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adlai: ;;later tell ben_vulpes: "Teaching people to look at the world as a malleable thing is one of the foundations of socialist brainrot" << so satoshi was a communist now too? and get a comment section already willya, it's blogging 101
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: individuals may on occasion change the world of their own accord, but teaching the normie that such is within his grasp is the height of stupid
adlai is talking about the jim crow tardation
adlai: if a meme is to be killed, it's to be done right, and anybody meming "jim crow hurr durr" doesn't actually understand what bitcoin's good for
adlai: there's a connection here, hamevin yavin
adlai: satoshi says, "the world is malleable and so is bitcoin!" sipa says "maybe not", so we shoot him before he starts giving any really dangerous ideas
adlai: idiots.
adlai: !down adlai
ben_vulpes: is this jim crow thing a thread i missed?
BingoBoingo: the seg wit stuff
ben_vulpes: ah clever
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai that post predated my ever hearing about segwit
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i only know what those fuckwits are up to because of you
BingoBoingo: Well I guess nao I have to qntra an explainer
ben_vulpes: i got the hazy notion that someone wanted to implement something that involved...not validating the whole blockchain. tuned out.
ben_vulpes: also, outside my wot. watch me give zero fuxx.
ben_vulpes: ~up amiller
ben_vulpes: !up amiller
ben_vulpes: !gup Guest1038
ben_vulpes: good grief
ben_vulpes: !up Guest1038
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i got the hazy notion that someone wanted to implement something that involved...not validating the whole blockchain. tuned out. << Appears to be new soft phork tx type. details aren't clear to me yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00050917 = 4.5316 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.0005089 = 18.7275 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: does anyone know of any decent sociopolitical histories of tls/ssl?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107100 @ 0.00051382 = 55.0301 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00051417 = 13.2142 BTC [+] {2}
mats: feeling some regret about this eth bet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00051464 = 14.2813 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: > regret
ben_vulpes: > bet
ben_vulpes: > feel
ben_vulpes: what's the story?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55001 @ 0.00051499 = 28.325 BTC [+] {2}
mats: the not-usg remora collective that bought into eth ipo is broke as fuck and are incapable of triggering share dump despite sizable payout from bitbet for this service
mats: there goes ~4btc
ben_vulpes: share dump? the sale that would drive the price down to bet-throwing levels?
ben_vulpes: didja take the bitcoin side of the ebt?
fluffypony: mats: didn't you have a small hedge against your bet?
ben_vulpes: A FLUFFYPONY
fluffypony: A CASCADIAN HAXXER
ben_vulpes: L33T HAXX0R
fluffypony: so l33t his password is 1337
ben_vulpes wonders if anyone got the implicit self-deprecatory 'hack' joke
BingoBoingo: You aren't a complete hack ben_vulpes, just a bit careless with your emacs buffers.
ben_vulpes: /quit
fluffypony: /ragequit
BingoBoingo: You make up for that though by being a jew who knows better than to blow all of the money on the smaller person's preschool.
trinque went to the overly expensive preschool in question
trinque: only memory of it was some kid putting hair clips all along his tongue
trinque: I guess he was expressing himself
fluffypony: if it's not Monte-sorry it's not worth talking about
mats: fluffypony: nope
mircea_popescu: adlai> satoshi says, "the world is malleable and so is bitcoin!" sipa says "maybe not", so we shoot him before he starts giving any really dangerous ideas << you really should lay off the sauce.
mats: ben_vulpes: yes, i took btc side
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> does anyone know of any decent sociopolitical histories of tls/ssl? << "no" or "only shitty ones" depending on your clearance.
ben_vulpes: the curricula are purchaseable for like 500 dollars
ben_vulpes: i have yet to meet a teacher i'd entrust the whole of any educational program to outside my wot
ben_vulpes: perhaps a slice here or there, like latin or ballroom dancing
ben_vulpes: but never fucking ever will i readily consent to stick my offspring in a daycare for an amount of attention outside of my control to be paid to them.
mircea_popescu: oh i thought you were contemplating a mistress.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: narrative scrolling through my head is "tbl made htmlz, smart ppl thot waz cool, rest of internet piled on, shartups demanded cc processing over webz, tls/ssl became defacto"
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : not your call to make. by the time they need or can benefit from that sort of thing, they're old enough to pick their own/
ben_vulpes: tutoring is decent work for a mistress, neh?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's actually pretty accurate. except smart ppl did not think it was cool. "smart" people had visions of a wikipedia-bayesian world.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, the facts fell in, but their interpretation of "what it'll be like"... heh heh
ben_vulpes: well i did think about it for a few weeks before bringing it up. 'was cool' is a simplification of the whole 'semantic web' trip.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: old enough to pick, old enough also to have the wot to select from?
