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mats: i look forward to reading about the ensuing power struggle after IS gets squashed
mats: and then the subsequent IS resurgence
ben_vulpes: > 560 additional troops
ben_vulpes: > assist iraqi troops
ben_vulpes: > IS gets squashed
mats: not sure if you've been following, but they've lost a lot of territory recently
mats: ~40% according to some
mats: and they don't have planes
mats: i expect coalition forces to succeed
mats: eventually
shinohai: here i thought i was the only person with insomnia in trilema
shinohai: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 420788 | Current Difficulty: 2.133989253313239E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 421343 | Next Difficulty In: 555 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 3 hours, 24 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/13Yf
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Framedragger: lolwut, Apocalyptic was wrong by deciding to play in the wrong sandbox? Ok.
Framedragger: regarding LAMP stacks and blog software: static site generators are there for a reason. significantly smaller codebases and attack surfaces cf. wordpress. just sayin'.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 18:53 phf: trinque: i suggested one, ascii couldn't get past first line
jurov: Framedragger: how do you do comments with static generator? *bleh* gravatar?
Framedragger: jurov: that, of course, is a problem. but surely "everything dynamic or everything static & no comments" is a false dichotomy? could you not have an html form which POSTs to a separate dynamic handler which is only responsible for comments? a "current comments" static html page is generated upon every new approved comment, etc.
Framedragger: (maybe i just described a spec that i should one day implement, heh)
Framedragger: i'm amused that it's hard to find something like this, i.e. static generator _and_ a comment handler component
jurov: and then you want to remove some spam and edit "current comments" file in place?
Framedragger: each comment saved as separate file, to be removed etc using normal system tools; any modifcation under tree triggers static content regeneration
Framedragger: not saying that it'd be wisiwyg-pretty
Framedragger: *wysiwyg
jurov: and then you decide you want to store metadata for comments, that means moar files or some gnarly file format :)
Framedragger: sure, it *may* descend into madness, you're right!
Framedragger: i guess the only way to convince people would be to present a working PoC with working spam mitigation, hm.
Framedragger: but at this point im more interested to try my hand at 'p2p/federated content system', a la mp's e2e encrypted generalized forum idea, whatever this resolves to in the particular.
jurov: one step at a time, i guess
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: When I find one that seems to have this it draws the not unimportant criticism that it requires the whole Plan 9 userspace
asciilifeform: 'Welcome to the Blockchain! Your voice is worth something' << this has got to be a parody
BingoBoingo: More on the new surveillance revolution "This app [poke-a-man Go] did in 24 hours what Michelle Obama couldn’t do in eight years. It gets kids off the couch and moving."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503172 << bbbuut barbarians always defeat rome!1111
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 06:46 mats: and they don't have planes
BingoBoingo: I'm not sure they *need* the Levant if they have France
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] “Suppose we have an exchange that, due to resource limitations, is limited to 5 decimal places for orders”, or how Kraken is scamming to stay solvent. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/07/15/suppose-we-have-an-exchange-that-due-to-resource-limitations-is-limited-to-5-decimal-places-for-orders-or-how-kraken-is-scamming-to-stay-solvent/
mircea_popescu: lol "bitcoin as a real" derps
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503173 << looks like they had some sort of falling out or w/e, not too clear.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 06:48 mats: i expect coalition forces to succeed
mircea_popescu: but imo odds are yet another replacement group will show up. the notion of coallition success is ridiculous, the arabs are just wearing them down, exact same way they did to the french in north africa a century ago.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, when digging into eth etc in light of 'turing-complete!111 programmable!1111' scamatronics, i was somewhat surprised that they did not add the flourish of 'algebraic coin'
asciilifeform: 'you have sqrt(2) eth!'
mircea_popescu: because they don't even VAGUELY understand wtf they're doing
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? it's not the case of a person making design decisions on some basis leading to some results.
asciilifeform: didn't they round up an entire circus of academics etc ?
mircea_popescu: it's the case amoeba in an agar fell upon some grains of sugar and are now taking their approximate shape, as perceived by amoebic senses
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that apparently doesn't at all help.
mircea_popescu: who knew "academic" == "shannonizer"
asciilifeform: or possibly this is rather like complaining that cargo cult straw airplane lacks real hydraulics
asciilifeform: it's a sham, for fooling illiterate natives, what hydraulics.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but the main problem is that the african/pacific islander notion of "water" precludes hydraulics for a number of solidly good reasons a few derivations prior.
asciilifeform: this also.
mircea_popescu: all these in the spirit of cixi's too loud train : "water abhors metal recipients"
mircea_popescu: well fuck you jack, you're not making ceramic hydraqulics.
asciilifeform: or kruger/slocum.
mircea_popescu: examples abound.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i expect 'must evaluate expression with unknowns to learn how much shitcoin you really have' will one day appear.
asciilifeform: it is an almost inevitable thing, per the familiar chumpatronic model (consider fiatola 'middle class' fella trying to evaluate his net worth, sitting in a pile of bezzles of 1,001 types)
mircea_popescu: it's already here : raise your shitcoin holdings to whatever power you feel like and then multiply the result by zero to find out how much value you're holding.
asciilifeform: matchbox computer !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, it happens another place. ipad games!
mircea_popescu: the ~only successful ipad mmorpgs consist of exactly this : make 500 minigames loosely bunched together in a "daily activity meter" list of rewards,
mircea_popescu: produce 500 different coins that are inexchangeable
mircea_popescu: people have "fun" through sheer confusion. plus they're never done playing.
asciilifeform: i dun see the fun there.
mircea_popescu: "your poverty is so complicated you can literally never finish evaluating just how poor you are."
mircea_popescu: yeah well you're not in the demo.
asciilifeform: i'm not exactly outside the demo, but still dun see..
mircea_popescu: you are not in the demo even vaguely. ipad games are for millenials. kids of a very peculiar plato's cave upbringing. kids that never killed an animal with their own hands ; that never ran until they lost balance, that never fought with the boys or pulled the girl's hair an' skirts.
mircea_popescu: it's a thing, you're not it.
asciilifeform: i tried many times, these games, and the lack of keyboard and mouse ruins it all
asciilifeform: the strange thing is, a ~pen~ would work quite well for lucas arts / sierra / etc. adventures
asciilifeform: but where are the pen machines !
asciilifeform: they sorta vanished
mircea_popescu: that stylus crap ? stupid idea srsly.
asciilifeform: the wacom radio pen
asciilifeform: not the pressure pen idiocy
mircea_popescu: it may be to complex.
