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phf: trying to interact with technology from middle of nowhere makes me question why i even do it to begin with. "Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 90"
ben_vulpes: > Fog gem may have cleaned out older backups.
ben_vulpes: run moar ror
deedbot: accepted: 1
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9C527DD30672ACD2AF8A0882D1637C50603F3FB1A5F2581038D8CAB33D49C97E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1539...7087 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.65.137 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.65.137 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (4624.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9C527DD30672ACD2AF8A0882D1637C50603F3FB1A5F2581038D8CAB33D49C97E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1516...4497 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.65.137 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.65.137 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (4624.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
mircea_popescu: phf you managed to go back to the 80s ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no that's ~exactly~ what they both earned and deserve. i wasn't kidding re memory holing the other day, the plan literally is for EVERYTHING empire made to get permanently lost. from wikipedia on.
mircea_popescu: !~google "ma.gnolia"
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Ma . gnolia - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnolia>; Jak&Jil - La moda sta in tutto: <https://ma.gnolia.com/>; Magnolia Market: Chip & Joanna Gaines | HGTV Fixer Upper: <https://magnoliamarket.com/>
mircea_popescu: heh mkay.
asciilifeform: speaking of pediwikia, https://archive.is/GLvmc
asciilifeform: ^ 'drowning in spam' ohnoez!
shinohai: No one could have predicted.
mircea_popescu: yeah and there totally wasn't like, an article describing the policy years ago either.
asciilifeform: the chlorophos given in mircea_popescu's 'bulldoze reddit' piece works equally well on all wotless insecta
mircea_popescu kinda loves the mutation of the advertising copy into a fake problems narrative, also. "oh there are problems but the valiant soviets!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah that's kinda teh idea.
mircea_popescu: and, amusingly enough, wikipedia thinks alla kushnir is a mediocre russian-jewish chess player from before the war.
mircea_popescu: (she's a very popular ukr bellydancer)
shinohai: I'm trying to talk indiancandy into doing bellydancing, for diversity.
mircea_popescu: talk therapy has its limits. from experience girl was either into bellydancing when she was 9, or else she either bellydances or gets the hose again.
mircea_popescu: there's no talking girl into it.
shinohai: It's hard to find interesting ideas for camgirl that refuses to use a dildo or other penetrative props
mircea_popescu: well, you're also new at this huh.
shinohai: Well kinda, but usually it's simple "Wanna write numbers on tits for Trilema?" or something similar and I get mah 10% and move on lol
mircea_popescu: ownership of the means of production is hard work.
shinohai: Indeed.
mircea_popescu: as teh linked "song" sez, "the father of many cunts worth money doesn't sleep"
asciilifeform: such east!
asciilifeform: re link.
mircea_popescu: heh. la florida, and other eastern places.
asciilifeform: sooo in other olds: x86 sets overflow flag during shifts (SHL/SHR) only if overflow on ~single~ bit shift.
asciilifeform: (x86 has a barrel shifter)
asciilifeform: because, apparently, designer was dropped as a baby.
mircea_popescu: wait what ?!
mircea_popescu: shl 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 1 overflows but 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 4 does not ?
asciilifeform: correct.
asciilifeform: well it overflows, no shit, but flag never set
mircea_popescu: dude whaty
mircea_popescu: compiler must make all shift instructions shift by 1 then./
mircea_popescu: you want shl 65535 > results in 65536 shl 1
asciilifeform: say hello to snail speed
asciilifeform: and incidentally sanity checks that introduce branches, ANNIHILATE the pipeline
asciilifeform: (and on x86 that's ~all of them)
asciilifeform brb, teatime
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't before understand that i fully agree with you, x86 / x64 is a doomed technology.
mircea_popescu: !!up aseriousgogetta
deedbot: aseriousgogetta voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: so who might you be ?
aseriousgogetta: a budding developer/student of life.
aseriousgogetta: working my ass off to remember more then i forget. ;)
BingoBoingo: aseriousgogetta: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
aseriousgogetta: he is a loving alcoholic & he works sun-up to sun-down doing all he can. i love my dad.
