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BingoBoingo: Starting to seem like the only thing that could have saved broken elliot would have been going all in on the booze. Not getting girls drunk, but getting himself black out drunk until he developed the alcoholism and his life became unmanageable for relateable reasons.
BingoBoingo: Maybe he's get lucky and the B12 deficiency encephaly would break his brain into working
BingoBoingo: "Both my friends James and Philip seem to be the weak, accepting type; whereas I am the fighter. I will never stand to be insulted, and I will eventually have my revenge against all those who insult me, no matter how long it takes." << Dude needed a real enemy
BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w
BingoBoingo: orking these steps we shall find a new Freedom and a new happiness... We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us" (TM)(R)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-27#1530246 << iirc someone suggested dope earlier
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 04:48 BingoBoingo: Starting to seem like the only thing that could have saved broken elliot would have been going all in on the booze. Not getting girls drunk, but getting himself black out drunk until he developed the alcoholism and his life became unmanageable for relateable reasons.
asciilifeform: but! it generally #includes <sociallife.h>
asciilifeform: so likely herr rodger was 'invsober'.
asciilifeform: ( except, of course, when drinking his 1985 mega-winez.. )
asciilifeform: now if dope were something one could download! then.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-27#1530249 << maybe did not care for black chix?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 05:09 BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w
asciilifeform: schmuck in bmw is just a schmuck in bmw, not a picker of chix, just as if asciilifeform were to put on a priceless 16th c. samurai armour, he would not thereby become a samurai.
asciilifeform: (and in usa, bmw is not a rare or esp. precious item, this is not moscow circa '92, any idiot can max out his reddit card & 'own' one)
asciilifeform: it is not a boeing, no.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah lol. me.
mircea_popescu: cuz i had nfi there was anyone left in california who didn't ganja
mircea_popescu: kid is a wonder to behold, he effortlessly succeeds at things virtually none of his compatriots ever do, such as killing people (note how many of the "i shot a buncha losers" types are actually first generation or further as opposed to malibu-beachouse-timesharing-lizzardkin) or keeping his nose clean (seriously, find someone in californa born 80s or prior who is not and will not smoke), and then is all bitter and butthurt o
mircea_popescu: ver his "failure" (rather, deliberate avoidance) of cunt.
mircea_popescu: sexuate copulation being, in ALL species, the absolute lowest bar conceivable. numeration is a higher achievement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this hallucination of choice, "i am getting none and will tell you what i won't accept" is the universal symptom of elliot-idiocy not just in elliot, but in everyone. AFTER you get MORE than you can handle, THEN you can express preference. not before. never before.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that you're already fucking tanja, jennifer, rachel and the bubblebutt sisters, and this hottie cinema user begs you to let her come in with you and massage your feet while you watch the movie, and you're too exhausted to think that's a good idea, THEN you start thinking what you prefer, and ditch some of the crowd.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that your boss wants you to do overtime, his competitor wants you to move over and there's five headhunters heating your phone, THEN you consider it's time to ask for a raise.
mircea_popescu: etcetera etcetera.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the preferences" of the virgin. virgins have no preferences.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we did, iirc, have a crashed pilot thread
asciilifeform: (re the ww2 folk who starved on account of refusing to eat insect)
mircea_popescu: not what's called a preference.
asciilifeform: how is that not 'preference' ?
asciilifeform: ants are protein like any other...
mircea_popescu: because preference, definitionally, is a choice between two or more present things.
mircea_popescu: choice between one or fewer present things is not preference, but ideology/insanity/identity/whatever you wish to call it.
asciilifeform: well they had two present things, insect protein, and death of starvation... picked the latter.
mircea_popescu: death of starvation is not one present thing.
mircea_popescu: if they ate dragonflies rather than wasps, they'd have had a preference for dragonflies and preferred dragonflies.
mircea_popescu: if they won't eat the cockroach, they don't have a preference, they just gave up, or whatever.
mircea_popescu: and you're way too liberal with this "oh, bigint ? sure i'll smush a string in there!"
mircea_popescu: how the hell did you end up with the idea death is ? fucking ancients knew proof to the contrary.
