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adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-12-2015#1343134 << but this is no good, the questions are coded by smell
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 02:22:31; BingoBoingo: perhaps he went adlai, knows what color 42 is
assbot: The sad economics of being famous on the internet | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1SYCfCs )
adlai: some of the #bitcoin-cinephiles may enjoy Bridge of Spies (some may detest it as blatant promurican propaganda)
adlai: either way it's good if you like watching Tom Hanks cry
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adlai: !up nanasho
nanasho: so, everything as usual today
BingoBoingo: What do you mean by usual?
punkman: bowel movements perhaps
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343231 << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed.
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 03:30:37; ben_vulpes: whoa, no bingoboingo?!
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 22:36:39; jurov: don't know. electrum produces P2SH transactions, that's how i found out.
BingoBoingo: punkman: It's looking that way.
punkman: that can't be right
punkman: maybe trb doesn't like compressed pubkeys?
assbot: Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/key.h ... ( http://bit.ly/1SYG4HE )
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adlai: !s uncompressed
assbot: 5 results for 'uncompressed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=uncompressed
adlai: deeding to uncompressed addresses has the featurbugresult of requiring more satoshibytes to spend, for the same notarization cost
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deedbot-: [Qntra] Withdrawal Fees For Changetip Starting - http://qntra.net/2015/12/withdrawal-fees-for-changetip-starting/
adlai: not tagged Altcoins? :P
BingoBoingo: lol, not this time
BingoBoingo: Don't think changetip is even that anymore
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BingoBoingo: Holy shit. danielpbarron is now a gurl on twitter.
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danielpbarron: hah BingoBoingo, that's not my only account. You can share it with me if you want
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nubbins`: i forgot we were doing deeds here
nubbins` pushed a deed to the bc yesterday of his own accord
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punkman: "crapjects"
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343236 << not like i've paid macri to deny visas to usians or anything.
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 03:32:39; ben_vulpes: grand shame considering the wine and steak cost/quality curve in bsas
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 04:07:41; asciilifeform: another melted switch ?
mircea_popescu: anyone wants to read things, read them when they can. trilema's not a consumer good, the consumer's at trilema's convenience.
mircea_popescu: and if the consumer doesn't like this situation, that's fine : buy a gun shoot your president.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343282 <<< oft repeated by yours truly, tho perhaps not really here.
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 07:17:41; punkman: http://fusion.net/story/244545/famous-and-broke-on-youtube-instagram-social-media/ for entomologists
mircea_popescu: was the #1 topic back in romanian-trilema days, due to the readership being primarily interested in it.
mircea_popescu: all these "successes" would make more money in plain prostitution in 1995 than they do with their "successful" internet bullshits today. but hey, people would much rather "disbelieve" and carry on with their idiocy than stop and reconsider whether "women's issues" and "pop culture" are a decent use of their productive time.
mircea_popescu: "Platforms like YouTube mirror the U.S. economy’s yawning wealth gap, and being a part of YouTube’s “middle class” often means grappling daily with the cognitive dissonance of a full comments section and an empty wallet. Journalists kvell over stars like Swedish gamer Pewdiepie, whose net worth is around $12 million, or comedian Jenna Marbles, who’s worth around $2.5 million. On the other extreme, fan-funding
mircea_popescu: sites like Patreon (a Kickstarter-type site that allows for ongoing funding) are at the center of a communal movement to fund “smaller YouTubers.” But that definition gets blurry. Is someone with 50,000 subscribers worth supporting financially? How about 200,000? What if people assume you’re too successful to need money, and you’re too proud to tell them otherwise?"
mircea_popescu: that's not the question. the question is why is mp worth a billion and kim kardashian worth 10 million. when did death threats > nice ass, by 3 degrees of magnitude ? is this allowed by Obama ?
mircea_popescu: "Nobody knows all this better than me. I’m 27 years old and have been building an online following for 10 years, beginning with a popular Livejournal I wrote in high school." << and yet the notion doesn't go through his head that maybe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-09-2015#1267054
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 02:12:06; assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:51:36; mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
mircea_popescu: and maybe a whole raft of "choices" he "made" by "himself" are the cause of his poverty, through the proxy of his indescribable stupidity.
mircea_popescu: "The high highs and low lows leave me reeling. One week, I was stopped for photos six times while perusing comic books in downtown L.A. The next week, I sat faceless in a room of 40 people vying for a menial courier job. I’ve walked a red carpet with $80 in my bank account. Popular YouTube musician Meghan Tonjes said she performed on Vidcon’s MainStage this year to screaming, crying fans without knowing whether she
mircea_popescu: ’d be able to afford groceries."
mircea_popescu: so much win.
mircea_popescu: "She likened trying to get famous through social media to shelling out money for college—in each case, one suffers through hard work and zero-to-negative income in the hopes of a later payout. The difference, Beggs said, is that YouTube is more accessible “because there’s no admissions committee.” The technical term for this is the Dunning Kruger effect, where unskilled individuals believe themselves to be more
mircea_popescu: adept than they are."
mircea_popescu: heh. and alf blames colleges. looky here alfie : without the college scams, these schmucks would go to youtube to be fleeced.
mircea_popescu: because cow gotta be milked. otherwise, mastitis. it hurts.
mircea_popescu: |Online culture has often placed emphasis on both social justice and purity—or at the very least, humility.| >>> bwajhahjajaja
mircea_popescu: mno, it hasn't.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343292 << you don;'t understand how the future works.
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 07:47:56; BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343231 << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343292 << is that a portmanteau of "the internet i mean the wwweb" on one hand and "rejects" on the other ? or "projects" on the other ?
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 07:47:56; BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343231 << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed.
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "|Today social media spamming service Changetip in a bid to generate revenue from users is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee." <<< you mean "In a bid to generate revenue the social media spamming service Changetip is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee today. As people actually involved in Bitcoin might remember, the 1% fee exists as a Schelling point mostly due to BitBet's i
mircea_popescu: ntroduction a few years ago. The trend where fiat-based Bitcoin parasites follow Bitcoin regulation enshrined by the most serene republic is encouraging as to their prospects. The trend where they fail to mention whom they're copying (and why) is perhaps dangerous to their userbase of <a href=http://fusion.net/story/244545/famous-and-broke-on-youtube-instagram-social-media/>poor confused nobodies</a>, who have demonstr
mircea_popescu: ated time and again that they don't really have the intellectual wherewithal to find their way out of the fiat paper bag.
mircea_popescu: Always remember, dear fiat craptrepreneurs : sucking republican cock is a good start, but always remember to make eye contact! That's where your submission really sinks in, to everyone (and especially to your) benefit." ?
mircea_popescu: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is up
mircea_popescu: mkay, so there we go.
thestringpuller: "If every single person withdrew all their coins they would make less than $3500. This isn't a viable business model."
nubbins`: if every single person did any given action, stupid shit would happen.
nubbins`: Life isn't a viable biznis model
thestringpuller: ;;calc 0.01 * 775 * 430
gribble: 3332.5
nubbins`: "If the laws of probability completely broke down, this bad thing would happen to ur moniez"
nubbins`: yeah, that's great, but I'm more concerned with the fact that all of london is trying to visit the zoo at the same time
mircea_popescu: if every ustard < 40 did a honest day's work, china'd be so fucked.
thestringpuller: except the US has terrible management these days
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mircea_popescu: there is that.
thestringpuller: blame the shepards not the sheep...
