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mircea_popescu: "rape" as in... touching ?
BingoBoingo: Who even knows anymore. I thought noo rape was refusing to sex a fat chick because that denies zher sexual agency.
mircea_popescu: $s nurse
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 423112 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 247 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 15 hours, 15 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: epic example of the whole "oh, etherape you say ? i vaguely recall some things which therefore clearly don't matter and also it proves stupidity pays!"
mircea_popescu: tough job, being pinoy.
ben_vulpes: utterly fucking hilarious to me that buterin hosed his own thing to fix poorly implemented scripts by others
ben_vulpes: but the notion of a "fits in head" ethereum contract boggles the mind, so.
mircea_popescu: buterin's a "digital newspaper" gofer.
ben_vulpes: i know i met the guy one time
mircea_popescu: he lacks the capacity of ownership much like goat lacks the capacity to sing.
ben_vulpes: yes yes
ben_vulpes: "buterin" and "his" are readily stand ins for "lizards" and "theirs"
mircea_popescu: he just did what was told. inexplicably things happened.
mircea_popescu: yes but the divorce explains the phenomenon.
ben_vulpes: pardon?
mircea_popescu: lizards imagine themselves better than bitcoin. the tim swanson error.
mircea_popescu: gofers just wanna do what told.
mircea_popescu: the intermingling of these results in a billion dollars in cash misplaced in middle east and a hundred million misplaced online.
ben_vulpes: eh, what "buterin".
ben_vulpes: figurehead is stand in.
ben_vulpes: someone's getting impaled.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511945 << my mircea_partizan simulator worx!
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 00:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511937 << oh, "color revolutions" dun work ? tell you what, we'll steal your country's exports and with the proceeds finance an alt-country we'll pretend is realy your country. ha-ha!
mircea_popescu: or if you prefer, take vietnam war, amply studied (in english, i mean) application of the stupidity. grunts that just wanna get out alive and brass that has "political considerations" results in a resounding military defeat.
mircea_popescu: take baltimore lulz last year, for something palpably close. same exact mechanism.
ben_vulpes: dude the past week has raised my shits given about ethereum from zero to like a half
ben_vulpes: usg does cryptocurrency, gets hosed, news at whenever
mircea_popescu: well the problem of http://i.imgur.com/xivy4To.png has ~nothing to do with ethereum per se.
ben_vulpes: ahaha
mircea_popescu: but irl it happens because on that bike, there isn't ONE person riding. there's two : a bodybuilder with no head pedalling and the brainbox+spinal column of a cubical drone with no flesh.
mircea_popescu: working together, they manage the spoke-in-wheel trick all the time.
ben_vulpes: this machine is not log for the living.
ben_vulpes: long, even.
ben_vulpes: anyways this malaysian thing is hilarious and interesting on several other axes as well: 1) the malaysian government is nowhere mentioned in the pr-wank 2) if one accepts the usg narrative, gs is an obvious stooge of *someone* in the play due to not doing dd adequate to determine that bond monies were going to an organization with inadequate controls to keep the money from draining immediately into the
ben_vulpes: pockets of everyone on staff 3) gosh this could be over 2000 words
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, the "crypto-contract", fit in head or not, is just an avatar of lazy thinking, much like any amulet. ignorant nonsense and no more.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes qntra piece ?
ben_vulpes: i) "sovereign wealth fund" issues bonds since the usg performed some kind of backflip and the phrase meant something other than "giant pile of cash sucked out of the earth"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: there's no piece yet even
mircea_popescu: anyway, they prolly bought swag, crack and bitcoin for the whole sum already. as per the ancient "borrow all you can, trade the shiatola for proper currency, disappear."
ben_vulpes: but the thought of running the org2blog export process for 120 seconds every time i want to tweak something
mircea_popescu: fiat is pretty much a scam token by now anyway.
ben_vulpes: kills my will to write
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes try mp-wp for srs.
ben_vulpes: see: gentoo quest
ben_vulpes: all i have in life is my dependency graph
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: so does that thing work?
ben_vulpes: last i recall you said something to shinohai about scripts or documentation?
mircea_popescu: it's being rewritten etc, but as it is it does work.
ben_vulpes: well not yours, but the thing shared around lo these weeks ago
mircea_popescu: that's be mine neh ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, phf stood it up in ten minutes, which i'd expect to be typical, with the occasional alfexception.
ben_vulpes: choice lulz
ben_vulpes: choice choice lulz
ben_vulpes: anyways i have several mega housekeeping chores in between here and trying mp-wp for myself.
ben_vulpes: (also did anyone notice that the malaysian project is being performed under the civil forfeiture statutes?!)
mircea_popescu: not like it's going anywhere. however, the important point is that absence of tools actually limits your life in a very drastic manner.
ben_vulpes: and shitty tools moreso!
ben_vulpes: dude i'm repouring a foundation over here.
mircea_popescu: but the thing is - if you had it, you couild write your piecve, add value to your life.history and therefore future. if you don't have it - you can't.
ben_vulpes: what can't, draft is right here on me hdd.
mircea_popescu: after 3 years of not having it, what you saved was still the one time cost of having it ; but what you lost is the incremental cost of all the things you didn't get to have
mircea_popescu: in this sense tool investment exposes one to a sort of reverse-interest.
mircea_popescu: but as a heuristic, "things which will have to be done anyway are best done right now."
ben_vulpes: the prefuckingcise reason i am not making the investment in mp-wp at this moment is because i am paying a debt on the virtualization tool choise.
