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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in your dreams, white boy.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not even that ; i see nothing here but george costanza's retort to the observation he did no work : "but consider, i am in the smaller office". the chick's not hot, she's average at best. her face's all weird etc. BUT! she makes her own costumes! out of construction paper!
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: just the geniuses who accepted payment via natobank
mircea_popescu: she's ~the chick that gives sorry excuses of teethy blowjobs and buys you beer
asciilifeform: hey it was in völkischer beobachter, must be fact!11111
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: there is still 2 or three years of these wunkderkids for the mpaa to chew through before cockboxmaster or ($seen) Framedragger get their butts off the couch and make a wot-blessed tracker
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes as to the other point - fetishism is still unhealthy. samatha fox was, sex toy or no, still samatha fox. and if someone cornered her in a dark alley and stuck it in her, the rape happened to samantha.
mircea_popescu: but princess leila ? poor her.
ben_vulpes: leila's rape being the ip infringement?
mircea_popescu: do you perceive the difference between "im raping you because i think you're fucking hot" and "i'm raping you because i'm fixated on a character i've decided you represent" ?
mircea_popescu: pro tip : the former don't usually figure in serial killing files. the latter rarely don't figure in serial killing profiles.
asciilifeform: does it make substantial difference to the rapee?
asciilifeform: this why
ben_vulpes: that's kind of where i'm stuck too
mircea_popescu: i think so, yes.
ben_vulpes: maybe the latter is more likely to actually get knifed at the end?
ben_vulpes: by mircea_popescu's claim
mircea_popescu: for one thing. but even without that...insanity is never a good thing in the mix.
ben_vulpes: yeah but homegirl /just got raped/
mircea_popescu: still not the same.
mircea_popescu: i posit a good comparison is "tb patient spit in your mouth. does it make a difference if you have aids ?"
ben_vulpes: what same, few girls conniseurs of the act.
mircea_popescu: "ewww, spit in mouth" "yes, yes... but..."
ben_vulpes: "you got raped. does it make a difference that you were dressed in your leila costume?"?
mircea_popescu: take one single point of reference, i think it works pars pro toto : "She says that entrepreneurs need to have a thick skin. “Just don’t care” is her advice. She says you need to just keep going – remember, the internet is a cruel and malicious place for a girl in a bikini top and elf ears."
mircea_popescu: the previous set were all about "love and open up to the world and blablabla"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but she's not merely DRESSED in the costume.
ben_vulpes: what praytell is she
mircea_popescu: nothing. that's the problem. "but the vast majority who have aligned their psychology with this vector will pursue an impossible fantasy at the expense of their labor and their lives." is the ballas quote.
mircea_popescu: there's no difference between girl who's not hot squeaking her way into modelling job because she's willing to make her own costumes, and that misfortunate math assistant professor i mentioned yonder long ago in the logs and alf prolly still remembers.
mircea_popescu: insanity is never a good thing in the mix.
asciilifeform: $s she's a furniture
mircea_popescu: what was it, 2014 maybe ?
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:15 mircea_popescu: now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go.
asciilifeform: sooo the contemplated model has 'princess leia' in the role of visual basic? elevating the marginal?
asciilifeform: to 'enough to be danger to self and others'
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't say elevating. it's an elevator shaft, it ... you know what ? it's mcdevil quickfaust, is what it is.
mircea_popescu: allows people to sell their soul, quick and cheap.
mircea_popescu: if you're gonna sell it, at least sell it in a ditch, fighting to exterminate the jews or to not exterminate the jews or something.
mircea_popescu: ya know ?
BingoBoingo: OMG you stole the name I was gonna give woodchipper when I pick one up
BingoBoingo: Put sign on chipper "Insert Hand for Wish Evaluation"
asciilifeform: lel just as mircea_popescu mentioned jooz i happened to be reading bio of streicher.
mircea_popescu: lulzy thing with him. "why did they draw a hitler moustache on him ??" "nono, he ~wore~ that. it was a fashion at the time. like bell bottoms." "ooh"
ben_vulpes: eeeeeentirely unrelatedly, mircea_popescu is there a way to set post slugs in mp-wp?
mircea_popescu: what's a post slug ?
ben_vulpes: blog/<slug>
ben_vulpes: you know, in case one might want to preserve previous urls
mircea_popescu: look for any time i typoed a title. the old url still works.
mircea_popescu: a yes, you can name the url anything you wish, just click on it under the title when editing an article
ben_vulpes: cool permalink shows up in source but not on the page
mircea_popescu: see in settings, permalinks
mircea_popescu: custom structure, /%year%/%postname%/
mircea_popescu: then it should do it.
ben_vulpes: sweet
ben_vulpes: danke
ben_vulpes: hm so would it be possible to keep the year/month/ for most post titles but override it on a per-post basis
mircea_popescu: likely, but as i've never needed to i don't have it at the ready.