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mircea_popescu: no, i'll blame the sheep.
thestringpuller: more ruthless than suge knight on death row.
nubbins`: the new and "untouchable" death row records
nubbins`: i recall watching an interview with him once
nubbins`: talking about vanilla ice, the rapper
thestringpuller: "Hangin' out the window \ it bout to be a suge knight"
nubbins`: he legitimately said "vanilla ice didn't write his debut album. nigga named chocolate wrote that album."
mircea_popescu: what's a suge knight
nubbins`: a type of record executive
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nubbins`: my band ;(
nubbins`: pretty terrible
mircea_popescu: why would you be in a terrible band ?
nubbins`: for the lulz and the free beer, obvs
nubbins`: plus smacking drums is a great way to unwind
thestringpuller: ^^^trulyfe
mircea_popescu: because of the leather amirite
nubbins`: most heads are synthetic these days
nubbins`: stool is leather but if you sit on it too long your dick falls asleep
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thestringpuller: !gettrust phantomcircuit
assbot: Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user phantomcircuit: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=thestringpuller&to=phantomcircuit | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/phantomcircuit/
thestringpuller: funny everytime i see these old derps names in -dev logs always has a negative L2 rating
mircea_popescu: this because bitcoin is not like open sores.
mircea_popescu: more like eyesores.
thestringpuller: bitcoin does need more eyecandy
shinohai: "whenever you interact with him god kills a kitten" <<< priceless
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jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoincentral
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 407.6, Best ask: 407.6, Bid-ask spread: 0.00000, Last trade: 407.6, 24 hour volume: 53.70502554, 24 hour low: 399.0, 24 hour high: 410.0, 24 hour vwap: 404.84722866
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davout: mircea_popescu: pl0x to x.eur
davout: jurov: paymium was victim of its own success this afternoon
kakobrekla: what happened?
jurov: big delivery requested?
davout: hah no, large update
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i don't take the 'babies sleeping on stomachs' thing one way or another, though the 'sids' angle is covered here : http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/21/the-case-for-infanticide/#comment-21345
assbot: The case for infanticide. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1mlWYWh )
pete_dushenski: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.03346v1.pdf << 'autonomous vehicles need experimental ethics : are we ready for utilitarian cars ?' << another one for ben_vulpes, mitch_callahan, et al.
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pete_dushenski: "Multiculturalism leads to parallel societies and therefore remains a ‘life lie,’ ” or a sham, she said, before adding that Germany may be reaching its limits in terms of accepting more refugees. "The challenge is immense," she said. "We want and we will reduce the number of refugees noticeably."
pete_dushenski: ^angela merkel
nubbins`: parallel societies!
punkman: lol!
nubbins`: wtf does that even mean
nubbins`: some people have ham for dinner?
punkman: I'm guessing they are starting to build favelas in germany
nubbins`: "we want everyone to be homogenous, somehow, even though i'm fucking german and that didn't make sense even before this started happening"
pete_dushenski: heh. bringing in a whackload of non-yurapeans into your country without also forcing them to submit to the rules and regulations of the dominant resident culture is asking to be mowed down.
nubbins`: hey, in canada you still have to swear fealty to the queen.
pete_dushenski: that and 5 bucks buys you coffee
nubbins`: only at charbucks
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pete_dushenski: when's the last time you saw a new immigrant getting thumped on the head for not lifting his pinky while drinking tea ?
nubbins`: commisariat house afternoon tea, july 21 2015, st johns nl
nubbins`: just kidding
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field
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ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343335 << it'd be lulzy to go to mircea_popesculand and throw a party and see if he shows up !
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 14:25:04; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343236 << not like i've paid macri to deny visas to usians or anything.
mircea_popescu: considering the sad state of ba night life, it'd be a wonder if i didn't.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343339 << wonder if mircea_popescu is thinking of moving the thing to gossipnet when the latter is up
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 14:26:20; mircea_popescu: anyone wants to read things, read them when they can. trilema's not a consumer good, the consumer's at trilema's convenience.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343350 << she. the linked piece was, iirc, written by gurl
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 14:34:01; mircea_popescu: and maybe a whole raft of "choices" he "made" by "himself" are the cause of his poverty, through the proxy of his indescribable stupidity.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343356 << actually having dedicated barns for the cows, with proper milking hardware, is the Right Thing
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 14:40:13; mircea_popescu: heh. and alf blames colleges. looky here alfie : without the college scams, these schmucks would go to youtube to be fleeced.
ascii_field: whereas having them in morning traffic (ask a fella from india. 'brake inspector!1111') is not.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343365 << i thought it was a wallet-dust/'coin taint track' usgtron
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 14:50:52; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "|Today social media spamming service Changetip in a bid to generate revenue from users is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee." <<< you mean "In a bid to generate revenue the social media spamming service Changetip is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee today. As people actually involved in Bitcoin might remember, the 1% fee exists as a Schelling point mostl
nubbins`: you mean "in a bid to generate revenue, the social..."
mircea_popescu: so i do.
nubbins`: changetip, lel
nubbins`: someone tried tipping me ten cents on reddit once for a comment they deemed insightful
nubbins`: imagine interacting with other human beings and one of them hands you a dime when you say something
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo no le gusta los commas
ascii_field: nubbins`: a dime with a rope glued on
nubbins`: now this social impossibility can be achieved electronically, through the wonders of the internet
nubbins`: ascii_field a hollow dime with a ?? inside
ascii_field: well... more like a dime with radio beacon glued on
ascii_field: but anyway
nubbins`: splitting hairs here
nubbins`: i gotta go to fedex
nubbins`: incidentally a jan 3 2009 copy of the times sells for 10btc
nubbins`: or whatever
ascii_field: ;;later tell trinque https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/an-introduction-to-kerf << lulzy, reminds me of something you once described
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
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mircea_popescu: ascii_field they have a point. as far as the slave^H^H^H^H^H german is concerned, reminders of the cock up his ass are unwelcome and "toxic" to his emotional well being or w/e
mircea_popescu: iirc that ugly fat woman whatever her name is that rules his germans still hasn't obtained the slightest satisfaction for being gangraped by the ustards.
ascii_field: speaking of mass rape,
ascii_field: 'We give special attention to whether an AV should save lives by sacrificing its owner, and provide insights into (i) the perceived morality of this self-sacrifice, (ii)the willingness to see this self-sacrifice being legally enforced, (iii) the expectations that AVs will be programmed to self-sacrifice, and (iv) the willingness to buy self-sacrificing AVs.'
mircea_popescu: but hey, maybe one day germany improves enough to be russia.
ascii_field: it is no surprise of any kind that usg is obsessed with 'automatic car'.
nubbins`: just think of all the extra shit you could buy/eat while travelling
nubbins`: struck a ped? better blame the mfg/gov
ascii_field: not to mention the wonderful detours
nubbins`: win/win scenario
mircea_popescu: all this wankery. "oh, should it self-sacrifice ???"
ascii_field: (everybody gets to go through the mw radar arch. and if you're flagged, your car will go straight to the crematorium)
mircea_popescu: let's discuss things of import! to be prepared in case a windfaul reaches us, with a game-plan! to save africa!
nubbins`: for whom the booth tolls!
ascii_field: not to mention the low-tech beauty of 'self-driving car accident' as a means of removing troublesome folk
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the problem with this is that nobody in the Housbroken universe actually owns a car.