ben_vulpes: choice*
mircea_popescu: funnay how that works
mircea_popescu: as you say, choice, choice lulz :D
ben_vulpes: the interest doesn't sting quite as badly when you've a plan and wait for the right moment.
ben_vulpes: plan being a kind of principal here.
mircea_popescu: cash is safer than plans, though, in that context (which is a very sensible context i might add).
ben_vulpes: sure!
ben_vulpes: and with an unprovisioned server slowly grinding towards utility i am /already ridiculously safer/ than running virtualized.
mircea_popescu: i never quite understood the appeal of "virtualiation".
mircea_popescu: very strange to me that the same people who fiercely resist employee not showing up for office hours cheerily embrace ... fucking office furniture not showing up.
ben_vulpes: i had no idea what i'd bought at the time.
mircea_popescu: what puritan idiocy is this whereby things may be trusted with human attributes because... what, they reliably won't engage in sins of the flesh ?
mircea_popescu: "if i let bill work remotely he might who knows, fuck his wife! whereas this amd is safe, it'll just sit there."
mircea_popescu: nuts, these people.
ben_vulpes: i just gotta piss on every fence in case one of 'ems electrified
mircea_popescu: (the interested reader is invited to follow my steps through lowell and teh greater merrimack river valley, to dig through the history of 1800s "industrial" culture, ie, large nunneries filled with girlies presented a whole new sort of religion.
mircea_popescu: did you for instance know that they mostly died of tuberculosis, which they mostly acquired through the "kiss of death", which was the procedure whereby they'd load the thread in the machine needle kissing it ? "went faster", not to mention female masochism.)
mircea_popescu: sadly at the time i didn't have a blog, nor truth be told any interest in "the world" generally speaking. so the notes will forever sit.
mircea_popescu: and in other news : oj simpson may or may not have killed his nonconsensually slutty wife and some schmuck named ronald. that schmuck's family did in fact win a civil award of 33.5 mn. of the sum owed, they collected a few hundred k's, which consist entirely of... the royalties from a ghostwritten book. "if i did it: confessions of the killer".
mircea_popescu: put another way : a) the mecca of "topical fiction" bullshit yields less money than it costs to buy a house, don't bother ; us tort law and practice is the lulz of all time.
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/19Fd
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu p == q of http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DDDE667282B355D21D9F0E3505442E332AB082F487BFFC440034D11D636FD6A7 , and, (via jurov's eagle eye) - == NextPrime[2^1023], which corresponds to keygen on machine with a null-outputting rng!
gribble: Error: "2^1023" is not a valid command.
shinohai: lolz
asciilifeform: the implication is a mighty obvious one, and the thing will be done.
asciilifeform: incidentally, i wish that bitbet were alive, so that we could take bets prior to the mega-revelation of how many keys pop when i test for q == NextPrime[p]
asciilifeform: (how this is tested, is exercise for the reader.)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes qntra piece ? << pls ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wow
mircea_popescu: and yeah, i wish it were around too, but i guess we can't have everything.
mircea_popescu: not like someone couldn't MAKE one, for that matter. fine way to learn about governance i say.
mircea_popescu: $up drowngodx
deedbot: drowngodx voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: $up meuh
deedbot: meuh voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: $up webbyz
deedbot: webbyz voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: BingoBoingo your knowledge of crap pop culture amazes me xD
BingoBoingo: it gets stuck
shinohai: Nah that sly edit was very clever, I like it.
BingoBoingo: Why do you think I drank? I was trying to clean the crap pop culture out.
BingoBoingo: At least I didn't resort to trying to use ether on it.
shinohai: afaik there is no 12-step program for Ether huffers, unless they come here for treatment.
deedbot: [Qntra] Hackers Catch "Pokemon Go" Creator's Twitter And Quora Accounts - http://qntra.net/2016/08/hackers-catch-pokemon-go-creators-twitter-and-quora-accounts/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: test result: substitution of 511, 512, 1024, 2047, 2048, 3071, 3072, 4095, 4096, 8191, 8192 --- for the 1023 - yields no further divisors...
asciilifeform: (suprisingly, imho.)
asciilifeform: *surprisingly
mircea_popescu: quite..../
asciilifeform: (trial division of whole db, and not on dulap, but on my creaky old donkey locally, takes, incidentally, around 5 sec.)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512078 << wat was this ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 07:59 ben_vulpes: the prefuckingcise reason i am not making the investment in mp-wp at this moment is because i am paying a debt on the virtualization tool choise.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: why is ben_vulpes hosting blog on vm ? or did i misread.
trinque: moving off vm
asciilifeform: ah, off.
asciilifeform: (why it was on??)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512064 << reminder: mircea_popescu released a thing which worx, but only if you 1) add theme, which is not included, and 2) is not compatible with standard wp themez, gotta hand-tweak half a dozen knobs.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 07:52 mircea_popescu: anyway, phf stood it up in ten minutes, which i'd expect to be typical, with the occasional alfexception.
mircea_popescu: yeah. once you're done doing that you're done though.
mircea_popescu: course iirc phf released a patch version including basic theme and pre-tweaked most knobs.
asciilifeform: basic theme is shit-ugly.
mircea_popescu: yes well standardization and beauty don't mix.
shinohai: It worked out of the box for me, literally took 10 minutes
mircea_popescu: exact quote!
mircea_popescu: how did you fish this out ?
asciilifeform: ordinary google search thing
asciilifeform: ;;google tuberculosis kiss of death
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
asciilifeform: $google tuberculosis kiss of death
mircea_popescu: eh that never worked.
