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mircea_popescu: and i think i was a lot more verbose back then, too.
mircea_popescu: possibly higher snr tho, i guess.
deedbot: [Qntra] First Anniversary of BIP 66 Clusterfuck - http://qntra.net/2016/07/first-anniversary-of-bip-66-clusterfuck/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo good!
mircea_popescu: " revealed to much lulz that many miners were using a simplified form of verification when they were selecting blocks to build off of which lead to splits when it turned out "soft" forks aren't so soft." << " revealed that many miners were using simplified (and dysfunctional) chain verification, to abundant lols and chain splits. Turns out "soft" forks aren't all that soft!" ?
mircea_popescu: which led to*\
BingoBoingo: ty fxd
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495490 << I'm trying to blog everyday. It's hard, I'm not a writer by trade, although people keep cheering me on, so for the readers out there thanks for that.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:19 mircea_popescu: lol thestringpuller been a busy little blogger lately has he
mircea_popescu: good for you.
thestringpuller: it's kept me from davout follow up interview tho :(
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 419208 | Current Difficulty: 2.0945315859538098E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 419327 | Next Difficulty In: 119 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 41 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1496653 << one major advantage of this, by the way, is that mp-wp comment count (references for eg in places like http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#comment-117921 < ) is actually accurate, minus the 15k or so sample spam pieces there's >100k human comments on trilema ; akismet-based popular blogs, that on occasion reach six figures like trilema, also count every single spam piece they ever
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 02:07 mircea_popescu: phf there's two main points of the split between mp-wp and automattic-wp. one is that i shot the akismet idiocy in the head (mp-wp antispam system works way the fuck better, and doesn't you know, run arbitrary code from the automattic equivalent of disqus, shambling abominable horror of untold proportions).
mircea_popescu: receive in that total, meaning that out of 100k they rarely actually published as many as 1k comments. the rest's just spam.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1496683 << i'm not even sure that's true, ftr. php is actually a fine language FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. hypertext preprocessor ffs! it's not even a language, as such! just a preprocessor, like an early scripting language.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 02:23 ben_vulpes: #trilema goes slummin
mircea_popescu: its crowning achievement is, no doubt, the blog. this is what php exists to do, blog software. not, ironically, "forum" (ie, web-replacement bbs) software, which is what it's mostly used to do.
mircea_popescu: that requires users and sessions, neither of which is php capable to handle at all. but notice that blogs DO NOT require users, nor do they need sessions. nor, for that matter, cookies.
mircea_popescu: yet again there was a right thing to do (network of blogs) and a fucktardedly wrong thing to do (www-"forum") and the shithead community chose to do the wrong one. for obvious social reasons, it's way the fuck harder to write a blog than to "participate" in a "consensus".
mircea_popescu: everywhere you turn with this already. a sickening display.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1496215 << incidentally shinohai i dunno if you're looking to go into the coding side of things, but if so this may be just the thing for you ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 19:40 mircea_popescu: also - if anyone feels like undertaking maintenance for this, on like a V tree and everything, i wouldn't be at all against.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: you need someone to maintain a vanilla wp setup?
mircea_popescu: more like, to fix wp into perfection.
shinohai: To me that would mean stripping as much crud as humanly possible lol.
mircea_popescu: and make it v'd. anyway, more than willing to mentor you along, you wouldn't be stepping into abyss.
shinohai: Sounds good to me, is that tar.gz mentioned in link still available? I will pull it down when I get back from town this afternoon.
mircea_popescu: aha a sec.
shinohai: Actually I can d/l now while having tea
mircea_popescu: uling a sec.
shinohai: thx!
mircea_popescu: step 0 would be to apply phf's patches and get it up. step 1 would be to get everything (not the theme, everything else) into one single file, and have it still work.
mircea_popescu: that'll make the crud obvious and simplify the task of cleannup.
mircea_popescu: once you get that you genesis it as a V tree, and then patching can begin.
mircea_popescu: make sense ?
shinohai: Yeah makes sense, sounds like a plan.
shinohai: Encrypted with wrong gpg key tho mircea_popescu
shinohai: That's my old cruddy key
mircea_popescu: $key shinohai
shinohai: BingoBoingo: I probably get 4-5 nasty DM's a day on twitter calling me the same thing xD
BingoBoingo: Oh, I don't get those, but also rarely visit twatter anymoar
shinohai: I guess I should an hero because I believe scarcity in blocks is good.
mircea_popescu: lulziest about this block thing is the derpy miners arguing against their interest on the basis of social media gargle.
shinohai: I have a script that auto posts Qntra stories, and occasionally use twitter to troll. But I have less and less time for that anymore.
shinohai: And that one worked fine mircea_popescu thx
shinohai: So if I understand correctly, you want a single page, e.g. wordpress.php that does almost everything.