mircea_popescu: seen that film btw ? pretty great indictment of ustardian/white youth
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: owns as in outright, no outstanding loan.
ascii_field: EVERYBODY in usaschwitz (with very few exceptions) spends a good chunk of the day in a car
nubbins`: "wild tales" seemed a great indictment of modern argentina, mp might like it
ascii_field: how the car is gotten - is another matter
pete_dushenski: oddly, only the poorest 'own' car. ($500 beater)
mircea_popescu: coupla 20something kids that anyone simply wants to see raped to death. they're the couch surfing, biking, "creative" minds of the tomorrow / "economies of scale of being youtube famous meaning not famous"
nubbins`: general idea is to "buy" new car before old car is actually owned by you
ascii_field: that marvel of precision engineering, the car that promptly falls apart after the last credit payment, is a fairly recent invention
ascii_field: but sop for something like a decade now, yes
nubbins`: mp you know the 20somethings are the antiheroes in that movie yes?
nubbins`: i.e. the target audience is rooting for them and against mean old dad?
nubbins`: !up ascii_field
nubbins`: because why we gotta get a job man this sux
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's exactly my point. none of those schmucks has a car.
nubbins`: well it's also a danny devito movie
mircea_popescu: more importantly, none of those schmucks is the intellectual equal of "car ownership"
mircea_popescu: forget owning their own women.
nubbins`: which is literally the button right next to "big mac, upsize fries" on the big machine
mircea_popescu: actually playing out a penitentiary inmate irl is a bar they have to prepare for.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: most u.s. folks have (in some sense which involves driving it) a car. of some description.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: waitwut THAT'S the hierarchy ? easier to own woman than car ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you don't fuck teens alf. you have nfi what your country's like.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski mno ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: fair enough
pete_dushenski re-reads.
ascii_field: but where i live, i see even street beggars get into at least a toyota at the end of a long hard day shaking a cup of coins
mircea_popescu: but none of these beggars are 22.
nubbins`: street begging earns ok money
mircea_popescu: the 22 yo beggars are "working hard" at "their social media presence" and don't have access to a car.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aha. these tend to be old grizzled folk
mircea_popescu: and so they're going to the crematorium anyway.
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ascii_field: the 'social media' maggots tend to gravitate to conurbations with good train service, etc
mircea_popescu: just about the magical car you discuss may be at the earlierst delivered
mircea_popescu: they simply tend to gravitate to places where their dismal means to life are sufficient to survive. "oh i couldn't live in kentucky"
mircea_popescu: indeed you couldn't. baby turtles would eat you.
ascii_field: kentucky is not a magical enclave of the economically +ev
ascii_field: (afaik we don't have any such)
nubbins`: in fairness, taping up a couple photocopies around the city isn't a great way to recruit specific talent
mircea_popescu: no, but it is a magical enclave where you gotta be able to find your way out of a paper bag
mircea_popescu: nubbins` a) couple HUNDRED ; b) if i taped up not a couple, a single "jeans and chewing gum" ad in soviet blok, i'd have needed the canadian mounties to keep order.
mircea_popescu: that this shithole doesn't admit it's one step away from poland 1985 doesn't mean it isn't actually one step away from poland 1985
ascii_field: but afaik it has an ordinary cross-section of ameri-bezzle. i.e. you can just as easily warm a chair at lockheed in kentucky as in dc.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field none of these dudes get warm chairs of any kind.
mircea_popescu: they're the leah goodmans of this world. the people you think are what they wish they were, while meanwhile they starve while thinking somehow they're too good for my ten bitcents.
ascii_field: ah - them
ascii_field doesn't spend much time around the certified economically-dead folk
mircea_popescu: yes, them. most everyone that's white and under 30. them.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well specific modelling talent is hard to recruit since it's in high demand.
thestringpuller: particularly in this field.
mircea_popescu: not here.
mircea_popescu: argentina is about as economically dead as you'd expect of a soy & other cash crops exporter.
nubbins`: wtf does argentina have to do with it?
nubbins`: you're on the internet, not on the argentina
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the ads were in argentina doh.
nubbins`: well yes
nubbins`: that's the problem
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: might ar be a candidate to become 'an india' - in the sense of coolie labour on warm chairs with keyboard ..?
nubbins`: i know two argentinian artists. know where they live?
mircea_popescu: so wait, let me get this straight. when i want ascii to move here he can't because HE needs meatwot.
nubbins`: not argentina
thestringpuller: But it's not really an economics problem. Game artists are borderline cultists...a game artist will work for free for say Nintendo just cause it's nintendo...
mircea_popescu: when i want to hire the useless shitsacks perambulating in buenos aires, they don't need me. becuase... internet.
mircea_popescu: let's play this game where I use the argument both ways and nobody uses the counter-argument both ways against me
mircea_popescu: because I am the capitalist.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: laugh all you like, but i went & found a new gig the 'mainstream' way, sans meatwot
nubbins`: you want to hire useless shitsacks?
mircea_popescu: so ; ascii moves because internet ; argentine shitsacks are stuck because meatwot.
mircea_popescu: not vice-fucking-versa.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i did advertise to argentines, right ?
ascii_field: (but new gig is still a bezzlatronic thing that doesn't exist in ar)
nubbins`: not really, you taped a bunch of flyers to outdoor walls.
mircea_popescu: you ever been here ?
nubbins`: close
nubbins`: but not
mircea_popescu: yeah well, then on what basis to you propose to put forth subtlety-based arguments such as that ?
mircea_popescu: for all you know the two are identical. in point of fact they are identical.
nubbins`: on the basis that nobody anywhere in the world advertises for a position more involved than daycare in this manner
ascii_field: also iirc mircea_popescu didn't hire people ?
nubbins`: and while i've not lived many places, i've visited plenty
nubbins`: talented people don't bother reading wheatpasted "help wanted" ads
thestringpuller: I think mircea_popescu underestimates the amount of effort that goes into tayloring game art skills.
nubbins`: that's how the penniless search for help
mircea_popescu: ascii_field thestringpuller allow me to drag in the stalin and other people's fat thing.
nubbins`: the simple fact that you advertised in that manner means nobody qualified is gonna bother reading to the contact info
mircea_popescu: nubbins` again, how the fuck would ytou know ?
nubbins`: because i'm a self-aware adult who lives in the world?
mircea_popescu: don't tell me YOU're the one that's fucking argentine art school majors ?
mircea_popescu: no, you aren't.
nubbins`: but hey, it's not like you need my advice. you seem to have a good handle on advertising for all your ventures O.O
mircea_popescu: the bar for "self-aware adult who lives in the world" is so fuycking high i don't think i'm necessarily there.
nubbins`: MP punching a loaf of bread with a quarter ham: "these idiot ingredients don't make a good sandwich"
mircea_popescu: you're an above-average canadina living in canada. readily granted, but the world is not canada.