mircea_popescu: if you didn't know geometry known in ancient greece you'd be worried. but this ?
asciilifeform: folks of rational and upstanding character pick deaths all the time. instead of betrayal, instead of retreat, dishonour, etc.
asciilifeform: what's the problem mircea_popescu has with this ?
mircea_popescu: that whatever they pick, death isn't a present thing.
asciilifeform: as far as i can see, this is a distinction without a difference
mircea_popescu: this qualifies as insanity. wtf do you mean the realia-idealia is "distinction without a difference" ?
mircea_popescu: exact fucking definition of derealisation, as in the psychosis symptom. "can't distinguish between things present and things in own head."
asciilifeform: well i work with these for a living, what.
asciilifeform: realia with idealia welded on, if you like.
asciilifeform: (and vice-versa)
mircea_popescu: the idea is to protect yourself from workplace injuries, not to embrace them. what is this, 1800s sulphur mine kids in sicily ? hunchback and sideways ?
asciilifeform: fefelaga's blinded horse.
mircea_popescu: anyway : your death is never present to you, because for while you're here, it is not yet, and once it is, you are no more.
asciilifeform: and what of this 'not present' thing ?
asciilifeform: what practical diff it makes ?
mircea_popescu: the practical difference it makes is that if you stuprum definitions the results are - by definition - undefined. just like when you smash buffers, what you get is a no-longer-working machine. irrespective of what "practical" difference it makes understood as "i still see tiled windows so all is well"
asciilifeform: you gotta point out the absurdum yer reductio-ing this ad to.
asciilifeform: i.e. the div by 0, or overflow, etc.
mircea_popescu: going out of bounds is the exact equivalent in practice of the medieval notion of "losing communion with god". you're... lost.
asciilifeform: if no crash, the bound was no bound.
asciilifeform: that's the difference between mathematics and talmudism.
asciilifeform: because i just pissed all over 'operating machinery on sabbath' prohibition, and guess what.
asciilifeform: no crash.
asciilifeform switches on emulated mircea_popescutron, who answers with the inevitable mussolini quote
mircea_popescu: ahaha what!
mircea_popescu: so wait, wait, if "nobody's key got compromised" then koch bug was no bug ?
asciilifeform: well no, but to demonstrate the bug you gotta demonstrate the possibility.
asciilifeform: 'if planets align like-so, you get crater'
mircea_popescu: nope. it is sufficient to demonstrate incorectness.
asciilifeform: that's what incorrectness ~is~
mircea_popescu: incorectness is "your array is 4 bytes and your malloc is 2 bytes", not "if you run this code you get crater"
mircea_popescu: a deductive, not an inductive concern.
mircea_popescu: which is why all the scorn for their inevitable "oh but this rarely if ev er happens".
mircea_popescu: bitch, it dun care how often you tihnk it happens.
asciilifeform: it is trivially demonstrated that advancing pointer by 4 bt when you alloced 2 will result in unexpected behaviour.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: probably not your foray, but asking for friend. what's the best way to debug "copy_from_user" without GDB (linux syscall)?
asciilifeform: now demonstrate for the deaths thing.
mircea_popescu: your calling induction "demonstration" and you pretending a nude call as to the future counts as either doth not actually change how reason works, you know.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a nude call ?
mircea_popescu: a) your nonsense above is no demonstration ; b) my http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-27#1530301 is.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 14:40 mircea_popescu: anyway : your death is never present to you, because for while you're here, it is not yet, and once it is, you are no more.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it's a kernelism, debug the way sane people debug kernels, on emulator with gdb hose.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: and this sounds like a homework question.
mircea_popescu: a nude call is a call that is not dressed. by parts : a call is an act of judgement, what's normally called "an expert call". when you produce through human heuristic a result that'd better be good enoughy because it's all there is.
mircea_popescu: whether it's nude or dressed discusses the pacification of society. common man tends to be (through herd socialisation) ... "upset" by nudity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what'd be an example of a 'dressed call' ?
mircea_popescu: (btw since stuprum, stupeo was mentioned, let's point out to trinque that the ancient word for rape actually denotes the very benumbment in question.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most egregiously, "hussein had wmds!"