mircea_popescu: everything except the theme stuff. that should be in theme.php
mircea_popescu: (best import phf's basic theme so you can see shit works)
shinohai: reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4r43ps/chinas_major_influence_over_bitcoin/d4yjy7t <<< Butterin "I can't fix Ethereum but this is how I would fix segwit"
mircea_popescu: lmao. idiot.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" usg tool and "ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort, ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
mircea_popescu: too bad the bad bitcoin wolf fucked it all up for them.
mircea_popescu: poor innocent darlings.
mircea_popescu: in other cvasi-lulz, ro whore, ex wife & baby's momma of ro footballer, discussing their split-up : "you can't make a whore into a housewife ; nor an athlete into a respectable man"
shinohai: All whores must be kept on leash.
mircea_popescu: the young ones, i guess. but in principle, the definition of a whore is exactly that : woman that's fine naked.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like alf's dream, can parachute her with no resources on island, will be fine.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu now that i think about it, there was another reboot other than the scheduled one. and it was outlined in the l0gz. so not quite 3m.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 12:45 mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" usg tool and "ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort, ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
asciilifeform: ahahahaha this is gold:
asciilifeform: buterin: 'Remove the signature from a transaction (ie. set the field to the empty string) before computing its hash for the purposes of future transactions consuming that UTXO [alternatively, I like the idea of adding new OP_CHECKSIG-like opcodes that do this so that this new transaction type can be made backward-compatible]'
mircea_popescu: riiight along
mircea_popescu: anyway, swan's song. they know he's exposed ; gave up and are burning the asset.
mircea_popescu: 50-50 odds it's even the physical buterin, the guy with the misshapen skull, actually writing the item.
asciilifeform: dunno that the folks at the printolade shop got the memo yet tho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you mean poloniex, it's been in wash trading mode for a week +
mircea_popescu: it's "going down" in the hopes of capturing the occasional dizzy derp. not going too well.
asciilifeform: sad mousetrap, stale cheese
mircea_popescu: ~nobody outside of mit & friends holds any tokens.
asciilifeform: lel the linked nyt article is actually a massive ad for 'chainalysis', umpteenth attempt at taintatron
mircea_popescu: nicely mirroring the situation a year+ ago, when i couldn't find any owners to borrow from for the life of me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform brontosaurus gotta graze. can has hay ? no ? can has grass ? no ? then can has hay ? no ? then can has grass ? no ? how about lettuce ? fern ? hay ? grass ? lettuce ?
asciilifeform: '...after her son’s unsolved murder... “Please accept our condolences on your loss,” a letter from that agency, the Higher Education Student Assistance Authority, said. “After careful consideration of the information you provided, the authority has determined that your request does not meet the threshold for loan forgiveness. Monthly bill statements will continue to be sent to you.”'
mircea_popescu: incidentally, re teh state of the bitcoin - lettuce not allow all the countless things we're doing distract. even if the summer of forks was defeated politically, so we blessfully didn't have to fight the battle on the technological field, mod6 still needs all the help he can get.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not remarkable, woman cosigned on a loan. this is the point of cosignature.
asciilifeform: betcha the cow had nfi
asciilifeform: though, ianal, does death == default in usa ?
mircea_popescu: how would it ?
asciilifeform: for purposes of cosigning
mircea_popescu: default for the purposes of cosigning means the cosigner pays.
mircea_popescu: that's what a guarantoor does : "give x this much, and if he won't pay, i will". it's an ancient institution, the piece of shakespeare i butchered revolves around it.
asciilifeform: ok so 'if he won't pay'
asciilifeform: (died, martians abducted, lost at sea, etc)
mircea_popescu: well he ain't payin', is he now.
asciilifeform: then makes sense.
mircea_popescu: yeah. i mean sure, it's cowsy interest "human piece" etc.
mircea_popescu: but as far as any possibility of working anything is concerned, there's nothing remarkable here. "i made my bed on highway, got run over".
asciilifeform: appears to be a recurring theme in 'hyoooman interest' pieces from the volkischer beobachter
mircea_popescu: "let's break things for stupid people". recurring theme of "modern democracy" altogether ; so much so it's obviously at the core of the stupidity involved.
asciilifeform: civilizations that outlive their will to live, undergo this autolysis
mircea_popescu: anyway, sane people, which is to say business people, take insurance in such a deal. whether the principal is a dumb kid or a warehouse, you insure against it's destruction specifically so you don'tend up in this "guarantor pays through no fault".
asciilifeform: where 'why do we need baths? let's take apart for bricks'
mircea_popescu: she was more than likely offered life insurance for the kid, declined it to save 25 bux a month or w/e
mircea_popescu: that part, of course, needn't be mentioned, because "who cares more about sanity than '''people themselves''' is the bad thing mkay!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, to bridge this to finance : this is the fundamental difference between shares and bonds. a bond is owed on irrespective of how the business does ; shares only fraction of what the business did.