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nubbins`: in fairness i've only been to maybe a dozen countries
mircea_popescu: in fairness.
nubbins`: but nowhere approaches talent recruitment with this level of retardation
mircea_popescu: "been to" is when you live there, with local women.
mircea_popescu: tourist bs dun count for shit.
nubbins`: but again, keep trying yr current approach
nubbins`: it'll eventually work
nubbins`: and if not, it's 100% because of everyone else
nubbins`: not because taping a flyer to a wall is the shittest way of doing what you're trying to do
mircea_popescu: looky, you don't get to misrepresent what you hear on the basis of how stupid the parts of it that you understood seemed to you.
nubbins`: you know mp is running out of patience when he gets to "looky" and "you don't get"
ascii_field: can we do stalin and fat before mircea_popescu forgets why ?
nubbins`: you don't get to pretend taping shit to a wall makes sense.
nubbins`: "the people will notice it's not the turd it seems"
nubbins`: uh huh
mircea_popescu: taping shit to a wall has a longer history than canada.
nubbins`: that's the qualifier now?
mircea_popescu: not that that particular stupidity is too well related to the other stupidities.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field sure. what about it ?
nubbins`: usa has a longer history than canada, see where that's got em
mircea_popescu: nubbins` this is where you notice that you said something dumb and realise that maybe the other things you said come from the same place.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343602 << maybe i'm thick, but not sure how it plugs in
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 18:50:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field thestringpuller allow me to drag in the stalin and other people's fat thing.
nubbins`: hey, that's the next best thing to actually claiming that yr approach to recruitment makes sense
nubbins`: remember when leah goodman chose dorian nakamoto because he was the only satoshi within driving distance?
mircea_popescu: there exist people in this world who are economically worthless because they are argentines. giving them an opportunity to starve so as to work for me, a guy that isn't economically worthless for being argentine, is a -ev play for most and a +ev play for some.
mircea_popescu: exactly the stalin approach.
ascii_field: nubbins`: where i live, posters on telephone poles are pretty much exclusively for classical scams (ponzi, 'sell house quick', 'work to save the earth!111', etc)
nubbins`: remember when you put up a bunch of flyers in b.a because it was the only city within driving distance?
mircea_popescu: "ethereum"
nubbins`: ascii_field mp doesn't realize this
ascii_field: items which even the fishwrap would not print
mircea_popescu: nubbins` ba is a city with more population than the whole country you live in omfg.
nubbins`: despite being worldly
ascii_field: but i do not think this is true in ba
nubbins`: mircea_popescu so..?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field whart do you mean not true in ba! all places are the same places! all peopel are really the same as nubbins!
mircea_popescu: EVERYTHING IS THE SAME!
nubbins`: i lived in seoul, 21mn people in metro area. know who's advertising on the poles?
ascii_field saw a great many things on placards in ba
mircea_popescu: sure makes thinking one "self aware of the world" a shithell of a heck easier.
nubbins`: strip clubs and diet pills
mircea_popescu: nubbins` seoul is a motherfucking rich place omfg.
nubbins`: lule
ascii_field: nubbins`: in ba, at least as far as my naked eye could see, it was mostly whores.
nubbins`: is it?
ascii_field: but (afaik) perfectly honest ones
mircea_popescu: i don't think you actually understand how poor these people are.
nubbins`: i don't think you actually understand how many people in seoul make a living picking grubs out of trees, boiling them, and selling them in little paper cups w/ a toothpick
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mircea_popescu: why the fuck does that make a difference ? "because all people are people" ?
nubbins`: it's a rich place like nyc is a rich place
nubbins`: you're struggling to string a point together here
mircea_popescu: the argument here isn't that some unrelated people are poor. the argument here is that the very fucking people in question don't have fifty pesos.
nubbins`: what are you saying, the talent exists in b.a?
ascii_field: 'The Bitcoin community had a huge opportunity to help shape ChangeTip into something beautiful to use to help bitcoin adoption forward, and largely has allowed negativity to consume this possibility.' << l0ltr0nic
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i am saying that if i rouded up all the 10k or so computer art majors in town and gave them the choice of paying me 100k in cash or dying in a fire
mircea_popescu: they couldn't get the 100k together.
nubbins`: and i am saying that you've gone the polar opposite of "rounding up all the 10k".
nubbins`: you've rounded up all the 0.
mircea_popescu: and you know this because you feel things.
nubbins`: i know this because nobody bothered reading your ads
thestringpuller: don't think poor people are best adapted for working in 3DS Max/Maya given the time investment, plus the cost of the software.
mircea_popescu: "no, i know this because i can fit explanations ex post facto as well as alf used to can"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i don't want to work with people who pay "for software" in this sense anyway.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: 'cost of the software' ?!!!! ya trying to make me die of laugh ?
nubbins`: dat invention of hypotheticals as a retort
nubbins`: posting flyers in b.a is about as sensible as posting a wanted at on derpstalk forum
mircea_popescu: and you know this because...
nubbins`: for reasons which i cannot begin to fathom, you seem to not equate these two things
thestringpuller: oops meant cost of hardware to run said software*
nubbins`: mp you know the opposite because, what? some random chick tells you "yeah this is how people find work here"
nubbins`: thumbsup.svg
mircea_popescu: this is besides the point. i am not held to justify what i do to you.
nubbins`: no indeed, you're not.
mircea_popescu: you wish to judge what i do, you'd god damned better have some footing to stand on.
ascii_field digs in logz in mostly-futile search of what this whole thing was about
ascii_field: mircea_popescu was trying to hire a level designer ?
nubbins`: although since you've spent what, 20 minutes defending this foolishness
nubbins`: it seems you do feel some urge to justify what you've done
nubbins`: if for no other reason than to pull some strips of cloth over the naked lameness of it
mircea_popescu: mno. i just answer to random idiots derping on in here, because of a naive and perhaps misplaced notion that they'll learn something from the experience.
ascii_field may have learned something
nubbins`: well, the saying goes: "naive in one area means naive in no others"
nubbins`: you're prob right about the flyers thing
mircea_popescu: but i appreciate the "well since mom and dad filled the fridge clearly they have a responsibility to explai nto me why i should get a job".
mircea_popescu: it's so wordly and self-aware it enarly burns.
nubbins`: i think your analogy generator needs a tune-up
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Came from @changetip.com email addy
nubbins`: maybe when mp moves to ulaan baatar, he can write "eulorum.org help wanted" on the side of a camel and run it through town
jurov: hahaha i for one did the effort of pulling game dev/artist to #eulora. he was very weirded out of whole situation and bailed out of the job, i had to compile stuff myself. i can't at all imagine him reacting to some pole-stuck pulp
jurov: btw,he was indeed living in some hole near ukr border
mircea_popescu: he was very weirded out of whole situation and bailed out of the job << can we has detail ?
nubbins`: i've got a friend who did some 3d modelling & textures for the Ender's Game movie
jurov: i did not get any further explanation
jurov: other than "busy"
asciilifeform: somebody +v ascii_field por favor, he can't reach the button
adlai: !up asciilifeform
adlai: !up ascii_field
ascii_field finally noticed that trilema is back and that subj is a recent post, l0l
nubbins`: feel free to re-read log
nubbins`: offer comments on why flyers are retarded if you dare
jurov: anyway. since bsas is million metropol, there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate
ascii_field cannot answer this, but will say that he did not observe any 'help wanteds' for pr0gramm3rz in ba placards
ascii_field: perhaps they have a trade publication where work is offered
jurov: so i'd make a presentation at such place
ascii_field: but i'll be the first to say that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a!
ascii_field: or i'd be there now, forfucksake
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jurov: meeting them in flesh should overcome their problems with unusuallness or whatevs
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adlai: the whole subreddit infighting is almost too bizarre
kakobrekla: lol 'this assrape is terrible!!' 'stfu you arent engaging positively!!'
ascii_field: adlai: next do we get to learn about the infighting of rats in the new york sewer ?
ascii_field: betcha there are first-class stories to be told.