BingoBoingo: Awe, an actual answer!
shinohai: Here in #trilema we have help for alkys
shinohai: !~step1
jhvh1: 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
trinque: aseriousgogetta: how did you find your way in?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-01#1610604 << ftr none of the currently sold chips are in any important respect different from x86 re arithmetic.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-01 15:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't before understand that i fully agree with you, x86 / x64 is a doomed technology.
mircea_popescu: dude that shift implementation is broken
aseriousgogetta: Application Specific, so let's flash these ROM's to mine moar!
mircea_popescu: !!down aseriousgogetta
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/an-alan-smithee-film-burn-hollywood-burn/ << Trilema - An Alan Smithee Film : Burn Hollywood Burn
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks from http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0497a/CIHDDCIF.html that arm, for example, behaves exactly like x86.
asciilifeform: the funniest bit is that 32-bit (1980s) sparc HAD trap-on-overflow instructions, and DITCHED them when upgraded to 64bit !
mircea_popescu: no bad idea ever died on its own
asciilifeform: to be moar like x86 !
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/us-university-endowments-net-loss-in-2016/ << Qntra - US University Endowments Net Loss In 2016
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vGD4UgyJ3E << lynch mob left in delicto flagrante
asciilifeform: 'ɢoogle.com'
ben_vulpes: pretty cute
trinque: per the rules of disorganized angry mob, trump guy lost
BingoBoingo: Moar unicode pls!
trinque: sign-waving right is lamest right
asciilifeform: elsewhere in heathendom, http://archive.is/kfQaT >> '"Leakedsource is down forever and won't be coming back," a person using the handle LTD wrote Thursday in an online forum. "Owner raided early this morning. Wasn't arrested, but all [solid state drives] got taken, and Leakedsource servers got subpoenaed and placed under federal investigation. If somehow he recovers from this and launches LS again,
asciilifeform: then I'll be wrong. But I am not wrong."'
asciilifeform: ^ www that had the dumps from tardstalk, 'adultfriendfinder', buncha others
asciilifeform: !!up fromdeedbot
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: !!up fromdeedbot
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: fromdeedbot: hi, who are you?
thestringpuller: didn't realize deedbot.org had a webchat link...
trinque: in fact it does.
fromdeedbot: just a fellow netizen poking around :)
fromdeedbot: trinque: i was actually looking around online to see what you were up to these days. its been a while
trinque: oh has it?
trinque: how would I know
fromdeedbot: haha yea i'd say probably 11 years
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
trinque: fromdeedbot: well, if you want to let me know who, I might rate you. otherwise enjoy the logs.
fromdeedbot: trinque: word, does the name plauche ring any bells?
trinque: heh, howdy, long time indeed.
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://archive.is/nWOMS << qntra?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: training exercise usually means top secret mission
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: and 'new mexico' means: antarctica ..?
thestringpuller: yes. just like pilot killed during cuban missile crisis died in "training accident" :P
shinohai: goddamn asciilifeform ... just one day after that heli crash @ Ft. Campbell
mircea_popescu: !$ssh 70.104.21.130
scriba: ssh banner of 70.104.21.130 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
Framedragger: guess that at this point it'd be great if it gave *more* info, huh. (server hello from :80 / :443, etc.) if anyone wants to work on latter while i'm busy with unrelated things, could provide current code / info on setup
mircea_popescu: the tmsr dns is getting ever meatier.
Framedragger: ( s/could provide/i could provide/ , i meant)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger prolly should run that thing yearly too.
shinohai: !~display 70.104.21.130
jhvh1: shinohai: {'city': 'Denton', 'region_name': 'TX', 'area_code': 940, 'longitude': -97.1264, 'country_code3': 'USA', 'latitude': 33.183400000000006, 'postal_code': '76205', 'dma_code': 623, 'country_code': 'US', 'country_name': 'United States'}
mircea_popescu: dunno if you care enough / have the patience.
mircea_popescu: !~echo *thumbsup* shinohai
jhvh1: *thumbsup* shinohai
Framedragger: my initial optimistic idea was to s/yearly/monthly/ or even weekly :) (certainly possible, and automatable.) will have to wait. but at least yearly -- certainly (not too much effort for latter, i think)
mircea_popescu: which !? is nuke, i forget ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yearly is plenty imo.
ben_vulpes: !~echo !~echo
jhvh1: !~echo
ben_vulpes: !~echo !~echo !~echo
jhvh1: !~echo !~echo
ben_vulpes: !~echo !$ssh 127.0.0.1
jhvh1: !$ssh 127.0.0.1
asciilifeform: Framedragger: pretty neat
ben_vulpes: !$ssh 127.0.0.1
Framedragger: !~echo !$ssh 79.98.25.182
jhvh1: !$ssh 79.98.25.182
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, http://archive.is/lZdBU << for expert entomologists only. (via jurov)
Framedragger: ^ oh, that's a bug, should only be one of those.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: aye
mircea_popescu: what's the bug ?