deedbot: https://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=11173 << BNL Newsroom | Key Difference in How TB Bacteria Degrade ... | https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/pamphlets/tb_disease_en_rev.pdf << Get the Facts About TB | https://blog.pkids.org/category/tb/ << TB | PKIDs Blog
asciilifeform: yeah, not it.
asciilifeform: the 'kiss of death' shuttle is a helpful reminder that socialisms etc do not come from malevolent martians, no.
mircea_popescu: they come from women.
mircea_popescu: as pestilence generally does.
asciilifeform: women herded themselves into plague pits, or wat.
asciilifeform: i dun recall anyone having ~asked~ the mill gurlz whether they wanted the job.
mircea_popescu: nah, it's a no fault situation.
mircea_popescu: it's not like the mold WANTS to grow in your bathroom.
mircea_popescu: if it's wet, it molds, and that's all there is to it.
mircea_popescu: (note that whatever you ask you get no less socialism. if someone asked the gurlz if they wanted the job, they'd have said no, they'd prefer to dick around on smartphones, upvoting each other on social media. net result - still tb.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0lwut, tb over ip ?
mircea_popescu: fucking consumption.
mircea_popescu: EXACT same symptoms. frailty of mind and spirit, a certain antisanguine fleshyness, weakness, palor, you name it
mircea_popescu: the victorian ideal of the phtysic beauty is pretty much === the "feminist" ideal of cosmo & co.
mircea_popescu: "delicate" and whatnot.
asciilifeform: speaking of the shuttle cocks, when i was a young apprentice at a usg lab, mandatory safety lectures still reminded chemists to refrain from mouth-pipetting...
thestringpuller: why does https exist again? oh consumer has come to expect.
mircea_popescu: ftr, about 2.5 of the world's 7.5bn are infected with tb.
asciilifeform: antibody != infected
mircea_popescu: latent tb stll is tb.
asciilifeform: no moar than latent herpes == herpes
mircea_popescu: which it is.
mircea_popescu: as long as the pathogen is included in the organism, the situation is called "infection"
asciilifeform: by that token we all are 'infected' with those weird fungi aids victims get devoured by.
mircea_popescu: and so we are.
mircea_popescu: did you get bcg as a kid btw ?
asciilifeform: pretty sure i did
mircea_popescu: the usians no longer get it
asciilifeform: then again, what ~do~ they still get
mircea_popescu: gotta pump them full of useless crap that doesn't work, instead.
asciilifeform: iirc they dun even get smallpox vax, except if enlisting in the army
mircea_popescu: "not worth it". an assessment i find difficult to dispute.
phf: ha
thestringpuller: Oh my god. i have to pass the certificate requests through the load balancer separately?
thestringpuller: Seriously who came up with this bullshit. https is such a scam
mircea_popescu: so redirect it to http and be done with it.
thestringpuller: i don't dictate my own actions in the uranium mines
thestringpuller: VMware brought to you by...slaves!
shinohai: https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/759995925410385920 <<< ok, coinbase isn't insolvent, Brian Armstrong says so.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 620.98, vol: 4213.22663079 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 619.981, vol: 5739.36302 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 621.55, vol: 27276.04885588 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 621.40547, vol: 203605.32530000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 617.82, vol: 2363.86037428 | Volume-weighted last average: 621.345841608
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 423183 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 176 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 6 hours, 10 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: prolly should have bought some f.derp just to be sure.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 16:41 mircea_popescu: prolly should have bought some f.derp just to be sure.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "multisig" got to do with controlling own private keys.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the matter should be chased shinohai ; a good time as any to put a fucking end to that miserable cancer.
mircea_popescu: curious if the usg is going to actually gather in support of it or just let it go away./
mircea_popescu: fucking dickhead brian armstrong. literally, i'd rather look at a picture of an animated penis.
mircea_popescu: the sooner he joins the rankls of the roger vers, the better.
shinohai: multisig is shit. coinbase still can do anything it wants with your coins
mircea_popescu: they got 50-50 chances of going under. write it up.
shinohai: As for the insolvency rumors, I guess cryptographic proof is just too hard.
mircea_popescu: teh public has a right to knoe.
shinohai prepares a Qntra
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc 'coinbase' is presently ~the~ tame usg exchange in usa, and is unlikely to be simply 'let go away' until replacement is ready.
asciilifeform: (which is, likely, hastily in the works as we speak)
mircea_popescu: boys wanna play in the adult pool, better keep up.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the sooner he joins the rankls of the roger vers, the better. << And the doctor foreskins
mircea_popescu: yeah, that crowd.
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/19Kv
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ^ Related to latest Qntra
thestringpuller: go away' until replacement is ready.
thestringpuller: fucking macs
deedbot: [Qntra] Campus Intolerance: Uttering "All Lives Matter" On Social Media Gets Student Sanctioned - http://qntra.net/2016/08/campus-intolerance-uttering-all-lives-matter-on-social-media-gets-student-sanctioned/
trinque: thestringpuller: I too like to reply "go away" in the ticket system
mircea_popescu: is it him or her in the end ?!
mircea_popescu: o wait, different nonpersons
mircea_popescu: boy these are getting hard to tell apart.
trinque: asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: well houston is not technically part of texas
mircea_popescu: much like miami is the true capital of argentina.
mircea_popescu: (i'm not even kidding. these fucktards actually admire miami, which is the first time i ever heard anyone say anything like that. moreover the influence is visible in society, architecture, economics etc.)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well Miami looks good in Movies. Otherwise not so much.