ascii_field: if only rats could speak.
shinohai: http://archive.is/x5UP6 <<< bitcoin phoundation lolz
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adlai dashes off to register ratt.it
ascii_field: shinohai: afaik the old corpse is just that - mit is the new phoundation
adlai: lol, you have one try to guess where this leads... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rattit
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thestringpuller: We all laugh at MIT until they create synths after the great war.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> i've got a friend who did some 3d modelling & textures for the Ender's Game movie << and the eulora splashscreen was done by jason juta (ie, the guy that did half the wizards of the coast franchise). and yes, i could employ him (at his very reasonable rates) to do the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: i won't. because i'm not spending money that way, and i don't give a shit what the needs of whatever art derp are.
mircea_popescu: he can starve to serve me and then i might consider him. before that he can get fucked.
mircea_popescu: i need him like i need more hair. he needs me like he needs more food.
ascii_field sometimes wonders if mircea_popescu does the 'nail in a coffin and float'em down the river as test of faith' thing also
mircea_popescu: and none of this is going to be changed by discussing around the bush.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no, mircea_popescu simply does not give a shit.
ascii_field: well inspired by the 'starve to serve me' thing
ascii_field: but yeah, this whole thing is kinda replay of the old 'soviet vs roman army' thread, aha
mircea_popescu: <jurov> other than "busy" << mmmkay.
jurov: actually now i remember he did not like any responsibility, like, gpg signing the releases
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> offer comments on why flyers are retarded if you dare << besides the fucking point, really. i don't think they're not retarded. nevertheless, to the people who fail to take advantage of this, that failure is just another added failure.
mircea_popescu: i understand "we"'d "all" love to be excused from the failures list, but that's not how it works.
ascii_field also recalls the rental agency with btc private keys on placards thread
mircea_popescu: jurov> anyway. since bsas is million metropol, there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate <<< yes but apparently they go in there thought the window not the door ; cant read in any case and anyway - too busy doing nothing to do soemthing useful
mircea_popescu: particularly because how dares this asshole to discern between useful and useless in the vast world full of possibilities which shouldn't be discriminated against or someshit.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> perhaps they have a trade publication where work is offered <<< you're thinking europe. think kirgizstan.
ascii_field thinks kirgizstan
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> but i'll be the first to say that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a! << you mean webwork. what else ?
ascii_field: and mircea_popescu still wonders how come i haven't moved ?
mircea_popescu: <jurov> meeting them in flesh should overcome their problems with unusuallness or whatevs << not from experience. meeting idiots in the flesh doesn't make them less idiotic, just puts them in a better position to waste your time.
jurov: well. so you want artist that is both not an idiot and reads pole pulp
jurov: gl
mircea_popescu: ascii_field again : i expect that all arguments work both sides for me and for me only. you, you don't need meatwot can go wherever. the argentine derp, can not use internet, may not leave country.
mircea_popescu: not the other way around.
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't want anything.
mircea_popescu: this isn't about me selling. this is about me buying.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: possibly the hidden gotcha is that internet hasn't been invented yet on my planet. (i.e. folks offering the sort of work that i do, demand at least occasional physical chair parade)
mircea_popescu: possibly.
ascii_field: i could speculate re: ~why~ (short version: it's what usa has instead of a berlin wall - otherwise mass exodus of programmers etc. to cheapo banana republics)
ascii_field: (another tricky bit is that one of the things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and this is difficult to monitor without on-site chair)
mircea_popescu: this is probably a major factor, really.
ascii_field has been pondering subj for many years
ascii_field: but the most basic thing, afaik, is simple capital control
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> shinohai: afaik the old corpse is just that - mit is the new phoundation <<< seems that way.
ascii_field: (omfg they might take their bezzle dollars and bid up the cost of turkeys in shitholistan where we need'em cheap)
ascii_field: the cheapness of turkeys/whores/petro/etc in shitholistans is a ~natural resource~, like any other thermodynamic gradient. and you don't get to ride the gradient just by asking, just like a random schmuck doesn't get to ride soviet plutonium just for asking.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to the more general point here : i'm the only entity that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like this", because the point isn't for me to get something done, the point is for me to change the way things are done in the first place.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field quite.
ascii_field: which is why i say 'mircea_popescu wake me up plz when you've transmuted the x to a y'
mircea_popescu: which is why you gotta move. always go against the gradients/.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field by the time that's done, my dear alf, everyone who's still asleep ain't never waking up again.
mircea_popescu: that much you can take to the wallet.
ascii_field: well i'd happily move if i were 1337 enough to take the gradient, rather than BE the fuel
mircea_popescu: that part makes sense.
mircea_popescu: it's also annoying.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 06:06:39; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323735 << i would happily move to the ar where mircea_popescu lives, but i will happily be shot in the head three times before i move to the ar where the argentines live.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the difference between "not work for competition" and "capital control" is inexistent - the us is a centrally controlled economy just like the su. and so, the soviets couldn't leave because "the state invested in their education", right ?
ascii_field: aha precisely same mechanism
ascii_field: 'yer meat and you stay in this here fence'
mircea_popescu: well, in order for the system to collapse it must be made to bleed.
mircea_popescu: in order for it to bleed ions need to go against gradient.
mircea_popescu: that's all.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343805 << for my education: what would such 'bleeding' look like ?
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 19:43:10; mircea_popescu: well, in order for the system to collapse it must be made to bleed.
ascii_field: (or, in other words, what precisely is it that said system could not afford to lose ?)
mircea_popescu: every time i talk to one of my chinese bankers here, moving some dollar bits against peso bits, both the argentine government and the us government bleed a little.
mircea_popescu: every time you leave the us, and continue to extract dollars from the us which however the usg can't tax, and spend them in kirgiztan, but so the kirgiztan also cant' tax, both bleed a little.
mircea_popescu: every time you take a 19yo that'd have made someone a great wife and you make her a great whore, the system bleeds a little.
ascii_field: eh there remain many megatonnes of fat to be trimmed from plebes like asciilifeform , ben_vulpes , et al before the usg ruling caste bleeds
mircea_popescu: the more you live, the less life's left for them.
mircea_popescu: so go, live.
mircea_popescu: the rest doesn't really matter.
mircea_popescu: everytime some derp is "offended" at who knows what offensiveness yet his offense rings impotent, the system dies a little.
ascii_field: this looks quite like folks who explained their gold/watches/dollars bootleg ops in moscow as 'help sink the stinking su faster !111'
mircea_popescu: exactly what it was.
ascii_field not convinced that the gnats killed the elephant
mircea_popescu: every shot policeman, every dollar embezzled, witheld from the irs, every subpar item delivered to the usg, everything.
mircea_popescu: they all add together and then one day, suddenly, the "old way of life" is an impossibility.
mircea_popescu: and nobody knows which gnats killed the elephant. "it was just meant to be".
mircea_popescu: historical imperative, as they say.
ascii_field cannot deny that sufficiently many straws will break camel's back. but this might take a while.
mircea_popescu: for as long as you're part of the solution, it taking a while is no detriment.
mircea_popescu: this is in fact how you know that you're part of the solution.
ascii_field: meanwhile, at the l0lfactory,
ascii_field: 'Which makes me suspicious, and I have no evidence, just an opinion that there seems to be a powerful force behind these guys like btcdrak, petertodd, etc., like perhaps that jdillon guy, who seems to be directing their actions. If you read some old leaks of jdillon chat with ptodd you can see that all/most of the stuff they are now publicly pushing were suggested by him, including the flexicap nonsense which gmax tried
ascii_field: to suggest in the 2nd [censored] conference.'