mircea_popescu: the woman is trying to convert bondholders on a lossy entreprise into shareholders, because of course she would.
asciilifeform: well not the muppet per se
mircea_popescu: reason scamcoins / forum scams always go the same way is, basically, this woman. stupid people are all stupid the same.
asciilifeform: the muppetteer.
asciilifeform: who did the crud lending in the first place
mircea_popescu: who's who and how you reason in this model ?
mircea_popescu: hey, business is business. the fool's never on the tender side of any bargain.
asciilifeform: the folks who carried on the college racket, if the godz gave them half a brain, know that the money ain't coming back
mircea_popescu: (business closes as acceptance of tender - so between a tenderer and an acceptor)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is not legitimately their concern in capitalismus.
asciilifeform: it is being made 'illigitimately' their concern.
mircea_popescu: notrly, taxpayer bails them out!
asciilifeform: well yes.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the whole thing's dead, we're debating which dead cell's at fault in the dead tissue.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. necrosis ? korea ?
asciilifeform: my understanding is that the details of who precisely will be bailed out, and who - haircut - are being worked.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, once bailing begins, the details are forever being worked until everyone is dead.
mircea_popescu: hence the end of my three emperors story.
asciilifeform: somewhat related, the firms that broker the bmore shit houses all offer... mortgages! yes, on $10,000 house! pay fiddybux/mo forever!1111
mircea_popescu: it's actually a good deal, there.
mircea_popescu: just make sure it's not adjustable.
asciilifeform: ^ there seems to be no end of these.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't the Framedragger_ lot ~20mn keys ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cannot easily count the whole lot, ls barfs 'argument list too long'
asciilifeform: the unix way!11111111111
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1496754 << facebook ruined. they use so much PHP they invented HipHop a PHP compiler. Yes, they compile PHP code to C to make it run faster.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 10:24 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1496683 << i'm not even sure that's true, ftr. php is actually a fine language FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. hypertext preprocessor ffs! it's not even a language, as such! just a preprocessor, like an early scripting language.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: counted, 10609285 keys.
asciilifeform: $up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: dija ask mod6 for a virtual tour of the property yet?
asciilifeform: whatcha talking about gabriel_laddel
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 03:38 mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i lived in a ~hole for 20 yrs. << you can come live in my basement if you're tired of paying rent. i've even got a garden. :]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger_ do i misremember the count ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform holy shit what is wrong with this crap. who. WHO!!!! can think ls may say that.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: you really gotta read the l0gz
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ikr ?
mircea_popescu: for fuck's sake.
gabriel_laddel: oh I did, hence my asking
mircea_popescu: why not you knwo, "an unspecified specification has eggoged. please retry to abort."
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: the original 'hole' comment was about how i lived as ~hermit for long time. not about crappy flats (in which i also once lived, but no longer.)
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: if I buy you a shed like the one in timasora, and mod6 installs it on his property, will you please just go live there and save money?
asciilifeform: i dun want to live in a shed. or in some fella's basement. etc
asciilifeform: i live in a house, with windows, sunlight, locking doors, and intend to continue living in houses.
asciilifeform: this is hard concept for gabriel_laddel ?
asciilifeform: 'my truck eats too much petrol, i'ma look for a new truck' 'here have this bicycle!1111' 'but it won't carry cement' 'HAVE BICYCLE'
gabriel_laddel: $s People generally wish to be rich for all sorts of reasons and mental constructions that scarcely survive the transformative process which becoming rich entails
a111: 0 results for "People generally wish to be rich for all sorts of reasons and mental constructions that scarcely survive the transformative process which becoming rich entails", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=People%20generally%20wish%20to%20be%20rich%20for%20all%20sorts%20of%20reasons%20and%20mental%20constructions%20that%20scarcely%20survive%20the%20transformative%20process%20which%20becoming%20rich%20entails
asciilifeform: very few folks ~actually~ want to be rich. only 'not poor.'
asciilifeform: (being rich, as an ongoing concern, is something quite like hard work. as mircea_popescu describes. not all that far from mixing cement.)
mircea_popescu: honestly i can't complain. as the saying goes on shittycustomers.com, "it's easy if you know what you're doing".
