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asciilifeform: in other archaeological holyfuqs, the wolfmen have ~ergative case~. like basque and chukcha.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. can compactly inflect $verb into 'to force [subj] to $verb' )
asciilifeform: another score for 'sapir-mircea_popescu' , seems like.
asciilifeform: 'enslavative case', thought asciilifeform when he saw this
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/qntra-s-qntr-june-2018-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2018 Report
asciilifeform: in other noose, several 100k 'laughable primes' ( i.e. close to powers of 2, powers of 2 with various value of upper byte, etc ) being generated and added to phuctor 8ball db as we speak ( item discussed in late may, but stuck on conveyor )
asciilifeform: making it happen required buncha painful db tuning, which is nao complete.
BingoBoingo: In other news so far this city of concrete appears to be standing after Uruguay qualified for the quarter finals.
mircea_popescu: i can't believe germany got sent packing
mircea_popescu: total scam sport, srsly, last phase champs fail to qualify ?
BingoBoingo: Seriously
BingoBoingo: It explains so much about the Uruguayos and the Argentines though. They broke their cultures to succeed in scamsport.
mircea_popescu: teh ticos are SO FUCKING PROUD they scored a coupla times...
mircea_popescu: tbh i didn't think they possibly could.
BingoBoingo: The flopping, the timewasting... these are ADVANTAGES in scamsport!
BingoBoingo: Still haven't figured out night photography worth a damn, but the atmosphere here over not getting eliminated was roughly Normal US City wins a league champsionship or College town beats opponent it should not have (Mizzou-Oklahoma 2010) level celebration.
BingoBoingo: On the other hand, my practiced experience knowing how and when to appropriately yell at the tv during sportsballs has helped to build rapport with the locals.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-unaided-rape-position/ << Trilema - The unaided rape position
BingoBoingo: And Russia appears to be taking Spain into overtime
Mocky: grayed out o in count, mircea_popescu, nice touch
asciilifeform: !!up kawaiiwhore
deedbot: kawaiiwhore voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: kawaiiwhore: あなたは誰ですか ?
mircea_popescu: Mocky ikr
asciilifeform: preliminary results : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/INfHc/?raw=true >> shits out 15360 sadprimez; somewhat surprisingly, 0 pops from these.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vkI5t/?raw=true << the next phase, of that experiment, but this one will take a while.
mircea_popescu: interesting. i was expecting some pops tbh.
mircea_popescu: then again, apparently pops are disappopping.
mircea_popescu: see that diana_coman ?
mircea_popescu: pops, dood. it's a thing.
asciilifeform: ..in eulora?
mircea_popescu: errywhere!
mircea_popescu: but yes, eulora has a top of pops.
asciilifeform: 'Trump said he would not rule out a "military option" to deal with Venezuela' << lol!
mircea_popescu: if they have any sense they're buying chinese rockets.
asciilifeform: if they can even still afford chinese rice.
mircea_popescu: will be so fucking hysterical if the 1st us carrier sunk is sunk by venezuela...
mircea_popescu: you kidding ? venezuela is like tmsr-rich.
mircea_popescu: they're just not giving it to the precious cuntlets, is all.
asciilifeform: i thought its riches were denominated in petro with nobody to pump
asciilifeform: if they were smart, would export the cuntlets, sell to chechens etc
mircea_popescu: word. if i were maduro there'd be co-ed open outcry. but... they're new, and besides orcs, whadda ya want.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not so many are needed to pump, and certainly not of the pantsuit class. mostly afaik russians do it.
asciilifeform: last i knew, ru, cn , contractors, aha
mircea_popescu: venezuela's problem is that shitty oil, kinda ~same as fracking by products. but still worth some money.
asciilifeform: similar to usa's.
mircea_popescu: a cut worse.
asciilifeform not expert in subj, knows it mostly via BingoBoingo's retelling
mircea_popescu: anyway, maduro can afford rocketry installation. question is whether he has the sense to, or more of the same "not harvesting the teen cunt for sale because reasons" nonsense.
diana_coman: lol mircea_popescu we'll end up linking phuctor to eulora and have "had his key phucked. Congratulations!"
mircea_popescu: special top, of the eye pop.