asciilifeform: i picked up an old 'dell' at a junk store not long ago, that had built-in wacom-esque pen, and tried using it
asciilifeform: but it goes out of alignment in minutes
asciilifeform: i have nfi if this was so when it was new, and hence why the thing can only be seen in junk shops, or otherwise.
asciilifeform: if you think about it, wacom has ridiculously tight tolerances
asciilifeform: probably even needs thermal compensation, if you want the pixels-to-pen-nib relation to stay just-so
asciilifeform: this is a shame, because i ~like~ pens
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503180 << let it be said that if you wander into the courthouse one day and staple an invitation to your hipster fair / recruitment drive on the judge's face he'll whack you once and if that doesn't do it you'll spend the next month in county jail thinking things through. it's a thing, there's a hierarchy in realia, which obviously isn't obligatory to dreamers - up until the dog comes.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 10:16 Framedragger: lolwut, Apocalyptic was wrong by deciding to play in the wrong sandbox? Ok.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it may be a quantum problem actually.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno about it being a deep problem, wacom sells a $couple-of-k display unit with warrantied alignment
asciilifeform: but i never had it, cannot comment.
mircea_popescu: me either.
asciilifeform: admittedly i want this for cad, rather than sierra gamez.
asciilifeform: but not badly enough.
asciilifeform: apparently there is now 7 types of this thing, since i last saw (decade or so ago.)
asciilifeform: if anybody reading this has used one of them gadgets, plz write in.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503181 << yeah this is tru. of course nothing keeps one from having wp output static pages also.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 10:31 Framedragger: regarding LAMP stacks and blog software: static site generators are there for a reason. significantly smaller codebases and attack surfaces cf. wordpress. just sayin'.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503184 << can STILL use the pure html form method discussed http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-14#1502869 re chat bot.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 15:57 mircea_popescu: if anyone wants the project, can be (probably SHOULD be) implemented as pure html, just a form.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 11:55 jurov: Framedragger: how do you do comments with static generator? *bleh* gravatar?
mircea_popescu: dubious if it's worth the hassle, which is ~why i never seriously pursued it.
asciilifeform: long ago, i tried my hand at 'sane blogging engine' and barfed; simply can't stand wwwtronic idiocy, e.g,. 'logging in', 'browser state', https crapolade tower, css, etc.
asciilifeform: it is fundamentally evil.
asciilifeform: and creaks at the seams, no matter what you do.
asciilifeform: re: earlier thread: i'm a little surprised that nobody (afaik) has combined the sensing antennae of 'wacom'-like apparatus into the lcd pixel addressing lines themselves.
asciilifeform: this would handily eliminate alignment as a thing.
asciilifeform: in other 'yesterday's nobel is tomorrow's homework' nyooz, http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2016/07/14/cloudflare-we-have-a-problem
asciilifeform: and re: last night's 'keep on truckin'!' >> 'An eyewitness to the attack described the driver as "a young guy, very focused on what he was doing." "He didn't looking angry," John Lambert told CBC News. "He wasn't screaming or shouting. He was just … focusing on the job."' ( http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nice-truck-bastille-day-1.3680294 )
pete_dushenski: this daylight theft wrapped up as 'transparencee' caters directly to teh aspie crowd, the kind who fancies himself genre savvy without really being so. the victim of 'taught controversy', if you will.
trinque: yup, it's about farming "consensus"
trinque: or BingoBoingo's "the debate was had"
pete_dushenski: trinque: exactly
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503203 << coalition can use levant to blackmail taleb into making all swans white and, by extension, all blacks safe from harassment. ITS SUREFIRE!!1
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 14:56 BingoBoingo: I'm not sure they *need* the Levant if they have France
pete_dushenski: or 'no brainer' as is the fashion
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-live-to-be-rich/#comment-118078 << speaking of the fashion, don't be too harsh u guise!! jeez why can't everyone just take a chill pill
pete_dushenski: http://fox13now.com/2016/07/14/car-bomb-explosion-kills-one-in-southeast-nevada/ << in which nevada looks increasingly like baghdad after the fall.
pete_dushenski: https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/14/nintendos-classic-mini-is-a-tiny-nes-with-30-games/ << whattheshitthisiscoolgimmegimmegimmeonenownownowiwantitrightfuckingnow. ok i can wait until nov 11 but for $60 how not ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503266 <- I *tried* to use a small wacom tablet & pen thing and it was quite atrocious really
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 17:36 asciilifeform: if anybody reading this has used one of them gadgets, plz write in.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: "no car bombs, no evil, no bad things here! best republic of freedom and fries ever invented is weee"
diana_coman: it *can* be used if one needs to in the sense that yes, one can get some job done with it, but otherwise control is rather poor, have to scroll/move hand awkwardly to cover all the screen, pen is not even very comfortable to use/grip (at least not for my hand) etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what kind of bits were you moving ?
diana_coman: this was however a tablet so not a display in itself
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm?
asciilifeform: what sort of work
danielpbarron: i have a broken toshiba portege m200 that had a decent pen/touchscreen thing, but that was with winbl0wz and I can't imagine it would be easy to get that working on a linux
pete_dushenski: *trump's running mate
pete_dushenski: "mike pences"
asciilifeform: Hände hoch!!!1111
diana_coman: ah, I just played around a bit with it kind of tried all sorts from some basic drawing to handwriting (it was supposedly to be useful for some remote discussions kind of stuff) to mouse replacement
diana_coman: at least this worked with linux, must add
pete_dushenski has friends in france atm. figures that they haven't called from nth republican prison yet is a good sign.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is possible to read the raw numbers from the pen, in linux, yes - even tilt angles. but afaik there is no proggy that usefully eats them.
asciilifeform: you can move cursor, and that's ~it.
shinohai: http://archive.is/MuKCl <<< gearing up for next classic push
diana_coman: asciilifeform, quite
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i do, e.g., cad, and would like to be able to, say, rotate a part by pinning it with a pen, and turning the pen. but this does not, afaik, exist.
asciilifeform: and i know of no particular reason why not.