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 20:36 Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah so i'll prolly end up dumping 10M ssh keys on phuctor's ass, via its web interface. i wonder if phuctor can handle parallel requests, to a point :P i won't be an asshole about it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except that it was not via www interface
asciilifeform: he send me giant tarball
mircea_popescu: ya just meant the count
asciilifeform: and it is being fed in, since.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you can live in the guest house. it's like a shed but with windows, and a kitchen, and a bathroom.
thestringpuller: but then again most people wouldn't call it a shed.....
asciilifeform: why the FUCK would i want to do any such thing.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-08 01:50 mircea_popescu: dawg, just make those cardanos so we can sell em and that's it, let some other unfortunate soul extract himself with bountee.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: how does that plug in ?
mircea_popescu: hey, wadda ya want! alf is ~still~ making his original gf from back when he was 15 a pasta dinner. he just had to go to college first, find another woman, and other details.
mircea_popescu pictures 35yo woman waiting patiently for that damned pasta for the past ~20 years
mircea_popescu: "it'd better be al fucking dente!"
gabriel_laddel: Look, I don't have your personal ledger in front of me, but wouldn't paying ZERO in rent save you a lot, even if you only do it for a year and your pet has to go live with her mother?
shinohai: After 35 years I'd wager it was as mushy as a virgin's vagina after a night in the mircea_popescu dungeon.
asciilifeform: i don't eat charity, gabriel_laddel.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: sorry, what?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not charity when between friends!
asciilifeform: i don't ride bikes, live in cockroach flats, or do any of the 1,001 related young cocklet things
mircea_popescu: shinohai virgins usually do poorly the first time in the dungeon. naive cunt petrifies readily.
asciilifeform: this was gone over, in agonizing detail, in the thread with ben_vulpes's software co.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how are you going to make a boyfriend with that sort of attitude ?!
mircea_popescu: don't mind me, this convo reminded me of spirited not-yet-lawyeress many years ago. she, similarly, "i don't want your charity!" "fine, take your clothes off then and you'll have earned it."
mircea_popescu: $up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: you still don't have a key ?!
mircea_popescu: $gettrust deedbot gabriel_laddel
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 2 connections.
gabriel_laddel: nah, homeless atm and it is a bit of a pain to auth
asciilifeform: yeah what happened to his key
asciilifeform: homeless?!
mircea_popescu: aqhahaha wait, what ?
mircea_popescu: why don';t you live in your garden then ?!
gabriel_laddel: because wtf, it isn't that difficult and somehow I manage to be fed + sleep indoors shave and whatnont?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: interested in baltimore ?
mircea_popescu hadn't even seen the "and pet has to live with mother" part. EPIC.
gabriel_laddel is currently shopping around for a USB drive that will hold all the masamune sources, as the current one is too small
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: not even slightly
mircea_popescu: in fairness, i sometimes do this, except never send pet to live with HER mother. i send her to live with the more sane female cousins of mine, learn the ropes of female sanity.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: it's mod6's garden, and not a garden, a basement
gabriel_laddel: and alf has to pay exactly nothing
mircea_popescu: and next year mod6 could come to alf's garden/basement.
gabriel_laddel: then it wouldn't be charity. magic
mircea_popescu: they could have like an itinerant seminar of luby transforms, functional analysis and convexity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i could teach you php and you could make rent money on fiverr in no time.
mircea_popescu: will need to talk to phf for css though, i never went to that class.
mircea_popescu: in other nuts, someone should totally write a universal program improver, which takes any legal code, unrolls all for loops and reimplements them as if clauses ; and unrolls all if clauses and reimplements them as for loops.
mircea_popescu: sort of "fuck you, workplace" website.
deedbot: [Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), June 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-june-2016-statement/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l!
asciilifeform: there are 'obfuscators' for various langs etc. but afaik nothing quite so monstrous.
asciilifeform: i predict that it would be a smash hit tho.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: whatcha got against dear old baltimoralalabad ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Can't stand orcs.
asciilifeform: ah i wondered if maybe it was the rubble, or the godforsaken remoteness from anything worthwhile
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: but i did! determine! experimentally!111 that you dun have to be black to walk around bmore
gabriel_laddel: Those are not really separable.
asciilifeform: i was there, even took pet, nobody fired
gabriel_laddel: you can walk around the hood all you want while white
gabriel_laddel: but must be willing to put up with having your stuff taken from time to time / "the knockout game"
asciilifeform: the locals have own rhythm of life, mostly ignore martians; cars stop in the middle of streets, boys run out with 'cargo', deliver, run back; etc
asciilifeform: i suppose if living there long enough, can catch a bullet, or jailed for bagging a protected species
asciilifeform: but yes, my observations were of the amateur zoologist's, 'the bears did not bother me' sort.
asciilifeform: l0l i also missed the 'mother' thing
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel needs to have a stern talk with his dope supplier
asciilifeform: who, i suspect, is skimping on recrystallization/purification.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, it's necessarily machine-doable, and not even that hard. kinda low hanging fruit of evil.
mircea_popescu: and yeah, imagine if applied on item 100k loc long.
mircea_popescu: might make decent tshirt printage.
asciilifeform: obfuscated c contest.
mircea_popescu: more like omfg i can't take my eyes off your shirt.
mircea_popescu: "she walks into a room and all anyone can think about is "...really ?!?!?!""
asciilifeform: if (999999999999999) break;
asciilifeform: more humanly, if (x == 999999999999999)
asciilifeform: this reminds me of another 'idea' of mine
asciilifeform: 'anti-lint'
asciilifeform: introduces off-by-ones, use-after-frees, etc. joys.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i was there, even took pet, nobody fired << lmao!