mircea_popescu: what, miami vice ?
trinque: university of houston is in the ghetto
trinque: "third ward"
shinohai: I always found it hilarious that Dexter, which supposedly took place in Miami, was actually filmed in California.
mircea_popescu: along most other shit supposedly taking place in places.
mircea_popescu: also in the news, haagen dasz is made in new jersey.
asciilifeform: speaking of which, asciilifeform finally has icecream-making gear
asciilifeform: outputs arkakao-grade product..
asciilifeform: (nearly)
asciilifeform: this appears to be the ~only way to get edible icecream in usa
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Miama Vice and a bunch of other police dramas and films
BingoBoingo: $google "Bad Boys 2"
deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Boys_II << Bad Boys II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172156/ << Bad Boys II (2003) - IMDb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APhw7rju-Co << Bad Boys 2 Reggie - YouTube
mircea_popescu: speaking of : frusen gladje was a competitor in the 80s. kraft said it sold it to unilever in the 90s ; unilever said it didn't. the brand ... dissapeared.
mircea_popescu: well known / documented case of brand fallen through the cracks, for all the branding enthusiasts out there.
asciilifeform: and speaking of defective american tech, i have here an ipnoje that is about to... frag
asciilifeform: i shit thee not
asciilifeform: bulging under gas pressure
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Takes pictures write qntra?
asciilifeform: eh boring, snoreworthy well-documented thing apparently
asciilifeform: short bridge in li ion cell.
trinque: they're trying to take you out alf!
BingoBoingo: NO, targeted assasination attempt on a Lord of TMSR
asciilifeform: well this happens to all cells of this chemistry
asciilifeform: but is extra-lulzy in a device where the thing is sealed inside
asciilifeform: and there is no way for it to bulge through the aluminum bottom, so it bows, instead, the glass
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes has, i imagine, seen this
asciilifeform: i'ma trepane the thing tonight...
ben_vulpes: i've not been so blessed.
ben_vulpes: seen it on laptops, though.
mircea_popescu: do not mouth pipette alf!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i had a crapple lappy burst with gas
asciilifeform: it was awe-inspiring
ben_vulpes: goodness.
asciilifeform: out of warranty, naturally
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512133 << bringing up hw, shaving yaks.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 15:08 asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512078 << wat was this ?
asciilifeform: but, interestingly, vendor fixed it for a nominal fee.
asciilifeform: ('fixed' being, replacement of whole chassis, keyboard, touchpad, batteries)
deedbot: [Qntra] Coinbase And Reddit Work To Hide Blood From Users - http://qntra.net/2016/08/coinbase-and-reddit-work-to-hide-blood-from-users/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ate my ocmment ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Found
ben_vulpes: gracious
trinque: https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp01-mobile-phone/ << I've been thinking about getting this dumbphone, dropping my iTurd
trinque: which seems to never be able to act as an actual phone
asciilifeform: holy SHIT that thing is expensive for a shitphone
asciilifeform: and i will point out that '2g' is being phased out in the industrialized world.
asciilifeform: chinese sell standard gsm pnoje, ~creditcard-sized, for <20usd.
trinque: eh, yeah, probably right about 2g headed for dustbin
asciilifeform: 'punkt' is a quite appropriate name for this idiocy.
trinque: I haven't found a single dumbphone that looks solid
asciilifeform: trinque: no such thing as solid. but, next best, small and inexpensive.
asciilifeform: ;;google credit card phone
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
asciilifeform: there are a bunch of vendors.
trinque: I've seen them; they're garbage
asciilifeform: how so ?
trinque finds
trinque: ones I've seen look like they'll break the first time they're sat upon
trinque: I don't care if I spend a couple hundred on something that can be dropped and on which I can actually make a phonecall
asciilifeform: lulzily, the iturd is the only phone that reliably works here in the house (because it supports telephony over tcp, transparently, instead of being stuck with tower, ~all of which are far away / weak)
trinque: asciilifeform: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61WcU%2BYf74L._SL1000_.jpg << chinese as hell. shitty screen, bad buttons, hates the human hand
asciilifeform: all of these devices are 'chinese as hell'
asciilifeform: i've never seen a mobile pnoje which wasn't.
trinque: that mp01 isn't
asciilifeform: (with possible exception of ancient analogue motorola from 1980s, in junk store)
asciilifeform: trinque: sure as fuck it is.
ben_vulpes: bad cell service is a feature.
asciilifeform: plastic ? qed.
ben_vulpes: nobody needs to call anyone else.
trinque: I don't want heavy metal in my pocket
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes talks to heathens via smoke signal or wat.
trinque: wifi calling works like shit
trinque: at least on tmobile; I use it daily
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512203 << what is the deal with quoting the previous line?? This is also a live chatroom ya know! Perhaps asciilifeform can comment as he does the same
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 16:45 shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512202 <<< bwahahahaha
asciilifeform: trinque: i use same, it worx...
trinque: and daily it drops calls or suffers misc glitches where one end can't hear the other
asciilifeform: trinque: this may be artifact from being on the edge of your 802.11 ap zone
asciilifeform: trinque: do you get same effects when standing next to the antenna ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i do it so i can use phf's auto cross-reference.
asciilifeform: imho it is a worthy thing
asciilifeform: and makes logz work in the future - smoother.