asciilifeform: and what would nude variant of this look like ?
mircea_popescu: "we gotta fuck up iraq"
mircea_popescu: no, nude isn't a pejorative, it's not better to be dressed than naked.
mircea_popescu: all calls should be as nude as possible. harem-like!
asciilifeform: the problem with the greek pov, as re-told by mircea_popescu, is that folks are still stuck logically operating on own deaths all the time, whether they like to or not.
mircea_popescu: this is not so.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the fact that folk are "stuck" operating on windows/other tiling wm "all the time" is really no excuse to smash your stack, as in
mircea_popescu: "if i make it what i think it should be it crashes"
asciilifeform: and not even only when finally eating nagant, but when weighing millimortage of whatever act.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform omfg you're going to be an unwashed pop-statistician now too ?!
asciilifeform: actuarial stat is a thing.
mircea_popescu: look here : risk, as a statistical concern, and phenomenology, as a discrete history of the world, are entirely separate domains.
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled it.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to say "most black people are uneployed". it is another thing to say "this man is unemmployed because black"
asciilifeform: nothing i said imports this nonsense.
asciilifeform: even if 10,000,001 derps connect them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform both the "milimort" nonsense and the "operate on own deaths" nonsense do. and it's not coincidental, you evidently build this crap on top of itself.
asciilifeform: say i have option of walking through 2 minefields. one with 1 booby per 10 sq. m., the other - per 20.
asciilifeform: all else - same.
asciilifeform: this, too, is 'millimort nonsense' ?
mircea_popescu: this so far is merely a minefield.
asciilifeform: or not? and if so where is the cut mircea_popescu draws.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd guess you pivoted the definition. "milimort nonsense" refers to the ridiculous pretense that statistics discusses discrete events ; it is not a proposition that statistical aproaches to risk management are infeasible or their lingo inacceptable.
asciilifeform: and incidentally i can readily see why mircea_popescu might barf at idea of millimort as applied to, e.g., road fatality
mircea_popescu: i barf at the idea that you dicking around with a statistical model has allowed you to cogently discuss the actual events.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i spend all my time counting milimorts so i know a lot about death"
asciilifeform: idea is not 'know' but specifically reasoning about it in the mine field density sense.
mircea_popescu: gtfo, by the same token elliot knows a lot about fucking ; and the exact-copies of him in charge of the circus act that in the us passes for finance now that the arabs have entirely decapitated it know a lot about bankruptcy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you aren't reasoning about IT. you're reasoning around it.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: not homework question. kid is entry level linux engineer and was like "this keeps returnngin full bytes. it won't copy"
thestringpuller: don't stab the messenger!
asciilifeform: the other observation re the greeks is that they did ~not~, by any indication, believe that a man who walks headfront into his death is necessarily acting illogically.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller don't be the messenger. kid can gpg like anyone else.
thestringpuller is too nice
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they didn't, nor do i, nor does anyone capable of thinking.
asciilifeform: so how does this square up with the 'not present' item ?
mircea_popescu: that it's present to you dun mean it's present to them.
mircea_popescu: which is why "life" scarcely prepares one for leadership.
mircea_popescu: also known as "i see dead people."
asciilifeform: ability to usefully juggle idealia, and not only realia, is what distinguishes man from dog.
asciilifeform: including the ideal of his own burning corpse, yes.
mircea_popescu: usefully, as a byproduct of correctly.
mircea_popescu: usefully at the destruction of correctly is pretty much the "western world" example.
asciilifeform: i don't partake in the 'aristotelian' notion of correctness - 'do this because fella with a beard 3 metres long said it to be correct'. gotta show example of the kind of disaster one might arrive at via the incorrectness.
asciilifeform: 'fella thought that 1==2 and looky how long are his guts'
mircea_popescu: the field is not "argument from authority"
mircea_popescu: the field is not "argument from authority or argument from induction"
mircea_popescu: the field is "deduction, or induction"
mircea_popescu: no example is required to decide any dispute. the example is a teaching tool, not a reasoning tool.
