolz.
    
    assbot: Sure, she’s gained popularity, but is it really worth being snarky like Violent Acres? | :Ben Metcalfe Blog
    
    mircea_popescu: "sure, life is good, but is it WORTH BEING MEAN!?!?!?!?!"
    
    mircea_popescu: fucktards.
    
    ben_vulpes: being mean is the point of life.
    
    bounce: why, yes, yes, it is totally worth being mean... if you're after drama for popularity.
    
    bounce: then again, not everyone relishes in drama.
    
    mircea_popescu: how about not giving a shit about spurious and extraneous categories idiots use to classify the world
    
    mircea_popescu: in their doomed but hopeless quest to make it feel ok ?
    
    bounce: that too can yield fine drama
    
    ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> undata: a smart cult with an anti-govt streak would try to remain unnoticed <<< which fails to explain why the us govt is not taking better care of staying out of our way. << "smart"
    
    mircea_popescu: ah yes.
    
    ben_vulpes: what's the background on "scientologists raped the usg in the 70s" claim?
    
    mircea_popescu: "Applying Growth Hacking to a Book (and to getting ahead)  October 14, 2014  4 Comments  I just put up a 5,000 word breakdown of the campaign for Growth Hacker Marketing for the New York Observer. " << dude these people...
    
    mircea_popescu: they hacked the growthboxen
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;google scientology infiltrated the usg stole fbi irs and other secret paperwork
    
    gribble: Serpo « Reality Uncovered: <http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/category/serpo/>; BUNKER SPECIAL: David Touretzky on L. Ron Hubbard, Mark - The ...: <http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/01/bunker-special-david-touretzky-on-l-ron-hubbard-mark-twain-and-mary-baker-eddy/>
    
    Adlai: they could've done things so much more interesting while they were in there
    
    Adlai: instead they were just all "hurr durr let's read about ourselves because we're most important"
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai which dovetails neatly in the hitler, kennedy and herr braun discussion yest.
    
    ben_vulpes: neat stuff.
    
    asciilifeform as usual slept through choicest lulz
    
    asciilifeform: and here's one more.
    
    asciilifeform: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/10/17/executive-order-improving-security-consumer-financial-transactions
    
    assbot: Executive Order --Improving the Security of Consumer Financial Transactions | The White House
    
    mircea_popescu: wait.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.17133181 BTC to 16`307 shares, 7183 satoshi per share
    
    mircea_popescu: ahahaha what the fuck, THIS is executive order matter now ?!
    
    asciilifeform: fuhrers steps in some dogshitte. 'executive order, dogs shall shit in prescribed vessels...'
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.09444684 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 443 satoshi per share
    
    mircea_popescu: dude seriously ?! the land of the free, of the brave ? the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?
    
    mircea_popescu: reduced to this ?!
    
    mircea_popescu: "With this tailwind working for us, Charlie and I hope to build Berkshires per-share intrinsic value by constantly improving the basic earning power of our many subsidiaries" truly.
    
    asciilifeform: and this - http://7online.com/health/memorial-for-ebola-victim-held;-obama-opposes-cutting-off-west-africa-/351170
    
    assbot: US can't cut ties with Africa due to Ebola, Obama says | 7online.com
    
    mircea_popescu: lol because africa is important somehow ?
    
    ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/488885766001410048?s=09 << amusing honesty
    
    assbot: 68% of Americans think elections are rigged. http://t.co/duqMRiV8x9
    
    bounce: we've seen that before. "because colonialism"
    
    mircea_popescu: but it ended, no ?
    
    mircea_popescu: i could see if it was still a colonial empire, "britain can not be cut itself from the diamond in its crown"
    
    
    
    assbot: Logged on 12-10-2014 01:09:30; xanthyos: http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/10/cnn-panelist-we-cant-cut-flights-to-liberia-over-ebola-because-of-slavery/ << political correctness will be the end of us all.  an avoidable plague will soon be upon us because of bureaucracy and cowardice
    
    asciilifeform: not bureaucracy, not cowardice. deliberate.
    
    ben_vulpes: the secret fuhrer again?
    
    asciilifeform: well, the cowardice of the praetorian guard, who presumably think they'll all be assigned choice bunks in the mountain bunkers.
    
    mircea_popescu: nobody is this amusing deliberately, sorry.
    
    mircea_popescu: what is this, carlin the president ?
    
    asciilifeform: well, he did appoint a lawyer/lobbyist to head the new dept. of obola.
    
    asciilifeform: so clearly we are intended to laugh. while bleeding from various pores.
    
    mircea_popescu: basically americans will be like women, except all over ?
    
    asciilifeform: that'd be interesting. if someone, pulls, like rabbit out of hat, a 'cure' that resembles the aids one
    
    asciilifeform: stabilizes victim into a state similar to this.
    
    asciilifeform: whether or not nero actually fiddled while rome burned - here we have an entire symphonic orchestra.
    
    asciilifeform: !up fivezerotwo
    
    fivezerotwo: oh, i was de-voiced as I got a cloak
    
    fivezerotwo: ty
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: pray tell, why is scarcely anyone writing crapware worth reading (polymorphers, proper exe infectors, p2p c&c mechanism, etc.) ?
    
    asciilifeform: used to be - so many educated folks at work
    
    fivezerotwo: the ones that are decent don't get popular
    
    asciilifeform: well, aren't distributed as spam payloads, yes
    
    asciilifeform: but one would imagine an infector would turn 'popular'
    
    ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> undata not just. houses too, if you build brick walls on concrete pillars... wtf is going to burn ? << http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/CEB_Press
    
    assbot: CEB Press - Open Source Ecology
    
    mircea_popescu: <fivezerotwo> the ones that are decent don't get popular << no, im sure he has it. they're "not user friendly"
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: or did you mean to say that they don't become popular in the sense of being imitated ?
    
    mircea_popescu: not in the way batch file wrapped putty is.
    
    fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, heh, very much
    
    fivezerotwo: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu said it better. not user friendly
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "Sorry This video does not exist." but thank you for your contribution :D
    
    fivezerotwo: you don't design a gui when a CLI interface will do better.
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: try w js?
    
    
    
    assbot: The CEB Story 2012. on Vimeo
    
    mircea_popescu: noty. im sure you can make sand fucking burn, at the cost of ten thousand bezzlars a gram of burnt sand
    
    asciilifeform: theremite is cheap.
    
    mircea_popescu: but i've also set places on fire, and the repairs consist of repainting the walls.
    
    ben_vulpes: no no no, wrong takeaway
    
    ben_vulpes: guy's built and published the plans for a compressed-earth brick maker
    
    mircea_popescu: isn't that a stupid use of topsoil ?!
    
    mircea_popescu: i mean, you make bricks out of clay rather than cernosiom for a reason
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: why not take the time to grow your 5k into 500k with an improved virulent payload?
    
    mircea_popescu: (reason being, you can't plant trees in clay)
    
    ben_vulpes: gotta dig the clay out and make the bricks
    
    fivezerotwo: asciilifeform, there's also a bit of brain drain with the more clever ones choosing to work with a vendor instead
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: i think the thing is pretty ambivalent to input media
    
    mircea_popescu: the clever ones find better lines of work than ddosing noobs.
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phact. when i came to usa, though 'what desolate martian land is this' upon finding earth to be red instead of чернозем.
    
    asciilifeform: *thought
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some parts of the us are shitty like that.
    
    ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> anyone giving me even money on undata being a chick ? << i'll take it
    
    mircea_popescu: not all tho.
    
    fivezerotwo: meanwhile the dumbest ones get hired at intelligence agencies developing state sponsored malware
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you're late :D
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: yes
    
    fivezerotwo: see: flame. 20MB, lolwhat
    
    ben_vulpes: i know
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: what a waste of perfectly good 0day!
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo but dude! the bandwidths keep expanding 50% a year! by 2024 it'll be fine!
    
    mircea_popescu: gotta invest in the future!
    
    chetty: <asciilifeform> whether or not nero actually fiddled while rome burned - here we have an entire symphonic orchestra.//+++++
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: though these folks aren't necessarily clinically stupid, any more than microshit employees are. just managed by the 'differently abled' with particular objectives that don't include elegance.
    
    mircea_popescu: it's really not that symphonic
    
    bounce: such appreciation of the fine arts in here today
    
    mircea_popescu: more like an entire cacophonic orchestra.
    
    asciilifeform: arse tubas.
    
    fivezerotwo: it's like all the bad phishing emails with bad spelings and incorrect grammer. two reasons
    
    bounce: you're just tone deaf
    
    mircea_popescu: ahahaha zing
    
    mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo that's in the logs.
    
    fivezerotwo: 1) people who can write convincing emails don't write phishing emails
    
    fivezerotwo: 2) people who'll fall for phishing scams will fall for it anyway with obvious typos
    
    mircea_popescu: nah, it's a selection mechanism.
    
    asciilifeform: no one suggested, so i will - the mutilated words are convincing precisely because mutilated. target is - clinical imbeciles.
    
    mircea_popescu: !s spam typo
    
    assbot: 0 results for 'spam typo' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spam+typo
    
    mircea_popescu: hm what was it ?
    
    mircea_popescu: !s spam misspelled
    
    assbot: 2 results for 'spam misspelled' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spam+misspelled
    
    mircea_popescu: there we go
    
    fivezerotwo: heh.
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: other thing is, the gov-sponsored crapware doesn't really need to spread. installed by a bribed/threatened/turned man inside the enemy target. so no need to 'keep a slender figure.'
    
    asciilifeform: spreading is in most cases a minus there. a human being might turn it up and publish reversing, sooner than author would like.
    
    fivezerotwo: asciilifeform, that's true, but it shows that it's a product of brute force instead of talent.
    
    mats_cd03: rofl
    
    asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: brute force << yes, it is. i've met folks who have toiled in the fuzz farms.
    
    fivezerotwo: oh yes, fuzzing is quite different
    
    mats_cd03: l0l
    
    asciilifeform: usg employs enormous numbers of these wretches. usually through subcontractors.
    
    mircea_popescu: Fuzz & Fur Farm, LLC is an alpaca farm located in Fort Wayne
    
    asciilifeform: lol!
    
    ben_vulpes: worst part of ddos is noise in assets logs.
    
    ben_vulpes: and y'all complain of tib and mor.
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes gotta keep the logs user-friendly.
    
    ben_vulpes: best response to ddos is to...not notice.
    
    ben_vulpes: ah funny ddos story
    
    fivezerotwo: kakobrekla, not bad mitigating (if that was you)
    
    fivezerotwo: here's round 2.
    
    fivezerotwo: ;;isup bitbet.us
    
    gribble: bitbet.us is down
    
    ben_vulpes: client recently pushed a change to their frontend app that changed the rate at which the js called the backend
    
    asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what did you pay this fine fellow for the heat test?
    
    ben_vulpes: with no safety checks or timeouts or anything
    
    mircea_popescu: oh, involuntary self-ddos is best ddos
    
    ben_vulpes: cascaded into a whole-site-takedown
    
    fivezerotwo: ben_vulpes, national bank?
    
    ben_vulpes: i asked nicely for a staging environment so that we could keep working when they do this in the future
    
    ben_vulpes: fivezerotwo: now why would you think that?
    
    fivezerotwo: well, something very similar happened to one. their "IDS" ended up dropping everyone that signed in.
    
    mats_cd03: in other news, windows internals 7th edition is available for preorder
    
    ben_vulpes: "hey you live in new york? cool! do you know this other random guy i met one time?"
    
    ben_vulpes: "no."
    
    asciilifeform: mats_cd03: what's new in 7th?
    
    kakobrekla: asciilifeform nothing, maybe someone else i taking the bill.
    
    kakobrekla: is*
    
    asciilifeform: kakobrekla: you must remember to thank him when he's done.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's got a +1, what more.
    
    mats_cd03: windows 8.1 coverage, i think.
    
    mats_cd03 has yet to completely finish 6th
    
    asciilifeform: mats_cd03: ah yes, the winblows which no one runs.
    
    fivezerotwo: kakobrekla, ya. ;; i'm off now, later.
    
    mats_cd03: fry cook shift comin up?
    
    kakobrekla: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: oh b-a Y U SO MEAN
    
    mats_cd03: im sorry, dont ddos me bro
    
    ben_vulpes: feelsgood.png
    
    mircea_popescu: lmao
    
    mircea_popescu: i dunno, i mean noisy or not shit's pretty lulzy.
    
    ben_vulpes: subjective
    
    ben_vulpes: i prefer ancient history
    
    ben_vulpes: "kistmet", etc.
    
    mircea_popescu: kismet ?
    
    mircea_popescu: maybe the problem here is that i don't spend nearly eno0ugh time with teenaged/young adult males. so to me all sort of shit's funny that most everyone else has had it with up to here
    
    bounce: so go teach at the local highschool?
    
    mircea_popescu: i am, except it's a private institution
    
    ben_vulpes: ya, typo.
    
    mircea_popescu: and it includes corporal punishment
    
    bounce: but no males
    
    mircea_popescu: myeah. male kids seem naturally inclined to convince themselves that the stick's to be avoided.
    
    mircea_popescu: girls have more sense.
    
    thestringpuller: mircea_popescu surrounded by angst
    
    thestringpuller: that would be a good premise for a tv show or somethin
    
    thestringpuller: surrounded by angsty teens**
    
    mircea_popescu: i don't think any sort of mp reality show can be on tv
    
    thestringpuller: i imagine it'd be like bender's show
    
    thestringpuller: bender should not be allowed on television!
    
    mircea_popescu: i dunno how that goes
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;isup bitbet.us
    
    gribble: bitbet.us is up
    
    mircea_popescu: wait, wasn't this supposed to be down ?
    
    mircea_popescu: what bs service is this scam ddos.
    
    mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/ << so meanwhile apparently THIS happened
    
    assbot: I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell (2009) - IMDb
    
    
    
    thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: he's just aiming for qntra and trilema
    
    mircea_popescu: danielpbarron anythng good ?
    