asciilifeform: shinohai: contingent of fresh shills? i did say, they will never run out
asciilifeform: 'Making non-mining full nodes “fork-tolerant” by decoupling them from the miners with respect to the prevailing block size limit. There is no need for ordinary node owners to upgrade as and when miners do, or accept a risky “flag day” event. Bitcoin Unlimited already has fork-tolerant nodes via BUIP001 where non-mining nodes always track the longest Proof-of-Work chain, and are agnostic to block version resizing flags.' << l0
asciilifeform: 'we won't anally roger you, but we will insert this painless road cone, in advance, and you will not even feel it when it is replaced with cock'
asciilifeform: 'Adoption of Xtreme Thinblocks (Xthin) such that all implementations have interoperable fast block propagation. Results from recent testing involving nodes both inside and outside Mainland China indicates that blocks up to 20MB are manageable for the network.' << 'crock of shit will collapse overnight if clients actually try to validate mega-blox, so forget about it'
diana_coman: hm, as far as I know it should be able to pin the part/shape based on position+pressure and then I don't see indeed why wouldn't it be able to react to turning the pen - maybe it's a precision thing?
asciilifeform: 'validation is for distrustful terrorists'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is a trivial technical problem, that will likely never be solved, because there is no open cad proggy worth a sparrow's fart.
asciilifeform: likewise there is no open drawing proggy worth half a sparrow's fart
asciilifeform: (anyone who brings up gimp immediately reveals himself as someone who never drew anything more complex than 'rageface')
asciilifeform: even 'deluxe paint II' for amiga (!) beats the shit out of gimp.
pete_dushenski: " SW in particular has a number of strong benefits but also alters fundamental code that underpins billions of dollars in value. For this reason we have sympathy with the proposal that it be implemented in Litecoin first. After a period of 6 to 12 months SW could then be applied to Bitcoin, incorporating any lessons learned." << why not experiment with eth ? dao ? c-ripple even ? digging up ltc corpse is
pete_dushenski: like clinton digging up corpse of confucius in justifying centralised mega-bureaucracy
shinohai: Because if we don't do it to Bitcoin, we lost the war and our upboats meant NOTHING!!!!
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: recall that usg sits on top of egyptian pyramid - sized heap of fpga. why not, then, hijack an old, familiar scrypt-based altcoin, and proclaim 'see, YES WE CAN!111' etc
asciilifeform: hence ltc.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: gotta love the '6-12 months' bit too. so vague, so comminuteee oriented, so 'when the feeling strikes'
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: is it clear to you that usg has edge with scrypt over chicoms ?
diana_coman is not much into graphics but has heard more of Inkscape than Gimp
asciilifeform: ask the fella with the intel and s33333r111t evidence, not me
asciilifeform: diana_coman: inkscape is almost usable
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: mp didn't make egyptian fpga claim!!1
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: xilinx and altera make $B+ of them / yr and they aren't going into tv sets etc.
asciilifeform: usg is ~sole buyer, everybody else - rounding error.
asciilifeform: i have nfi for what they are used, for all i know they glue them into a throne for hitler to sit in.
pete_dushenski: hard to believe that brokeback usg is spending $bn on anything useful just to store in industrial warehouse until majick ltc day cometh
asciilifeform: not stored, no
asciilifeform: powered.
pete_dushenski: what, mining ltc then ?
asciilifeform: after the demise of cray, the old machines were decommissioned, and replaced with ???
asciilifeform: (we know that ??? eats plenty of mains current, and requires titanic coolers, just like the old crays; and likewise that it does not consist wholly of stock x86 boxes.)
pete_dushenski: so pardon my ignorance but what were crays used for back when they were used ?
asciilifeform: cryptoanalysis.
pete_dushenski: i hesitate to ask what usg understands 'cryptoanalysis' to mean in practical terms because it's hard to fathom that it can either think or act on such terms, but...
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the usg that promulgates diddled ciphers which are then breakable with array of fpga, and the usg that puts my mail into the box across the street, are not same entity.
pete_dushenski: o hey xilinx has market cap of $12 bn aka 1/30th of facebook.
pete_dushenski: looks like it's pretty obvious where their marketing efforts are going atm eh
pete_dushenski: $s metansa
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i'm aware of this ancient thread. aha
pete_dushenski: pretty much reduces to dan's 'invisible visible god' yknow
trinque: that the thing is politically inept does not reduce to "never did anything ever"
trinque: however politically expedient
danielpbarron: Dan is not a nickname for Daniel. The former came way before the latter. Dan was a son of Jacob (Israel), Daniel was a prophet who came generations later
pete_dushenski: trinque: 'never' and 'ever' are long timeframes, granted. but where do you draw the line ?
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: well, dan isn't a nickname for daniel.... except it is. that different people are better known by one or the other doesn't change the fact that 'king dick the lionheart' is perfectly valid
pete_dushenski: ...if you're in the position to name things
trinque: "usg" is not a cohesive whole
danielpbarron goes by Daniel
trinque: the part which breaks cryptography for insider trading and such isn't necessarily the same which ham-handedly lights the middle east on fire
trinque: one of the interesting parts of the coming disintegration of the federal govt is getting to see what gangs exist within
pete_dushenski: to be sure, parts aren't the same because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1502227
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 20:35 mircea_popescu: "oh i know, we've created a sort of monarchy without a king, basically just the court and nobody there to behead us - we'll call it democracy. if anyone inquires into the matter we can always add modern in front and it'll be all good!"
trinque: aha
pete_dushenski: but them not being the same and the possibility of one being effective are differing considerations
pete_dushenski: they can both be different and useless. so why isn't this the case ?
trinque: "sucks because usg" is blunt and useless analysis
trinque: "usg" launched a saturn v once
trinque: I criticize "USG" as a category; it barely defines anything
pete_dushenski: blunt, yes. useless, far from it. it's a highly efficient heuristic
trinque: yes, because this is how the allies beat the nazis, by parroting "nazis can't do anything anyway"
trinque: these nazis certainly *can* break various forms of "SSL", to pick something at random
pete_dushenski: which is why they want the internet to be 'safe' by using exactly that broken technology. sure. but this is like the hunter who only visits the zoo. can you still call him an effective hunter ?
trinque: this is precisely mircea_popescu's and asciilifeform's conversation (yesterday?) about the definition of an army
pete_dushenski: i can see it.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-14 21:15 mircea_popescu: armies win.
trinque: so, while I loathe the creature, while it still sits there, it is *literally* still effective.
pete_dushenski: right. and usg... doesn't win.
trinque: ...
trinque: if wishes were.. or however the thing goes
trinque: $s from:asciilifeform cribbed
a111: 19 results for "from:asciilifeform cribbed", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aasciilifeform%20cribbed
trinque: there is no god in the sky handing out flags for bad form
pete_dushenski: you can only say that usg is 'literally' effective if you degrade the definition of effective to the point where it's what petrocheese is to french brie
pete_dushenski: ie. not the high watermark so much as a tenuously related shadow of the thing itself
trinque: and yet it sits there, and you do not.