mircea_popescu: nah, it's not even that. it's ... you know how the sort of fucktard that writes sf and like... lives off juices and shit [we're talking 70s here] always represents "the future" with these robed floating aliens of "twu ewolwed" ?
mircea_popescu: well... they figured that's it.
mircea_popescu: ironically... it did bring them the coveted fucking star trek touch panels
mircea_popescu: ie, all the factual bits DID fall into place.
ben_vulpes: but on the other thread, from what pool are 'they' to 'pick their own'? must i not provide?
mircea_popescu: there is no pool.
mircea_popescu: if they're worth a shit they'll find and if not, a well. most stuff developing in an uterus is meant to abort sooner or later anyway.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> but on the other thread, from what pool are 'they' to 'pick their own'? must i not provide? << The pool that knows wheeties actually isn't the breakfast of champion, because that is two scoops of whey and a scoop of dry instant coffee in an shaker.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you are going to get too swole
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, I'm still cutting to the point where I can start getting swole without also getting fat at the same time.
ben_vulpes: > cutting
ben_vulpes: IT BEGINS
BingoBoingo: Well, how else to you handle alcoholic fatty liver than by... chasing the fat out of the liver?
BingoBoingo has already lost a substantial amount of liver weight since the sobriety experiment began as measured by poking the upper right quadrant of my abdomen and contemplating the size of the organ I just pissed off.
mircea_popescu: wouldja stop picking at scabs.
BingoBoingo: You're right. Gotta leave the scabs alone so they can keep undercutting lazy union parasites on the labor market.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 06:59:44; mircea_popescu: if they're worth a shit they'll find and if not, a well. most stuff developing in an uterus is meant to abort sooner or later anyway.
assbot: Lightning Network Skepticism | Escape Velocity ... ( http://bit.ly/1MCBDwZ )
adlai: too bad you can't short vaporware that hasn't even boiled yet
adlai: "> If the lightning network ends up sucking (let???s hope it doesn???t), then so will bitcoin as we will have no choice but to use it by that point. // Or finally raise the blocksize" who'da guessed, comments better than the article itself
adlai: also who on earth beatifies their comment troll alts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48594 @ 0.00050752 = 24.6624 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ryan-c
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0005062 = 8.3017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20406 @ 0.00050503 = 10.3056 BTC [-]
adlai: i'm sorry but this is totally on-topic. /r/btc has "bitcoin startup entrepeneur" flair
adlai: context, /r/bitcoin introduced "bitcoin expert" flair at one point, and endless fests were shat over who gets it and who loses
fluffypony: omg I'm going to apply for that
fluffypony: right after I file to be recognised as a "thought leader"
adlai: "they say a lot of things about whoring being the oldest profession, but somebody had to pay, so Finance was First." - eden shochat, local vc chump pumper. has a good talk i'd link but nobody else medaber ivrit...
adlai: "i love regulation, because it causes fat, and then you slim it off and make bank" (rough translation parahrpase)
adlai: "private blockchains are as mortal as CEOs" (also rough translaying)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30470 @ 0.00050578 = 15.4111 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up airgapped
adlai: can't you let the man !up himself? some cultures consider it rude to help
adlai: even the airgapped deserve some practice driving the cryptotron
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37322 @ 0.00051386 = 19.1783 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: !gettrust STRML_
assbot: STRML_ is not registered in WoT.
adlai: !gettrust STRML
assbot: STRML is not registered in WoT.
adlai: ;;gettrust STRML
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user adlai to user STRML: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=adlai&dest=STRML | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=STRML | Rated since: never
adlai: ;;rated STRML
gribble: You rated user STRML on Mon Dec 28 03:56:10 2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: epsilon risked, nothing gained (nothing lost).
adlai figures he's got to skin the fiat cat someday
adlai: at least STRML's casino doesn't touch the stuff, not even give it out for free if you keep hitting
adlai: for such a long lurker he does do a terrible job at it. wake up, sam! your elbow should be blue and purple by now, neh?
adlai realizes maybe if he wants people to listen to him, he should speak meat or blockchain at them rather than #b-a :(
adlai: "you are doing that too much. try again in 49 seconds." jesus christ marie it's a fucking IP address
adlai: only on /r/btc: "Cobra edits Bitcoin.org about page to remove Sirius from owner's list"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10526 @ 0.0005041 = 5.3062 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: who are these people even smoking? did they sip the brown acid?
adlai: at least the leddit captions that with a real cobra
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20590 @ 0.00050378 = 10.3728 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: So who's online that might be up for spotting me a proofreading?