ben_vulpes: so here's a dumblarious notion: move all the old html into the webserver root to preserve links, and then make a dummy post for each page that redirects to the correct flat html file
ben_vulpes: part a is trivial, and works, but oh man part b
mircea_popescu: eh just put a htaccess rule from old to new name scheme
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518208 << yes. see : http://trilema.com/2014/consent-is-a-myth-lets-see-how-it-came-to-be/ >> It'd be nice, you know, if one didn't have to go to work encased in ballistic armor, if one didn't have to probe all food items for shit, and if one could rely on the notion that if on the receiving end of a sexual proposition, that proposition stems from something direct rather than from some sort of met
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 04:07 asciilifeform: does it make substantial difference to the rapee?
mircea_popescu: "if i hang, let it be for something i did"
ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/9uTWt << dig the sweet aqua ui widgetry
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 424667 | Current Difficulty: 2.0189321085305896E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 425375 | Next Difficulty In: 708 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 6 hours, 48 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 591.55, vol: 5162.64618537 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 587.001, vol: 11302.10087 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 591.5, vol: 30145.15648888 | GDAX BTCUSD last: 593.98, vol: 8502.30713739 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 597.334111, vol: 96760.28270000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 593.32, vol: 1829.30723989 | Gemini BTCUSD last: 595.94, vol: 1220.13295715 | OKCoin BTCUSD last: 597.483304, vol: (1 more message)
diana_coman: $key DarkSonic1338
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2016/08/10/ircbot-genesis/ << trinque - ircbot-genesis.vpatch
trinque: ty mircea_popescu for the blogotron.
thestringpuller: now you gotta blog everyday!
thestringpuller isn't kidding' anyone. he misses days nonstop.
trinque: I have a backlog of ~/src that'll get me through at least a coupla days :p
asciilifeform: congrats trinque !
trinque: ty asciilifeform
asciilifeform: sooo i attempted test of https://protonmail.com/blog/openpgpjs-email-encryption as a suspected http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514630 , and discovered that it is plain and simple nonsense, won't import public keys at all! uses only pantomime of pgp
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 15:38 asciilifeform: 'though the pgp keys in question do not import into gpg, they can be imported in a couple javascript pgp-trons: https://www.igolder.com/PGP/encryption/ and http://ianpurton.com/online-pgp/ ...'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al ^
asciilifeform: it ~exports~ user's pubkey, but does not - as far as i can tell - have a knob for ~importing pubkeys~, checking signatures of incoming messages, etc.
asciilifeform: 'trade power for the fetish of power' (tm) (r) (tlp).
thestringpuller: you really trust ~anything~ written in javascript?
asciilifeform: as if browser-based crapola weren't bad enough
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i was testing it as a potential eater of khadeer-style keys.
asciilifeform: recall, searching for pgptrons which accept malsigned or otherwise malformed pubkeys.
asciilifeform: initially i missed the www-based crapolade entirely, because it simply did not occur to me that any serious number of people were dumb enough to ~use~ such a thing
asciilifeform: and that anyone might bother targeting it specifically.
thestringpuller: jgarzik was pushing opengpgjs for years
thestringpuller: until he made that tweet danielpbarron archived "gpg needs to die cause grandma can't use it"
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: do you know of a place where one can conveniently test, without putting in actual work, what pubkeys the thing eats ?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A15EACE4291DE6EAFA302572F54E054491218AF959463E119A212D1F84EAD475 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 145544767271628355021138948218065922887438243793500802858250927035792218021368837104580302613837780224469761940120270148077180710981969418009963290863877670291808435992750304731263006678948717022881724044383602277016851556973015660700026601928834951780095058287489657831666623472681031667044818814731200102877 divides RS
thestringpuller: i've never used opengpg.js but most of those things have some kind of "demo" version so you don't have to touch the code yourself without gloves
asciilifeform: lel for a second i almost expected ^ that to be the protonmail turd i threw in.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it doesn't appear to
asciilifeform: anyone willing to test ?
asciilifeform: ( http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6BFB175C42F58F1ABF33255B7DD755C4DE78E5294765EDDBBED2F4B8FDE6B3CF , for the record. and no, they don't let luser adjust key size, it is always 2048, nor the hash - it is always sha256, nor any other knobs save for the username )
phf: i never grok why some of these javascript libraries don't just provide a demo console. "everything you need is loaded on this page, feel free to run your browser's dev console"
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A15EACE4291DE6EAFA302572F54E054491218AF959463E119A212D1F84EAD475 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 145544767271628355021138948218065922887438243793500802858250927035792218021368837104580302613837780224469761940120270148077180710981969418009963290863877670291808435992750304731263006678948717022881724044383602277016851556973015660700026601928834951780095058287489657831666623472681031667044818814731200102877 divides RS
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CDA444B217B93BD108B3681B3E46D2F81DDE108A156E84E696789DB8D3074A06 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 145544767271628355021138948218065922887438243793500802858250927035792218021368837104580302613837780224469761940120270148077180710981969418009963290863877670291808435992750304731263006678948717022881724044383602277016851556973015660700026601928834951780095058287489657831666623472681031667044818814731200102877 divides RS
asciilifeform: phf: the ones linked earlier (and now referred to in phuctor faq) do.