mircea_popescu: the notions people get from reddit/msm/etc.
mircea_popescu: 40 deaths/100k per year. who the fuck's gonna waste a bullet on you specifically.
asciilifeform: well to be fair not so many folks are standing in line to be 41st
mircea_popescu: what, it's a carnival booth ?
asciilifeform: but nobody even so much as spat in my face.
mircea_popescu: wtf, it's black not gypsy ghetto.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 15:30 asciilifeform: l0l i also missed the 'mother' thing
asciilifeform: but judging by what the locals (of all colours) were doing with their time, i cannot properly apprehend the mental zone they live in, and would need some strong dope to even visit it
asciilifeform: like that old man who rolled electric wheelchair up, down, up, down, the street, swinging his hat
phf: he was just having fun, man
asciilifeform: or the regiment of black dudes standing in a circle, doing ~nothing, for hours
mircea_popescu: what, where do you expect carl force iv ends up ?
mircea_popescu: they were producing rap album. neeext.
phf: asciilifeform: they are having their own trilema, of the appropriate level
asciilifeform: phf: must be !
mircea_popescu: anyone follow along the culture clash in that last article comments section ?
asciilifeform: brain-melting.
mircea_popescu: at some point it gets to where i don't even.
asciilifeform: i couldn't even begin to even.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, you put the prikoke in there ?
asciilifeform: just tuned in.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe the solution is to odd.
asciilifeform: incidentally i distinctly recall a ru ver of prikoke
asciilifeform: but unable to turn it up in the l0gz
mircea_popescu: neway, it's like sewing on old, sunbaked rag. the more you patch, the more it breaks.
mircea_popescu: very reminescent of both the actual open sore repositories themselves, as well as that "nothing happener, sir" joke.
mircea_popescu: you know it ?
mircea_popescu: his lordship is called to london on urgent business ; leaves country house in hands of his chamberlain
mircea_popescu: the next day calls, "is everything ok ? " "certainly sir, everything is in order" "so nothing happened ?" "well, sir, your little black dog. he died."
mircea_popescu: "fifi ?! HOW ?"
mircea_popescu: your triple crown purebreed stomped it down
mircea_popescu: why was the horse running around ?
mircea_popescu: we had to let the horses go when the roof was about to fall
mircea_popescu: the roof to the stables ?! what ?
mircea_popescu: yes, it caught fire from the house
mircea_popescu: the house burned down ?!
mircea_popescu: apparently a maid that was in the wake got horny as it often happens to young women at old people's funerals, while being vigurously used from behind turned over candlestick
mircea_popescu: funeral ? what funeral ?
mircea_popescu: that sorta thing.
asciilifeform: ( i bet mircea_popescu knows the original fr version )
mircea_popescu: guy comes with just a small comment, turns out doesn't distinguish clauses, has no definitions and etc.
asciilifeform: ^ it! ^
mircea_popescu: very popular in ro. dja recall the hruscov mis en scene ?
asciilifeform: it is in the l0gz i think
asciilifeform: moscopol ?
asciilifeform: then yes.
mircea_popescu: it's a modern classic, very well constructed in counterpoint and a well fitted denouement
mircea_popescu: musically pseaking.
asciilifeform: i bet there is even chinese version somewhere.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; the text is certainly ancient.
asciilifeform: phf: 3133333333333337 macos 9 theme l0l
phf: :D
asciilifeform quite fond of it.
ben_vulpes: aha that's just grand
ben_vulpes: now those were some widgets.
ben_vulpes: does anyone remember the sound effects?!
asciilifeform still runs emulator on occasion
ben_vulpes: what fer
asciilifeform: various.
phf: the theme was maid on mac os 9. took some screenshots, photoshoped it to size of kubrick's elements (header, vertically repeated background, footer), s/jpg/png/ in right places
asciilifeform: i'ma msdos, prolly.
asciilifeform: when i get a chance.
phf: *made
phf: morning coffee problem
ben_vulpes: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/07/the-secret-startup-saved-healthcare-gov-the-worst-website-in-america/397784/?single_page=true << http://www.govtech.com/civic/IT-Showdown-Tech-Giants-Face-Off-Against-18F.html << today on silly-con valley fanboi newzfeed: "obab saved software!" vs "corporations that actually own procurement in usg begin to unravel 'disruptions' to government software
ben_vulpes: procurement"
ben_vulpes: eg "how dare a few kids try to stick a pinwheel in our jetstream"
danielpbarron: !up idontgetit
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.
danielpbarron: $up idontgetit
deedbot: idontgetit voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497063 <<< thx phf! Just got home, will review
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 16:42 phf: shinohai: i updated my patch http://107.170.141.103/2016/wp-content-for-a/#update2
phf: shinohai: if you unpack mp's tarball, unpack wp-content into it, apply the patch, you should end up with a working instance
shinohai: Ah ok cool. Is db required?