pete_dushenski: and yet i sit here, and usg does not.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503273 << in principle you don't want logging for browser ; just to identify the owner. this is not so unlike the concept of root. otherwise - logins are mostly a "forum" ie, www-bbs item
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 17:49 asciilifeform: long ago, i tried my hand at 'sane blogging engine' and barfed; simply can't stand wwwtronic idiocy, e.g,. 'logging in', 'browser state', https crapolade tower, css, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and admin how ?
asciilifeform: (enter new ps0ts, mod comments, etc)
mircea_popescu: you also don't as a matter of principle need or want https. you might notice trilema redirects you to http
mircea_popescu: as to css, whatevs. isn't actually needed.
trinque: pete_dushenski: the world can not both be befouled by socialism and socialism be ineffective *at creating the products of socialism*
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you need ONE magic login is what i mean, not infinity logins.
asciilifeform: 1 is not any easier than 1,001
asciilifeform: it pulls in the whole shitstack
mircea_popescu: not the way it works on mp-wp, not really.
pete_dushenski: trinque: possibly. digesting. bbiab.
asciilifeform: from my reading of the src, mp-wp does not materially differ from stock wp in this respect
trinque: pete_dushenski: cheers
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503282 << note that usg.crap is always "rape as marital bliss", "bankruptcy as wealth" etc etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 18:26 pete_dushenski: this daylight theft wrapped up as 'transparencee' caters directly to teh aspie crowd, the kind who fancies himself genre savvy without really being so. the victim of 'taught controversy', if you will.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it does - login is chiefly by-ip. even if the "cookies" nonsense has not been excised.
asciilifeform: this does 0 against mitm.
mircea_popescu: sure sure, let someone mitm your blog. dumbest use ever.
asciilifeform: not any dumber than mitming my trb node.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503284 << yeah, also a large piece of the dumbsenal. "this shouldn't be discussed because it already was" "when and by whom ?" "don't ask so many questions"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 18:27 trinque: or BingoBoingo's "the debate was had"
asciilifeform: speaking of which, i'd still like to know where bock got all of those pubkeys that aren't in sks.
asciilifeform: (a coupla dozen unaccounted for)
asciilifeform: and what, precisely, kept him from having exact superset of sks, for that matter, i got quite a few which he did not.
asciilifeform: in all likelihood, the crock of shit was concocted with the aim of making us waste some cycles attempting to answer said q's.
trinque: BingoBoingo: ^ maybe moar weather
pete_dushenski: http://www.gizmag.com/tap-strap-wearable-bluetooth-keyboard/43337/ << speaking of styluses and alt-input devices, i give you this abomination.
pete_dushenski: trinque: gotta love 'illegal attempt' to seize power. well ya, no shit. what fucking legal attempts to seize power could there possibly be ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: snore, for same reason as the laser keyboard of 10 yrs ago
asciilifeform: or the touch screen idiocy
pete_dushenski: or palm pilot 'script' twenty years ago
asciilifeform: without a mechanical dampener, it is same as banging against the wall.
asciilifeform: folks with a propensity for this, used to be put in padded cell
asciilifeform: so they do not damage themselves.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: palm pilot script was useful.
asciilifeform: it was a reasonable simulacrum of handwriting, for short inputs, rather than a futile banging of your fingers against unresponsive surface
phf: pete_dushenski: compared to shit that came out since palm pilot script was amazing
pete_dushenski: aha. i had one as a kid. it was very spiffy toy.
asciilifeform: i still miss the thing
phf: it's funny how back then was like "well, this is not quite there, but i'm sure they'll work out kinks in the future"
asciilifeform: and every so often toy with the idea of getting one and cleaning it up
asciilifeform: phf: aha!
phf: and now people buy newtons and apples on ebay because available personal organizers are awful
phf: newtons and palms rather
asciilifeform: but every time i look at newton, i recall why it died, thing fits in ~no pocket.
pete_dushenski: same as iphone 6 'plus'
pete_dushenski: or samsung 'note'
pete_dushenski: meant for purse, not pocket
asciilifeform: not even every purse.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i had several, ending with that one.
asciilifeform: it even had rechargeable battery !
phf: i couldn't afford pro level palm, had to use "visor"
pete_dushenski: it was a bit too geek chic for artsy school but i enjoyed it.
asciilifeform: the thing was nearly perfect for reading plain text.
asciilifeform: was good for very little else, but the screen was amazing
asciilifeform: pure b&w, with backlight, but quite readable without
asciilifeform: try and find this today. at ANY price point.
phf: i use a psion as an organizer, and i still can't get used to the fact that it looks ~good~ in direct sunlight. like it's some amazing novel technology
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: have you tried sony 'digital paper' ?
phf: pete_dushenski: we've had this in logs :> it runs some form of windows ce
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: looks like 'kindle' but with SLIGHTLY higher res
asciilifeform: why would i pay 700 for this??
pete_dushenski: phf: aha! missed the 'ce' bit
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: because 'any price point' includes 700
asciilifeform: but NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR
asciilifeform: i've been reading plain text off epaper for years now. but only because it is IMPOSSIBLE to get device with decent b&w reflective lcd.
asciilifeform: i ~like~ lcd, and its crisp edges, epaper is fuzzy, like badly tuned old crt
asciilifeform: and has no way to optionally backlight, as it is not transparent
asciilifeform: (latest 'kindle' has a frontlight, but it is not same thing, but more like what old electronic wristwatches had)
pete_dushenski: holy cromoly that's some lightning outside. this must be the rainiest summer in memory. every afternoon with the wet stuff!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: ya, just saw that 'digital paper' isn't backlit
asciilifeform: the other abominable thing about epaper is the refresh rate
asciilifeform: it redraws, slowly, visibly to the naked eye
asciilifeform: forget about, e.g., scrolling.
pete_dushenski: like etch-a-sketch aha
asciilifeform: and before anyone asks, yes i have the latest example made.
asciilifeform: it is 5% faster, big fat fucking deal
asciilifeform: not a replacement for lcd.