asciilifeform: incidentally, does mircea_popescu also object to manipulations on, e.g., complex numbers ?
asciilifeform: just as much 'nonpresent idealia', neh ?
mircea_popescu: what's "manipulation" to do with it ? if you claimed you sat down to have tea with some complex numbers, i'd point out the batshit insanity of that notion just like above, yes.
asciilifeform: everybody who builds, e.g., 3phase motor, 'sits down for tea with complex numbers'
mircea_popescu: this is not so.
asciilifeform: plox to expand on this ?
mircea_popescu: but i am starting to udnerstand why ~any math phd i ever encountered has major social function issues.
asciilifeform: is it simply that engineer, at the end of the day, puts the complex nums back into their drawers ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a man who is a plumber is not by this measure "a plague victim". yes, the man works in shit all day. but : he does the work in shit with shit tools, and then he presumably eats with eat tools. he doesn't mix the two.
asciilifeform: rather than ask machinist to cut a complex length of steel
mircea_popescu: there's a long history of playing fast and loose with domain before one arrives at this wretched state where he "prefers complex numbers".
asciilifeform: i will not disagree that if engineer gets up from his desk and asks for a sqrt(-2)-metre long stick, he has problem.
mircea_popescu: the notion that one "prefers death" is very similar to "cut me e length of rope"
mircea_popescu: yes, "obvicously" what's "meant" is an approximation. then through practice that obvious goes away, much like rubber gloves one never changes or reviews,
mircea_popescu: soon enough you're labsick and "i wonder why".
mircea_popescu: why. because gotta keep work hygiene, is why!
asciilifeform: typically 'prefer death', for soldier who won't retreat, or whoever, is simply a fallthrough case in a switch(), if you will
asciilifeform: from refusal to take whatever else is on the table.
mircea_popescu: yes, but it induces a whole slew of shit that then passes for thought.
mircea_popescu: much like badly designed code, yes.,
asciilifeform: and i can even see where mircea_popescu makes the cut, 'this is not same as to prefer the death'
asciilifeform: what i cannot yet see is why.
mircea_popescu: you can't prefer among a set with cardinality less than two, that's why. sure, your identity may require you to not do x. this is fine, BUT IT IS ALSO NOT A PREFERENCE. it's your identity.
mircea_popescu: the buddhist monk rescuing scorpion koan is directly linked here.
asciilifeform: what's identity if not a set of deep habits
asciilifeform: and doesn't mircea_popescu surgically operate on identities in his spare time every night ?
mircea_popescu: if identity is in fact "a set of deep habits" then you are a woman in the greek sense of that term ; and moreover i have nfi why you wouldn't be happy in the inca state.
mircea_popescu: i do, but to quote myself, "Grecii sunt scutul, nu sulita, ca de obicei exact altfel, exact invers, exact pe dos decat ne asteptam noi, in convingerea noastra ca i-am inteles. Si ca de obicei, au dreptate."
asciilifeform: hey, pitch is a liquid.
asciilifeform: dun mean you can go and pour a glass.
asciilifeform: (glass, contrary to the mysteriously popular delusion, is ~not~ a liquid)
mircea_popescu: but for everyone else, identity is a deductive result, which is why there can't be such a thing as "an example of you"
asciilifeform: i was referring to identity in the psychiatric, rather than mathematical sense.
asciilifeform: i dunno that it even makes sense to attempt rigorous def of this 'identity', at least in any more detail than we define 'earth's crust' -- 'the layer we can drill without the drill melting'
mircea_popescu: which is why it takes man his entire life to find out who he is.
asciilifeform: supposing he even does.
mats: if there are any folks still looking to exit their s.nsa holdings, i would like to discuss buying your shares
mats: and on a similar subject, do you folks suppose there'll delivery of cardanos this xmas?
mod6: $orders
shinohai imagines mats making keyserver tied to s.nsa
asciilifeform: 'GnuPG maintainer Werner Koch presented the Sunday keynote at GUADEC 2016 in Karlsruhe, Germany. He used the session to push back against the present trends in Internet architecture ... '
asciilifeform: yes, that koch.
asciilifeform: mats: i would buy yours if i had in what to put.