    
    
    
    
    assbot: Tucker Goes to Campout, Owns Duke Nerds «  TuckerMax.com
    
    
    
    thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
    
    gribble: qntra.net is up
    
    thestringpuller: stop lying to me
    
    thestringpuller: %tslb
    
    atcbot: Time Since Last ATC Block (#46329): 1 hour(s), 21 minutes
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;isup trilema.com
    
    gribble: trilema.com is up
    
    mircea_popescu: what, srsly ? don't see em ?
    
    thestringpuller: am I ipbanned again?
    
    mircea_popescu looks
    
    
    
    mircea_popescu: totally my bad thestringpuller BingoBoingo
    
    BingoBoingo: Shit happens.
    
    mircea_popescu: sysadmin warned me about amateur sysadmining, but hey, it looked like too much fun.
    
    mircea_popescu: speaking of which, you ever had to do a highly qualified job while the boss' teenage kid sits right behind you going o let me drive the plane let me let me!!1
    
    mircea_popescu: because that's kinda how this went, with me being my own teenaged son. total mindfuck on the poor professionals involved.
    
    BingoBoingo: prolly
    
    mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you know "attax" failed when people start suspecting they're self inflicted based on the end result.
    
    mircea_popescu: but i tell you, it's just the kiss of good management that makes things look that way.
    
    mircea_popescu: !up opusorange
    
    
    
    mircea_popescu: I had a chance to hear Tucker Max talk about the movie at a screening and he seemed quite confident that it would surpass Wedding Crashers as the highest grossing comedy of all time. After seeing the movie, it became quite clear that he was completely delusional.
    
    mircea_popescu: This movie was absolutely hysterical. Remember when Alan accidentally gave his friends roofies thinking it was Ecstasy
oh Sorry about that, I was accidentally reviewing "The Hangover," which is what "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell" is without the funny, wit, good writing, and personality. I want to do a compliment sandwich with this movie, but the reality is that I cannot give any because there's none to give. So I'l
    
    mircea_popescu: l just get into it: This movie is bad. Not offensive bad. Let me repeat: NOT OFFENSIVE BAD. Bad bad. This is the Battlestar Gallactica of comedy. The plot is hackneyed and worn out and executed poorly. The characters are so boring and mundane. There's no character development. There are attempts at it, but it falls flatter than William Hung's face. Remember that William Hung reference folks, because it's as obscure and
    
    mircea_popescu: obsolete as the jokes in the movie.
    
    mircea_popescu: dude this sounds like the worst movie ever. i'm watching it.
    
    assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/006Z008.txt )
    
    thestringpuller: !b 1
    
    Adlai: if you like bad movies, you must someday watch The Core
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: oh the core
    
    ben_vulpes winces at the memory
    
    asciilifeform: https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pscindx.htm << 'movies' section for memorably bad physics in film
    
    assbot: Science, Pseudoscience, and Irrationalism
    
    asciilifeform: !s steve dutch
    
    assbot: 0 results for 'steve dutch' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=steve+dutch
    
    asciilifeform: eh.
    
    thestringpuller: asciilifeform: this does read like a KGB playbook (wasp)
    
    asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it's an everybody-with-brain playbook
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9727 @ 0.0007382 = 7.1805 BTC [-]
    
    thestringpuller: 'makes me wanna be a spy
    
    kakobrekla: to anyone who has any parsers or whatever on bitbet or any b-a service i suggest pming me your ip to get on the whitelist
    
    mike_c: pm kakobrekla add me add me!
    
    kakobrekla: sure
    
    mthreat: kakobrekla: the search.b-a crawler is one
    
    asciilifeform: thestringpuller: note that, for all the poetic license of the tale, it is very clear that wasp needs a support network.
    
    asciilifeform: just like soviet partisans did (this aspect, naturally, was not emphasized in the children's books.)
    
    thestringpuller: no spoilers!!!!
    
    asciilifeform: this is a spoiler for what, page 3.
    
    thestringpuller: I'm just being silly.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37519 @ 0.00073928 = 27.737 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: "Confidence: I was not lacking in confidence beforehand, but add a bullhorn and I became superhuman. It was like having a gun, except better. Walking around with a bullhorn gives all the authority of a gun, without any of the toolishness or danger of it accidentally discharging in your sweatpants. People just assume youre in charge and defer to you."
    
    mircea_popescu: this shit probably works, in the us of a.
    
    mircea_popescu: either a bullhorn or a clip pad thingee
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00074113 = 24.939 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    thestringpuller: !t m s.mpoe
    
    assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00073564 / 0.00073862 / 0.00074211 (586720 shares, 433.36 BTC), 7D: 0.00073316 / 0.00073805 / 0.00074368 (8320567 shares, 6,141.07 BTC), 30D: 0.00073316 / 0.00074402 / 0.00075684 (24347793 shares, 18,115.42 BTC)
    
    thestringpuller: such stability
    
    thestringpuller: kakobrekla: are logs still down?
    
    kakobrekla: if someone cant open the lawgs ping me
    
    mircea_popescu: check this shit out : www.jstor.org/stable/20008753
    
    mircea_popescu: "Throwing Like a Girl: A Phenomenology off Feminine Body Comportment. Motility and Spatiality*. Iris Marion Young. Department of Philosophy, Miami University."
    
    mircea_popescu: rug muncherz be doing phelosoplee nao!
    
    
    
    mircea_popescu: books and teeth, what more could one look for in a woman. spatial motility and whatchagot there.
    
    mircea_popescu: she lived to be 57, apparently becoming a woman doesn't REALLY extend one's life expectancy.
    
    bounce: it was the looks that did her in
    
    mircea_popescu: bitch seriously built a career out of quoting irigaray
    
    mircea_popescu: and her career was "normative review of public policy"
    
    mircea_popescu: ie, telling bureaucrats what they should be shoulding and how they should be shoulding.
    
    cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla did the dev kid ever send you a submission ? <<< a couple but i believe he's moved on
    
    mircea_popescu: aha aite.
    
    decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I was going to raise that point with you
    
    decimation: the 'wasp' model is more-or-less a pointless suicide mission for a lone wolf
    
    mats_cd03: welfare science...
    
    decimation: mircea_popescu: people like her run the 'ideas' side of usg
    
    mircea_popescu: hardly any ideas there.
    
    decimation: right, which is why the 'triumph' of her generation is obama - who gave us slightly more health-centered welfare
    
    mircea_popescu: from what i see the quality of health services decreased abruptly past decade.
    