mats: am here
BingoBoingo: Ah adlai's on it, but I'll get you the preview too
adlai: ah mats, welcome back to assland
mats: been lurking
assbot: 19th-Century Album of Ottoman Fashion | The Public Domain Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbOuv9 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00050198 = 4.568 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: C3TV -32C3: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbOP10 )
adlai: ahaha i love this guy, "it takes twelve years, circa six governments in the state of israel"
adlai: i'd link him but he has the word "maidsafe" on his slides but says "failed" in hebrew,people might ge tthe wrong message
assbot: A year of Taliban gains shows that ‘we haven’t delivered,’ top Afghan official says - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbPMpP )
adlai: he does fall for the fallacy of ascribing relevance to bubble inflation velocity in a post-fiat-escape-hatch market
punkman: https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7352-towards_reasonably_trustworthy_x86_laptops << poor transcript follows: "I used to think we could sandbox ME with VT-d, unfortunately it turned out this doesn't work, which brought me to the sad conclusion that perhaps if we look at the Intel x86 platform, the war is lost. It truly is hopeless, even if ME didn't exist. It bothers me since I spent the last 5 years
assbot: C3TV -Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbPPlE )
punkman: on my Qubes project which turns out to be meaningless."
punkman: then she turns around, "oh we must change the game", "state considered harmful", "do you want my trusted stick?"
adlai tl;dr's his guerrilla transcription: "would-be entrepeneurs, don't waste your time building companies. fuck shit up and send me the datapix, maybe i'll like them and buy some more"
punkman: who's that?
assbot: ‫כנס ביטקוין 2015 - חלק א'‬‎ - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vm8i0t )
adlai: i mean fuck, it's even got a leet checksum
adlai rests his case, and weary brain. maybe tomorrow it'll piss again.
adlai: !down adlai
punkman: !s tlsnotary
assbot: 5 results for 'tlsnotary' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tlsnotary
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00050377 = 5.9369 BTC [+] {2}
deedbot-: [Qntra] The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream - http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/
punkman: not bad BB
BingoBoingo: thank you punkman
assbot: The Empire Files: Ralph Nader & Abby Martin on the Corporate Elections - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YMm4K7 )
BingoBoingo: "On Sunday afternoon, as rain continued to pummel much of the St. Louis region, 2015 officially became the wettest year on record. It came amid reports of widespread flooding, a plea by officials in West Alton to evacuate and the closure of Interstate 70 through the heart of St. Charles County. And with rain continuing Monday, river levels throughout the region are expected to hit near-record crests by New Year’s Eve."
BingoBoingo: Actual flood season usually doesn't start until April, or at least March
BingoBoingo: "Mississippi river levels at Alton are expected to reach nearly 39 feet by Thursday, only 3.7 feet lower than the 1993 record. In St. Louis, the water is expected to crest just shy of 45 feet, which would rank only behind the 49.6 feet recorded during the flood of ’93."
BingoBoingo: "Down river, the Mississippi was forecast to reach or surpass the 1993 record of 49.74 at Chester, Ill., on Friday. That level would impact Menard Correctional Center and comes within inches of the top of the levee protecting St. Genevieve, Mo."
BingoBoingo: All of this water and fucking California can have none of it.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 426.2, vol: 6516.68988212 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 424.596, vol: 5478.27021 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 424.64, vol: 24132.59731712 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 0.118 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 425.5264, vol: 69354.93620000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 428.98, vol: 85.24159845 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 432.93549, vol: 22.00506 | Volume-weighted last average: 425.321439986
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00050829 = 16.062 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: for the record, ottoman fashion's pretty cool. they invented a lot of things above and beyond the ottoman
mircea_popescu: (that very useful piece of furniture for anyone that keeps cocksuckers in the house)
mircea_popescu: such as you know, fucking underwear.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050695 = 9.0237 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00050841 = 5.7705 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: !up junseth
junseth: hey everyone. Just popping in to see what the scum of the earth is up to ;P
BingoBoingo: Oh, a little bit of everything. Picking fights with XT and blockstream at the same time
junseth: God the XT-ers
junseth: At this point, that debate is like trying to tell a Christian evolution is real.
junseth: "Why, don't you want our opinion?"
assbot: The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OgP1ME )
junseth: Haha, nice. Gotta say, the thing i like about bitcoin-assets is that whether or not I agree with ya'll, you keep shit weird.
junseth: This is good I'm kin dof fed up with the people who didn't care about block size 5 months ago, and then Gavin told them to care, and now they care.
BingoBoingo: Seriously. But on the other hand can't let blockstream get an ego and think they can Gavin themselves.
junseth: Sounds good to me. Just push Maxwell to bring us fungibility by next Christmas
junseth: and I'll be squealing like one of Bitcoin's many beautiful transgendered women. :)
BingoBoingo: But you definitely can see the positive effect all this drama is having on price, right?
junseth: I don't care. For those of us who are long termers, a cheap Bitcoin is a good bitcoin
BingoBoingo: Seriously
junseth: All right, I'll be back in a few months to make sure that ya'll are still the weirdest enclave in the space. Just doing the prison rounds, wanted to take a count of the inmates. Time to pretend like real life is real life.