phf: i don't think it's the same beast as openpgpjs, since the later does seem to support keys
asciilifeform: phf: it would appear that openwhateverjs supports all of the basic knobs, but the protonmail idiocy did not bother to expose them
phf: cute, protonmail spits "We're hiring! https://protonmail.com/careers" into console
asciilifeform: A15E... , CDA4..., << incidentally, venezuela.
phf: how do i convert a binary key to its armorerd counterpart, without importing into keyring?
asciilifeform: phuctor doesn't shit out 'binary' keys
asciilifeform: or is this from some other place
asciilifeform: iirc it was something like gpg --enarmor foo.gpg
asciilifeform: but if you're using a key exported from phuctor, you never need to do this
asciilifeform: (or from sks, or any sane place)
phf: phuctor seems to be producing "armored files" of keys, where's openpgpjs expectes it to be in "public key block" format
asciilifeform: phf: link to which key ?
asciilifeform: see, each key is what came out of sks or whoever dumped it in.
asciilifeform: in this case, you can replace the header only
asciilifeform: and it will work.
phf: ah
phf: well, i can read the key with proton's opengpg implementation, can't generate one though
asciilifeform: read, and encrypt to it ?
asciilifeform: and try verify sigs, etc ?
trinque: o.O
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, apparently the word 'screw' is censored by some idiot forum app, http://www.foundcollection.com/15_7ebad456d0b67430_1.htm
asciilifeform: 'It's annoying to deal with because the motor has to be loosened so that the belt can be removed so that one can get to the set ***on the pulley. If you have the same problem be forewarned that there is a small flat on the spindle shaft that the set***should be aligned with.'
asciilifeform: the well of idiocy is truly bottomless.
mircea_popescu: o hallo alf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu !
mircea_popescu: nice fat factors this morn eh.
asciilifeform: the usual 2.
mircea_popescu: i think this may be the longest yet neh ?
mircea_popescu: 311 digits ? we got longer ?
asciilifeform: champ : 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337
asciilifeform: (aug. 1)
asciilifeform: today's is in third place.
asciilifeform: after 115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577
asciilifeform: (april the 30th, 2016)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 19:47 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '<>&%"\${}`'deadbeef1; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/617706D7A6FC1817D01
a111: Logged on 2015-08-26 14:42 asciilifeform: gcd==115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577
asciilifeform: ^ looks like it was in classic phuctor's set
asciilifeform: so today's is the longest ssh mod busted yet.
asciilifeform: (as neither the gold nor silver medalist was an ssh mod)
asciilifeform: 'Egypt’s central bank has closed 48 foreign exchange bureaus since the start of the year for trading at black market rates and other violations, banking sources said on Wednesday, as the country tries to end speculation against the Egyptian pound. Egypt has accelerated a crackdown against black market traders it blames for growing pressure to devalue the currency. The dollar is being sold on the black market for about 12.65 to 12.7
asciilifeform: 5 Egyptian pounds, according to traders, far more than the official rate of 8.78.'
mircea_popescu: aha. so there.
mircea_popescu: ftr it was 5.5 in 2004. so this would be 250% inflation over a little more than a decade.
PeterL: on top of US inflation
mircea_popescu: let it be noted that in a deeply conservative (this means things other than you think - it mostly means stupid, lazy males), mostly rural society inflation is actually a good thing
mircea_popescu: as it dislodges the meat robots from their comforts and forces them into towns.
asciilifeform: stalin waves hello
mircea_popescu: quite so.
mircea_popescu: also how france beat germany in 1800s : inflation was actually a useful governance tool.
asciilifeform: inflation was not a plague dropped down by martians, no.
asciilifeform: rather, sorta the macroeconomic version of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-05#1515459 .
a111: Logged on 2016-08-05 14:26 asciilifeform: tape speed knob did not make the beatles, nor dope made erdos.
covertress wishes she had more time to join in such discussions. ^ fascinating.
covertress: good day, mircea_popescu. excuse me please, I'm merely passing through.
covertress: mircea_popescu, by chance might there be an opportunity for us to meet, either in Toronto (17-18 Aug) or in Shanghai (18-25 Sept)?
covertress: alternately Luxembourg next April
mircea_popescu: or you could just come to ba.
covertress: perhaps then, as I travel through Europe next year.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu will have to remember to move ba to europe...
asciilifeform: (hopefully he has not misplaced its ignition key)
covertress: lulz all you like, asciilifeform, just implied that it would be in closer proximity
trinque: than?!
covertress: than Shanghai, trinque
mircea_popescu: ba is buenos aires.
mircea_popescu: though it'd appear i'd have liked it better back when it was buenos ayres.
covertress: thank you, mircea_popescu. my apologies. did not know the reference. :O
mircea_popescu: you're lucky with me ; the locals call it "caba". because see, ciudad autonoma!