    decimation: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2835288/h-1b-fraud-may-cost-you-your-car-and-gorgeous-contemporary.html
    
    assbot: H-1B fraud may cost you your car and gorgeous contemporary | Computerworld
    
    decimation: texas gave up actually proving that these guys committed fraud; just took their stuff
    
    mircea_popescu: i have no idea why they don't just out and confiscate private property.
    
    mircea_popescu: they learned nothing from history ? do it in one go.
    
    decimation: do it all at once, rather than one at time you mean?
    
    mircea_popescu: well yes. even the greeks have this noted down : if you're going to murder, rape, pillage your own polis,
    
    mircea_popescu: do it all in one go then restore order
    
    mircea_popescu: this slow drip one today, one tomorrow thing will get you overturned.
    
    mircea_popescu: but anyway, i guess the greeks "don't understand how the world works"
    
    mircea_popescu: because us libtards do.
    
    decimation: 'ah-hocism'.  We dug ourselves in a giant hole - let's dig faster.
    
    chetty: <mircea_popescu> i have no idea why they don't just out and confiscate private property.//they do all the time
    
    mircea_popescu: no but i mean all of it.
    
    chetty: well first off what private property is there?
    
    chetty: anything they can just take whenever doesn't really qualify as private property does it?
    
    decimation: chetty has a point.  at the root of much lib-tardism is the redefinition of concepts against natural law
    
    chetty: a system contrary to natural law will not stand, nothing else is possible.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5482 @ 0.0007382 = 4.0468 BTC [-]
    
    BingoBoingo: !up only
    
    BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
    
    BingoBoingo: !up jacoblyles
    
    decimation: mircea_popescu: apparently chomsky's  linguistcis peers have discovered that he's an idiot http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9381705&fileId=S0022226714000061
    
    assbot: Cambridge Journals Online - Journal of Linguistics - Abstract - A Galilean science of language
    
    BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0PUHkPIYAIxBKj.png << machines present lies
    
    cazalla: tempted to bust out an emulator, save state and try each box
    
    decimation: "Second, Ebola is actually a difficult disease to catch.  It's not transmitted through the air like the flu.  You cannot get it from just riding on a plane or a bus.  The only way that a person can contract the disease is by coming into direct contact with the bodily fluids of somebody who is already showing symptoms.  I've met and hugged some of the doctors and nurses who've treated Ebola patients.  I've met with an Ebola patient
    
    decimation: who recovered, right in the Oval Office.  And I'm fine."
    
    decimation: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/10/18/weekly-address-what-you-need-know-about-ebola
    
    assbot: Weekly Address: What You Need To Know About Ebola | The White House
    
    decimation: well, then, that puts things to rest
    
    decimation: cazalla: probably would be simpler to reverse-engineer the code
    
    mircea_popescu: dude if obama gets fucking ebola...
    
    BingoBoingo: Really will be obola
    
    decimation: "Finally, we can't just cut ourselves off from West Africa, where this disease is raging."
    
    BingoBoingo: decimation: Because he works for Big Chocolate
    
    decimation: by 'cut ourselves off' he means 'allow unrestricted travel into the us from the region'
    
    mircea_popescu: lol why not ?
    
    decimation: the entire gdp of liberia is less than the market cap of bitcoin
    
    mircea_popescu: seriously, anyone got a good reason why west africa can't just be glassed ?
    
    mircea_popescu: what's the loss ?
    
    mircea_popescu: can anyone name any thing, of any type or kind, that ever in the history of humanity came from west africa.
    
    decimation: most 'people' who live there have already found means to leave
    
    mircea_popescu: anything at all.
    
    decimation: the ancestors of detroit?
    
    mircea_popescu: i don't mean disease, weird pseudomedical garbage, etc etc. i mean, something noteworthy.
    
    mircea_popescu: name a great west african for that matter.
    
    decimation: charlest taylor?
    
    mircea_popescu: kinda my point.
    
    mircea_popescu: so "cutting ourselves off" ? how about there's no good argument against simply burning it to the ground.
    
    mircea_popescu: dat overton window.
    
    decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29  "171  Liberia $1,491 mn"
    
    assbot: List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    
    mircea_popescu: if the discussion was a proper, "well, do we burn it to the ground or just forget about it", the sanity of embargo would emerge
    
    bounce: chocolate; lots of cocoa coming from ivory coast (which did get its name for a reason)
    
    mircea_popescu: decimation look, it makes almost enough to buy watsapp.
    
    mircea_popescu: in 20 years.
    
    decimation: lol
    
    decimation: maybe it can save up
    
    mircea_popescu: bounce wait, the one thing those people will be remembered for is... a plant ?
    
    mircea_popescu: fucking vegetable country huh.
    
    bounce: oh bananas, those too
    
    mircea_popescu: cocoa will grow fine a dozen other places.
    
    decimation: once the us tried to send the slaves back to liberia
    
    mircea_popescu: it's not from eurasia anyway
    
    decimation: the repatriated slaves immediately enslaved the locals and began running plantations
    
    mircea_popescu: doh
    
    decimation: which more-or-less worked until that became politically incorrect
    
    bounce: ``Although workers' wages in Africa are lower than almost all countries in Latin America, [banana] production costs remain relatively high. This is mainly due to the lack of adequate infrastructure (road networks, communications and maritime transport) and variable quality due to climatic issues.''
    
    decimation: right, which is my point about the 'quarantine' . it's not like the us is making any money off of liberian trade, quite the opposite
    
    decimation: so obama needs to make the argument why one extra obola death is worth having, given the ease of avoiding the possibility
    
    decimation: no one is saying westerners who want to go help can't go
    
    bounce: too many westerners "helping" there as is
    
    mircea_popescu: that's kinda the problem tho
    
    mircea_popescu: pretty much everyone in washington is somehoe connected to a bezzle thing that runs on "helping" west africa
    
    mircea_popescu: so obviously washington can't just tell these people to gtfo
    
    decimation: mircea_popescu: indeed.   but even then, they could make exceptions to whatever ban they make
    
    bounce: which means that just about any ban is useless from the start
    
    
    
    decimation: well, if a westerner becomes infected, it's on them to make arrangements to prevent further transmission
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00073564 = 28.2486 BTC [-]
    
    decimation: not that there's any way of enforcing that, what with the health-care related welfare and whatnot
    
    chetty: <decimation> well, if a westerner becomes infected, it's on them to make arrangements to prevent further transmission//yeah that nurse did a good job flying to and from ohio
    
    decimation: chetty: apparently she asked the cdc if it was okay and they said 'yes'!
    
    decimation: I feel sorry for those whose god is usg - he constantly stabs his followers in the back.
    
    decimation: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/15/cdc-officials-confirm-they-told-dallas-ebola-patient-it-was-ok-for-her-to-fly-even-with-low-grade-fever-report/
    
    assbot: CDC Officials Confirm They Gave Second Dallas Ebola Nurse Permission to Fly  Even After She Called to Report Fever | TheBlaze.com
    
    TheNewDeal: quiz question - who did btctc?
    
    decimation: wasn't that related to the asicminer stuff?
    