BingoBoingo: Alright
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5965 @ 0.00050695 = 3.024 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13685 @ 0.00050482 = 6.9085 BTC [-]
assbot: Kazonomics - Poses as a rich and successful Bitcoin-Guru but is in fact a dirt poor & notorious criminal who just can´t stay away from trouble. - Welcome to Fyrstikken ... ( http://bit.ly/1me9MON )
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 390659 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 444 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41628 @ 0.00050403 = 20.9818 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [Ossasepia] Euloran Cookbook V1.2 - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/12/28/euloran-cookbook-v1-2/
BingoBoingo: Oh hai, look where qntra made it again: https://archive.is/RT7C2 https://archive.is/dmNZC
assbot: Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jc6BkK )
assbot: The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jc6DsC )
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355349 <<< This is what *should* be at top of page, instead of all the other "censorship!" nonsense.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 15:26:46; BingoBoingo: Oh hai, look where qntra made it again: https://archive.is/RT7C2 https://archive.is/dmNZC
assbot: Roger Ver rallies around Coinbase. What could possibly go wrong this time around? I mean the last time Ver vouched for someone, new captains of industry were created right? : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1knNubr )
BingoBoingo: shinohai: It's making it there
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b21
BingoBoingo: !up joshbuddy
assbot: BlockchainOfFools comments on The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream ... ( http://bit.ly/1knQl4n )
ben_vulpes: Softforks that explicitly create an incentive for their own revocation create an extraordinary moral hazard. << rather
ben_vulpes: rather nice qntra, BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: ty ben_vulpes
pete_dushenski: shinohai: pff. b-a doesn't rubber stamp, we brand with iron directly on skin.
ben_vulpes: foreskins!
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform how are the new minez?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: way to break in past the reddit censors. wd.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I actually didn't submit it to reddit.
BingoBoingo: This is "organic" social media manure accumulating
BingoBoingo: I don't have a current reddit account "broken in" enough to chance on shitting qntra into reddit. Gotta farm some more "wheymens"
pete_dushenski: that's what fiverr's for
pete_dushenski: which i'm sure qntra could find in its budget
BingoBoingo: What budget? Everything goes into servers, coffee, or HODL.
pete_dushenski: you could always reallocate some of those saved boozebezzlars
BingoBoingo: Those go to coffee and HODL
pete_dushenski: "Saudi Arabia, its finances hit by low oil prices, announced plans to shrink a record state budget deficit with spending cuts and a drive to raise revenues from sources other than oil. The government of the world's top oil exporter ran a deficit of 367 billion riyals ($97.9 billion) in 2015, the Council of Economic and Development Affairs said on Monday." << i wouldn't be surprised if we saw a regime change in t
pete_dushenski: he next 12 months. this is going to be a rough ride for abdullah's stand-ins.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: ya, that's actually a smarter use of funds
BingoBoingo: Also some of the saved boozelars have gone into the gas tank, because some days there isn't a storytime club meeting in reasonable walking distance.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 15:51:47; ben_vulpes: foreskins!
BingoBoingo: lol throckmorton's sign https://archive.is/oD4nq
assbot: throckmortonsign comments on The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream ... ( http://bit.ly/1knTb9i )
BingoBoingo: ;;google throckmorton's sign
gribble: Throckmorton's sign | Radiology Reference Article | Radiopaedia.org: <http://radiopaedia.org/articles/throckmortons-sign-1>; John Thomas sign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thomas_sign>; Throckmorton's sign - Whonamedit - dictionary of medical eponyms: <http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/3050.html>
BingoBoingo: !up tripleslash_t
pete_dushenski: tried watching some jeremy piven show on netflix last night where he plays an american entrepreneur in london who starts his own department store circa 1909 and the only way i could stand it was with the volume off. the set design is the ~only~ redeeming quality of that show.
pete_dushenski: anyways, watch at your own risk, but definitely not recommended viewing.
pete_dushenski: though the few bits about jobs being hard to come by, and only the handsomest men and prettiest women being able to snag jobs, and the employers turning applicants away because they have dirty fingernails was kinda neat, if only because that's the way the world works outside of the narrow historical confines of "we print the bezzlars"-istan.
pete_dushenski: mr. selfridge << the show in question
pete_dushenski: and... apparently the show is 3 years old and already on its fourth season. fancy that.