PeterL: BA and Europe both touch Atlantic, therefore they must be nearby each other
shinohai should make a white supremacy group and call it "Buenas Aryans"
mircea_popescu: shinohai why not buenas aryanas ?
mircea_popescu: could be a white-sexual-supremacy group.
shinohai: aha!
covertress: I'll be in touch, mircea_popescu. Perhaps I can alter my return plans from Shanghai.
mircea_popescu: $google "italians do it better"
deedbot: http://italiansdoitbetter.bigcartel.com/ << Italians Do It Better — Home | https://www.facebook.com/ITALIANSDOITBETTER/ << ITALIANS DO IT BETTER | Facebook | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians_Do_It_Better << Italians Do It Better - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
covertress waves bye. must run!
mircea_popescu: (ftr, they'd better do IT better, god knows they suck at everything else)
asciilifeform: giro, giro tondo!1111212121
asciilifeform: for some reason ^ is symlinked in my head to kurt vonnegut's 'round and round and round we spin, with feet of lead and wings of tin'
mircea_popescu: justabout, really.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 14:32 trinque: ty mircea_popescu for the blogotron.
mircea_popescu: covertress what's the rush anyway.
mircea_popescu: teh impossible vector beckons ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518287 << yeah, get back to me after a year. which, here like in classical college education, is teh minimal qual.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 14:37 trinque: I have a backlog of ~/src that'll get me through at least a coupla days :p
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518290 << js crypto ? really ? god help us.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 14:53 asciilifeform: sooo i attempted test of https://protonmail.com/blog/openpgpjs-email-encryption as a suspected http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514630 , and discovered that it is plain and simple nonsense, won't import public keys at all! uses only pantomime of pgp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see the 'added to faq' thread.
asciilifeform: right now it is the strongest suspect for 'eats rubbish keys'
mircea_popescu: im gettin' there.
asciilifeform: (no version of, e.g., gpg, appears to)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 15:11 phf: i never grok why some of these javascript libraries don't just provide a demo console. "everything you need is loaded on this page, feel free to run your browser's dev console"
covertress: no particular rush, mircea_pepescu, at least from your perspective.
mircea_popescu: hey, you said you gotta run. i gather you aim to be a sort of project manager for some eth fork whatever - bear in mind that nobody ever respects the rushed. you want people to look up to you, never run.
covertress: apologies again but, I have many logistics to rush towards completion prior to my travels. I do not have a secretary yet.
covertress: thank you for the lessson.
covertress: I must indeed go now. Appointments await.
covertress: good day, mircea_popescu :)
mircea_popescu: cheerios.
thestringpuller: secretaries are so corporate. what you need is a chief of staff.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wtf - censored "screw" ? really ? what's next, do bolt and nail also, be done with it ?
mircea_popescu: joining things together is so oppressive and antilibertarian! all parts must float free into the sunset!
asciilifeform: next to go: 'nail'.
asciilifeform: (hey, one can nail people as well as screw, etc)
mircea_popescu: rifles don't kill people, BOLTS KILL PEOPLE
asciilifeform: nailgunz dun kill people, nails...
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-irc-so-hard/ << Trilema - Why is IRC so hard ?
asciilifeform: they even substituted '***', and not '*****'
mircea_popescu: eerily related to trilema article deedbot spit out.
mircea_popescu: "How does the bitter black fungus keep out the tasty lactic bacteria ? Certainly not directly ; it's a terraforming process you see. Which is why you can't "just want to" : either you permit it or you don't permit it. There's no third option available."
mircea_popescu: obviously, the managerial imbecile didn't specifically aim to make life hard for engineers. nevertheless - it's either one or the other, and if you're not actively oppressing people who know how things should be, you're then therefore actively oppressing people who are curious as to how things actually are.
mircea_popescu: there just isn't a third road.
mircea_popescu: answer't!
shinohai: Speaking of "Why is irc so hard" you have another incoming Colombian slut mircea_popescu
shinohai: $up melissasexy
deedbot: melissasexy voiced for 30 minutes.
melissasexy: Hola mircea_popescu aqui estoy para http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-t
mircea_popescu: escribe b58fe7aa sur su tetas melissasexy
mircea_popescu: sur lol. sobre.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/overheard-in-my-kitchen/ << Trilema - Overheard in my kitchen
asciilifeform: sc4m!11111 i see 0.5 tit
asciilifeform: y'know, posting 0.5 tit twice, or even 4x, doesn't add up to 1.0 tit
mircea_popescu: melissasexy yeah that's not right. look at the other girls, do the same thing.
mircea_popescu: shinohai say it en espanol por favor.
shinohai: On it
asciilifeform: melissasexy: dos tetas completas por favor.
mircea_popescu: nice. address ?
melissasexy: 1K266dX8wLM1Fi63C1GeaA8DwAGdLH6BPo
mircea_popescu: shinohai with all this herding experience you're accumulating, you'll be ready to start your own brothel in no time.