    TheNewDeal: yeah and other stuff https://sites.google.com/site/surfcapitalmgmt/security-research/btctc---amc-pt
    
    assbot: BTCTC - AMC-PT - Surf Capital Mgmt
    
    decimation: burnside?
    
    TheNewDeal: gotcha
    
    decimation: https://btct.co/ "Ethan Burnside BTC Trading Corp"
    
    assbot: BTC-TC: BTC Trading Corp
    
    TheNewDeal: didn't have a significant presence in the wot ? http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=burnside
    
    assbot: Rating Details for User 'burnside'
    
    BingoBoingo: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d04c674377a644cc9270cadaedaf4893/police-another-ambush-suspect-sighting-reported
    
    assbot: Police: Another ambush suspect sighting reported
    
    cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/10/incoin-promises-to-liberate-your-payroll/ come back penguirker
    
    assbot: Incoin Promises To Liberate Your Payroll | Qntra.net
    
    ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[;;ticker]]
    
    gribble: Error: ";;ticker" is not a valid command.
    
    ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[ticker]]
    
    gribble: Error: "Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.92, Best ask: 395.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 393.54, 24 hour volume: 7747.75851176, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.898564439" is not a valid command.
    
    ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[ ticker ]]
    
    gribble: Error: "Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.92, Best ask: 395.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 393.54, 24 hour volume: 7747.75851176, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.898564439" is not a valid command.
    
    mats_cd03: struggle bus
    
    mats_cd03: ;;calc 0.03 * [ticker --last]
    
    gribble: 11.8314
    
    ben_vulpes: thanks mats_cd03
    
    ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 392.96, Best ask: 393.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 393.0, 24 hour volume: 7807.32067083, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.998359226
    
    mats_cd03: changing your btc buying habits ben_vulpes?
    
    cazalla: Surf Capital still around eh "Surf Capital Management is responding to a voluntary inquiry from a United States federal regulatory body. More information will be posted as it becomes available. "
    
    cazalla: prepare your angus
    
    kakobrekla: what
    
    kakobrekla: i suspekt he made that shit up
    
    
    
    assbot: [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
    
    BingoBoingo: !up The20YearIRCloud
    
    mats_cd03: wouldn't it be 'performing a voluntary inquiry in response to a ...'
    
    mats_cd03: what is this english.
    
    The20YearIRCloud: Hi
    
    mats_cd03: Hi
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00073564 = 14.7128 BTC [-]
    
    ben_vulpes: Hi
    
    ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: well you see i am an utter pauper
    
    ben_vulpes: can only afford hundredth-coin buys
    
    mats_cd03: ill give you 0.03 if you put a sharpie in your butt
    
    ben_vulpes: starfish is worth a sight more than that
    
    mats_cd03: exploding offer
    
    ben_vulpes: slowly heating's supposed to do the trick
    
    kakobrekla: >As always, additional information can be obtained by calling +1-855-483-2776.
    
    kakobrekla: does he charge to call that line?
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;seen burnside
    
    gribble: burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 12 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 38 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <burnside> lol
    
    mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal ^
    
    mircea_popescu: if you search the log you'll see he got called out numerous times.
    
    mircea_popescu: cazalla are they still loving the neobee brick and store whatever ?
    
    mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i suspekt he made that shit up << hey, that coinfire guy sure impressed everybody with similar claims, right ? so now it's open season.
    
    kakobrekla: dunno
    
    kakobrekla: maybe he got the idea from buttstamp
    
    mircea_popescu: dc: "hey mp, you know you have a server here that's been sorta-ddosed for a day straight ?"
    
    kakobrekla: heh my boys didnt even ping me this time
    
    mircea_popescu: mp: "yeah, send mullenweg my poetries"
    
    xanthyos: is that why logs were down last night?
    
    xanthyos: http://www.heathershumaker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ITSOK_cover-Final-May-199x300.jpg
    
    BingoBoingo: %d
    
    atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327547.03 in 35 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.56
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00073549 = 1.9123 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    kakobrekla: xanthyos if you read them you will know :)
    
    xanthyos: i want to get maryjane in the wot but she doesn't even currently own a laptop, just an android phone
    
    kakobrekla: well lucky for her, RSA can be done with pen and paper ?
    
    xanthyos: heh
    
    kakobrekla: ill buy her a lappy if she does it
    
    xanthyos: heh i just read a bit on that and it's beyond her math skills
    
    kakobrekla: aww
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42566 @ 0.00073756 = 31.395 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    asciilifeform: kakobrekla: RSA pen & paper << about the same as muscle-airplane. yes, possible.
    
    asciilifeform: kakobrekla: no, you don't want.
    
    kakobrekla: not even just once?
    
    asciilifeform: kakobrekla: go for it. brush up on trachtenberg or whatever similar system you prefer.
    
    kakobrekla: the idea was for maryjane to do it and score a solution while finding the solution
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00074226 = 14.5112 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1715 @ 0.00074189 = 1.2723 BTC [-]
    
    ben_vulpes: http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/english-version-could-be-a-damaged-russian-submarine_4023511.svd
    
    assbot: English version: Could be a damaged russian submarine | SvD
    
    ben_vulpes: "This time it was encrypted but it was possible to determine the position of the transmitter and the reciever." << how would the latter part be possible?
    
    Adlai: holy shit
    
    Adlai: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/06/bad-day-bad-patents-supreme-court-unanimously-strikes-down-abstract-software
    
    assbot: Bad Day for Bad Patents: Supreme Court Unanimously Strikes Down Abstract Software Patent | Electronic Frontier Foundation
    
    Adlai: how was i unaware of this for so long
    
    BingoBoingo: Adlai: Because it takes further fucking around in the lower courts for a few decades to see how it will actually be interpreted. And eventually another case if 50 years to address the matter again... Provided the institution is still there to address it in 50 years.
    
    Adlai is wondering whether any part of scalpl counts as 'patentable' under this new precedent, ie, more than just adding a computer into an existing practice
    
    kakobrekla: ben_vulpes triangulation?
    
    ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: please explain to me how you triangulate a receiver.
    
    kakobrekla: i suspekt it was two way com
    
    ben_vulpes: bidirectional
    
    ben_vulpes: mkay
    
    kakobrekla: just a guess
    
    ben_vulpes: hardly just a receiver then.
    
    ben_vulpes: but w/e/
    
    kakobrekla: mhm
    
    Adlai: xanthyos: …beyond her math skills « so just compile it to within her math skill,
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26489 @ 0.00074213 = 19.6583 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: I miss having pankkake on our side http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/18/nlcs-ended/
    
    assbot: NLCS Ended | Bingo Blog
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 390.52, vol: 6961.29402073 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 383.781, vol: 4777.18617 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 389.4, vol: 11886.13927131 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 389.962033, vol: 82268.71320000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 395.79193, vol: 0.95977536 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 395.56, vol: 26.51499854 | Volume-weighted last average: 389.65831411
    
    BingoBoingo: !up GodHatesFigs
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00073647 = 14.177 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    Adlai is on nobody's side, because nobody is on his side
    
    Adlai: BingoBoingo: gak what is this, it's like qntra but not
    
    BingoBoingo: Adlai: Personal blog. Cazalla adapted my css for Qntra
    
    Adlai: good artists copy, great artists adapt
    
    BingoBoingo: Just not as high performance as Qntra's version because BG image instead of just BG color
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30139 @ 0.00074079 = 22.3267 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: So it looks like the great excessive bounty of tomatoes is going to end tomorrow. It's supposed to frost. Probably ought to pick the green ones and fry them.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00074213 = 3.3396 BTC [+]
    
    BingoBoingo: !up themediator
    
    BingoBoingo: !up cardigm
    
    BingoBoingo: So, looks like the Dosing started already tonight. Bingo Blog is under
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;isup thedrinkingrecord.com
    
    gribble: thedrinkingrecord.com is down
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71100 @ 0.00073595 = 52.326 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    thestringpuller: someone is attacking bingo blog now?
    
    thestringpuller: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/11120639/Facebook-drones-the-size-of-jumbo-jets-to-soar-17-miles-up.html
    
    assbot: Facebook drones the size of jumbo jets to soar 17 miles up - Telegraph
    
    BingoBoingo: Well, they did this morning for just under an hour according to the lawgz
    
    BingoBoingo: !up MiningBuddy
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00074213 = 2.5232 BTC [+]
    
    BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Oh, its back nao
    
    ben_vulpes: here's an interesting nugget
    
    
    
    assbot: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!    libdb4.8 libdb4.8++  - Pastebin.com
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Building bitcoind?
    
    BingoBoingo: And bdb continues to suck dick, but less enthusiastically than alternatives?
    
    ben_vulpes: yup.
    
    ben_vulpes: hm should i be doing this on debian 6?
    
    ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: specifically, 0.6.3 from source.
    
    BingoBoingo: Do it on whatever, just build everything from ports.
    
    BingoBoingo: Mac OS has ports, right?
    
    ben_vulpes: nah, that's not what i'm doing.
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: macos is its own crazy problem that I'm not about to impose on anyone.
    
    ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'm building a container with docker, and a cursory search turned up no docker base image for openbsd.
    
    BingoBoingo: What about the real Unix based Macintosh operating system A/UX
    
    BingoBoingo: OpenBSD doesn't Docker. not well at least
    
    BingoBoingo: !up TomServo
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Maybe try Funtoo?
    
    
    
    
    
    gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docker | Nickname or brand name for pants, usually the orginal khaki color. Dockers brand is Levi Strauss & Co's business/casual line, marketed to middle-aged, ...
    
    TomServo: BingoBoingo: Gracias.
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;ud docking
    
    gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking | docking. The act of placing the head of ones penis inside the foreskin of another's penis. David and Patrick enjoyed docking immensely because of Patty's ...
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust assbot TomServo
    
    gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask TomServo!sewandsew@airportsecurity.junktouch.org. Trust relationship from user assbot to user TomServo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=TomServo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=TomServo | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:39:46 2014
    
    
    
    BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well the Slacks to Khakis transition happened for a reason...
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Are you building bitcoind on lucid?
    
    ben_vulpes: wheezy
    
    ben_vulpes: considering using squeezy
    
    ben_vulpes: because that was released ca. 2013, roundabout when 0.6 came out
    
    BingoBoingo: Well prolly unsafe to use Uncle Jessie
    
    BingoBoingo: Oh after 15 minute reprieve thedrinkingrecord is down again
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Why are you using Ubuntu packages for Debian builds?
    
    ben_vulpes: aforementioned libdb4.8-dev
    
    ben_vulpes: but uh
    
    ben_vulpes: good question
    
    BingoBoingo: Why not just rip the source from Sun/Oracle?
    
    BingoBoingo: Don't they have a signed tarball?
    
    BingoBoingo: I kind of doubt Debian is going to have the pubkeys to verify Ubuntu packages
    
    BingoBoingo: Unless you bring those in first
    
    ben_vulpes: that's precisely what i was banging into.
    
    BingoBoingo: Really?
    
    ben_vulpes: mhm
    
    BingoBoingo: Seems like what docker does to people.
    
    BingoBoingo: Bludgeons them with other concerns so they can't see the obvious through the bruises
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;ud sound docking
    
    gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking | The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking.
    
    BingoBoingo: Also why was I getting cheap vodka all of this time when I could have been getting cheap grain alcohol?
    
    ben_vulpes: pahahahaha
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00073858 = 14.033 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: I mean seriously, if I want to get drunk on flavor x, why was I tainting the experience with extra water from the vodka?
    
    BingoBoingo: Also... a lesson in fighting below your weight class http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11723353/lance-leipold-wisconsin-whitewater-warhawks-becomes-fastest-coach-100-wins-ncaa-history
    
    assbot: Lance Leipold of Wisconsin-Whitewater Warhawks becomes fastest coach to 100 wins in NCAA history - ESPN
    
    BingoBoingo: !up DoctorBTC
    
    Namworld: Bingo... I already saw the term docking... so when I saw that sound docking, let's say I got a picture of someone inserting his penis inside a speaker. And not an advanced form of docking ._.
    
    Namworld: Seriously, wtf... That's fucked up. I don't even want to know how that could possibly work.
    
    thestringpuller: oh god
    
    thestringpuller: stop scarring people for lyfe
    
    BingoBoingo: Namworld: Well pencildick exists as a slur for a reason. You have to assume dicks that thin actually exist.
    
    Namworld: 3spooky5me
    
    mircea_popescu: speaker ?! wut ?
    
    thestringpuller: My girl still claims her ex had a 3 inch penis or something.
    
    Namworld: Docking... into sound system. Sound docking.
    