ben_vulpes: contains rather than starts with
mircea_popescu: hurr durr !$ssh 79.98.25.182
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
mircea_popescu: lmao noo.
mircea_popescu gets to "as i got in my lyft back home", entirely loses interest.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/feeeelings-tis-only-feeeee-eeelings/ << Trilema - Feeeelings... tis only feeeee-eeelings!
mircea_popescu: whatever the fuck "kieryn fartwater" has to say doesn't really belong written
ben_vulpes: that poll booth operators have the money for cabs astonishes me
mircea_popescu: lyft is a cab in the sense urban slum dwellings are homes.
ben_vulpes: hey i saw a mercedes with an uber and lyft sticker yesterday
ben_vulpes: heinous abuse of capital equipment, but it beats a prius
ben_vulpes: or whatever put-puts they use in bsas
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes and i saw a rich "sv culture" dork and a talented madonna.
mircea_popescu: idem heinous abuse of capital equipment ; but it's how socialism attempts to sell its hamburgers
ben_vulpes: hard to even get excited about even a brand new mercedes
ben_vulpes: "oh cool honda civics now come with turbos standard"
mircea_popescu: bout as exciting as "latest version" software.
ben_vulpes: "i guess that's cool if you can stomach 'new cars'"
ben_vulpes: you take that back a turbocharger is not a rev bump
Framedragger: (re. "contains", since it's a.. nuanced bot, it was actually meant to work correctly, i.e. did not confuse "contains" with "starts with", so.. need to look at it to understand wtf.)
ben_vulpes: forced induction is a BLESSING
trinque: aha, I saw a bentley the other day that had only two seats
trinque: apparently it is only for your driver
mircea_popescu: let us ! add $ insult to inju 79.98.25.182 ry
mircea_popescu: trinque some people use the hos as a drivers.
ben_vulpes: nuanced == "spilling out of head through ears"?
mircea_popescu: "this is a nuanced patient" "yes but why nuances of dark purple".
mircea_popescu: "hypoxia"
Framedragger: a b !$ ssh 85.125.140.228 79.98.25.182 c d
Framedragger: !$ ssh 85.125.140.228 79.98.25.182 c d
scriba: ssh banner of 85.125.140.228 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
Framedragger: "regexp, not even once!"
mircea_popescu: are you doing basic science on your software Framedragger ?
Framedragger: yes, *some*. but not enough automation, apparently; and not enough falsification in this case, as is very much apparent :/ should have been an obvious catch by either automated test or at least manual test. was (very shamefully) a wee bit too lazy with this last command.
mircea_popescu: !!up fromsiphnos
deedbot: fromsiphnos voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: ohai fromsiphnos, what brings you here?
Framedragger: did you stumble here through siphnos.mkj.lt ?
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: oh, are you the austrian dude who emailed fd@mkj.lt once? (given that you connected from vienna just now) :)
mircea_popescu: isn't that a little too aggressive Framedragger ?
fromsiphnos: well , i was curious as to what kind of infos are there on the above site you mentionated
fromsiphnos: Salut Mircea :)
mircea_popescu: who might you be then ?
Framedragger: i suppose it's not documented anywhere properly as of yet, hm! fromsiphnos, are you by chance familiar with the `ssh-keyscan` tool (bundled in by default in the openssh package). it's basically output from that tool, plus a list of all IP addresses which can be connected to on port 22.
fromsiphnos: i am familiar yes ! but i was curious to find out, how did you managed to scan around 15 mil + ip's to find their banners and their keys
Framedragger: the former (ssh-keyscan output) is basically, ssh-rsa public keys, plus ssh server banners (ssh hello's).
fromsiphnos: 15 mil + ip's which are up actually !
fromsiphnos: i say nice job :)
Framedragger: good question, and yet another shameful instance of my backlog (in an ideal world, you would find an article in regards to that on the most esteemed news source, http://qntra.net/ )
fromsiphnos: are you saying you actually can access those ip's ?
fromsiphnos: on ssh ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you gotta start wiping that backlog yo.
Framedragger: (the siphnos datadrop (http://siphnos.mkj.lt/datadrop/) gives the banners ("banners" folder) and keys (in various formats), including raw ssh-keyscan output (*_scan.tar.bz2), as e,N,IP CSVs (e-N-IP*), a.k.a. tmsr format, and converted openpgp (rfc4880) format.)
fromsiphnos: i think i agree with mircea_popescu here !