melissasexy: gracias
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/ << trinque - logbot-genesis.vpatch
shinohai: mircea_popescu: :D
shinohai: Sent me an email asking if id help xD
mircea_popescu: check out that wall behind her ; somewhere in colombia there is this multi-layered cam-whoring building, fo sho.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like an indian call center except the girls are naked and instead of chair there's a ~mat.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/#comment-118463 << adjusting payout to 2 bitcents.
shinohai: Ah so she was the last luck girl to get 0.1?
mircea_popescu: hey, they had two years to get shit in order.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518471 << this is mighty spiffy trinque. is this based on phf's gadget, or a new thing ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 17:50 deedbot: http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/ << trinque - logbot-genesis.vpatch
trinque: asciilifeform: phf contributed some code that was modified a bit and placed in ircbot
trinque: logbot's something other than a111
asciilifeform: very neat.
phf: though a111 now looks pretty much the same, since i copy pasted a bunch of code
asciilifeform: btw trinque is the 'mp-wp' you are using available somewhere ?
asciilifeform: i would like to crib it.
trinque: asciilifeform: isn't, but I can package it up later. I hand-applied phf's patch to a custom skin mangled from the "classic" skin.
phf: originally i was trying to tame the complexity of all the auth/ghost/join blah by having a state machine, but it got unmanageable, so i unded up dropping back to same approach as in logbot
asciilifeform: exactly what i tried to do in july, but it turned to shit in my midas hands
asciilifeform: (re mpwp)
trinque: I channeled my inner php shitlord and got it to work
asciilifeform was ruined for wwwism by programming on systems having actual debuggers...
trinque: imagine my wonder going the other direction :p
asciilifeform: it is a handicap that is perhaps curable, but do i ~want~ it cured.
asciilifeform: as naggum put it, 'do i want to learn to run the deep-fryer ?'
trinque: this is why I went ahead and installed wp-mp instead of finishing the lispy thing I was hacking together.
trinque: web needs to die, not be fixed
trinque: to be replaced by gossiptronic "hey does anyone have the doc with hash X" say
asciilifeform: trinque: 'get doc from dht' is right and proper, but says nothing about the format of said doc
ben_vulpes: "no formats, no format wars!"
mats: i feel that
ben_vulpes: anyways, i am *still* looking for the comment-fixin patch
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: right, on lispm.
ben_vulpes: but have a mountain of shit to move, and it's not like it's a blocker in any regard
asciilifeform: didn't ben_vulpes already have a blogotron ?
asciilifeform: what was it made of ?
asciilifeform: mats: Bellarmine highschool! l0l! do tell me that it was named for the cardinal
mats: it's a Catholic prep school iirc so probably
asciilifeform: si muove!11111111
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: heinous org export
asciilifeform: i wanna take astronomy class at bellarmine.
asciilifeform: dontcha ?
trinque: asciilifeform │ trinque: 'get doc from dht' is right and proper, but says nothing about the format of said doc << indeed
asciilifeform: anyway mats that piece is a mega-snore, i went to a school just like that one, but on other side of the continent, they are common as dirt
mats: iirc bellarmine is also an all male school, so i hope you enjoy butt stuff
asciilifeform: '"[Trump] is an enabler of Putin, former head of the KGB, and of course is leading all these hacks," Reid said. "It should be a message to America that you can't hold hands with Putin."'
mats: i grew up in sv, can confirm it was weird
asciilifeform: ENABLER!!111111
asciilifeform: wrecker!
trinque: I just want to know who beat Harry's ass a while back.
trinque: his face is still fucked up from it.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly,
asciilifeform: 'The continued growth and acceptance of virtual currencies has contributed to increasing exploitation by criminals seeking to sell illegal drugs in the United States. Reporting indicates Colombian TCOs may be using Bitcoin as a tool to conduct TBML schemes between the United States and Colombia. TCOs purchase bitcoins in the United States with drug proceeds and then buy merchandise from the wide range of US-based businesses that acce
asciilifeform: pt bitcoins. The merchandise can include phone and Internet minutes, tickets for events or travel, clothes, or luxury items. The merchandise is shipped to Colombia for resale as in a traditional TBML scheme...'
asciilifeform: 'TBML' is a usgtronic term, 'trade-based money laundry'
asciilifeform: 'In January 2014, a teen crossing the US–Mexico border at the San Ysidro POE claimed the two bottles he carried were apple juice. Upon further questioning, the teen volunteered to drink from the bottles and died hours later from acute methamphetamine intoxication.'
asciilifeform: many lulz.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Related In Gawker Media's final week before Ziff Davis takes over opened a "men's magazine" called "the cuck"
shinohai: In honour of Nick Denton I presume?
BingoBoingo: Prolly a Hulk Hogan joke
mats: i wonder how much meth you can dissolve into 240ml of water
PeterL: LD50 about 50 mg/kg, only need 5 g for a 100 kg person, seems reasonable
mats: but how much product was he carrying if it was two 240ml containers?