phf: !!key asciilifeform
asciilifeform: lol phf it hasn't changed
phf: i'm not nearby my keys
phf: besides, eternal vigilance!!1
asciilifeform: 'not near keys' lol. perhaps today's the day phf ends up eating a faux key via his isp's brand-new www diddletron.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it's so, it's now logged.
phf: asciilifeform: in "clean gentoo for rockchip" is there particular reason why boot sd card's gpt partition has a 8320 sector break between l1 and l2?
asciilifeform: phf: iirc alignment
asciilifeform: phf: copied the layout blindly from vendor's example shitlinux
phf: aah, kk
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, google et al already 'offer' 150k and moar of 'really, we promise' printolade.
asciilifeform: does'em the expected amt of good.
asciilifeform: ( said 'offer', naturally, consists of 'give it to us and maybe we'll think about paying, lol, sucker' )
mircea_popescu: the funny part is that the guy has a very high falooting "oh, cost of doing nothing" bla bla
mircea_popescu: he's gonna pay me in ~dollars~ for ~knowledge~ ? why not pay me in maple leaves for airplane.
asciilifeform: afaik ~no actual dollars 'harmed in the making of this film'(tm)(r)
a111: Logged on 2015-05-30 17:32 asciilifeform: hell, i'm personally sitting on a stash of 0days that i can't do anything practical with.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-14 16:31 asciilifeform: i must point out that i have sat on both sides of this (entirely absent) bench. both in search of secrets, ~and~ sitting on a small stash of 0days that will be buried with me
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 21:38 asciilifeform: also why wouldja 1) help hitler 2) for $ 500 3) that you'd have to suffer from down's syndrome to actually believe will be paid ...?
mircea_popescu: part of the reason for 3) is that ~you don't actually accept fiat in payment~. whether you're aware of this or not. but if you did... take douchebag who does, "works well for him".
asciilifeform: entirely aware
diana_coman: asciilifeform, believe it or not but I have former university colleagues who work for google "because it pays well"; and I'm not at all surprised: while at uni they similarly went to microsoft's local "lab" licking whatever was available to lick; essentially I'd have been surprised if they did NOT work for google /microsoft /similar
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely aware. even if google et al paid as promised ( something i'll believe when i see it with own eyes ) why the fuck would i want to trade a genuinely valuable find for taxolade.
mircea_popescu: taxolade being part of the problem. but rather, it's company scrip, "Can use at company store".
mircea_popescu: "what if your company store doesn't have anything i wish to buy ?"
asciilifeform: i work in the saeculum for the local dubloons, just enuff to pay the bills and keep the experimental budget topped up, like naggum et al. dun mean i particularly care to sell body for it off hours.
asciilifeform: !!up douchebag
deedbot: douchebag voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: I'd like to note that hackerone pays out in bitcoin, however it goes through coinbase...take that for what you will.
asciilifeform: i.e. they pay ( promise to pay.. ? ) in lolcoin
asciilifeform: ( complete with kycism etc )
asciilifeform: i've nfi what one gotta have in place of brains, in crankcase, to fall for this nonsense.
phf: asciilifeform: it's a casino model, you sit down, play a few rounds, "win" a thousand dollars or so, lose some, win some more, all within a few thousand dollar range. on average you come out in the negative, but it's fun while it's happening.
asciilifeform: !#s feel like a trader
asciilifeform: ^ tlp. see also.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-01#1831056 << This is very credible. From mango weather to beaches to the largest proven reserves of oil, Vzla has the recursos naturales Argentina could only dream of.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-01 18:37 mircea_popescu: you kidding ? venezuela is like tmsr-rich.
mircea_popescu: argentina has recursos humanos.
mircea_popescu: anyway. most of south america is "great place, sadly inhabited" unlike argentina etc, venezuela started to do soemthing about it.
BingoBoingo: I thought Argentina claimed both
mircea_popescu: possibru
BingoBoingo: But yes very inhabited down here
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << In other news, I can now say that I definitively have an answer as to the issue (and, finally, a solution)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-23 12:46 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829051 << lobbes didja determine what proggy (e.g. apache?) it was that actually fell down ?
lobbes: phew, talk about a learning experience
BingoBoingo: Anyways, new Chinese/Russian missiles in Venezuala would not be a surprise
mircea_popescu: lobbes nice work!