phf: yeah, it requires LAMP
phf: *obamtu
shinohai: Sweet, coincidentally I have a fresh lamp setup to test on.
mircea_popescu: davout am i wrong in suspecting you comprehend most php of anyone here ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 16:49 phf: the theme was maid on mac os 9. took some screenshots, photoshoped it to size of kubrick's elements (header, vertically repeated background, footer), s/jpg/png/ in right places
mircea_popescu: this is already winning holy shit.
mircea_popescu 's plan, if this wasn't already transparently obvious, is to convert the ball into unviersal serenissima-to-www convertor, call it serenity or whatever and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: plug a hole ben_vulpes trinque etc all felt so far.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1496952 << dude this "fix computing" project is a deadly land, worth traveling if only because it's a good death (TM) (R)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 15:05 gabriel_laddel is currently shopping around for a USB drive that will hold all the masamune sources, as the current one is too small
trinque: my old boss ended up homeless too!
mircea_popescu: wasn't anyone living close to him btw ? how about you fucking give him a thumb drive and charge it to me, i'll buy you a salad or something next we eat together.
ben_vulpes: trinque: finally?
trinque: ben_vulpes: lost home *first* then office
ben_vulpes: ho ho ho
ben_vulpes: yeah i heard that the last vestiges have finally been absorbed by something marginally profitable recently
ben_vulpes: lease expired or some such
trinque: to each his own complicated art-project / suicide I guess
trinque: gabriel_laddel: if you need a gentoo box to hack on I don't mind having such a thing on my network somewhere, provided you have a thing to get into it
ben_vulpes: art: if it's not masturbation, it's suicide!
trinque: por que no los dos?
ben_vulpes: aha, auto-erotic artsphixiation
trinque: bahaha
asciilifeform: or we could chip in to buy the fella a balticastle
asciilifeform: x86 delenda est.
asciilifeform: '...a UEFI bug that can be exploited to disable firmware write-protection... The company says the vulnerable System Management Mode software came from an upstream BIOS vendor – making it likely that other vendors getting BIOS software from the same outlet will also be vulnerable.'
asciilifeform: gotta luuuuuuv software 'write protect.'
asciilifeform: instead of, y'know, the wp leg present on EVERY FLASH ROM EVER MADE
asciilifeform: but used ~never.
shinohai: ghehehehehehe
asciilifeform: ^ i'ma guess the number of retracted dissertations, withdrawn tenures, etc. will be the usual
asciilifeform: 'Reg reader Rob has uncovered evidence that a botnet (i.e. automated computer program rather than human) is stuffing the second referendum ballot. There are 2,371 signatures from The Vatican - a place that only has a population of 1,000,” Rob notes. Also the json data shows 2735 signatures from the Antarctic and 23,694 signatures from North Korea.” A blackhat hacker from Syria claimed responsibility for the “hack” which he cl
asciilifeform: aimed he was doing in order to show “your democracies are a joke”. He also claimed to be “voting like crazy” on this petition.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497117 asciilifeform not if he weighs less than his gf.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 20:48 asciilifeform: or we could chip in to buy the fella a balticastle
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you have "a software bug" disable WRITE PROTECTION OMFG
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform love that "could". COULD upend, you see. whenever title contains a question mark, the implied question is always to be answered in the negative ; when title contains painful topic to lizard hittler, could can always be replaced by "certainly, but we'll pretend otherwise"
asciilifeform: likethat.
mircea_popescu: anyway. statistical "science" is much like chastity-belt chastity.
mircea_popescu: an accidental byproduct of the lazy minority.
asciilifeform: also love the 'bug' ( in actuality, thoroughly rotten conceptual fabric )
mircea_popescu: "The researchers used published fMRI results, and along the way they swipe the fMRI community for their “lamentable archiving and data-sharing practices” that prevent most of the discipline's body of work being re-analysed." don't wonder why.
asciilifeform: but no, bug!11111, will be 'fixed', carry on.
mircea_popescu: it's for the exact reason servers had to be broken in to get the "climate scientists'" data.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, their life, not yours or mine.
mircea_popescu has been delighting in teaching very talented girl french!
mircea_popescu: "So far more than 3.6 million people have signed up the petition on the parliament.uk website. Any petition with more than 100K votes is considered for debate in parliament, irrespective of its merits either way." << epic.
mircea_popescu: anyone want the side project of introducing a petition to discuss whether the queen should be flogged naked at the gate of westminster abbey for being a nigger jewess ?
mircea_popescu: put 100k votes on it, watch the fireworks.
asciilifeform: nuffin will happen.
asciilifeform: lizards follow rules when they feel like it.
mircea_popescu: the uk prolly not relevant enough for anyone's time, but still, there it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wouldja stop with this "lalala i have my own hallucinated alt-reality plox partake" thing ?
asciilifeform: hey nobody has to take my word for it. go, try, petition.
asciilifeform: wake me up when queen flogged.