ascii_field: oh, unrelatedly,
ascii_field: 'A C++ module that generates maps procedurally is required for Eulora. In this first iteration, the idea of a "map" reduces to "a folded corridor 3 x 3 units in square section". Folding means that the corridor may curve however you please (provided it's continuous, contains no volumes smaller than 3x3 units and no inclines over 10%) and run into itself (not necessarily at right angles).' << this is in SWAG !!!
ascii_field: classical algo
mircea_popescu: do you mind ?
ascii_field: actually i was wrong
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it was in my personal collection. http://dpaste.com/0X9J5QN
assbot: dpaste: 0X9J5QN ... ( http://bit.ly/1TO8e8v )
BingoBoingo: Cambodia?
mircea_popescu: pr tjat/
mircea_popescu: or that*
BingoBoingo: Cambodia seems like interesting place to consider relocation. May be a stalinist hell hole, but doesn't seems like that bad of one.
mircea_popescu: jsut as along as oyu're a guy.
ascii_field: !s brass pole in bangkok
assbot: 1 results for 'brass pole in bangkok' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=brass+pole+in+bangkok
ascii_field: ^ related
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funkenstein_: greetings y'all
funkenstein_: i thought every time you did anything which valued a fiat token, no matter what, it benefitted the counterfeitters thereof
jurov: incl. wiping the ass?
nubbins`: that's a nice way of putting it
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> (another tricky bit is that one of the things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and this is difficult to monitor without on-site chair) << not many other worker bees i came across in the trenches realized this, to their detriment
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343790 << oh, i get it. so you're trying to bring job recruitment into the photocopy-taped-to-wall era
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 19:38:05; mircea_popescu: anyway, to the more general point here : i'm the only entity that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like this", because the point isn't for me to get something done, the point is for me to change the way things are done in the first place.
nubbins`: when you put it like that, it makes more sense
mircea_popescu: nubbins` wouldja stop trying to salvage the "i'm derpy from derpland and i know of things i've never seen because totallies" ? it's dead.
nubbins`: be sure to tape all 4 sides so they're harder to rip down
mircea_popescu: some other interesting datapoints : back in the 90s, cluj, a 400k ish inhabitant city, had three dedicated ad papers, printed weekly. together ~200 pages, for a yearly thoroughput in the 1mn ads range. so like 2.5 per capita.
mircea_popescu: buenos aires, a thing worth 30x that many inhabitants, has no dedicated ad paper, and never detectably had. the thoroughput is negligible, as in not even 0.001 per capita.
mircea_popescu: they also don't exist on craigslist or backpage.
mircea_popescu: and in general... the point here is that argentines are retarded, in a very palpable, amply demonstrable sense.
mircea_popescu: not that nubbins is in the poster printing business and in the self-loathing mental space, so he thinks posters are a bad idea.
nubbins`: posters are a great idea for me, not so much for others
mircea_popescu: right right.
mircea_popescu: "real" posters.
mircea_popescu: dja know enough about psychology to see what this all is or notrly ?
nubbins`: well i don't print fake ones so yeah!
assbot: The US government is training kids to be fat | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1NnYtw2 )
nubbins`: you'd have had better luck giving the eulora flyers to 20yearohio and the bitcoin posters pasted up in b.a
BingoBoingo: Ok, now I've stumbled into peak reddit https://archive.is/0JORi
assbot: All the single ladies ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZaDH8i )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128300 @ 0.00048398 = 62.0946 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "Later loss of virginity associated with significantly lower relationship dissatisfaction later on in life, higher educational attainment, and higher household income, but also lower likelihood of marriage and number of romantic relationships"
mircea_popescu: sounds like they got the right idea.
mircea_popescu: "Does anyone get positive feedback on their looks on the Internet but not irl?" heh.
mircea_popescu: "I am a downer most of the time, I'm not outgoing, not funny, not talkative. The only thing I have is my average intelligence. Being depressed makes you not want to do anything. The medication I'm taking doesn't even make me feel better sometimes. I hate that when you're unattractive or below average you have to wield so many positive traits just to get someone to like you. Attractive people get to be mediocre."
mircea_popescu: bwahgahaha!
mircea_popescu: oh... i know... she should have the vote!
BingoBoingo: "Last time I went I saw a few beautiful girls (something I'd never see close to at home) and it made me so extremely depressed that it ruined the whole trip (I went with family). It legitimately makes me depressed when I see super pretty girls like that; I just feel like a completely inferior subhuman. I'm ok with regular hot girls for some reason. I even had some hot friends in school. It's different when the girl is ethereally b
BingoBoingo: eautiful. Some of them literally look photoshopped in person."
mircea_popescu: why does she think feeling like a completely inferior subhuman is bad ?
mircea_popescu: "I'm FA everywhere. When I lived in a big, glamorous city, I was too ugly and fat for anyone to even consider dating. Now that I'm in a smaller place, with lots of fat and/or unattractive people, I'm more highly educated than the vast majority of men, so I'm still FA."
mircea_popescu: she's too classy, and besides : these men don't even watch cheers!
BingoBoingo: sanity "I have a kind of morbid curiosity. I subscribe to rateme, amisexy, uglyduckling, MUA, prettygirls, and so many more just to see how attractive some girls are and how they're treated by men. Seeing their perfect faces weirdly makes me feel more at peace with the world- like I know my place."
mircea_popescu: wonder how many of the people there are kids having fun.
BingoBoingo: hard to say
assbot: Being a trans lesbian/pansbian who is pre-transition and in the closet sucks. : LGBTForeverAlone ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZaEqGE )
mircea_popescu: what\sd a panspian ? she fucks ducks ?
mircea_popescu: or just goats ?
mircea_popescu: or is pan there from pan trogolodytes ? she fucks chimps ?
BingoBoingo: Prolly groats
mircea_popescu: now i gotta make an okcupid acct, see what the fatties are like.
BingoBoingo: Gotta pick a location.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: wrote his own implementation of a* ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123850 @ 0.00048247 = 59.7539 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67850 @ 0.0004791 = 32.5069 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105100 @ 0.00048441 = 50.9115 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 461.98, vol: 18883.48825688 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 456.932, vol: 13401.76953 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 464.99, vol: 38231.64640448 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 440.0, vol: 5.11919016 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 474.347448, vol: 108031.41440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 454.0, vol: 94.42190499 | Volume-weighted last average: 469.719426707
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44350 @ 0.0004791 = 21.2481 BTC [-]
deedbot-: [Qntra] Corpse of Vessenes' Fundnation Expels Janssens From Board - http://qntra.net/2015/12/corpse-of-vessenes-fundnation-expels-janssens-from-board/
BingoBoingo: ;;google mike hearn workout
gribble: Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding 12-Week Training Program: <http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mike-ohearn-power-bodybuilding-12-week-training-program.html>; Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding: The 12-Week Program: <http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mike-ohearn-power-bodybuilding-12-week-program.html>; Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding : Chest - YouTube: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ^ Courtesy adventures in Google autocomplete
mircea_popescu: so this okcupid thing has a thing where you answer premade questions (apparently there was a feature to add questions but they scuttled it silently, over time). leaving aside the questions are almost universally fucking dumb,
mircea_popescu: it's lead me to discover that i really don't give a shit. you gotta specify what "answers you'll accept" and 90% i'm like... whatever.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what people think already.
mircea_popescu: then the site bitches about how getting whatever as an answer doesn't help it select matches. what the fuck am i to do ?! care ?!