BingoBoingo: Anyways, part of Venezuala's schtick historically is that they have been blockaded by Europeans before over debt defaults. They have to have seen Argentina's clusterfuck with euro missiles over the falklands. Every reason for them to buy from the Chicoms and Ruskies.
BingoBoingo: lobbes: props on the mod_evasive
lobbes: ty all!
lobbes: the real key was the "mod_limitipconn" a bit further down
mircea_popescu: (in case anyone's wondering WHY such a thing would even occur : it's because http://trilema.com/2017/remember-the-security-hole-automattic-refused-to-fix-back-in-2014/ ; and because the expectation that this works is ~so strong~ among the internet-moron-exploiters, they don't even bother to check that indeed mp-wp doesn't permit it. so they'll try and try and try to "ddos" this way.)
lobbes: incidentally, trinque, next time you're in the boiler room plox to try adding http://blog.lobbesblog.com/feed/ once more
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/chinese-auto-giant-byd-building-massive-battery-plant/ << Qntra - Chinese Auto Giant BYD Building Massive Battery Plant
asciilifeform: lobbes: iptables will work if you build the kernel ( there is a tarball with patched kernel on all pizarro rockchip boxen ) with the requisite flags
asciilifeform: prolly i oughta make this standard
asciilifeform: ( the pilot plant kernel was built, believe or not, in hotel, right there on the coffee table, definitely needs some refinement )
asciilifeform: 'With a capacity of 24 GWh, this new battery factory should enable them to significantly increase production with a total battery production capacity of 60 GWh' << lulzy, sorta like measuring output of condom factory in liters
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/trilema-log-reading/ << esthlos - Trilema Log Reading
phf: asciilifeform: hey, when booting your rockchip fileset on asus did you get a screen output or just console/cable?
asciilifeform: phf: console, via snake
asciilifeform: screen too
asciilifeform: however i used the evil kernel, haven't yet built a kernel for c101pa
asciilifeform: ( not google's, but shitlinux, iirc 'arch' )
phf: haha, i'm following same regression
asciilifeform: it switches on the lcd light, etc
phf: but i finally finished the cable, had time to test that it works, then left home for weekend and naturally forgot the cable. so running blind/not really getting any output
asciilifeform: phf: if you get a black screen, chances are that it didn't boot the kernel
phf: yeah, that's what it looks like. there's minimum activity from the usb on first check, and then blank screen
asciilifeform: phf: it's ~useless to do just about anything with that box without the snake
asciilifeform: ( my old userland doesn't give you a working nic, either )
phf: oh i figured as much, but at least i had a chance to organize the workspace. download relevant bits, line up a bunch of discussion pages with mentions of mysterious utilities that take obscure flags
asciilifeform: re: cr50, fwiw i have pretty much whole thing multiply massaged in ida, code/data mapped, got good % of the functions 'usefully' named. but so far no dice in finding a usable hole.
phf: that sort of stuff. i assumed though that at least that arch guide will at least give me a console
asciilifeform: whole escapade mostly succeeded so far in being a time sink for asciilifeform , and little else
phf: did you use the vmlinux.kpart from http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-veyron-latest.tar.gz by any chance?
asciilifeform: yes, iirc that very same
phf: kk
phf: well, i'm going to at least get this device to be a decent note taking tool or something along those lines
asciilifeform: for asciilifeform it was originally wanted as a box for travel . really not imho suitable for the purpose, in light of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825108 .
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 20:56 asciilifeform: '...and this here is the airport wallet inspector master key jack. got a problem, terrorist ?'
phf: right
asciilifeform: and i cannot in good conscience encourage other folx to buy it.
asciilifeform: not until we break it.
asciilifeform: seems like my x60 will have to be made to last for some years.