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, it's like very weaksauce trolling / a pretty cancerous forced meme by now
asciilifeform: it is the sad reality of the wurkerz paradise where asciilifeform lives.
asciilifeform: there was similar petition to fire obummer, here, it went to /dev/null.
mircea_popescu: the problem here is that asciilifeform lives in a mostly self-created world.
mircea_popescu: well, us doesn't have a rule that congress must discuss anything.
mircea_popescu: da fuck cares whether queen gets flogged. there's much better looking, younger cunts with juicier tits lined up for the flogger, lizzie's not speshul.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, having the utterly irrelevant condo owner association meeting calling itself "the parliament" face the dilemma of either ignoring its own rule or else discussing whether queen should be flogged for being nigger jewess is exactly what a good blog article is made of.
mircea_popescu: and also a fine comment on the state and aggregate value of the airstrip one economy : all it's good for, is to provide material for a blogger's article, in this manner.
mircea_popescu: kinda sad end for the derps that irritated hitler, half a century later.
asciilifeform: do we have a man in ol' blighty?
asciilifeform: to do this deed
mircea_popescu: does it matter where located ?
asciilifeform: it might.
asciilifeform: prolly gotta rtfm
mircea_popescu: myeah. well, that's what article research is all about.
mircea_popescu: bonus points for the guy loathing self hating
mircea_popescu: hopefully he's from la.
BingoBoingo: More likely Ohio
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so basically give it another ~yearish and qntra's gonna be all that's left ?
BingoBoingo: Likely. I mean Coindesk will likely continue as the stagnant thing it is, but eventually if they stand still in the swamp long enough malaria will get them.
mircea_popescu: Dammi tempu ca ti perciu.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how did that go, "a man can live in the evereglades, where a man can hide an' never be found an' have no fear of the bayin' hound
mircea_popescu: but better keep movin' an' don't stand still - if the skeeters don't get you the gators will."
BingoBoingo: Anyways there's also Ver's thing continuing along on all the Pinoy SEO USG.MIT can afford
mircea_popescu: which looks like ~five pounds fireworks' worth.
mircea_popescu: ie, 50 bux
BingoBoingo: Eh, google doesn't hate them on the generic query "bitcoin news" because both words are in their url.
mircea_popescu: google has no fucking clue.
BingoBoingo: Of course. Came out of USG.Stanford
mircea_popescu: back when it came out it was almost tmsr-level of good.
mircea_popescu: then they went stupid.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497189 <<< or the amount of money he went apeshit over when he accidentally refunded a customer too much once.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:49 mircea_popescu: ie, 50 bux
mircea_popescu: wasn't that like 3 btc in 2014 or somesuch ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 01:07 adlai: last i checked, tmsr has an ex-salesman? or at least a blogger who blogs a lot about how to sell
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 01:07 mircea_popescu: adlai apparently they ran out of jews in washington.
pete_dushenski: in fact, you can tell there aren't many jews in alberta either. peeps be comin to me to broker / source aaaaall their shit atm.
pete_dushenski: apartments, cars, websites, bitcoins, and so on and so forth.
pete_dushenski: humourously, this is exactly what the inept local government is currently employing hundreds of mba grad mungaloids to do : "connect assets" and "bridge the social networks" something something
pete_dushenski just had his ears filled with so much such inept buzzwordery he can barely hear himself think
mats: is there an up to date guide to rolling trb on pogo's little-endian armv5?
mats: i tried to run dpb's script after reading it and it puked a small hill of errors
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497172 << you know your tumblr feed's getting spicier when you can swear you've seen mp's randostrange before
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:32 mircea_popescu: and speaking of the cancer that is killing, i give you boxxy! http://67.media.tumblr.com/54a213033482261ad155536f76c3e902/tumblr_nthdczE9Hh1upsme5o1_500.gif
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497206 << my original recipe still worx and will always work. use a recent trb tho.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 22:12 mats: is there an up to date guide to rolling trb on pogo's little-endian armv5?
mats: 'auto.sh'?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497194 << one can eat only so much idiotmoney before the radiation damage is felt
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:58 mircea_popescu: then they went stupid.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:21 asciilifeform: do we have a man in ol' blighty?
shinohai: mats: Didja get pogo running?
mats: yeah, need a bitcoind for it nao
shinohai: awesum
mats: then its off to cook off fireworks
mats: ok thanks asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: o hey, today is "make america great again" day huh ?
mircea_popescu: happy fireworks peeps.
pete_dushenski: damndest thing : i was actually whistling the star spangled banner to myself while making my 3-egger breakfast omelette, quite out of the blue, and only several hours later recalled that it was colonial 'victory' day down south
asciilifeform: lel i'm about to go and see
asciilifeform: like every year.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: last year this time i had an entire beach of canadians singing poorly but enthusiastically the same
ben_vulpes: then they decided they needed to sing 'oh canada' to make amends to themselves
pete_dushenski: did they know the words ?
pete_dushenski: maybe 80%
ben_vulpes: sadly, not really.
ben_vulpes: double-sadly, it's not a particularly stirring anthem either.