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: true that, no shit :( (funny thing, i ended up with two $jobs and $uni to finish. as i said before, looking forward to summer, which will be *much* easier, with $things finished.)
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: what do you mean by access? connect to, and get a login challenge from server? yes. access as in "hack da system" login access? no - this is *server* ssh key, not client
Framedragger: but good news, as asciilifeform et al. have pointed out before, a lot of client keys get generated on ssh servers. if random number generation or other things are broken on the latter, you can *derive* the (set of) the former, in some cases :)
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: glory awaits!
Framedragger: i need to learn to use log-search quickly like you guyz
fromsiphnos: glory awaits ! nice one
fromsiphnos: with all the infos you got there ..
a111: Logged on 2016-11-17 16:02 Framedragger: in fact.. due to https://hdm.io/tools/debian-openssl/ correctly pointing out that "This flaw is ugly because even systems that do not use the Debian software need to be audited in case any key is being used that was created on a Debian system.", someone should attempt botnet-brute-login to all 13M+ (i forget lol) ssh hosts with rng-fucked client keys.
mircea_popescu: we use interns.
fromsiphnos: well , that might get very interested !
fromsiphnos: botnet-brute-login like random user/pass ? worst brute force ever ..
fromsiphnos: yet, it seems it's the "only one out there"
Framedragger: so basically that's the kind of info available. more later, hopefully. there have been some scans of other ports on the ssh-broken (phucted, as in http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/ ) boxes, etc.; but no central place for those scans.
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: no, not user/pass, though one could try a bit of that, too, but as in, generate small set of "debianized" ssh client keys, and try all of'em. much smaller set. see logs above
Framedragger: !#s debianized
a111: 17 results for "debianized", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=debianized
fromsiphnos: i am not familiar with .. "try all of 'em" !
fromsiphnos: i ... don't know how
Framedragger: (i must point out that these sorts of scans are nothing unique at all. https://scans.io/ offers data, for example, but i can't be arsed to make an account and check. mebbe sometime.)
Framedragger: (what is nice is not bullshitting around and just providing raw data (at least as one of the options)).
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: you'll need to learn things, this is not a (completely) trivial hacker-kiddo thing, in the sense of finding a list of "hackable" IPs on a forum and then trying user/pass pairs. :) you'd need to be understand how public key based authentication works, and what the distinction between a server ssh key and a client ssh key is.
Framedragger: to be able to understand*
shinohai: Basic algebra helps as well.
mircea_popescu: and yet again passing silently over noob's failure to respond to "who are you" turns out to have been a stupid move.
shinohai pokes BingoBoingo awake to ask these questions.
fromsiphnos: i am just "playing" here ..
fromsiphnos: are you guys the good guys ? or bad guys ?
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: no. if you don't answer that question, we are left to infer things on our own when you ask non-trivial questions, and people are busy.
Framedragger: (things such as level of knowledge, or who is your daddy.)
fromsiphnos: if, there is something which i don't understand , ( i did understand all you were saying til now ) , I .. will ask !
trinque: "hello fellow h@X0rZ, got any leet warez today?"
mircea_popescu: !!down aww too latye
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
mircea_popescu: i swear deedbot is sentient.
shinohai: !!rate Framedragger 1 #trilema, phuctor, scriba
shinohai: !!v 24A7507FADD549CDA356597F188F20AF23946E31BD72C4EB927EF0AC40880E55
deedbot: shinohai rated Framedragger 1 << #trilema, phuctor, scriba
shinohai: Sorry Framedragger shoulda done that sooner
mircea_popescu: you just get excited :)
Framedragger: that is in fact a weakness of mine...
mircea_popescu: only weakness if badly managed.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-01#1610795 << prety lulzy how the delusion of "independence" and "in control of self and own destiny" works in retards, too. this schmuck actually imagines himself in a position to... recognize, by himself, for himself, when he didn't understand something.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-01 21:50 fromsiphnos: if, there is something which i don't understand , ( i did understand all you were saying til now ) , I .. will ask !
mircea_popescu: the fact that he failed to understand something (and failed SILENTLY!11) a mere five minutes prior gives him no pause, much like any other socialist retard, "trust me, i'm a good guy" with blood and guts all over.
mircea_popescu: "i wouldn't steal, honest!" "why are you wearing 48 wrist watches on your arms ?" "oh... that's the soviet fashion. they're... um... gifts!"
shinohai: In Soviet Russia, watches wear YOU
ben_vulpes: oh look at that, fed funds rate holds
mircea_popescu: if you win that bet ima cane some investment bankers.