asciilifeform: ( batteries have become a first class bitch, they last for 2-3 months , hundred charges or so and straight to rubbish bin )
asciilifeform: i have a capacitative welder nao, will have to try hand-rebatterying at some point. ( will need to find how to reset the embedded charge monitor thing they've got )
asciilifeform: 1 problem is that the li-ion cells on the market, are all ~same chinese liquishit as what's in the aftermarket batteries to begin with
asciilifeform: ( you can pay moar for 'japan', but really it's just same cells, re-stickered , genuine ones are ~unobtainium )
asciilifeform: last yr i bought what claimed to be an original unit, from warehouse. croaked in coupla weeks. ( li-ion cells -- don't keep )
asciilifeform: and it ain't as if the thing could run for moar than 2-3 hrs on a charge even when new.
asciilifeform: x86 -- suxx.
phf: i treat the x60 battery purely as a ups, which yes makes it pretty useless for travel. can break it out on amtrak or at a hotel that's pretty much it
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 07:06 mircea_popescu: !~later tell hanbot here's something you might find useful : http://trilema.com/hanbot/
asciilifeform: phf: yeah, great until you're on a plane, or worthless chinese orc-to-human mains adapter breaks ( happened to asciilifeform in BingoBoingostan ), or sitting on BingoBoingo's roof , or, or.
asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, none of the planes that go to BingoBoingostan, appeared to have sockets ( maybe in firstclass, they do ? asciilifeform wouldn't know , has never sat there )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831160 << hey, at least you're not out there playing vidja.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 00:04 asciilifeform: whole escapade mostly succeeded so far in being a time sink for asciilifeform , and little else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wassat ?
mircea_popescu: video games.
mircea_popescu: or on the next level, either ironiy or sarcasm.
mircea_popescu: (speaking of joni malkovich, isn't it a wonder the instagram kids aren't spelling it "ironiy" iet ?
asciilifeform: i'll admit to having played a crappy www-based game thing where you learn jp, while waking up and the kettle is boiling, but that's the closest thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re battieries, i usually buy/carry a whole bag. whats actually needed is a dual-battery item, so you can hotswap them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had 2 in BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: didn't help much
mircea_popescu: why not ?
asciilifeform: 2nd one , turned out, was breathing its last, suddenly wouldn't even charge, jettisoned it right there
mircea_popescu: 2 battery unit as in, plugged at the same time.
mircea_popescu: i got a bagful of batteries with every laptop anyway
asciilifeform: x60 dun have a 2nd hole
asciilifeform: i have a box with 2nd hole, but it's a modern i7 thing and ugh, and on top of this it weights like 4kg
mircea_popescu: this is what i am saying. i have come to realise, no 2-battery hole, not useful for laptopping./
asciilifeform: asciilifeform was on a mass-constrained mission, recall.
asciilifeform: every gram , in the end, was spoken for.
asciilifeform: even bought a lighter toothbrush..
asciilifeform: i wish i were making this up, lol
mircea_popescu: could have just bought one there!
asciilifeform: aha, thought of this already after launched.
asciilifeform: the toothpaste, too..
asciilifeform: could prolly have bought changes of clothing there, even.
asciilifeform: but at certain point 'time is money'
mircea_popescu: also, experience is the traveller's greatest aid.
asciilifeform: ( clothing arguably went 'for phree', as it was used to pad the machine crates )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: overall it was, in 'doom' terminology, a '100% kills' trip, 0 unexpected anyffings, really
mircea_popescu: aha. nice.
asciilifeform: ( sadly i ~expect~ the laptop crapola, it has never worked reliably and prolly never will )
asciilifeform: i'd pay a coupla btc for a Trooly Working lappy. if such a thing, in some shangri-la, existed...
asciilifeform: ( i.e. <1kg, 12+ hrs of run, 0 nobus, etc etc )
asciilifeform bbl,meat
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831179 << I have seen that item before, would be helpful now that I think about it, but the link returns "page not found"
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 00:22 mircea_popescu: esthlos re http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/ you've seen http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770183 ?
mircea_popescu: oh god damned it, seems i ended up deleting them
mircea_popescu: hanbot you got copies somewhere ?
mircea_popescu: "My attempted pace will be to read 4 days of logs every day (3 older logs, and the present log). The average log takes me about 30 minutes to read (including following links), and there's a bit over 900 logs to catch up on, so I'll be caught up in 300 days, working 2 hours a day. Starting late is a bitch, ya know." << i am SO FUCKING CURIOUS how this works out!
mircea_popescu marks 2019 june on his calendar for the followup
mircea_popescu: (you're in good company, <nikki_ff> reading logs is nice )
mircea_popescu: esthlos another item is that some bullet-addressing mechanism particularly useful on your summary page. put anchors ?
mircea_popescu: broken though patterns << " broken thoughT patterns. tho i have no good way to reference it.
esthlos: hmm yep, I can generate those. let's see...