    Namworld: Well seeing something out of context can conjure weird images.
    
    ben_vulpes: so i'm not a a c professional by any stretch of the mind - where do the obj/*.o files come from?
    
    thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: gcc -c
    
    thestringpuller: basically .c files are compiled into binary .o files
    
    ben_vulpes: thanks, thestringpuller
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: .o is what files compile to on less bad OS's
    
    thestringpuller: LOL
    
    BingoBoingo: Similar to how OSS is the best *nix sound server
    
    BingoBoingo: http://www.kpho.com/story/26737161/500-lb-body-causes-fire-at-henrico-crematory << Biodiesel, literally
    
    assbot: 500 lb. body causes fire at Henrico crematory - CBS 5 - KPHO
    
    mats_cd03: ;;ud sounding
    
    gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sounding | The practice of inserting plastic or metal 'sounds' (long thin and very smooth objects) into yours or someone elses uretha. Ultimately leads to str...
    
    mats_cd03: huk
    
    
    
    assbot: Beavis & Butt-HeadS06E141 - The Mystery Of Morning Wood.avi - YouTube
    
    thestringpuller: any beavis and butthead fans
    
    xanthyos: ya
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00073846 = 9.5261 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: Missed it by a few years
    
    PeterL: bingoboingo, I've almost got a replacement for penguiker ready
    
    BingoBoingo: PeterL: Awesome
    
    BingoBoingo: !up drawingthesun
    
    BingoBoingo: %d
    
    atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327605.70 in 30 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.56
    
    thestringpuller: %tslb
    
    atcbot: Time Since Last ATC Block (#46338): 0 hour(s), 21 minutes
    
    kakobrekla: PeterL if you are going to do it, make the syntax 'New blog post on $sitename by $author: $url"
    
    PeterL: ok, I think I can get all that in
    
    kakobrekla: i was just going to assimilate it into assbot but go ahead :)
    
    
    
    assbot: Who To Blame When You Get Ebola:  A CDC Guide For Healthcare Workers
    
    BingoBoingo: In 20 years, assbot does everybot job
    
    BingoBoingo can't wait for S.ASS
    
    PeterL: how does assbot make money?
    
    BingoBoingo: !Up scoopbot
    
    kakobrekla: PeterL BingoBoingo has a sekrit plan?
    
    thestringpuller: !up ninja_alt
    
    thestringpuller: kakobrekla: i still can't get to logs
    
    thestringpuller: :(
    
    BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Nah, I don't have plans.
    
    decimation: apparently debian is going to 'discuss' the possibility of getting rid of systemd again https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html
    
    assbot: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems
    
    kakobrekla: well there you go.
    
    BingoBoingo: !down ninja_alt
    
    BingoBoingo: !up RagnarsBitch
    
    BingoBoingo: decimation: Not get rid of, but allow alternatives too.
    
    decimation: "allow"
    
    BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, make sure all packages work with other init systems too.
    
    BingoBoingo: So OpenRC in ur Debian
    
    decimation: I don't see so much evil behind what redhat/poettering is doing as much as just steering the boat toward their interests
    
    decimation: redhat wants to make an osx clone for the desktop, and a virtual machine distribution for servers
    
    BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, poettering/rh basically wants to cut down the number of distros so they can be an Apple
    
    BingoBoingo: !up ninja_alt
    
    decimation: precisely.  what is interesting is that we see the same pattern of action that we saw with the iphone
    
    decimation: pre-iphone there were a variety of hardware devices, post-iphone there are only iphone clones
    
    decimation: this is roughly how 'independent' linux distributions operate
    
    decimation: "However, de Tocqueville came to the opposite conclusion: that in few places could one find ‘less independence of mind, and true freedom of discussion, than in America’. Trusting that the system was fair and just, Americans simply gave up their independence of mind, and put their faith in newspapers and so-called ‘common sense’."
    
    scoopbot: New blog post: http://blog.btcscoop.com/this-is-just-a-test-ignore-this/
    
    assbot: This is just a test, ignore this | BTC Scoop Blog
    
    scoopbot: New blog post: http://blog.btcscoop.com/infinitely-inflating-stock-s-qntr/
    
    assbot: Infinitely inflating stock S.QNTR | BTC Scoop Blog
    
    scoopbot: New blog post: http://blog.btcscoop.com/browser-defaults/
    
    assbot: Browser Defaults | BTC Scoop Blog
    
    
    
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    decimation: woah
    
    PeterL: hmm, that didn't work like I wanted, bleh
    
    mats_cd03: this looks familiar
    
    thestringpuller: close!
    
    PeterL: let me work on that
    
    ben_vulpes: booting is the first edge case
    
    ben_vulpes: write some tests
    
    ben_vulpes: :P
    
    PeterL: sorry about the spam, I'll get it working in a different channel
    
    thestringpuller: #bitcoin-assets-development
    
    thestringpuller: lol
    
    decimation: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/tso-and-linus-and-the-impotent-rage-against-systemd/
    
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    mircea_popescu: whoa w3ho made the scoopbot ?
    
    PeterL: me
    
    PeterL: well, making
    
    PeterL: still working on it
    
    mircea_popescu: pretty cool
    
    BingoBoingo: decimation: At this rate Linus is going to become a NetBSd dev
    
    mircea_popescu: hahahah
    
    BingoBoingo: NetBSD because he knows he can't beat Theo in a profanity war
    
    BingoBoingo: And might as well boot all the hardware
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: ll buy her a lappy if she does it << meat ?
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai: holy shit << what part was surprising ?
    
    mircea_popescu: they already had said they will through every available channel.
    
    kakobrekla: mircea_popescu priorities!
    
    mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo:  I miss having pankkake on our side <<< which side is he now ?
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: here's an interesting nugget <<< time to dig
    
    BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's gone rogue? But not friendly to us. I think something about pete jsut rubs him the wrong way.
    
    mircea_popescu: dude i dun see it. so guy did some work at some point, then got busy or w/e, dropped the code
    
    mircea_popescu: what is the fault we find here ?
    
    BingoBoingo was actually excited about Scientific Linux 7 until he saw them bring in systemDevil from upstream
    
    decimation: yeah I'm not interested in redhat7 for that reason
    
    BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No fault in pankakke. Just seems busy and the "run old working software" party line seems to set him off.
    
    BingoBoingo: I miss his troll persistence though.
    
    mircea_popescu: well so not everyone agrees with everything.
    
    BingoBoingo: No, they don't
    
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    BingoBoingo: Dayjobs I guess do weird things to people
    
    mircea_popescu: myah.
    
    BingoBoingo: So it looks like tonight thedrinkingrecord is getting all the DOS
    
    mircea_popescu: how's that working out ?
    
    decimation: lol https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/415 << the systemd people tried to get Linus to accept a patch where the 'debug' kernel command argument would be silently removed from userspace, because it would trigger systemd spamming errors so badly that it wouldn't boot the system
    
    assbot: LKML: Steven Rostedt: [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline
    
    BingoBoingo: Well, the site goes down, but it is shared hosting on dreamhost still so it doesn't get more expensive for me.
    