asciilifeform: i can even tell you what is in store for epaper aficionados: the thing will be colourized, and the original b&w version will be taken off the market; just as with lcd; the colour version will be blurrier and less suitable for text, but WATCH LOLCATS YOU TERRORIST
trinque: webbyz:
trinque: ah rap
trinque: *crap
phf: i was really happy with the old keyboard kindle, it had free internet, and was just generally a very promising oldfag device. hardware keyboard, promising screen, ~lighter than any versions since~, had a bunch of linux hacks including a terminal. i ported a zork interpreter to it. and of course amazon doesn't care about oldfag market, so kindles went downhill fast since
asciilifeform: phf: i still have that one ('dx')
asciilifeform: and a more recent unit, with frontlight, which i gave to pet, i could not abide the lack of mechanical switches
phf: yeah, i have a dx too, i also have two or three small keyboard ones, but they break easily (i broke like 4 or 5) with they way i use them anyway, and since the kindle direction is clearly dodgy i just don't feel like doing anything with them
asciilifeform: epaper is a disappointment, imho; there was some promising tech in 'static lcd' (which draws 0 current when holding image) while retaining the speed/crispness; but afaik it died.
asciilifeform: a decade or so ago, there was an outfit ('pixel qi') that purported to sell sunlight-viewable displays, they were, iirc, well-received, but also died.
asciilifeform: i guess modern konsooomer is expected to sit in a cave, like a mole, and not try to use machinery in the sun
trinque: I researched those this week; pixel qi sold to an outfit that seems to be sitting on the patents
pete_dushenski expects pokemon go to revolutionise sun limitations of screens
trinque: apparently still manufacturing
phf: or just crank up the backlight burning through battery until next recharge
asciilifeform: trinque: manufacturing for whom ?
asciilifeform: trinque: where can anything containing 'pixel qi' be bought ?
asciilifeform: i'ma guess it now services usg (e.g., 'general dynamics' army laptops) solely.
trinque: I just called them actually, asking pricing and so on.
trinque: that Tripuso bought Pixel Qi's tech
trinque: got voicemail
asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise.
asciilifeform: trinque: even if you could buy the panel (they do appear on, e.g., ebay, regularly) -- where do you intend to put it ?
asciilifeform: thing doesn't take anything like a vga or dvi input.
asciilifeform: you could try to locate one of the laptops they worked with (qi was sold as an after-market add-on thing) but they weren't much to write home about.
trinque: asciilifeform: I've seen them wired up to controller boards that speak vga/hdmi around the net
asciilifeform: trinque: have fun carrying board and desktop around...
asciilifeform: my point was that the thing will fit in no recent portable gadget.
asciilifeform: and this is not a problem with qi specifically, but with konsoomer crapolade in general.
trinque: asciilifeform: https://www.adafruit.com/product/1303 << this isn't that big.
asciilifeform: no 2 'tablets' , afaik, have interchangeable lcd.
asciilifeform: trinque: bigger than a palm V !!
asciilifeform: and betcha it wants 12v
asciilifeform: where will you get it ?
asciilifeform: pretty much all amateur attempts at portable computer are comically clunky.
asciilifeform: i know of 0 exceptions.
trinque: I'm not launching a product here, lol
trinque: looks like a neat toy
asciilifeform: even as a one-of-a-kind handmade thing
asciilifeform: nobody, afaik, has done anything of the kind.
asciilifeform: anyway, exotic lcd aside, i would HAPPILY buy a device with newton's lcd but modern (lightweight) micro inside.
asciilifeform: but no such thing exists or is ever likely to.
pete_dushenski: https://bugcrowd.com/fca << megal0lotron. if anyone thought apocalyptic's work offers were insulting low, they haven't seen fiat chrysler's yet.
asciilifeform: because lolcats dun look so hot on a 480x320 lcd.
phf: hehe, that teardown is amusing
shinohai: I found a bug, car is pos made in America. Send bounty plox.
pete_dushenski: lol toyota camry is 'made in america' and isn't fit for the poubelle. NICE TRY.
pete_dushenski: a whole host of mercs ~are~ made in us of a, however, and yes, are little more than very expensive and equally disposable smartph0nes
pete_dushenski: bmws idem.
shinohai: The lolz, "Germany has denied Erdogan permission to land his plane."
pete_dushenski: long gone are the days of von moltke and the close ties between prussia and the ottomans eh
shinohai: So it appears,
pete_dushenski: (helmuth von moltke 'westernised' the ottoman army in the 1830s)
shinohai: Well army has declared coup, so let's see how well this little drama plays out.
shinohai: Erogdan "I'm still in charge folks, I can tweet!"
pete_dushenski: apparently that little rain storm was worse than i thought... chunks of the city are w/o power... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/roads-flooding-in-edmonton-after-epic-thunderstorm-1.3681796 << "epic!"
pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/KentMGlobal/status/753996788638494720 << in other local news, you might not be interested in isis tactics, but isis tactics are interested in you.
pete_dushenski: s/isis/buddhist monk worx too
shinohai: http://archive.is/GgzK6 <<< dao 2.0 I guess will be engineered by *surprise!* a startup
trinque: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnb6CbtXEAItLeI.jpg << ah how hilariously humiliating.
phf: trinque: where's that from?
asciilifeform: clearly tr deeesperately wants into eu!1111
asciilifeform: phf: in the logz already
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 18:45 asciilifeform: http://www.lccentral.com/2016/07/13/explosion-in-panaca << already censored.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all i could find is 'sheriff concludes that only bomber died' and 'attempted revenge on boss'
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 18:54 shinohai: http://archive.is/MuKCl <<< gearing up for next classic push
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is "andrew clifford" again ?
asciilifeform: they called up the tardreservez?
shinohai: Obviously he is someone that thinks "open letters" to the "komoooonuity" will work.
mircea_popescu: oh this is hysterical lmao.
mircea_popescu: bitco.in › ... › Bitcoin Protocol › Bitcoin Unlimited 11 ian. 2016 - BUIP011: Andrew Clifford for President Submitted 12/01/2016 I think that a lot of people will know my posts from bitcointalk, reddit, and now the
mircea_popescu: meanwhile beleeted, but you can imagine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall buterin's humble beginnings as a "bitcoin magazine" gofer ?
mircea_popescu: back when the circle of derps thought they not only have some power in bitcoin, but outright control it ? 2011ish or so ?
mircea_popescu: ah, lotta lulz buried in there.
asciilifeform: but i'd be the last to know
mircea_popescu: anyway. he started exactly like this other schmuck.
asciilifeform: not having a staff of latrine divers, nor esp. inclined myself, i tend to be a little behind on such tidbits
asciilifeform: but yes, every servant of evil has some rock he once crawled out under from
mircea_popescu: makes sense.
asciilifeform: i suppose old muppet tore, new one is being readied.