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> hanbot you got copies somewhere ? << that'd've been wise, but i didn't think to make a copy.
mircea_popescu: o brother.
mircea_popescu: talk about wasted effort.
esthlos: mircea_popescu: added bullet-addressing. hope it helps
esthlos: also, my piece shoulda mentioned: about 900 days since the bitbet blowout, which is my starting place
lobbes: pretty nifty esthlos. Didja see the !tag thread btw? I always thought that would be a good way to approach the 'chronicle the logs' problem >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-21#1437059
a111: Logged on 2016-03-21 07:43 mircea_popescu: hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ?
mircea_popescu: http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-06-27_4 << item is actually ancient, 2014s. in fact, predates "FIH", possibly lead to it.
mircea_popescu: certainly as far as i recall one of the "nutty" things alf said early on that signalled him away from the crowd to my eye.
mircea_popescu: esthlos this then leads to the next stop, esthlos bot for reading out the content of a bullet :D
mircea_popescu: this may end up as a sort of modified/improved version of Framedragger_ 's original multi-line log select
lobbes: incoming deed spam.. pardon me:
deedbot: accepted: 1
deedbot: accepted: 1
deedbot: accepted: 1
deedbot: accepted: 1
lobbes: </spam>
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831241 << well I fell into that trap, huh! sounds like a good next project
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 01:57 mircea_popescu: esthlos this then leads to the next stop, esthlos bot for reading out the content of a bullet :D
lobbes: !!v DB02237A606ED66FE4C0996D5AAD46416B2A7007F8B5FA6F890F15ACD89703FD
deedbot: lobbes rated esthlos 1 << reads log, keeps blog, does useful things. See blog.esthlos.com
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-01#1831138 << ty for this info. Some of my research on subj. indeed hinted at 'rebuild kernel' but it would have taken me a bit more time to actually confirm this for myself
a111: Logged on 2018-07-01 21:22 asciilifeform: lobbes: iptables will work if you build the kernel ( there is a tarball with patched kernel on all pizarro rockchip boxen ) with the requisite flags
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831237 << interesting. seems like implementing the tags wouldn't be hard, but choosing the right ones would be
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 01:52 lobbes: pretty nifty esthlos. Didja see the !tag thread btw? I always thought that would be a good way to approach the 'chronicle the logs' problem >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-21#1437059
esthlos: I'd be happy to be the librarian, though could imagine a system where the bot allows trusted users to "push" summaries or tags. curation is a necessity, but I don't doubt others can produce much better summaries than I
esthlos: anyway, bbl
lobbes: indeed, the benefit of the tag method is that -you- don't have to personally tag each thread (not saying you can or cannot, just... it is an immense amount of effort).
lobbes: with re: to curation, you could record the nick for everyone that submits a tag, then just allow others who view the tagged data to filter based on nick. (Other option of course would be a gpg challenge to submit a tag, but I doubt people will want to unsheathe their key every time they want to tag a thread.)
lobbes: anyways, I'm just spit-balling here. You might find a much better way to do all this
lobbes bbl as well
mircea_popescu: esthlos no rush anyway, as one grows it drives the other
mircea_popescu: somewhere in logs /me explains the screw.
lobbes: !!v 41745A7D9187957BC95BA8311835268978C50E6A1C9461BCB90E30F33AC356A3
mircea_popescu: !!pay-invoice lobbes 1
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831265 << nah, the correct approach is to leverage the wot and the v. basically, allow user to give weights to tag authors, obtain a weighted average tag cloud per that spec.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 02:41 lobbes: with re: to curation, you could record the nick for everyone that submits a tag, then just allow others who view the tagged data to filter based on nick. (Other option of course would be a gpg challenge to submit a tag, but I doubt people will want to unsheathe their key every time they want to tag a thread.)
mircea_popescu: ie, just like the seals directory, except the seals aren't binary but whatever, a number.
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