    BingoBoingo: I just file support tickets and frontline support derps about how they don't see a DOS
    
    mircea_popescu: decimation did he tell them just how fucking drunk the whores of their mothers must have been to fuck the donkeys that fathered them ?
    
    mircea_popescu: and you know THAT is not the because.
    
    mircea_popescu: the because is that they made it deliberately spammy and unbootable, because they don't want that flag.
    
    decimation: heh unfortunately no " Key, I'm f*cking tired of the fact that you don't fix problems in the code *you* write, so that the kernel then has to work around the problems you cause."
    
    mircea_popescu: close enough.
    
    decimation: yeah, basically they don't want the users to have an easy way to expose how buggy their shit is
    
    mircea_popescu: not just.
    
    mircea_popescu: it's gonna get buggier. but more interestingly so.
    
    decimation: linus and his wot are pretty much the only thing standing between 'linux' and 'redhat hat kernel!!'
    
    BingoBoingo will prolly pick up the next OpenBSD CD's... wishes OpenBSD saw the wisdom in an actual fundraiser so Bob Beck could code and not disappoint the firsted biggest donor
    
    mircea_popescu: decimation yup.
    
    mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo take heart in the secure knowledge that never was there a shortage of sexual congress where there were healthy men and young sluts present. and while the young sluts were never in question, bitcoin generated plenty of healthy men.
    
    mircea_popescu: through which metaphore i am suggesting, of course, that coders are whores and money is a penis.
    
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    BingoBoingo: !b 2
    
    asciilifeform: them's whores & money's the clap.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. see, you're jaded.
    
    mircea_popescu: not all cocks are contagious.
    
    asciilifeform: ehe.
    
    mircea_popescu: it goes on a cock by cock basis, i tell you!
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Money's merely a Candida. In right forms it prevents gangrene. In wrong forms it is worse than any cancer.
    
    mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo technically speaking children are kinda like ovarian cancer...
    
    mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Why are you using Ubuntu packages for Debian builds? <<< zing!
    
    BingoBoingo: Uterine cancer. If the pregnancy goes ectopic and they become a uterine cancer... They ought to be punished early so as to not become a child
    
    asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 500 lb. body causes fire at Henrico crematory << one time i spent an evening reading cremator manuals (for no particular reason. happened to stroll by a modern crematory on evening walk in new street, was curious.) every manufacturer has special instructions for the peculiarly fat 'clients.'
    
    asciilifeform: main danger, as i understand, is that their combustion will: create a visible plume of smoke. or, the ultimate catastrophe, 'auschwitzy' smell.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The one my father visited cautioned against too well built coffins. The wrong wood and wrong body can take up to a week.
    
    asciilifeform: in usa, most locales will impose serious fines or even yank cremation license for this.
    
    mircea_popescu: on my way to school in jr high (i walked, bout a mile) i went on a road that went by the medical school's campus' crematorium
    
    mircea_popescu: it smelled like burned people at least twice a week.
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: My girl still claims her ex had a 3 inch penis or something. << these exist.
    
    decimation: in usa it must be pretended that no one is fat or dead
    
    BingoBoingo: First stint of grad school best parking place for plastic car was near med school body storage. Smelled freon often, formaldahyde yes, bodies... never. Curse of the USA is its surface area.
    
    mircea_popescu: PeterL: how does assbot make money? << occasional donations i guess
    
    decimation: asciilifeform: I was speaking with a fellow who had to rube-goldberg engineer a crazy 'biologic' breakdown system for mustard gas, because the envirocultists refused to allow simple incineration of the stuff
    
    mircea_popescu: but that's the approach. burn it in pure oxygen
    
    BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: I was speaking with a fellow who had to rube-goldberg engineer a crazy 'biologic' breakdown system for mustard gas, because the envirocultists refused to allow simple incineration of the stuff << Disolve in vegetable oil, emulsify with albumin, condiment that passes spec in Ohio
    
    decimation: every molecule is precious when it comes to the environment!!
    
    mircea_popescu: decimation: pre-iphone there were a variety of hardware devices, post-iphone there are only iphone clones <<< this is because current crop of ruminants are idiots, believe in the myth of "the best"
    
    mircea_popescu: consumer electronics however is not comensurate with os.
    
    asciilifeform: decimation: french method also works (sink to the bottom of the atlantic, with 1kg trotyl per 1kg of shell)
    
    decimation: http://www.hcn.org/issues/106/3348 << "Vincent, chairman of the Sierra Club's Environmental Quality Strategy Team, says the Army should invest in technologies that will be useful to private companies, rather than wasting time and money on incineration: "It is unconscionable for the military to be investing in dead-end technologies that nobody else wants." "
    
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    asciilifeform: ^ now with gasenwagen shots.
    
    decimation: asciilifeform: re: ambulance << yep: http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/inside-presidents-armored-limo << "What's in the trunk? Extra weapons, a separate oxygen supply under the president's seat and emergency medical equipment, including bottles of the president's blood type in case the ambulance (one always travels in the motorcade) gets cut off."
    
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    asciilifeform: aha so same as brezhnev.
    
    decimation: asciilifeform: I have witnessed similar 'convoys' in wash dc.  It's amusing to see how the "sovereign people" are so easily herded away from public areas
    
    BingoBoingo: !up mats_cd03
    
    asciilifeform: this was the first i ever saw one alive.
    
    decimation: like, can the president cancel 'freedom of assembly' where he wants?
    
    asciilifeform: they will close streets, restaurants, etc. for blocks.
    
    asciilifeform: hitler, stalin - never.
    
    decimation: george will has a story about obama's visit to his house when he first came to town.   apparently the secret service told the neighbors that they weren't allowed to walk on their own lawn
    
    mats_cd03: 'convoys' are the worst
    
    mats_cd03: stay indoors for x hours while we ... file past you.
    
    decimation: I would like to see a us attorney defend that to a judge
    
    BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hitler, stalin - never. << But those preceeded the Kennedy Fuher
    
    decimation: I suspect that you had every legal right to walk right past that secret service uniformed guy closing lafayette park
    
    asciilifeform: there, interestingly, was a camera crew from some local rag
    
    asciilifeform: filming - what? this, evidently.
    
    asciilifeform: (does one have a legal right to resurrection once shot by the goons?)
    
    decimation: my understanding is that the press 'takes turns' filming every movement of the president so that if he explodes or something they will have the film
    
    asciilifeform: notably, no one announced 'the fuhrer is progressing'
    
    asciilifeform: just 'this area is temporarily restricted'
    
    decimation: asciilifeform: I've seen lafayette park closed just for 'quitting time' for white house people to walk away without having to touch the smelly tourists
    
    decimation: for 'freedom and security' of course
    
    asciilifeform: i'd say, half of it is 'the boot stamping on the human face forever' - sheer pleasure in herding the peasants, sticking finger into their anthills,
    
    asciilifeform: and half - these folks know that they are evil incarnate. and that more or less the entire planet wishes them ill.
    
    asciilifeform: even the subjugated pederasts of natoworld.
    
    BingoBoingo: You know... In the current jurisidtion... No one gives mayor joe trouble, inspite of the populace probably being moar aremed than DC's
    
    decimation: http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/30214722-452/sneed-whats-the-secret-to-valerie-jarretts-security-detail.html
    
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