assbot: Climate Schlock, David Henderson | EconLog | Library of Economics and Liberty ... ( http://bit.ly/22uPfGg )
punkman: pete_dushenski: the set design is the ~only~ redeeming quality of that show. << isn't that why they call them costume dramas
pete_dushenski: but then where's the drama ?!!1
punkman: maybe piven ate it
pete_dushenski: or he gave it away to johnny from entourage
assbot: The Wrong Mans (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/22uPq4c )
mod6: pete_dushenski: hey, got your msg. thanks for updating your blog. much appreciated.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.35, vol: 6479.61616555 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.499, vol: 6114.4076 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 423.22, vol: 22179.5503971 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 0.118 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 424.266579, vol: 67575.50010000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 428.90974, vol: 107.89201068 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 430.454101889, vol: 27.32749261 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 423.8796412
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html << re: footnote [2]; jurov, maybe this was the issue I ran into -- i'll have to try this.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Taming the mempool ... ( http://bit.ly/1NvyaEi )
mod6: Thanks again for posting your report & corresponding patch. Great work.
pete_dushenski: punkman: the fat one looks awfully familiar but i can't place him.
pete_dushenski: mod6: np :)
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 15:52:00; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform how are the new minez?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00050384 = 2.1413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00050343 = 6.5698 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: assbot: A year of Taliban gains shows that ‘we haven’t delivered,’ top Afghan official says << loller.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355290 << i broadly agree. laptops have no future ; thanks god for that.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 10:48:06; punkman: on my Qubes project which turns out to be meaningless."
mircea_popescu never liked the shits.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/ << check out BingoBoingo! getting quite adept at splitting teh narrative huh ?
assbot: The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OgP1ME )
mircea_popescu: !gettrust junseth
assbot: junseth is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355331 << no, actually : the whole charade of muppets, with that despicable bfl shill Luke-Jr front and center, was derping ON AND ON about how gotta keep the blockchain small back when MPEx:S.DICE was the largest economic activity in the whole currency.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 13:50:37; junseth: This is good I'm kin dof fed up with the people who didn't care about block size 5 months ago, and then Gavin told them to care, and now they care.
mircea_popescu: but hey, times achanged.
mircea_popescu: and somehow nobody's supposed to remember 2013 because reasons.
mircea_popescu: somehow "hardforking the blockchain to accomodate dust transactions" wasn't a concern, back before hussein bahamas climbed atop mit and started throwing meatballs and chicken nuggets at the rotinculo chorus.
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/hAXeL << ahaha what the shit is this.
assbot: Kazonomics - Poses as a rich and successful Bitcoin-Guru but is in fact a dirt poor & notorious criminal who just can´t stay away from trouble. - Welcome to Fyrstikken ... ( http://bit.ly/1mLkdcD )
mircea_popescu: "These are all public records and there are tons more if you want to dig deeper into the criminal life of Kaseem Sarad Simpson, AKA @Kazonomics on twitter" eh srsly, dude's can't drive and had a falling out with some weisz chick.
mircea_popescu: hardly a criminal mastermind or anything.
mircea_popescu: fancy that. immensely apt.
mircea_popescu: "I'm Roger Ver, long-time Roger Ver advocate and investor. Today, I'm at the Roger Ver world headquarters in Saint Kitts and Nevis. I had a nice chat with Roger Ver CEO, Roger Ver, about their current situation. He showed me multiple bank statements, as well as letters from banks, lawyers and Roger Ver. I'm sure that all the current Roger Ver problems at Roger Ver are being caused by the traditional banking system, not
mircea_popescu: because of a lack of liquidity at Roger Ver. The traditional banking partners that Roger Ver needs to work with are not able to keep up with the demands of the growing Roger Ver economy. The dozens of people that make up the Roger Ver team are hard at work establishing additional banking partners, that eventually will make dealing with Roger Ver easier for all their customers around the world. For now, I hope that eve
mircea_popescu: ryone will continue working on Roger Ver projects that will help make the world a better place."
mircea_popescu: lol butts delivered.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355361 << quite. all this verbiage about how "oh lalala, if miners stop enforcing X fork they will be excluded" fails to account for the fact that unlike the various PRBs, TRB does NOT actually implement any of the soft forks. so no, they won't be "excluded". nobody will notice they stopped.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 15:49:52; ben_vulpes: Softforks that explicitly create an incentive for their own revocation create an extraordinary moral hazard. << rather
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355375 << speaking of which, BingoBoingo do you want a fiverr account with whatever credit on it ?
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 15:57:30; pete_dushenski: that's what fiverr's for
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355381 << there's a huge difference between fully financed deficit (such as sae runs) and fully uncovered deficit, such as the us (or argentina) run.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 16:02:02; pete_dushenski: he next 12 months. this is going to be a rough ride for abdullah's stand-ins.
mircea_popescu: the saudis have a shitton of cash to throw around before they need to notice the hole.