mircea_popescu: anyway. /me vaguely considers leaving the derp a "stop posturing ; read the required material", but whatevs.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503327 << just because you have wild, entirely unsuported in practice expectations of a gui, and just because you don't know how to / want to script it, doesn't mean the tool doesn't work.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:02 asciilifeform: even 'deluxe paint II' for amiga (!) beats the shit out of gimp.
mircea_popescu: it WILL take scheme. stop whining.
asciilifeform: 'want a glass of beer..? here's a pile of hydrogen, go, fuse'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503331 << this is a nice theory, but afaik it was exactly never verified in practice. it's altogether improbable the excel secret agents are actually capable of managing the farm / applying it to any definite purpose.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:09 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: recall that usg sits on top of egyptian pyramid - sized heap of fpga. why not, then, hijack an old, familiar scrypt-based altcoin, and proclaim 'see, YES WE CAN!111' etc
mircea_popescu: so yes, sits on top of pile ; much like a dog on pile of bricks.
mircea_popescu: it ain't building any dams anytime soon.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ya well.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, when i wanted specific effect i wrote it out, works fine to this day.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most likely, pile sits around busting aes.
mircea_popescu: busting my foot.
asciilifeform: hey that's what it was built for.
asciilifeform: like des prior.
mircea_popescu: and littoral combat ship was built for being fast agile stealth.
mircea_popescu: it manages instead to be lulzy.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503351 << more like glorified word processingf for navy cocksockets.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:14 asciilifeform: cryptoanalysis.
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503530 << paying anything close to a reasonable sum for a bug would be devastatingly uneconomical for most software shops
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 21:21 pete_dushenski: https://bugcrowd.com/fca << megal0lotron. if anyone thought apocalyptic's work offers were insulting low, they haven't seen fiat chrysler's yet.
mats: its really for folks looking to pad their resume
mircea_popescu recalls the defective lock analogy.
asciilifeform: and if yet not aryan enough, they'll simply swallow the goodz and pay 0
asciilifeform: *you're
mats: speaking from experience?
asciilifeform: (or,more often, tell you to piss off)
asciilifeform: mats: possibly
asciilifeform: and on top of this, nobody knows what 'market price' of bug is
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 18:09 mircea_popescu: here's something for the historian in alf! there's ancient statement of the principle, recorded in 1970 milwaukee journal : "You make yourself ridiculous by thinking you can do anything. The word is divided in two. The Russians and the Americans, no one else. What are we? Americans. Behind me there is the government, behind the government is NATO, behind NATO is the US. You can't fight us, we are Americans."
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:28 trinque: I criticize "USG" as a category; it barely defines anything
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform his observation is well grounded though. the maximum that can be extracted from victim is necessarily below the total damage the bug inflicts. which is why it's always better to sell to enemy of victim. which is why market is complex.
mircea_popescu: "how much would you pay me for information that prevents destruction of $1mn worth of materiel ?" us army : "3% of total damage as evaluated by us" ru army, in general "150% of maximal damage" and on the day before invasion, up to 1mn% of same.
mircea_popescu: time sensitive, context sensitive, for which reasons very much not a market.
mircea_popescu: anti-integrable.
asciilifeform: not to mention that 'save you from doom' entails uncertainty and ergo lemon market, whereas 'pay me to kill x' is immediately evaluatable
mircea_popescu: anyway - i wonder at what point of turning the vice around its ballsac, usg finally relents, admits that it is way the fuck cheaper and therefore better to be friends with the smart people, throws idiots to the dogs. so we get license to capture humanities majors from horseback on campus, and they get the default immunity they like to pretend they currently have.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. quite. different path to same problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun see that capitulation as a possibility.
mircea_popescu: everything is a possibility that wasn't visible as one. the only things that never happen are the perceived alternatives.
mircea_popescu: which is why in highschool interest tv dramas, the 2nd choice never gets laid. it's either the main or the dark horse.
asciilifeform: the whole statist orchestra depends on plugging whatever possible exits, at all cost
mircea_popescu: not really, no.
trinque: and scientology couldn't possibly infiltrate and seize tax exempt status.
mircea_popescu: can just as well exist as "fascist" version of socialism.
trinque: the "government" isn't a thing independent of the people in it, which should be obvious
trinque: but seems to always be considered as leviathan
trinque: and trump couldn't possibly "republican" and so on
mircea_popescu: and as its survival is actually its only paramount value (recall george costanza in the fire scene ? "without leaders we'd all be lost! i had to survive" - life as supreme value perversely translates to, perpetuation of socialism state at expense of all life), it WILL at some point spontaneously recrystalize from "modern democracy" socialism to national socialism.
mircea_popescu: not a question of if, even. a question of how much stress required before it pops.
mircea_popescu: and similarly re concentration camps. whenever you have socialism in power, you eventually DO get the camps. this isn't open to discussion.
asciilifeform: y'know, warehousing folks prior to gassing is optional
asciilifeform: can gas in real time.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the camps are a different thing.
mircea_popescu: i wish to buy caged "modern feminist" by the pound. eventually, usg WILL sell this product to me.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnfbhdELQLA << modern democracy socialism (bald, with glasses) reaches recrystalization point, becomes national socialsm spontaneously.
asciilifeform: lel, by pound? mircea_popescu has some hungry pirannhas or wat.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe compost, maybe the lu zhi treatment...
asciilifeform: 'human pig' ?
mircea_popescu: $google concubine qi
deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consort_Qi << Consort Qi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-demonization-of-empress-wu-20743091/ << The Demonization of Empress Wu | History | Smithsonian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_L%C3%BC_Zhi << Empress Lü Zhi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: aha - human pig
mircea_popescu: gotta spend the bitcoin wealth on something. the worthy is always a good choice.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503421 << they omitted publishing this. or, if memory serves, the actual factors ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:55 asciilifeform: speaking of which, i'd still like to know where bock got all of those pubkeys that aren't in sks.
mircea_popescu: occam proposes "they were just made up". wanted to make his list look "complete" thus it had to be longer ; failed to realise phuctor is AN ACTUAL THING rather than the drawing of a thing, and so will find some more still.
mircea_popescu: so moved on to phase 2 of the usg.asset cycle, where he's now dormant and periodically fed contribution vomit.
phf: "Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work (fusion.net)"
phf: "Why Did American Cats Get Blamed for So Many Divorces? (atlasobscura.com)"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 20:43 asciilifeform: not even every purse.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503461 << i use a number of persons. works way the fuck better than any electronic gizmo ever invented.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 20:47 phf: i use a psion as an organizer, and i still can't get used to the fact that it looks ~good~ in direct sunlight. like it's some amazing novel technology
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why the fuck anyone would use the toy shits. if your affairs CAN be organized by the machine, you don't have affairs complex enough to require outside help. stop wasting your time with the thing and work teh noggin.