trinque: asciilifeform: I work about 15ft from AP line-of-sight
asciilifeform: trinque: i have nfi, for all i know your house is under a microwave death ray from across the street, or the like.
trinque: this particular phone has other problems; sometimes will get stuck on "edge", airplane mode on/off brings 4g back
danielpbarron: i don't see the value in referencing the conversation from within itself..
asciilifeform: trinque: the frequent transitions is a sad carrier thing, afaik
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 17:50 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Miama Vice and a bunch of other police dramas and films
deedbot: [Qntra] Black Lives Matter Releases Segregationist Demands - http://qntra.net/2016/08/black-lives-matter-releases-segregationist-demands/
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 17:48 mircea_popescu: uh no. samsung e1200
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 18:14 trinque: ones I've seen look like they'll break the first time they're sat upon
mircea_popescu: i drove over the thing, worked fine.
mircea_popescu: ~20 bux as the esteemed attendance pointed out.
trinque: nice
asciilifeform: 'while supplies last' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: battery lasts ~hour/gram. so if you buy a bag ~same as carrying a wall socket with you
asciilifeform: also it looks like it uses heathen charger ?!
asciilifeform: FUCK carrying bricks
mircea_popescu: what is a heathen charger ?
asciilifeform: non-usb
mircea_popescu: doh lol. what usb.
asciilifeform: proprietary brick
mircea_popescu: nah its a standard thing
asciilifeform: what standard ?
asciilifeform: name the iso ?
mircea_popescu: the < > usb
mircea_popescu: w/e it's called.
mircea_popescu: anyway the cable convertor is like 5 bux
phf: there is nothing wrong with your television set. do not attempt to adjust the picture. you are about to experience the awe and mystery of asciilifeform's ever shifting constraints space!
asciilifeform: lol wat shifting
asciilifeform: sanity dun shift.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512329 << he has a point ; day-referenced should be good enough, who needs minute-reference.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 18:22 danielpbarron: i don't see the value in referencing the conversation from within itself..
trinque: ty mp
shinohai: I thought a little context might be nice, to know what I was bwahahaha'ing at but whatevs.
phf: i have similar phone, somewhere in logs, and last time i checked amazon a few months ago it was going for $200-$800, while same model a year ago cost $30
mircea_popescu: 65g phone. beat that.
trinque: bought the samsung for 8 bucks on ebay used
mircea_popescu: buy like... 20.
phf: just don't carry it past a sniffer dog
mircea_popescu: keep throwing them in the river.
asciilifeform: 65g counting the brick ?
mircea_popescu: you missed the 5 dollar cable discussion ?
asciilifeform: cable comes with the thing ?
asciilifeform: btw we dun have bbet but does anyone want to unofficially bet how many fermat bangs in 3518444 moduli ?
asciilifeform: (at least 1, per the mahmud thread)
asciilifeform: gentlemen?
asciilifeform: takin' 'bets'
asciilifeform: (answer in < 1hr)
trinque: heh, got another for 7bux
asciilifeform: http://facthacks.cr.yp.to/fermat.html << bernstein's quick likbez on subj
asciilifeform: ^ for n00bz ^
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '<>&%"\${}`'deadbeef1; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/617706D7A6FC1817D01
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '<>&%"\'deadbeef1; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/926423AB036A88ACD7FAC81
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'UserID 3 ; [<div id="1"><form id="test"></form><button form="test" formaction="jav
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1C92A5089A3C18AE3FA8FE3BA1633FED8CD85A0
asciilifeform: oh for fuckssake.
asciilifeform: ^ who wants to take a stab at this gem ^
phf: oh that's beautiful
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ^ ? phf ?
trinque: fucks sake what alf; you want me to somehow increase the length of IRC lines?
trinque: I'm not writing code to intelligently split lines based on whatever you decide to put in there
asciilifeform: trinque: read the link.
trinque: ahaha is that xss?!
mircea_popescu: so wait, i win ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the total unique count (fermat with 10,000 iterations / modulus) is 2.
mircea_popescu: rounded to the closest 3 it's 3!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu wins, and nobody else played.
asciilifeform was expecting a great deal moar.
mircea_popescu: aaaand what is &ADz&AGn&AG0&AEf&ACA&AHM&AHI&AGO&AD0&AGn&ACA&AG8Abg&AGUAcgByAG8AcgA9AGEAbABlAHIAdAAoADEAKQ&ACAAPABi// prithee ?
mircea_popescu: for... firefox 3 ?!
asciilifeform: pretty lame pwntron, but points for effortz.
asciilifeform: ;;google 0xF791040E3E7D27D1
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
asciilifeform: doesn't appear to be an sks key.
asciilifeform: likely, crafted for us.
asciilifeform: and the sheer monkey-assumption-sandwitch baked into this !!
asciilifeform: 1) 'of course s.nsa uses some private wwwtronic thing to view results!1111' 2) 'of course it evals embedded crapola if we ask it!' etc.
asciilifeform: why it was necessary to put this in a strictly fermat-breakable artificial key, vs. some simple case of gcd or 8ball, i do not know - write to hitler and ask him, not me.
ben_vulpes: eh i was lunchin
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...
phf: mircea_popescu: a lot of xss detection "solutions" rely on grepping for known bad input, like "script" or whatever. and there are ways to sidestep that, like '<scr' + 'ipt>' or a='ipt>';'<scr'+a. in this case whoever is fucking with detection by using this truly wtf feature i've never heard of, <meta charset="a">b</meta> that apparently parses b according to charset a rules
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ^ yer gizmo EATS IT
asciilifeform falls down.