BingoBoingo: The site bitches about everything. It's an IAC property. It's what they do.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52550 @ 0.0004854 = 25.5078 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Passive Aggressive Lying Buttersack - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0j5vL )
assbot: Young white men are the most derided group in Britain, study finds - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0k533 )
BingoBoingo: "They also have the joint worst score, with young black Caribbean men, for a belief that they are prone to drug-taking."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48342 @ 0.0004791 = 23.1607 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57458 @ 0.00047853 = 27.4954 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up justanotheruser
BingoBoingo: Oh look, all the old people working on piggyback altcoins want forks nao https://twitter.com/SDLerner/status/676899213121310720
mircea_popescu: the irony being that bitcoin going to shit wouldn't resolve all the numerous problems all the shitcoins have
mircea_popescu: it WOULD however resolve the only problem the shitheads involved ~perceive~
mircea_popescu: so very ustardian, their approach.
BingoBoingo: Pissstream, nao rootstock, where do these fuckers end
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124689 @ 0.00047851 = 59.6649 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Sergio Lerner: "1) I'm finalizing a BIP: A new Efficient Compact SPV Proof scheme. A chain of 2016 hdrs can be compressed into 10 hdrs, proving 50% of work. / 2) This will be key piece for 2-way-peg system we (Rootstock) contribute to Bitcoin, via hard-fork. / 3) Yes, can also be soft-fork." : Bitco ... ( http://bit.ly/1QnQwei )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72850 @ 0.00048184 = 35.102 BTC [+] {2}
adlai: http://bit.ly/1QnQwei << archive.is/ception
mircea_popescu: i suppose every nigger gotta add his own hardfork out there now, it's the new hip thing. you ain't nobody if you ain't hardforkin'!
mircea_popescu: fucking monkeys.
mircea_popescu: can't california just fall into the ocean already and spare me the rest of the popcult story ?
mircea_popescu: i didn't care for proletcult either, and somehow i don't seem to be missing having missed out on that either.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69300 @ 0.00048015 = 33.2744 BTC [-]
nubbins`: hardforks are the new altcoins
nubbins`: i can't believe it's not bitcoin
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for the 'dekulakization' altcoins
asciilifeform: i.e. 'bitcoin but i get to move satoshi's coin' etc
mircea_popescu: you don;t properly grok how the ustardian mind works. you see, it's gotta be meta to be real.
mircea_popescu: it can't be something pointful, meaningful, "i get to move satoshi's stash".
mircea_popescu: it's gotta be some sort of useless, pointless derpage.
asciilifeform: i suppose asylum contains both napoleon ~and~ the i'm-a-glass-of-water types
asciilifeform: i can more readily grasp the napoleon, yes
nubbins`: the i'm-a-glass-of-water requires salvia divinorum
nubbins`: (cannot recommend the experience)
nubbins`: now there's a weird drug
nubbins`: hallucinogen that acts on opioid receptors
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117000 @ 0.00048453 = 56.69 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: think of it in terms of, being a very mediocre, fat woman that was writing code. lotta goto's, the ocasional for-loop-by-hand, and no passing by reference.
asciilifeform: funnily it is (or at least once was) entirely legal in usa
mircea_popescu: the kids internalized the "what would it happen if EVERYONE did that" playground "adult" thinking, and now live by it.
mircea_popescu: so they won't make an altcoin that makes YOU be able to do something, because "you" is undefined. instead... make an altcoin that "saves africa". that, ANYONE could do.
mircea_popescu: and since anyone could do, everyone should do, so why aren't you.
asciilifeform: i still cannot properly grasp what moves these folks
mircea_popescu: same thing that moves the dust.
mircea_popescu: a guy named brown.
danielpbarron: nubbins`> the i'm-a-glass-of-water requires salvia divinorum << haha yes. I was once a wood floor in this regard
TheNewDeal: where's the mpex tax code listed
TheNewDeal: or the address for taxable income
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal it's on the foundation page all listed nicely
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZPY9X )
TheNewDeal: i'm getting archived, is that ok?
TheNewDeal: I believe I owe back taxes from my bets
mircea_popescu: so go pay.
TheNewDeal: I'm in fear of the address being hijacked
mircea_popescu: there's a signed thing in there.
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7IMfU )
TheNewDeal: I believe they've unmugglized me
TheNewDeal: some wacky science occurred not too long after I made said transaction
mircea_popescu: 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 is in 00000000000000000222de4462f77457d37d1b16f3c92688dc7087106f27fda0 / aa8ff7e8e554cdbf4b95b3b4b24e70246afdc6adee250fb51012914bcede3640
mircea_popescu: what exactly do you mean ?
TheNewDeal: brain experiments
TheNewDeal: mass shifting of neural anatomy
TheNewDeal: and I'm in fear of being asylumed in my home country
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171650 @ 0.00047888 = 82.1998 BTC [-] {8}
TheNewDeal: I'm stranded in central usia and I'm fearing some sort of sham court case apparating
mircea_popescu: so go to cancun ?
TheNewDeal: like a test trip to see if they allow me to pass through the border?
mircea_popescu: no, like a fuck you and your stupid shithole trip.
TheNewDeal: I've got to see if they allow a tax payment, I can't find that address from the foundation website
danielpbarron: TheNewDeal, 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9
mircea_popescu: "i paid my taxes to these people that lol at you, problem ???"
mircea_popescu: o look who's where.
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
mircea_popescu: how's whoring ?
indiancandy1: my boo
indiancandy1: the pussy aint 4 sale daddy
indiancandy1: i want to get some softwares Rat, Ddos, Cookie stealer…
mircea_popescu: haha what ?
indiancandy1: u know anything
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to do again ?
indiancandy1: some hacking stuff
indiancandy1: i wanna learn
indiancandy1: right anyway
indiancandy1: mp hows the btc market
mircea_popescu: going up, apparently.
indiancandy1: and ur other adventures?
mircea_popescu: anyway, "hacking" is not a thing, it's the byproduct of knowing how to program computers. which you can learn, like anything else, provided you got the patience.
indiancandy1: ur right
TheNewDeal: I think they're unconvered some equipment from the mines
TheNewDeal: they're trying to reverse this whole bitcoin economy
TheNewDeal: the powers that be, the central control
mircea_popescu: have you been doin' anything laterly TheNewDeal ?
TheNewDeal: I have been struggling to stay afloat in the Usian ship
TheNewDeal: I've been trying to go out to the bars and enjoy some music
indiancandy1: thats good
indiancandy1: its always good to get out
indiancandy1: n enjoy outside world
TheNewDeal: but I think they've got some sort of tracking program on me. Weaponry that can induce a false schizophrenia
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i mean, any psychotropics.
TheNewDeal: thc, cbd
TheNewDeal: but I think they've tried to slip me drugs to admit to crimes that haven't occurred
mircea_popescu: yeah. they do that a lot.
indiancandy1: thc is in wed
TheNewDeal: I need a break from this mess and I'm in fear they're trying to recruit me
mircea_popescu: to slip people drugs to get them to admit to crimes that haven't occurred ?