phf: i have hard time keeping track of when i have various appointments, so i use an external "agenda" app. i'd be as well served by a paper calendar
mircea_popescu: or else by a hardcore "if i can't remember you, we have no meeting"
mircea_popescu: "wear a funny hat next time"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess it's funny to the outside observer, but here's me doing a complete reversal re the book discussion. there really isn't any way to make the 2cm thick, a6 agenda fit in silicon.
mircea_popescu: that thing is a thing.
mircea_popescu: if you're young / poor / just starting out, you need the paper thing. if you're large enough, the next step is, assistant(s). there's just no way little pocket beeper figures in this line that my mind groks.
mircea_popescu: about the only argument would be "well, that stuff is dangerous, and electronic version can have a proper unbreakable lock put on it". this'd weigh a lot more if YOU COULD ACTUALLY GET CRYPTO ONES!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503490 << we see no such thing. she's (by which we mean, the system people that manhandled her into running for them) entirely desperate, going to lose spectacularly in november, willing to try literally everything. if i could show her 1mn trump votes in half dozen states, she'd write numbers on her tits for us here.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 20:57 pete_dushenski: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/one-striking-chart-shows-why-pharma-companies-are-fighting-legal-marijuana/ << in which we see that clitler hates big pharma, wants to bring back us agro via weed.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 21:03 asciilifeform: i'ma guess it now services usg (e.g., 'general dynamics' army laptops) solely.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503511 << heh, interesting bet turns out.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 21:09 pete_dushenski: https://bitbet.us/bet/1230/turkey-land-area-to-shrink-in-2016/ << also.
phf: mircea_popescu: but psion has a handy busy view http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/psion/busyview/busyview1.jpg :)
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying its a bad thing-that-it-is. just... you know the item i'm talking about ?
mircea_popescu: you gotta, it was in ru in the 90s just as well as in ro and so on.
phf: is it one of those with the "leather" outside and the rings?
mircea_popescu: rings - optional. leather, mandatory.
mircea_popescu: a-page-a-day sort of items ; you can take all sorts of not-readily-verbalizable notes in there. it's essentially the year's doodle collection, i have no idea how you'd alphabetize that.
phf: yeah, those were actually handy. i used to keep agenda in a "moleskine" year planner, but those get ratty 6 months in
mircea_popescu has had to arbiter more disputes that entirely hinged on a quickly scrawled set of three lines with dots on them than he cares to remember.
mircea_popescu: thanks fucking god gpg doesn't clearsign such nonsense.
phf: this position is at odds with your "no notes unless i can grep through them" somewhere in the logs. i don't know if i would necessarily care to grep through an agenda, but i somehow have more useful notes on paper, than i have on machine, despite trying very hard to computerize
mircea_popescu: it's a separation of jobs thing. i fail to mentally divorce the point of "organizer" from entirely unverbalized, doodlery. getting an "organizer" is not, to my mind, unlike getting a cock holder made out of lego bricks.
mircea_popescu: dude... wet, soft, fleshy things go in there. lego bricks are for something else.
mircea_popescu: granted this may just as well be me being patently insane.
mircea_popescu: one should not try to wear another's insanity.
phf: fwiw it's not any more insane than carrying a psion 5mx around
mircea_popescu: phf there's a very substantial difference between THESE notes, ie, business planning and whatever they are, daily minutia ; and the notes there contemplated, which are subject of science, and entirely useless if not verbalized.
mircea_popescu: you may call both notes, but they're entirely unrelated items. i want excellent records of any experiment i ever run ; but not of any flirting.
phf: hmm
mircea_popescu: not that i'd ever or have ever typed on anything but a proper fucking desktop keyboard. even the laptop is annoying to me because off spacing.
phf: it also ties into your point that one must keep a blog
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503538 << long gone are the days of germany being any sort of Preußen.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 21:57 pete_dushenski: long gone are the days of von moltke and the close ties between prussia and the ottomans eh
phf: sometimes i feel, or rather i know, that i "learned" all these time saving techniques before i had time to save, and now i must unlearn them, because they ended up wasting a lot of time
mircea_popescu: today it's more a sort of metastasized south tirol / bulgaria. whatever-her-name german chick fine representative of the eastern values and mentalities prevalent.
mircea_popescu: phf i would expect this is a fair assessment.
mircea_popescu: nothing's overdone by "civilised" folk more than "preparing" youth for "life". it does get nuts in spots.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503543 << note that assad survived in a much smaller country with a much weaker record. erdogan literally MADE turkey. it's hard to explain to outsiders, but let's just say under his rule turkey changed from being ~pennsylvania to ~texas.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 22:03 shinohai: Erogdan "I'm still in charge folks, I can tweet!"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503547 << o look, official mouthpiece now talking of "the dao's demise" ? aww, they seem to have forgotten some parts. again.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 22:18 shinohai: http://archive.is/GgzK6 <<< dao 2.0 I guess will be engineered by *surprise!* a startup
mircea_popescu: what, this "demise" "just happened" ?
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503490 << indeed. the whole "pledge to de-schedule" thing is meaningless, as well. Even if happened, it would have ~0 effect on the legal status of the stuff.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 20:57 pete_dushenski: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/one-striking-chart-shows-why-pharma-companies-are-fighting-legal-marijuana/ << in which we see that clitler hates big pharma, wants to bring back us agro via weed.
lobbes: oops wrong link
lobbes: same thread. close enough
shinohai: Steem took a nosedive since news of hackz, down -14.96 %
shinohai: Buttrex is having a field day no doubt.
mircea_popescu: which is that one ?
shinohai: Steem is the "get paid to reddit" coin
mircea_popescu: what happened to the previous incarnation of this scam - perpetuated by conde nast itself ?
mircea_popescu: "reddit notes" ?
shinohai imagines Ryan X Charles going nuclear because idea stolen
mircea_popescu: don't tell me it "Changed the world" for a few seasons only to quietly and permanently go away
mircea_popescu: just like colored coins, ripple, ethereum, etcetereum
mircea_popescu: lobbes the hipsters are supposed to go "well she's trying so nobody should criticize zer"
shinohai: But steem is different! What people say has value! Something, blockchains.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, is clinton female ?