BingoBoingo: It's better with the third verse, the one PC censors keep cutting
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: archive it? the jsbomination is strong with the daily mail
BingoBoingo: Or jsut don't load the .js
ben_vulpes: no js didn't work either!
ben_vulpes: lol "their sensitivity level needs to change"
BingoBoingo: $up xcfw748
deedbot: xcfw748 voiced for 30 minutes.
xcfw748: made some updates to qntra css. album includes updated desktop, sample of current/updated mobile https://imgur.com/a/j0yFS
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] All the elements of the USSA prison-industrial complex, coming soon to a neighbourhood near you. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/07/04/all-the-elements-of-the-ussa-prison-industrial-complex-coming-soon-to-a-neighbourhood-near-you/
pete_dushenski: with that, it's off to go check out houses
BingoBoingo: xcfw748: Not bad, but no compelling benefit either. Someone else here did express interest in themes, so Matbe hang around an they'll show up?
xcfw748: BingoBoingo thanks. since the work is already done, it couldn't hurt to drop it in and get a free facelift.
xcfw748: also have work already, not looking to take on projects, just interested in tidying up qntra since i read it fairly often
BingoBoingo: Well, I don't know you well enough to run your code, which is obstacles
xcfw748: bah, css is harmless
BingoBoingo: But is browser harmless?
xcfw748: i certainly don't know enough to answer that, but i could paste the css somewhere for you if you'd like to check it out
BingoBoingo: couldn't hurt
BingoBoingo: Anyways I think css wanter hinted at compennsation, but I am not certain
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497253 <<< False, I can use css to do a pastejacking attack.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 23:34 xcfw748: bah, css is harmless
xcfw748: there were also some very minor updates to html http://pastebin.com/9m49WK6Y
xcfw748: addition of some classnames on elements, removing the table in the header in favor of css positioning
mats: asciilifeform: this looks like its for pogo's os, i'm looking for instructions re: a deterministic build process for armv5 you refer to on the ml
mats: er, for building trb.
mats: crossdev makes me sad
asciilifeform: mats: crossdev is how it goes
asciilifeform: or were you thinking of building ~on~ pogo
asciilifeform: ^ lunacy
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497263 << which is. why . NO net on build boxes!!! mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: for srs.
asciilifeform: $s portatronic
a111: 49 results for "portatronic", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=portatronic
asciilifeform: mats: ^^
asciilifeform: but you needs the os, yes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497235 << and yet he STILL doesn't want to lose weight.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell xcfw748 consider making a proper theme for the wp shinohai's cooking, that'd be actually useful. also consider not doing this hit and run thing.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: ^ lo
shinohai: Looks like I should have a clean start to a suitable server to experiment with wp on by in the morning.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't quite understand how that armored gpg support works :o
mircea_popescu: phf some shitty wp installs fuck up eg --
mircea_popescu: but yours works fine.
mircea_popescu: where "works" is defined as i can select and paste a gpg armored segment and gpg can process it.
phf: well, there's a hack in comment.php, that wraps PGP messages in <code> and that gets somehow rendered differently
mircea_popescu: didn't know if that was theme level or what. good that it made it in anyway.
phf: but if i just post comment with <code> foo</code> that doesn't work
phf: and the <code> is not otherwise preserved anywhere
phf us totally confused
mircea_popescu: phf comments have a limited set of tags they may contain , code isn't among them.
mircea_popescu: you can fiddle that knob, tho i don't right off recall where it is.
mircea_popescu: (large part of why mp-wp is useful is exactly this : all knobs already set correctly, unroll and gtg.)
mircea_popescu: ie, what asciilifeform said he wanted and then said he didn't get :D
mircea_popescu: preserved for asciilifeform 's viewing pleasure : https://archive.is/ouyoS
mircea_popescu: frozen IN PYTHON. with forward-declared symbols.
phf: that code hack just seems to do ~something~, but it's not anything that i understand
phf: oh that <code> thing gets added and then immediately stripped, it's the function comment_text() that's patched
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 01:52 mircea_popescu: frozen IN PYTHON. with forward-declared symbols.
adlai: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497200 << 'If you wish to examine a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon.' - Bokonon
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 22:09 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494025 << jewwwwot is best wot
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: is that a mortar actually ?
mircea_popescu: sorriest shit
asciilifeform: betcha the orcs occasionally really do mortar straight up.
asciilifeform: new meaning to 'call fire on own position' aha.
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