BingoBoingo: small town "police sergeant" so figure 125-375 kg
BingoBoingo: Oh, different case
ben_vulpes saw tactical suspenders on his ride in the other day
PeterL: about .9 mg/mL, so 216 mg each? seems kinda low
ben_vulpes: subject of "police" and "sergeant"s
BingoBoingo wonders where the fabled guide to motorized wheelchair combat is
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518545 << nobody said it were wholly in solution...
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 20:21 PeterL: about .9 mg/mL, so 216 mg each? seems kinda low
PeterL: but it should be more soluble in acidic solution, so depending on how it was prepared it might be more concentrated than that
asciilifeform: so long as it is in the bottle, and got out
asciilifeform: (consider a bottle of powder, 0 fluid)
PeterL: who is going to claim a powder is apple juice? but yes, would not nescesarily all be dissolved
asciilifeform: fella who would rather croak than go to american jail? will claim.
PeterL: actually, I wouldn't be suprised if meth would dissolve better in apple juice than plain water, so maybe he was telling the truth?
asciilifeform: seems likely that >5g would fit in there, one way or another.
asciilifeform: who the hell would even want to smuggle <5g in a bottle, and why.
asciilifeform: (to sip on the way to work??)
PeterL: right? I guess he didn't realize that it was poisonous in large quantities
asciilifeform: it would be quite fitting if the cartel caught a dea guy, tied him to a pole, and forced to drink whole barrel of whisky
asciilifeform: or coffee. whichever.
PeterL: 6.25 gallons of coffee would do it
asciilifeform: ;;seen williamdunne
gribble: I have not seen williamdunne.
asciilifeform: 'отряд не заметил потери бойца' (tm) (r).
asciilifeform: ;;seen polarbeard
gribble: I have not seen polarbeard.
asciilifeform: ;;seen punkman
gribble: punkman was last seen in #trilema 12 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <punkman> it does but you need various packages to compile it
asciilifeform: ;;seen gabriel_laddel
gribble: gabriel_laddel was last seen in #trilema 5 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 4 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <gabriel_laddel> wtf else are you going to do?
phf: %seen polarbeard
phf: $seen polarbeard
a111: 2016-03-14 <polarbeard> sheep must be managed in large groups
phf: #seen polarbeard
mats: is mp admitting he reads the reddit?
mats looks shocked
mircea_popescu: we just report the news, we don't make the news.
mircea_popescu: why, was the reading properly signed ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 18:41 trinque: I channeled my inner php shitlord and got it to work
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518522 <<< ahahaha what, trump is "of course" leading "these hacks" ? libertards concede seat at top of tech pyramid to redneck in chief ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 18:55 asciilifeform: '"[Trump] is an enabler of Putin, former head of the KGB, and of course is leading all these hacks," Reid said. "It should be a message to America that you can't hold hands with Putin."'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518539 << 2aminopropane is water miscible ; amphetamine is very slightly soluble. moreover is competitively-soluble with all the sugar crap, so i'd be rather surprised if you can get 5g to stay unprecipitated in a bottle of off the shelf soda/juice/whatever.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 20:16 mats: i wonder how much meth you can dissolve into 240ml of water
mircea_popescu: (fun fact : amphetamine was discovered by a romanian dude.)
hanbot: mircea_popescu: hence "omfg omfg o pula roz din fier cu luminite"?
mircea_popescu: was like 1880 or such
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 20:36 asciilifeform: it would be quite fitting if the cartel caught a dea guy, tied him to a pole, and forced to drink whole barrel of whisky
a111: Logged on 2014-08-08 08:23 mircea_popescu: "oh, no, he came out for olives six or seven times"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518588 << german, iirc, produced it, but never ate, just wrote down 'this is a thing' and moved on to next substituted benzene
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 23:41 mircea_popescu: (fun fact : amphetamine was discovered by a romanian dude.)
asciilifeform: or hm, edeleanu, working in germany
mircea_popescu: mno, aha. see ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518584 << the american derpmedia Official Truth is, best as i can discern, that a hack is not, as in actuality, a technological finesse, but a kind of window-smash vandalism
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 23:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518522 <<< ahahaha what, trump is "of course" leading "these hacks" ? libertards concede seat at top of tech pyramid to redneck in chief ?
asciilifeform: as if proggy broke when you whack it with Big Hammer enough times.
asciilifeform: big, bad, putins, with BIG HAMMERZ!!!!111
phf: (defvar lords '("mircea_popescu" "asciilifeform" "ben_vulpes")), heh you guys made the planet.lisp.org
asciilifeform: i think i was already in lisporg somewhere
asciilifeform: in... comedy section
phf: asciilifeform: nah, your still considered to be one of the authorities on lisp from ground up in teh kommuniti
mircea_popescu: see, i knew good things will happen if i stick around with him.
mircea_popescu: LOOK MOM IM FAMOUS!
asciilifeform: phf: aha i have a 31111111111117 s1t3 with a scanned copy of sussman's 'scheme83' !1111 dunforget.
phf: asciilifeform: i don't actually know about that one :o
asciilifeform: nm it was cliki's comedy page.