asciilifeform: ( i do not have an mpex acct. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-27#1530431 << 'keyserver' is a fundamentally braindamaged concept.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 17:53 shinohai imagines mats making keyserver tied to s.nsa
asciilifeform: emulated mircea_popescutron sayeth: 'nobody said that letting go of comfortable centralization would be easy.'
mod6: <+mats> if there are any folks still looking to exit their s.nsa holdings, i would like to discuss buying your shares <+asciilifeform> mats: i would buy yours if i had in what to put. << looks like he's trying to buy, not sell.
mod6: it'd be cool if we had or own TMSR orderbook.
asciilifeform: well this is for when he buys and gets tired!111
mod6: ah.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://archive.is/rrvO9 << vintage rodgerism lulz
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski You would be pround to know I am now that asshole who brings his own oil to quick change place and tips the labor.
mircea_popescu: oh, next installment coming soonish too
asciilifeform: i think gribble needs an oil change
BingoBoingo: As plasticar approaches 200,000 miles I kinda wanna see if 300,000 is possibru
mircea_popescu: gribble's unvoiced, plox to use shinohai s' thing
BingoBoingo: ~later tell pete_dushenski You would be pround to know I am now that asshole who brings his own oil to quick change place and tips the labor.
danielpbarron: !later tell asciilifeform it's jhvh1 now
asciilifeform: moar recent völkischer beobachter lulz, https://archive.is/Y7pfH >> 'Federal agents searched the home of a former employee-turned-outspoken critic of the College Board, the standardized testing giant, as part of an investigation into the breach of hundreds of questions from the SAT college entrance exam.'
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: interestingly, message came out of... gribble?!
danielpbarron: the command character is still being sorted out i think, and ! also triggers gribble who apparently still takes orders even though muted
asciilifeform: 'Alfaro had contacted officials of seven state governments in recent months, accusing the College Board of making false claims about its tests when bidding for public contracts with the states. The College Board, he alleged, misled the states about the process it used to create questions for the new version of the SAT, resulting in an inferior exam. He also aired those allegations publicly, largely through postings on his LinkedIn ac
asciilifeform: count. Lawyers for Alfaro could not be reached for comment. An FBI official confirmed that agents were present at Alfaro’s home in Maryland but declined to elaborate. College Board spokesman Zach Goldberg said the leak of test questions constituted a crime. “We are pleased that this crime is being pursued aggressively,” he said. He dismissed Alfaro’s criticisms of the SAT test-making process as “patently false.”'
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-seven/ << Trilema - The Story of Elliot Rodger. By Elliot Rodger. Adnotated. Part Seven.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/argentine-government-and-monsanto-approaching-peace-deal/ << Qntra - Argentine Government And Monsanto Approaching Peace Deal
asciilifeform: in other lulz, invoking, md5 hash, using microshit winblowz api, apparently only saves ~half of the lines it takes to write the algo from scratch...
asciilifeform: (and about 10x the memory footprint. COST, not save. aha.)
mircea_popescu: which algo ?
BingoBoingo: $s noose
mircea_popescu: and in other high performance piston engine news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1lu2vlkzs1qgnlnoo1_500.gif and did you know the worldwide cunt economy is 18.5 liters / 100km ?
shinohai: > is command until I can apply lobbes fix
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
shinohai: >bcstats
jhvh1: shinohai: Current Blocks: 427118 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 273 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 22 hours, 8 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 20:26 mircea_popescu: which algo ?
asciilifeform: 'We can sometimes see decades-old capacitors (such as ones made in the USSR) still working. They are bigger and heavier, but durable and not desiccating. Modern aluminium capacitors serve for about 11 years, if you are lucky, then become dry and quietly fail. I remember early 2000s devices where capacitors failed after 3–4 years of service, and not necessarily low-end devices (one example is E-TECH ICE-200 cable modem worth ∼ 240
asciilifeform: rs became a commonplace, something uncharacteristic for 1980s.'