ben_vulpes: holy fuk
ben_vulpes: what am i looking at
phf: asciilifeform: pretty boring, since it's just "eating" whatever random tags are in that soup, bullet needs a special gun to fire, and wotpaste not it
asciilifeform: phf: it fires in 'chrome'
trinque: it fires, but looks like it is missing some guts
trinque: ben_vulpes: gotta either escape html or better, do away with html paste page in favor of raw-only
phf: asciilifeform: define "fires". it just picks up whatever random <script>...<script> matches inside
asciilifeform: well, pops some popupz
asciilifeform: but i have nfi what the intended eater was.
trinque: trying to jam some script into a background worker
asciilifeform: soooooo we have a half-baked attack against l0gz readers etc.
phf: there's nothing to support above statement
asciilifeform: phf: let's have alternative hypothesis ?
asciilifeform: ancient xss 0day ended up reencoded as pgp key userid field by cosmic rays, and submitted to phuctor also by cosmic rays ?
asciilifeform: (it is not in sks.)
BingoBoingo: ty pete_dushenski
BingoBoingo: brb, siesta
phf: asciilifeform: it's an attack against a pgp key consumer with a specially broken viewer. userid in this case tries very hard to account for specific set of circumstances (i'm seeing 4 vectors so far), and we're only matching for one, specifically fact that ben_vulpes doesn't sanitize his html.
asciilifeform: phf: i was reasoning from the fact that this pubkey does not appear to exist anywhere, publicly, other than phuctor.
phf: one bug requires a special broken version of mozilla for example, where x-imap4-modified-utf7 is exposed as a possible meta charset encoding
asciilifeform: phf: where is the payload though ?
asciilifeform: all i see is the dropper
phf: i suspect it's an external url in either of those two pieces of obfuscated content, that base64 chunk or the x-imap4-modified-utf7 pieces
asciilifeform: they both show in public collections of old 0days, so prolly not
mircea_popescu: lol ben_vulpes made a lisp.
deedbot: [Qntra] Tree Nuts Liberated In California - http://qntra.net/2016/08/tree-nuts-liberated-in-california/
mircea_popescu: likely explanation low effort trolling.
asciilifeform: looks like.
asciilifeform: but why generate such gnarly modulus.
asciilifeform: i suspect that it was, precisely as mircea_popescu describes, low-effort - ~key gen~. which is to say, it was not meant, necessarily, to pop
asciilifeform: but was genned scriptologically, and author cut corners, and made q = nextprime(p)
asciilifeform: modulus, note, happened 5 times, someone was testing whatever.
jurov: trinque, just get yourself an n900
asciilifeform: jurov: thread was about 'dumb' phones..
jurov: it is dumb. no pokemons.
jurov: just plain debian :D
trinque: asciilifeform: phf: data:;base64,cG9zdE1lc3NhZ2UoJ2FsZXJ0KDEpJyk --> postMessage('alert(1)')
trinque: no URL there
trinque: this thing is retarded
asciilifeform: 'dumb' as i understand, traditionally means battery life measured in ~weeks~
asciilifeform: trinque: it is, as far as i can tell, a paste of a stock metasploit thing.
asciilifeform: was a test.
trinque: god, nsa has the same copypasta problems as any large american software firm!
asciilifeform: prolly just some lamer.
phf: trinque: it's truncated from the original, so i agree with asciilifeform or mircea_popescu it's either a very very lame hacking "attempt" or a troll
phf: "iPad-only is the new desktop Linux ios medium.com"
mircea_popescu: by now most of the cattle has been pushed out of the actual computing market through simple attrition - they can;t afford $500 for a computer, nor understand why it'd be useful, and the "smart" p[honme was free with their plan.
asciilifeform: phf: wat?
mircea_popescu: so they're stuck dicking around on capacitive displays
mircea_popescu: if the trend of "smart phones for stupid people" continues a few years, banning mobiles from one's site will become a very respectable heuristic to ensure quality discussion.
phf: asciilifeform: it's the weekly selection of article titles that are so dumb, there's no point in reading any further. content of article is literal elaboration of the title
asciilifeform: gotta love how ios 'almost worx' in 1,001 ways. for instance, you can get a ~functional irc client. BUT it will disconnect after backgrounded for ~30 sec. NO EXCEPTIONS.
mircea_popescu: iirc apple still hasn't figured out the wonder of multitasking.
mircea_popescu: 1990s not come yet .
asciilifeform: i dug in, and turned up, iirc, that this is DELIBERATE
asciilifeform: 'to prevent apps from eating the battery'
mircea_popescu: how exactly could irc client without kbd be "almost work" ?
asciilifeform: on turdroid this cripplement is absent, but things go in opposite direction, battery is eaten by 1,001 mandatory background crapolade
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing takes an external kbd
phf: asciilifeform is secretly vary proficient with ios keyboard
mircea_popescu: does your vibrating bullet also take external tracks + periscope ?
asciilifeform: (and has a primitive on-screen thing, ok for short text)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would if it could!1111
mircea_popescu: you're crayzee.
ben_vulpes: gboard mitigates the horrendity.
hanbot: mircea_popescu is faking user agent beyond the ken of "stupid people"? moreover, there'll just be a mobile app for "not being mobile", what's this banning gonna achieve.
asciilifeform: dafuq is gboard ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: keyboard google wrote for ios.