TheNewDeal: yes - it's all counterintuitive
TheNewDeal: it's like the state machine tries to churn out criminals
TheNewDeal: I'm trying to stay apolitical and it's backfiring. The state is becoming politically charged
mircea_popescu: well... take it easy, don't fuck any goats...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46864 @ 0.00047725 = 22.3658 BTC [-] {2}
TheNewDeal: did the tax payment go through?
mircea_popescu: check it out, teh republic got 10 btcs.
danielpbarron: 10 btc is 0.1% of your profits?
mircea_popescu: he must've killed it with the bitbets.
TheNewDeal: I'm in fear.
indiancandy1: dont be
indiancandy1: move to russia
mircea_popescu: that's where you are ?
TheNewDeal: I'm trying to get protection from people who can lend any help. I tried to send one to the mines
indiancandy1: who me?
mircea_popescu: yes you.
indiancandy1: london babe
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal to the what ?
TheNewDeal: the mines
mircea_popescu: what mines ?!
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7IMfU )
TheNewDeal: I looked up a miner from blockchain,info
TheNewDeal: a big miner
TheNewDeal: and now I think they're trying to make me look like a chinese spy or something
indiancandy1: this guy is on coke
TheNewDeal: no coke
TheNewDeal: cigarettes
indiancandy1: why so para babe
mircea_popescu: you think someone's going to do what ?
TheNewDeal: I think they're trying to criminalize me
TheNewDeal: plant a crime on me
mircea_popescu: the miner is ?
TheNewDeal: I can't remember which one
TheNewDeal: I searched for the top miners on organofcorti's website
TheNewDeal: I sent it in a panicked state
asciilifeform sees this nonsense, goes back to reading the lovingly detailed blueprints of t-34 he found
indiancandy1: right mp i need some advice
indiancandy1: i wanna finance a game
indiancandy1: so when u launch ur games how do u choose
indiancandy1: which ones to put money on
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal eh, have some tea and relax. nobody gives a shit you went on some website and searched for shit from some other weebsite.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 good team, good idea, it's complicated.
TheNewDeal: the US tax law can't handle these transactions
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-12-2015#1344037 << invest in a motherfucking spectrum analyzer.
assbot: Logged on 16-12-2015 02:20:50; TheNewDeal: but I think they've got some sort of tracking program on me. Weaponry that can induce a false schizophrenia
asciilifeform: be the first.
indiancandy1: do you outsorce
TheNewDeal: I don't even know who I sent it to - that's basically unreportable
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71000 @ 0.00047725 = 33.8848 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 notrly.
indiancandy1: outsource
indiancandy1: u use argentina
mircea_popescu: i use slave labour for the most part.
indiancandy1: but what country
hanbot: marlboro?
mircea_popescu: wherever i happen to be.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you wanna invest in a game, why not go play eulora. danielpbarron will show you the ropes if you show him yours.
danielpbarron: I can pay you to work for me yes
indiancandy1: i got no ropes babe
indiancandy1: pay me 2 work 4 u
indiancandy1: daniel
mircea_popescu: he's been doing that, has a regular stable of noobs going from what i gather.
mircea_popescu: pun intended.
danielpbarron: you gotta get that key from Mr. Dunne though
mircea_popescu: ahhh, homebaked muffins and iced milk coffee...
indiancandy1: so does playing this game eaern
danielpbarron: ranges from 300k to 2 mn per hour depending on the activity
mircea_popescu: yes, you could get your very first bitcents
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron wow no shit ? 2mn ? that's like... almost minimum wage ?
danielpbarron: some things can be automated to run while your sleeping
TheNewDeal: those are the tools i'm talking about
TheNewDeal: fake sleeping tools
danielpbarron: that's two orders of trilema credits heh
mircea_popescu: i stand impressed.
indiancandy1: 2mn in pounds is what
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 307.683435, vol: 16449.86999106 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 303.6027405, vol: 12728.35091 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 292.38, vol: 5.11919016 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 317.068096, vol: 105203.31740000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 307.325, vol: 12.28616566 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 309.642805993, vol: 92.64349349 | Volume-weighted last average: 314.638931296
mircea_popescu: like 6 quid.
mircea_popescu: !rated TheNewDeal
assbot: You have not rated TheNewDeal.
mircea_popescu: !rate TheNewDeal 2 Put a decent chunk of change into the Bitcoin Foundation back when it wasn't fashionable yet.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/04cc996ebe31d5bf
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.TheNewDeal.2:72f205feb029a54e96e08dbde50f07860dd069d6aa8b8021f0286fe3999b943a
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for TheNewDeal with note: Put a decent chunk of change into the Bitcoin Foundation back when it wasn't fashionable yet.
TheNewDeal: I think they're going to Shrem me hard for this
mircea_popescu: to shrem ? it's a verb now ?
TheNewDeal: pour a drink out for TheNewDeal when you have a chance
gabrielradio: TheNewDeal set up a dead man's switch
TheNewDeal: I want to see them try to politicize this. I can see it coming and I want to see how they sell out the working man in 2016
TheNewDeal: throw em in jail, lock away the key
TheNewDeal: they think with their mind and send their money unannounced
mircea_popescu: man... politicize what.
TheNewDeal: the battle for money control
TheNewDeal: it's behind all this actual rage pent up across the glove
TheNewDeal: globe
TheNewDeal: I'm locked down on state sponsored medications and they aren't doing a thing
hanbot: TheNewDeal what medications exactly?
TheNewDeal: risperdone and mirtazapine
hanbot: how long've you been on em?
mod6: TheNewDeal: hey, thanks!
TheNewDeal: just a couple weeks.
TheNewDeal: but it's impossible for me to get rid of eating and smoking nonstop
hanbot: TheNewDeal take a walk in a park/forest/beach/etc. don't take your cigarettes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33550 @ 0.00048476 = 16.2637 BTC [+]
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mod6: thx danielpbarron
nubbins`: suggest a movie that isn't a piece of shit
mod6: reservoir dogs ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107950 @ 0.00048601 = 52.4648 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148300 @ 0.00048718 = 72.2488 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00048744 = 16.9629 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <TheNewDeal> but I think they've tried to slip me drugs to admit to crimes that haven't occurred << This was a big motivator in my decision to sobriety. Harder to CIA drug if not already intoxicated.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal mirtazapine and weed is a hell of a combination
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57150 @ 0.00048745 = 27.8578 BTC [+] {4}
danielpbarron: !up morenoh149
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149350 @ 0.00048577 = 72.5497 BTC [-] {2}
danielpbarron: !up morenoh149
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41593 @ 0.00048746 = 20.2749 BTC [+]
morenoh149: why tho
danielpbarron: ah, hello!
morenoh149: !up chiral
morenoh149: !up morenoh149
morenoh149: danielpbarron: just killing time
morenoh149: found this channel mentioned on an old hackernews thread
danielpbarron: ah, which one was that ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7733 @ 0.00048746 = 3.7695 BTC [+] {2}
morenoh149: somthing like `what are the best irc channels`
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 368067 @ 0.00049086 = 180.6694 BTC [+] {6}
danielpbarron: what were some other ones mentioned?
morenoh149: #cyberwizard
morenoh149: ##javascript
morenoh149: well it's not efnet or dalnet
TheNewDeal: morenoh a/s/l?
morenoh149: it's gonna be programming related
danielpbarron: it sounds almost like a joke to include this channel and ##javascript in the same list of "best channels" -- and cyberwizard is a nice cherry on top
assbot: Good IRC channels | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lOjtDl )
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