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin-related code written by developers reached 7,000 in December, up from 1,000 bitcoin codes in mid-2013. The number of PayPal-related codes is below 3,000 (based on Github depository references)."
mircea_popescu: these people are fducking retarded already
mats: >has uncovered a database sitting on the Web containing various pieces of personal information related to 191 million American citizens registered to vote... [the data] includes names, home addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, party affiliations, and logs of whether or not they had voted in primary or general elections.
mats: huhuhu
mats: punkman: did you read her paper?
mats: or didja assume 'trusted stick' == 'trusted platform module'?
punkman: I read
mats: what problem(s) do you see with this scheme?
mats is on pg15
punkman: mats, do you think persistence is the problem?
punkman: or that we can't even trust own mother
mats: no
mats: i can however appreciate some facets of her thing, like being able to trivially inspect device fw
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mats: mircea_popescu: meaning of sae?
ben_vulpes: the number of related codes?!
ben_vulpes: in what world
ben_vulpes: i don't
ben_vulpes: understand
ben_vulpes: how the world works
mats: ben_vulpes: context?
assbot: I'm Bill Pollock, No Starch Press founder. I'm here with some of our authors. Ask us anything! : netsec ... ( http://bit.ly/1NSWCxc )
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2014 03:50:12; asciilifeform: there is already a hard impossibility proof of turing-complete computation in a homomorphic turd.
mats: ben_vulpes: oops. i scrolled up.
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_butugychag
mats: k just checking
ascii_butugychag: and lulzily, that's my new job...
ascii_butugychag: i shit thee not
mats: yeah, you mentioned it last month
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 22:02:19; ascii_butugychag: and lulzily, that's my new job...
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mats: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=intel-trace-hub-for-linux p interesting, oughta materialize in the next year (still R&D afaik)
assbot: Intel Trace Hub Support Coming To Linux - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1OV2LJ9 )
mats: can sync with software logging even
shinohai: !rate ben_vulpes 1 Bash necromancer of trb things. http://cascadianhacker.com
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BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355447 << Nope, don't have one without credit either
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 18:10:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355375 << speaking of which, BingoBoingo do you want a fiverr account with whatever credit on it ?
BingoBoingo: Substantial props go to adlai and mats for the proofreading help
BingoBoingo: Honestly I wouldn't know what to do with a fiverr account
punkman: all kinds of amusing things
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 22:23:53; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355490 << you mean homomorphic turds?
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 19:01:29; mats: i can however appreciate some facets of her thing, like being able to trivially inspect device fw
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punkman: asciilifeform: I posted the video and this should be the paper https://github.com/rootkovska/state_harmful/blob/master/state_harmful.md
assbot: state_harmful/state_harmful.md at master · rootkovska/state_harmful · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tn9f7r )
asciilifeform: 'The main principle introduced below is the requirement for the laptop hardware to be stateless, i.e. lacking any persistent storage. This includes it having no firmware-carrying flash memory chips. All the state is to be kept on an external, trusted device. This trusted device is envisioned to be of a small USB stick or SD card form factor.' << batshit lunacy on x86
asciilifeform: can't initialize the dram controller, much less usb etc. without a proprietary turd
asciilifeform: in firmware
asciilifeform: (loads in cache-as-ram mode on intel/amd)
asciilifeform: and i ain't watching video.
assbot: Rutkowska: State considered harmful - A proposal for a stateless laptop [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tn9lft )
mats: pdf enclosed
mats: oh, didn't see punkman's link
mats: much better.
asciilifeform: l0l external jack for spi eeprom
asciilifeform: this is a mega-invention ?
asciilifeform: i have this right here on this desk.
asciilifeform: so the basic lie-by-implication baked into this paper, is that the firmware that ships with the box is 'trusted'
asciilifeform: unless reflashed
asciilifeform: which is a crock of shit
asciilifeform: or the sophomoric reduction of attack vectors enabled by intel ME to 'inject malware'
asciilifeform: (how about good ol' kleptography ? cp planting ? etc. i can think of 101 other items which have nothing to do with 'malware')
asciilifeform: 'We thus see that, while we cannot fully eliminate the problem of subversion of the host OS security by potentially malicious processor, the construction of the stateless laptop allows us to force the adversary into a very dangerous territory, requiring them to take high risk and also making the attack very complex.' << mno.
asciilifeform: 'Admittedly such an approach would not be able to detect sophisticated attacks which replace the original laptop board with identically looking one ... ' << again, this odd presumption that the original ~needs~ to be surreptitiously replaced
asciilifeform: what part of pwned-at-the-factory is unclear ?
asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any more of the claptrap
asciilifeform: this is not even turd-polishing. it is turd-washing
asciilifeform: with the specific chumpatronic purpose of distracting from the nature of the turd thereby.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 23:04:54; mats: can sync with software logging even
asciilifeform: (if there is ANY POSSIBLE means for the debuggee to sense the fact of debugging - in band.)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov what version of gpg is used in turdatron? kakobrekla's chokes on my updated key, but turdatron - happily eats
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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punkman: asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any more of the claptrap << aww you missed the part where the stick does wifi and tor
assbot: eTD - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/1NT8fUT )
thestringpuller: Watching Shark Tank - D00ds want to make a security company to compete with lastpass. Mark Cuban asks them "Do you have a crypto background?" "Uh we're not techies" "I'm out".