mircea_popescu: dude keeps derping about his ancient vintage quality kbd, then goes and fucks around on ipad "no feedback" glass jar.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does "swipe" input
mircea_popescu: one day all the various dissonances will resolve spontaneously inside alf and the result will be audible
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've tested 1,001 devices
mircea_popescu: from saturn
ben_vulpes: copes halfway decently with my wot's argot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if somebody sold a morse code arse muscle clenching-powered entry thing, i might test even that.
mircea_popescu: "i tested 1001 devices, i don't know what gboard is"
mircea_popescu: even I know what it is. enough to despise it.
asciilifeform: it isn't a device!111111
phf: asciilifeform eigenstate results in a complete annihilation of known universe
ben_vulpes: i will not tap at screens anymore.
mircea_popescu: neither is any item so far discussed! they're all vices.
mircea_popescu: time to de-vice yo.
mircea_popescu: sinners.
mircea_popescu: the lord is mightly angry.
asciilifeform: i can tell that mircea_popescu never answered mailz with one finger, of one hand, hanging from a rail, from a moving train, over 8kbaud modem...
mircea_popescu: these days i answer most emails with my penis.
asciilifeform: similar!
phf: i couldn't find keyboard with big enough keys
asciilifeform: phf: try those things they make for the arm-less, to press with nose
asciilifeform: i suspect they are penile-compatible!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512482 << recall when there was briefly a fashion for banning obvious microshit victims from one's site ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 21:09 mircea_popescu: if the trend of "smart phones for stupid people" continues a few years, banning mobiles from one's site will become a very respectable heuristic to ensure quality discussion.
asciilifeform: (whatever happened to that ?)
ben_vulpes: ie9 is alive and well among the shoe-purchasing, web-surfing population
mircea_popescu: phf you don't answer with single button press anyway
asciilifeform: ahahahaha mircea_popescu 'killed' boeck, so guess who gets to be the new boeck, https://www.wired.com/2016/07/meet-moxie-marlinspike-anarchist-bringing-encryption-us
asciilifeform: $s marlinspike
a111: 12 results for "marlinspike", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=marlinspike
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure this one is from before.
asciilifeform: 7/31/16
asciilifeform: but yes, he was a 'hot spare.'
asciilifeform: quite possibly since '90s.
asciilifeform: WHY are these jokers always so similar!?1
phf: i like how marlinspike's whisper is the secure alternative to telegram. every time i mention telegram in any tech venue there's always some clown going "use whisper instead telegram is insecure!!!", because in their heads whisper, running on a fully locked down platform, obviously is
mircea_popescu: "ferari better than maserati because 350 vs 320 written on odometer"
asciilifeform: relatedly, i was looking recently at a house and landlord had petrol tank, disembodied, from airplane, and part of a wing
asciilifeform: just lyin' there
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently every chick in poland is named wiktoria
mircea_popescu: da fuck dark irony is this, when's the last time the polish won anything.
asciilifeform: prolly in 'ogniem i mieczem'..
pete_dushenski: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-lonely-ballad-of-the-mobile-lounge << in other phork news, the mobile airport lounges that never quite (ahem) took off.
pete_dushenski: "I was actually happy to see the Hit King get defensive. I kind of felt I was accepted. I heard that about five years ago Pete Rose did an interview, and he said that he wished that I could break that record. Obviously, this time around it was a different vibe. In the 16 years that I have been here, what I’ve noticed is that in America, when people feel like a person is below them, not just in numbers b
pete_dushenski: ut in general, they will kind of talk you up. But then when you get up to the same level or maybe even higher, they get in attack mode; they are maybe not as supportive. I kind of felt that this time."
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512538 << more like written on price tag but same diff really
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 21:46 mircea_popescu: "ferari better than maserati because 350 vs 320 written on odometer"
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512272 << heh no wonder you try 10000001 devices, you put them through gulags and then wonder why they shrivel and die (not that this isn't an excellent darwinian weeding out test)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 17:54 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i had a crapple lappy burst with gas
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512263 << still a few years away from this
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 17:52 BingoBoingo: NO, targeted assasination attempt on a Lord of TMSR
phf: i had that happen to me too by the way, it's my day to day 2011 macbook pro, and even the chassis got bent. all i had to do is order replacement battery and carefully apply a rubber mallet. good luck doing that on recent apple machine(tm)
pete_dushenski: yea, newer mba requires whole laptop back case to be removed to replace battery. probably macbook pro too but i dun really keep up to date anymore
pete_dushenski: the trend away from user meddling is pretty clear though
pete_dushenski: for obvious reasons too. only terrorists (tm) swap parts, customise equipment.
phf: ipad is the new linux on desktop!
pete_dushenski: lol so it seems.
pete_dushenski: https://vimeo.com/101336844 << dunno why anyone would worry about thai succession. crown prince looks like a pimp. wife topless at dinner, 80's pop beats, good times.
pete_dushenski: in other exquisitely refined contravex comments : "I find it fascinating that an otherwise intelligent person is unable to see the huge value of Facebook"
pete_dushenski: isn't it incredibru how well-to-do smart people can still hold stupid opinions even within their own areas of expertise! but haooo!!!!
pete_dushenski: in other lulz, there was article in local paper over the weekend about "bicycling paradise in the paris of the south : buenos aires"
pete_dushenski: no surprise to #trilema readers that no economy = no cars = plenty of room for cyclists
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You just don't see yours coming because the headline will look like http://www.bnd.com/latest-news/article93018537.html#storylink=latest_side
pete_dushenski: there's no online link to the article that i could find, but one or two of the gems were "[some area] has been revitalising since 1980" and "the markets are incredibly diverse and sell everything from car parts to old records"
pete_dushenski: bitch, what the fuck are used car parts doing in your mercados ?!