mircea_popescu: "The Solution To No Problems Back in 2011, when I ran AnonNews.org, I had to cope with frequent DDoS attacks - not all that surprising, given that it was a very popular news site and community for Anonymous, which was seeing the peak of its media coverage at the time. In 2011, however, it was pretty much impossible to get working DDoS mitigation for less than $100 a month, and that was simply not a budget I had to spend on it
mircea_popescu completely loses interest.
mircea_popescu: seriously, $100 is not "a budget". don't be poor.
mats: brutal
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-16#1503716 <<< heh I read this, guy goes from bashing ClodFlare to recommending LetEncrypt in record time.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-16 00:23 mircea_popescu: "The Solution To No Problems Back in 2011, when I ran AnonNews.org, I had to cope with frequent DDoS attacks - not all that surprising, given that it was a very popular news site and community for Anonymous, which was seeing the peak of its media coverage at the time. In 2011, however, it was pretty much impossible to get working DDoS mitigation for less than $100 a month, and that was simply not a budget I had to spend on it
mircea_popescu: not that cloudflare is anything but ridoinculous steaming shitpile.
shinohai: Hence my intentional misspelling of cloud to clod
mircea_popescu: i missed that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform & other interested parties : turkish usg nonsense firmly quashed, screenshot "mainstream" news sites if you wanna lulz art them later.
mircea_popescu: will be deleting the "news reports" no doubt in the coming hours.
phf: well, clinton was first "black" present, clitler is going to be first "female" president
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: waiwut
asciilifeform: which nonsense
asciilifeform: which news
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503640 << published factors, but not where the fuck he got the pubkeys
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 23:15 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503421 << they omitted publishing this. or, if memory serves, the actual factors ?
asciilifeform: claimed sks.
asciilifeform: but only posted the moduli, and none of the other data
phf: it just needs to look sufficiently authoritative and complicated so reader is both reassured and doesn't want to perform due diligence
asciilifeform: thing wasn't even pushed that hard.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503681 << i went with ben_vulpes and chetty and fed these parrots.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 23:47 mircea_popescu: and in unrelated news, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ba-17-5.jpg
asciilifeform: i still have nfi which, precisely, parrot, these are.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503652 << i use, for the most part, my head. but my schedule is not very complicated.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 23:26 mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why the fuck anyone would use the toy shits. if your affairs CAN be organized by the machine, you don't have affairs complex enough to require outside help. stop wasting your time with the thing and work teh noggin.
asciilifeform: my interest in '90s pocket gadgets has nothing to do with calendars.
asciilifeform: and everything to do with reading b00kz
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503686 << early '90s laptops had almost-civilized keyboards
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 23:51 mircea_popescu: not that i'd ever or have ever typed on anything but a proper fucking desktop keyboard. even the laptop is annoying to me because off spacing.
asciilifeform: at least geometrically speaking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform turkish "coup"
phf: i particularly dig ibm's butterfly keyboard
asciilifeform: phf: shame it only came with 486
mircea_popescu: phf has it really.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what, hoax ?
mircea_popescu: hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) definitely hoax. turkish "coup", not hoax - major usg.dos success. as far as those go these days.
phf: enough for doom and serial terminal :)
mircea_popescu: call it "we got rid of assad" v2.0 with block chain technologies.
asciilifeform: latest word is, they blew up tr parliament ?
asciilifeform: or sumthing.
mircea_popescu: heh nah.
mircea_popescu: last word is, turkey kinda collectively shrugged.
mircea_popescu: anglo derps keep pushing their usual "the embattled president" and "the military/{insert collective nouns}" etc.
asciilifeform: why would usg wish to dethrone erdogan ? did he threaten to leave nato, or wat
mircea_popescu: he made peace with putin ~3 days ago.
asciilifeform slept through this.
mircea_popescu: this is what hillary & friends at state perceived as their "nuclear option".
mircea_popescu: it's ridoinculously fizzlefull.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform had an agreement over closing nato out of black sea sometime tues.
asciilifeform: l0l! incl ro ?
mircea_popescu: quite possibly.
mircea_popescu: constanta is no match for ru ports ; and turkey holds the straits. strategically the position of nato in black sea is much worse than its generally tenuous standing on land in europe.
mircea_popescu: anyway. romania will probably swing. ~nobody that i heard from likes the westerners anymoar.
asciilifeform: lel, who's the old fella in mircea_popescu's avatar pic
asciilifeform: or is this some other mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: 'not shakespeare, but man of the same name!' (tm) (r)
mats: hue
mircea_popescu: random dude.
mircea_popescu: it ~is~ a pretty common name, after all.
mircea_popescu: basically, old people being active on the internets.
mircea_popescu: count the aol.com s, the yahoo.com s and be amazed.
mircea_popescu: Cepaliga@CkickNet.ro << that, for instance, is misspelled (clicknet.ro). leaving aside the FUCKING CAPITALIZATION - someone typed that shit by hand. off, no doubt, paper.
phf: perhaps from their a6 agenda
mircea_popescu: aceste cuvinte care ne doare.
phf: hehe
mircea_popescu: (romanian version of canard enchaine, immensely popular in the 90s, so much so that everyone who was anyone read each and every edition, had a permanent column by that name, approx "these words which do hurt us" in broken romanian.)
mircea_popescu: did ru space have something like this ?
phf: in a sense that it's a catch phrase from media that everyone is familiar with, yes, but i'm blanking on print media, i was not sufficiently someone back then
asciilifeform: my archaeological work turned up no such thing.
phf: i feel like that's more of a su thing, 90s in russia were handheld camera times, so it was more likely someone will start own tv station or try and get a spot on a fringe one like 2x2
mircea_popescu: heh. this was an epic newspaper. perhaps the only actually good newspaper i ever personally witnessed. live, functional, the genuine article.
mircea_popescu: lemme fish out perhaps their glory moment
phf: only thing that comes to mind is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_eXile, i still have a couple of print editions on shelves somewhere
mircea_popescu: all image hits ARE FROM TRILEMA
mircea_popescu: god help us.
mircea_popescu: what is even the fucking point jesus
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/indescriptibila-academie-catafailencu/#comment-53513 << ran "O sarma sa taiem ; foame-i lu bitu' Ion" ie, let's cut a sarmali (trad ro dish for various events), uncle Ion [iliescu, the ducks from trucks president] is hungry. it is entirely homophonous with "aux armes citoyens, formez vos bataillons". the thing was for 14th of july.
mircea_popescu: people were laughing on the street. i still recall the day.
phf: cheeky
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