BingoBoingo: Could still make a security company if they had some welding background
assbot: Baby Off Bridge Hoax Cost Haverhill $50K « CBS Boston ... ( http://bit.ly/1NT9rHV )
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355510 << the one thing i did was, get a buncha students put 100s of printed posters of http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ in a few dozen campuses throughout the us and canada.
assbot: Logged on 28-12-2015 23:51:07; punkman: all kinds of amusing things
assbot: The Gentlemen Prefer CoEds Club on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxR3lb )
mircea_popescu: as per nubbins rules of engagement, this has resulted in no collegiate sluts doing their job.
mircea_popescu: STRICTLY BECAUSE of the cheap quality of the printing, mind you.
mircea_popescu: not because they suck at doing what they're naturally supposed to do.
assbot: Logged on 29-12-2015 00:03:37; asciilifeform: 'The main principle introduced below is the requirement for the laptop hardware to be stateless, i.e. lacking any persistent storage. This includes it having no firmware-carrying flash memory chips. All the state is to be kept on an external, trusted device. This trusted device is envisioned to be of a small USB stick or SD card form factor.' << batshit lunacy on x86
asciilifeform: my 386 had no flashables. but that wasn't the point.
BingoBoingo: 3 points, 36 comments https://archive.is/ZL7zt
assbot: The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1UeHk9X )
mircea_popescu: certainly becoming a force.
BingoBoingo just created exuse to drop latest archive snapshot of derp here, Reddit never changes
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: just like war.
assbot: Federal judge: Drinking tea, shopping at a gardening store is probable cause for a SWAT raid on your home - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfhiJ8 )
mircea_popescu: "He was told to lie on the floor. " <<< how about "Fuck you" ?
mircea_popescu: what is this bullshit.
BingoBoingo: SWAT officers tend to "accidentally" discharge their weapons with a high rate of frequency. It's a military problem without easy answers if you get to that point.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i suppose by the time there's armed dudes at your door liberal supression fire's the only way to go.
BingoBoingo: Once they're inside prolly just gotta be polite enough to hopefully not get accidentallied in order to try to fuck them back later.
mircea_popescu: plenty cheeky, the bastards.
ben_vulpes: if you're not Living In Fear (tm) you're not Living American (tm)!
mircea_popescu: ever more soviet, soviet.
assbot: We Hates It Forever - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjlgu )
BingoBoingo: "As far as what I see, according to the candidates that are out there now, Republicans and Democrats, I think he’s head and shoulders right now above the rest. I don’t agree with everything he says, he speaks a little more, actually he speaks a little more, a lot more radically than I talk. And I think that’s a positive and negative." -David Duke
assbot: I hate sunshine - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjkZS )
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yklrd/accidentally_sent_btc_to_bitmixer_donation/ << lmao. "possibility of scam" = i sent bitcoin to donation address why am i not getting it back ?!?!?!
assbot: Accidentally sent BTC to Bitmixer donation address but no refund : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjW1N )
thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ygpom/its_time_to_decentralize_bitcoin_development/cydk5q1 << Luke-Jr states "This is not consensus-compatible with the Bitcoin network."
thestringpuller: !gettrust Luke-Jr
assbot: Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Luke-Jr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 4 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=thestringpuller&to=Luke-Jr | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Luke-Jr/
thestringpuller: well that's settled.
mircea_popescu: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html?_r=0 <<< ahaha check it out, the cover-up story is shaping up! it wasn't the usg using the holes in tor to try and steal some bitcoin, after which their agents stole most of it from them in turn. oh, no! it's a heroic guy that bla bla bla, just like in thye old soviet movies!
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfk94Z )
ben_vulpes: lol who are future_prophecy and veqtrus
mircea_popescu: how fucktarded are these people ?
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ?
mircea_popescu: new article tho, note the 27th
mircea_popescu: what the fuck happened here.
mircea_popescu: "By NATHANIEL POPPERDEC. 25, 2015"
mircea_popescu: but the url takes a 27 not a 25.
asciilifeform: does archive.is diff ?