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: second cop probably drove biker off road. "had accident" after fleeing scene with first copper.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Still no justification for "a few years away" assertion
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i also don't see mine coming because... not lord atm.
BingoBoingo: What does the moment matter in threat modeling?
pete_dushenski: who cares about blogger ?
BingoBoingo: But blogger who aspires to FENDER FLAGS!!!
pete_dushenski: maybe in putin's russia, where stasi are organised, blogger can 'have accidental gas asplosion in apartment', but canada is about as militant as a sack of wet bean sprouts.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: blogger also aspires to harim and castle and and andandnanananndand what of it. dreams are phree for a reason.
BingoBoingo: Canada not militant? Have you seen the crew cuts on Toronto's womyn?
BingoBoingo: And dreams are not phree
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: those t.o. gurls just wanna hang wif drake. they're wannabe groupies, which is suppose is a type of militantness all its own.
pete_dushenski: *i suppose
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Sometimes being militant just means putting on a show. It however does not help your case that your new Prime Minister is just a metrosexual mockery of Putin who wants to return CADSOC to its glory days
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512484 << I suspect you already do this: there's a decent ssh client you can get for iPhone and I use it to log into a simple little machine at home that runs irssi 24/7 inside of screen
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 21:09 asciilifeform: gotta love how ios 'almost worx' in 1,001 ways. for instance, you can get a ~functional irc client. BUT it will disconnect after backgrounded for ~30 sec. NO EXCEPTIONS.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: um.. how does it not help my case ? living 'under' a metrosexual mockery of something useful is the definition of helping my case. what's trudeau gonna do, whip out yoga pose on me ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Maybe he'll promise to slip some femayo a bit of dick if she kamikazes Saddam
pete_dushenski: femayos only kamikaze in slow-motion, often over the course of several decades, so i'll have plenty of time to move saddam around the corner and out of her fat way.
pete_dushenski wonders who will play jtrudeau in inevitable biopic in 10 years. figures dwaynerock will still be pretty bankable then.
BingoBoingo: It'll prolly be beiber.
pete_dushenski to chase pokebeibs.
mod6: SoBA due out tonight, usually it's already out, sorry for the delay.
BingoBoingo was wondering why Qntra was FIRST by such a margin this month
deedbot: [Qntra] Gawker Media's Nick Denton Personally Files For Bankruptcy - http://qntra.net/2016/08/gawker-medias-nick-denton-personally-files-for-bankruptcy/
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 610.75, Best ask: 610.76, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 610.75, 24 hour volume: 34597.90350973, 24 hour low: 605.89, 24 hour high: 630.28, 24 hour vwap: None
BingoBoingo: archived snapshot of defunct mpex.ws domain for posteriority https://archive.is/Q2GOH
BingoBoingo: Sheeeit
asciilifeform: shinohai: source ?
asciilifeform: is it motherfucking reddit ?!
shinohai: no, twitter
shinohai: "Son was playing pokemon go ....."
shinohai: This explains all.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That sort of phone ransom thing is not unheard of. Emerging lulz.
trinque: iOS jailbreak has been a thing since forever, yet somehow that doesn't translate into "swiss cheese exploitable crapware"
asciilifeform: trinque: recent years' jailbreak need, iirc, a cable connection.
asciilifeform: so recipe needs to include a trojanned box.
trinque: ah, thought I recalled a few that went right through the web browser
asciilifeform: originally
asciilifeform: the other thing is, pnoje is ~always backed up to 'cloud' etc., ~and~ has vendor reset mode that lets you reformat.
asciilifeform: so i have nfi what kind of imbecile would pay the ransom.
BingoBoingo: Turns out fats run /r/fatlogic https://archive.is/ei0LS
BingoBoingo: "Then use a gender neutral pronoun, it's not that hard." << BUT "it" is the gender neutral pronoun!
asciilifeform: in other pnoje lulz, http://www.pps.ru/?part=catalog&product=232 << 'acoustic safe'
asciilifeform: apparently this is a thing.
mod6: diana_coman: congrats on eulora release!
asciilifeform: http://www.pps.ru/?part=catalog&product=248 << their nonlinear junction detector catalogue appears to include one that goes up arse..
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaaaaaaaand,
asciilifeform: dun miss:
BingoBoingo: lol they're going to find pete!
asciilifeform: Run Moar Consumer Biometric Gadgets, Especially Cloud-Uploading Retina Scannerz.
asciilifeform: (coming soon!1111)
BingoBoingo: Continued from yesterday https://archive.is/GnWWZ
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/einsatzgruppen_jewdetector.png <<< 3rd Party Device SDKs!!!!1111eleven
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu fermat with 100,000 iter. / mod. (3518444 mods) ran to completion. found still just the 2.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: total runtime ~5 hrs., 16 cpu.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512600 << bush girls would get party belligerent at smith point from time to time, main difference was that between bouncers and secret service, there's no way anybody was filming anything and still retained possession of device
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 23:39 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GFM2udKcts
BingoBoingo: Of course
phf: i guess goes to mircea_popescu's often repeated points about a difference between king and bureaucrat
phf "please don't be a grotesquely large woman"
BingoBoingo: phf: Not a grotesquely large woman
thestringpuller: texas has da best educatio
thestringpuller: wut u talkin bout
BingoBoingo: Nope, whitey ruined University of Houston
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