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-3-tmr/ << Qntra - Not Quite News Roundup Xtend 3 (TM)(R)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-27#1530468 << oh better still, it takes no fewer than THREE api calls, any or all of which MAY FAIL.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 20:22 asciilifeform: in other lulz, invoking, md5 hash, using microshit winblowz api, apparently only saves ~half of the lines it takes to write the algo from scratch...
asciilifeform: i shit thee not.
asciilifeform: re the capacitors, the chinese story is a lie of omission, i've been swapping caps routinely in hardware made since 1990 or so.
asciilifeform: the 'great plague of 2001' is factual but wholly incomplete picture.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not newsworthy per se, it's the aparatchicks boiling and festering over some means of jumping ship
BingoBoingo: "On weekend nights, I took a few shots from my vodka bottle and set out on walks around the town, desperately hoping that I would stumble across some opportunity to make friends. I often ended up sitting alone at some café, hoping girls would talk to me before I sobered up." << Doing it wrong. SHould have drank the whole bottle.
mircea_popescu: it's clear to them survival depends on switching over to china - this boat they've managed to sunk.
mircea_popescu: it's yet unclear to them that china already has its own class.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the tampons?! how?
mircea_popescu: no dude, the "feminism"
asciilifeform: switch how? to move there?
mircea_popescu: eh, how. in whichever way.
asciilifeform: i cannot picture anyone, even anglotards, conceiving of such a thing.
mircea_popescu: ideally, if the chinese govt would just give them money to keep doing what they're doing.
asciilifeform: that boat sailed in the 1890s.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how this works.
asciilifeform: possibly not
asciilifeform: i could see'em positioning themselves as prospective gauleiters for chinese repo crew.
asciilifeform: but in what imagined universe said crew might conceivably ~need~ these remoras for something, is beyond me
mircea_popescu: you keep going on about the wrong angle of this.
mircea_popescu: dude, who the fuck cares about all that ? not elliot. he cares about what he WANTS
mircea_popescu: get it ? that. no more. nothing more.
asciilifeform: well yes. but elliot at least showed up where there were gurlz. not in refrigerator store.
mircea_popescu: absolutely nothing more at all not in the slightest bit ever, at all.
mircea_popescu: he showed ~wherever he happened to anyway be going~.
mircea_popescu: same with these other, lesser elliots and elliettes.
asciilifeform: text contains multiple 'and then i went to this empty street because saw girl there once'
mircea_popescu: they write "news" in theguardian about how the chinese should give them moar attentions, and a car.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but what he says he does and what he actually does are not so related. he only goes to the streets he'd be going.
mircea_popescu: ie, theguardian. sure, "because we saw chinese people there once", if you prefer this because. and if you'd like another, he got others. what ain't changing is teh fucking guardian.
BingoBoingo: "Their names were Ryan and Angel, and to my dismay they were of Hispanic race." << Gardening 101: to kill scale bugs use potassium soap, to kill fungi use copper soap, to kill Anglotards use sopapillas
BingoBoingo: "James became deeply disturbed by my anger. I wished that he wasn’t disturbed. I wished he could be a friend that felt the same way about the world that I did. But he wasn’t that kind of person. He was a weakling." << Twu Wuv
BingoBoingo: ~ticker --market all
BingoBoingo: >ticker --market all --currency rmb
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 3790.93, vol: 73664.99830000 | Volume-weighted last average: 3790.93
BingoBoingo: >ty jhvh1 ;
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "ty" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: You're missing a command. ">ty" should be answered with "You are very welcome Daddy"
shinohai: lolz
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy
BingoBoingo: Very good
shinohai: also haz an experimental >bash script
shinohai: >bash 4
jhvh1: Last 4 lines bashed and pending publication
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao sopapilla
mircea_popescu: shinohai why does your bot sound like a submissive streetwalker ?
shinohai: gotta learn that variety speak
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/IKX4c << further dispatches from the bureau of wishful thinking
asciilifeform: 'The bigger problem for China is its workforce. Even though China is graduating far more than 1 million engineers every year, the quality of their education is so poor that they are not employable in technical professions. This was documented by my research teams at Duke and Harvard. ' << gold.