phf: nah, i'm curious about the scheme83 website
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform good point re the "hack" thing. apparently the reason average cattle doesn't is because ... they CHOOSE not to. not because they cucking fouldn't to save their stinky hides
mircea_popescu: you know, just like "piracy"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite like.
mircea_popescu: "nobody would give you a fucking invite" "a what ?"
phf: those comments
asciilifeform: phf: fresh gas mask canister recommended.
mircea_popescu: phf the sort of comments he gets on his blog never cease to amaze me.
mircea_popescu: possibly what he got picked up as too, "check out this guy, earthworm beset by ants" or somesuch.
phf: i like how ascii handles them "i invented what you're talking about, and you're wrong" "eat shit you turncoat"
asciilifeform: http://www.cliki.net/Humor << now i recall, my thing is at the bottom (curator actually wrote and asked to feature it)
asciilifeform: 'editors'
mircea_popescu: (there's also an old version, from like 2013)
asciilifeform: nooooooo
asciilifeform: not terry davis !
asciilifeform: surely not gone?!
mircea_popescu: well yes.
mircea_popescu: but the page i mean.
asciilifeform: yeah he quit payin' for domain. even the link on 'temple' is to archive.org.
mircea_popescu: a sentiment i can appreciate. domains, really ?
phf: i'm waiting for when we finally start sending hosts file to each other
asciilifeform: gossip://6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/.......
phf: well, with custom hosts you can just type http://phf in your browser. that'll be kind of cool
asciilifeform: well yes
asciilifeform: (def-me-homies ((6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 "mircea") ...... )
phf: :)
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno why the fuck i'd type "http".
asciilifeform: who the hell does
asciilifeform: you type h-TAB or whatever button that is on your martian box.
mircea_popescu: one of the most egregious cases of derpy engineering choices. "http://" really bitch, because what, your browser is also going to do what, bitcoin:// ? and then www, because totallies, there's other stuff on the web than web.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftp
mircea_popescu: you ftp with your browser ?
mircea_popescu: a) can just http download anyway ; b) what.
mircea_popescu: there is no "ftp". you mean sftp ?
asciilifeform: i have own-written widgets that speak ftp over loopback strictly
asciilifeform: it is easy protocol to implement, wat.
mircea_popescu: i never ftp'd in a browser, nor would i.
asciilifeform: granted.
mircea_popescu: it has no fucking knobs. one step above pgp'ing in a browser.
asciilifeform: granted you can't upload to ftp in browser (that i know of)
asciilifeform: but hey, i even got shit here that talks ~tftp~
asciilifeform: (think ftp, but no dirs and no files !)
asciilifeform: ...or rather, 1 file.
mircea_popescu: so you use browser ftp that can't upload. so then what does it do, this : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ilasxve-560x456.png ?
mircea_popescu: oh im sorry, fttp://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ilasxve-560x456.png ?
asciilifeform: lel approx.
asciilifeform: anyway i cannot even remember when i last.
mircea_popescu: why not do it right, big-bang://general-physics://your-mother-should-stop-fucking-drunks://http://www.somesite.dork
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you missed the plug-cable-from-socket-n-to-socket-m-in-plugboard part.
mircea_popescu: you know, just in case you want to use the browser in an alternate universe.
mircea_popescu: GOOD INGENIEURING!
asciilifeform: (incidentally plugboards survived in analogue computers, which were manufactured ALMOST UNTIL '80s because ~actually easier to dataflow program on~)
mircea_popescu: it'll be just good and ready to go, just replace big-bang at the outset with whatever other causative event happens in your alt-universe, all good.
asciilifeform: big sneeze!
trinque: phf │ well, with custom hosts you can just type http://phf in your browser. that'll be kind of cool << ben_vulpes and I were talking about this earlier
asciilifeform: (or, i shit thee not, in japanese cosmogony, big spoodge)
trinque: actually I think mircea_popescu first mentioned getting a vtronic hosts file going
trinque: sounds like a great idea.
asciilifeform: trinque: not much use imho, a hostfile is the most intensely personal item possible, it is mapping of key fp's to friends' names.
mircea_popescu: that doesn't speak to this.
asciilifeform: well in the sense that i'm not sure what one wins from vtronic incarnation of it
mircea_popescu: you can have a canonical copy unrelatedly to whether you scribble on your copy or not.
asciilifeform: you still gotta merge by hand.
asciilifeform: well yes, canonical, e.g., mircea_popescu signature, '31.3.3.7 is mircea_popescu's w4r3z box', signed...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform put it this way : whether i call her "big tits" or whatever else, she can still be "susan b. anthony" in public.
asciilifeform: (istanbul, incidentally, for all i know it IS mircea_popescu's pr0n box...)
mircea_popescu: so that's the use.