ben_vulpes: if i win that bet...
ben_vulpes: tcha, not even worth planning for.
mircea_popescu: was for thje whole year no ?
mircea_popescu: o right you got odds huh
ben_vulpes: this was for entire first term
mircea_popescu: o brother.
mircea_popescu: if you win that bet i'll seriously start consulting you for financial advice.
mod6: same
mircea_popescu: you'll be the lord exchequer
ben_vulpes: "come on down to ben_vulpes' discount lolzporium!"
mircea_popescu: for srs.
shinohai: One single bet could make your lolzporium more profitable than OpenBazaar ben_vulpes
shinohai: This model may require further research.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: it's simple, you just have to correctly price the paper that everyone else has mispriced.
mircea_popescu: but are you the good guys ?
shinohai: LOL reddit bans alt-right subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/altright
shinohai: dis gonna b good
mircea_popescu: didn;'t they ban pretty much everything non conde nast last year anyway ?
shinohai: Was surprised they didn't do it pre election
mircea_popescu: foregone conclusion anyway, i see zero possibility of outfits like iab / conde nast / the atlantic / new york times / guardian / etcetera borrowing in the future. they won't be able to finance ops, and so it's myspace time for them all.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: they didn't even know it existed pre election
mircea_popescu: time to find out exactly how much fat the "incubator that produced a hundred billion in new companies" actually has on the bones.
mircea_popescu: but something tells me there's going to be left very little of andressen's "nice going team" after a coupla years' worth of headwind.
mircea_popescu: fact. only things you like exist.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what was the official front page of the internet, voat something ?
ben_vulpes: fact: only things like you exist
shinohai: Yup, until Ryan X Charles destroys it all with `Yours`
shinohai: or whatever the fuck he calls it.
asciilifeform: holy fuq, reddit ideologically pure at last?!
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/01/be-less-informed-not-more-a-guide-to-circles/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Be less informed, not more. A guide to circles.
asciilifeform: http://unzip-ada.sourceforge.net/za_html/index.htm << astonishingly readable literate-programming d00d. and he has a bunch of these.
asciilifeform: pure-gnat, no deps, proggies.
asciilifeform: linked one is a simple pkzip clone.
mircea_popescu: nice. invite him over ?
asciilifeform: he's a french d00d, maybe davout oughta handle this one
asciilifeform: i can, just as easily, but i suspect that i live under a curse, so far nobody i invite, comes
mircea_popescu: gotta break it eh
asciilifeform: reading that 'pkzip', soul sings : 0 deps! no 'alexandrias', etc
asciilifeform: i misspoke, none of it even depends on gnat
asciilifeform: pure standard ada.
asciilifeform: (equivalent in commonlisp world would be a program that relies ~only~ on the ansi standard)
asciilifeform: !!up _lord_of_mars_
deedbot: _lord_of_mars_ voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: The sig campaign spam camp is that way >>>
asciilifeform: ...the what?
shinohai: Philippine IP
mircea_popescu: !!key _lord_of_mars_
shinohai: ah a potential Eulorian
mircea_popescu: i think so
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: any progress updates on the 0.8.2 / 0.8.6 tests ? curious to see what hacks are needed, if any.
asciilifeform: lol, for what do you want the old rusty shovels of heathendom, pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: bv had asked for my archived copies a few weeks back, presumably with the intent to run on spare macware.
pete_dushenski: i have no such software in operation atm. though i may fire one up just to see what i can learn about the cuts trb ultimately made.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 0.8.something was the last prb i had working
asciilifeform: it is not actually very enlightening to a student of trb, because various subsystems were replaced wholesale.
asciilifeform: iirc jurov has 0.8.x in his lxr viewer www, so see for yourself.
pete_dushenski: i might just get my hands dirty either way. not quite lead into gold but i highly doubt i'll learn ~nothing~
pete_dushenski: 0.8.1 is jurov's lxr version ftr
ben_vulpes: progress? updates? tests?
ben_vulpes: they're in a vault with other memorabilia, what
ben_vulpes: hypercard decks, master of orion, dean martin show archives...
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/us-pork-belly-inventory-falls-to-50-year-low/ << Qntra - US Pork Belly Inventory Falls To 50 Year Low
ben_vulpes: perhaps some day in peacetime i shall compare the hashes of the bins you sent over to my other archives
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: the most i can imagine you'll learn about the differences between prb and trb without reading the source is that the latter doesn't have a gui
ben_vulpes: i did write an article about the material changes from each version
pete_dushenski re-reads!
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