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt there will be a signle employable engineer graduating from ivy league this year.
asciilifeform: not so many a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: community colleges still turn out the occasional useful bloke, but really, there's no comparison with china.
mircea_popescu: >buttseks
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "buttseks" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: No closing quotation
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "\"" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: re chinese engineering, i had a float valve, of the usual type, in toilet - EXPLODE the other day
asciilifeform: thing was <1y old.
mircea_popescu: what was it filled with ?
asciilifeform: filled ?
asciilifeform: it's a float valve. it lives whatever pressure the water pipe supplies.
mircea_popescu: oh i thought you meant the actual floating device
asciilifeform: the plastic stem ruptured.
asciilifeform: never seen anything of the kind before.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's knife (i also had this knife) or my saw from 2 wks ago, these made sense, the mechanical forces on the atrocious dried snot from which they were made, were formidable
asciilifeform: but this - is a new thing.
asciilifeform: i suspect that it actually... dissolved.
asciilifeform: the wc in the flat i grew up in, back on other side of ocean, was 100+ years old. and had ORIGINAL float when i met it. grandfather - cleaned it. copper thing, ancient with patina, quite functional
asciilifeform: i would bet that it is there still.
asciilifeform: there is no reason for this part to wear out other than on ~geological~ time scale.
mircea_popescu: just about.
BingoBoingo: Did you try casting a replacement out of pewter?
BingoBoingo: Possible that mebbe your local water system sucks and the pressure spiked to break the plastic.
BingoBoingo: Occasionally neighborhoods in USia will experience much broken plasic and galvanized material when pressure goes from reasonable 40-90 psi to 140-240 psi.
BingoBoingo: Welcome to post-Rhodesian infrastructure.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 00:37 BingoBoingo: Did you try casting a replacement out of pewter?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: yes. You don't drink out of toilet do you? Lead should be no concern.
BingoBoingo: shape to fit with emery, cloth, and patience
asciilifeform: aaaaha i'ma spend a month on a $5 part. suuuure.
BingoBoingo: But if it were a capacitor!
asciilifeform: (and shit in bucket while working, yes)
asciilifeform: i dun make capacitors here, either,
asciilifeform: life is not long enough to make own valves.
asciilifeform: (betcha gabriel_laddel makes valves. and nails)
asciilifeform: cuts, aha, own screws.
hanbot: asciilifeform perhaps the mongoloids merely sealed your valve completely with their affronts to geometry.
asciilifeform does often wonder whether there exists a black market in old-new stock parts such as toilet valve.
hanbot is having a fit of ignatius j. reilly-isms doubtlessly conjured up by the current trilema rodger telenovella
asciilifeform: 'pssst hey kid, wanna buy 100year float??'
BingoBoingo: >bc,stats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "bc,stats" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: >bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 427139 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 252 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 19 hours, 12 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy
shinohai: >lazerkittens
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "lazerkittens" is not a valid command.
shinohai: BingoBoingo:
shinohai: >roundhouse
jhvh1: And so I called the Roundhouse the Roundhouse
BingoBoingo: > My Belongings
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "My" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: >My Belongings
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "My" is not a valid command.
shinohai: yeah ill change it to be error
BingoBoingo: >puppies
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "puppies" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: $up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: lemme guess, no key?
BingoBoingo: Oh the lawgz
gabriel_laddel: $s 1-5 months
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-28#1530583 < I have nfi what this is supposed to mean?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 00:46 asciilifeform: (betcha gabriel_laddel makes valves. and nails)
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: young folk with time on their hands.
mircea_popescu: alf's humour is often hermetic.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: when you're a student and time is 'worth 0', you do things like making own lab instruments out of rubbish
asciilifeform: 'i want a waveform generator box, i could spend fiddybux on it instead of drink, or hey! neighbour threw out tape deck and...'
asciilifeform: $up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1530024 < I'm flattered, thank you.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 17:25 mircea_popescu: has anyone a spare bedroom/garage/whatever willing to rent to me for a reasoble sum and park gabriel there for a few months ?
mircea_popescu: not much in the way of offers so far.
BingoBoingo: If gabriel_laddel's stimulant habits didn't seem so threatening to the sobriety there might be an offer, but I doubt he'd approve of my rural spider hole.
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