mircea_popescu: $g "because of my father i thought my name is jesus christ"
trinque: list of republic sites, while we still use "sites"
ben_vulpes: well i was sitting in the sun but i have to drive-by-comment now
ben_vulpes: i quite rather would like to take my extant domains donw
trinque: and while we still use fleanode
ben_vulpes: i have no interest in perpetuating the global hash table as controlled by nato
ben_vulpes: this presents the thorny problem of noobs not having the foggiest where ben_vulpes/r/<a_vastly_shorter_id> is actually located on the net
ben_vulpes: perhaps just give them an ip addr?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hosts file can't possibly be more intimate than a gpg keyring
trinque: ask some bot maybe
mircea_popescu: trinque nothing wrong with having a http bridge.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel folx appreciated the lolz
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: gopher is accessible over http for chrissakes.
ben_vulpes: i would be entirely fine with an ip addr
mircea_popescu: this is, incindentally, much better than "cloudflare".
mircea_popescu: and amusingly enough, it would be perfectly fine for mpex, or any other "financial" site built correctly.
ben_vulpes: but in light of lease-breaking fees and firing of everyone and general existential crises am going to go dip my butt in the river with child and babe.
phf: well, if you guys concerned about dns ownership, you should look into ip range allocations sometime
mircea_popescu: phf the idea of course being that eventually this will grow into actual routing,
mircea_popescu: and while it would allow tcp/ip, it wouldn't be limited to tcp/ip
mircea_popescu: maybe you know how to get my site via drone-usb.
mircea_popescu: (drone usb is when a drone flies in between points a and b, and back again, carrying an usb stick it plugs in on arrival)
trinque: I'm not opposed to incremental improvements as long as they, y'know, continue.
mircea_popescu: the great advantage being that the steps of the iteration === research.
mircea_popescu: most of the things we've built came out of examining steps and making improvements.
mircea_popescu: that started off as weirdisms and ended up as needed standards.
mircea_popescu: (dunno who for instance recalls 2012 back when "logging irc" was "a bad idea" by "community agreement". freenode would still hold on to that idiocy hadn't it died meanwhile.)
phf: trinque: what happened to the bot vpatches?
phf: oh it's on a blog now
phf: not particularly interesting, since they are two independent codebases, but http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot
phf: maybe one day(c)(tm) i'll be able to work on that thing again..
trinque: neat
trinque: all my v stuff is going to live at http://trinque.org/src
phf: trinque: you're on a book cover blurb ;) https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/excite.html
asciilifeform: asciilifeform, meanwhile, sees 'extra cursor on this display' 'wait..' 'mosquito.'
asciilifeform: gotta get out of this swamp.
mircea_popescu: lol what is that phf ?
asciilifeform: it's clim.
phf: mircea_popescu: it's a ui for lisp that gabriel_laddel has been contributing to
asciilifeform: world's best programmable graphics lib, but also looks like liquishit, and slow even on pentium-99999
mircea_popescu looks in project about main, doesn't even see Philip Fominykh
mircea_popescu: in other news, making mega-ar post ; aficionados prepare.
phf: it's sort of a universe in itself, i started looking at it again, because i'm doing some graphics work with lisp and needed a good gui toolkit. i'm using CAPI right now, which is proprietary and part of lispworks
asciilifeform: when i was on a usg throne and had ~unlimited budget, i ordered ALL of the known commercial lisps (with exception of 'scineer') brought in.
asciilifeform: it was interesting, and lispworks was spiffy.
phf: sort of tempting to migrate all my lisp work there, because the ide is nice, but of course, proprietary
asciilifeform: well you dun need the ide to deploy...
mircea_popescu: not to mention it;s altogether unclear the republic will even enforce fiat-"proprietary"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can scarcely picture republic sitting on ancient closed bins tho.
asciilifeform: did everyone recognize him??
mircea_popescu: there is also that.
trinque: phf: saw that :) gabriel needs to hang around moar.
phf: maybe he can port my scan editor to clim..
asciilifeform: aha! so can haz schematicsz!!1111
asciilifeform: i'd like to connect that tape deck to my 3620, for instance.
asciilifeform: so i can perhaps back it up and dare to move it from the pedestal...
asciilifeform: ( i dun actually own the tape deck, just an empty carcass with wires where it ought to go ... )
phf: it's still wip.
phf: i'm almost done though, going to upload for mr man to peruse at pleasure in the next few days
mircea_popescu: $up drowngodx
deedbot: drowngodx voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'тяжело в учении -- легко в бою !' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: quite, it's a brazzers set. she gets pounded.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/pisi-dot-ar-y-otras-temas/ << Trilema - Pisi dot ar y otras temas.
ben_vulpes: > chesus
mircea_popescu: el verdadero que salvia!
ben_vulpes: > thoroughly dekualkized
ben_vulpes: this fwiw is the appeal to me of ars, deflated though it may be through many a trilema
ben_vulpes: that a lovely building may be bought and the savages beaten out of it like dust from a rug
mircea_popescu: i guess.
ben_vulpes: lol is that the first mircea_popescu imglink with no actual nudity?!
ben_vulpes: mind you i grew up in the land of pressed shitboard, and so the wrecked stone glory of ars is v. appealing
mircea_popescu: they're overpriced though.
mircea_popescu: go to eeurope, better deals and marginally less retarded peoplez.
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