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: they must lurk in the channel.
ben_vulpes: come out come out wherever you are
asciilifeform: 'Last week, U.S. District Court Judge John W. Lungstrum dismissed every one of the Hartes’s claims. Harte found that sending a SWAT team into a home first thing in the morning based on no more than a positive field test and spotting a suspect at a gardening store was not a violation of the Fourth Amendment. He found that the police had probable cause for the search, and that the way the search was conducted did not constitut
asciilifeform: e excessive force. He found that the Hartes had not been defamed by the raid or by the publicity surrounding it. He also ruled that the police were under no obligation to know that drug testing field kits are inaccurate, nor were they obligated to wait for the more accurate lab tests before conducting the SWAT raid. The only way they’d have a claim would be if they could show that the police lied about the results, deliberat
asciilifeform: ely manipulated the tests or showed a reckless disregard for the truth — and he ruled that the Hartes had failed to do so.' << lulz
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.Luke-Jr.-2:89749f404fa5d809cb02d55e0b7bc157a303274ee9730cfc23f6122edb3b8858
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for Luke-Jr from -1 to -2 with note: Shilled for BFL scam, probably a secret Papist, why is he still around?
asciilifeform: 'The Hartes are also a white, financially sound couple who both happened to have worked for the CIA.' << extra-lulz
assbot: BangShift.com Indiana Bridge ... ( http://bit.ly/1mflfOf )
BingoBoingo: "Ms. Lambright was aware of the iron bridge stating she had driven on it several times in her personal vehicle and was also aware of the posted signage “no semis, weight limit of 6 tons”. When asked by Paoli Police why she continued through the bridge knowing the weight limit was only 6 tons she admitted to not knowing how many pounds that was."
BingoBoingo: pictures of wreck are pretty lulzy
mircea_popescu: ^ poster child for "i just wanted to" and other jwzisms.
mircea_popescu: why SHOULD she know what the fuck a truck costs. it moves when you turn the wheel right ?
asciilifeform: iirc truckers traditionally know what the truck costs - they save pennies and dream of buying their own machine
asciilifeform: instead of being peon
mircea_popescu: what are you, from like the 80s ?
mircea_popescu: the only truck drivers not on meth are the ones too dumb to figure out how to buy it, currently.
asciilifeform wonders if same goes for programmers
mircea_popescu: they don't make enough.
asciilifeform: in usa - about same as trucker
mircea_popescu: hahahahaha
mircea_popescu: average income of us based programmer is ~same as table waitress. $3 an hour + tips.
mircea_popescu: which works out because the us is all about gender equality.
asciilifeform: almost forgot what 'programmer' means to mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: suppose we ask the "programmer" himself ? eh ?
asciilifeform: quasi-literate programming folk straight from school not infrequently get six figures (of modern-day inflated bezzlar, sure)
mircea_popescu: ;;google "i dont no biari"
gribble: It Was Like We Were Becoming the World "BIARI is not about ...: <http://watson.brown.edu/biari/news/explore/2014/ConnectionsandFlows>; Climate Change BIARI, Day Four + Development and Inequality ...: <http://www.globalconversation.org/2010/06/18/climate-change-biari-day-four-development-and-inequality-biari-day-eleven>; Human Security and Humanitarian Response - BIARI 2014 - (1 more message)
assbot: i dont no biari (i know a littel java.) on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TnkmNH )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in usa - about same as trucker << just heard a commercial; Dominoes is paying $75-$80k for over-the-road CDL drivers day and night routes.
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Wordsmithy - http://trilema.com/2015/the-wordsmithy/
mats: http://log.b-a.link/?date=29-12-2015#1355571 << notice how judge is not mentioned at all
mats: that is -- he is not identified by name -- one John W. Lungstrum
mats: if you wanna read trial court doc: http://dpaste.com/1JK434R
assbot: dpaste: 1JK434R ... ( http://bit.ly/1TnlHnG )
mats: Harte v. Board of Commissioners of County of Johnson County, Kansas http://dpaste.com/1Q4VSYS
assbot: dpaste: 1Q4VSYS ... ( http://bit.ly/1TnlIbf )
mats: i'd clearsign but unable to do so rn
mats: >The requisite causal connection is satisfied if the defendant set in motion a series of events that the defendant knew or reasonably should have known would cause others to deprive the plaintiff of her constitutional rights.” Mink v. Knox, 613 F.3d 995, 1001 (10th Cir.2010) (quoting Snell v. Tunnell, 920 F.2d 673, 700 (10th Cir.1990)).
mats: "you made me do it, fuck you"
mats: whoops, skimmed too fast. ignore that.
mircea_popescu: !up Alopex
mircea_popescu: mats by this logic rebellions negro slaves weren't having any rights infringed.
mircea_popescu: they should have fucking known giving lip to massah resultsi n beatings.
mircea_popescu: rebellious*
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it is EXACTLY the logic the SOPS were proferring cca 1815 on the topic.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense - the courts are exactly unchanged.
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