ben_vulpes is having a blast nesting with the girl. today, we finished scaffolding the builtin to house the dog and spawngear: http://imgur.com/Z9iBUv3
    
    assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LCZlMf )
    
    gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: no comment & looks like fun.
    
    ben_vulpes: don't be chewing tacks over there.
    
    ben_vulpes: previously, lady v put up crushed foam panels on the ceiling, and i installed the seam and crown molding: http://imgur.com/yevDNKh
    
    assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LCZuPN )
    
    ben_vulpes: i'd be irate about all of this value evaporating as soon as i move out of this place, but it's saving me the cost of relocating to a larger apartment next year and the associated switching costs.
    
    ben_vulpes: plus, fun projects with the babe!
    
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    gribble: mikaeldice was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 39 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 22 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mikaeldice> I reinstalled Windows as a dual boot after a couple years of solely Debian so I could play a game..  It felt dirty.
    
    mikaeldice: hey
    
    mikaeldice: I'm on Fedora now..
    
    mikaeldice: see you in 39 weeks :P
    
    asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256443 << which shelf does dog go in ?
    
    assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 04:03:54; *: ben_vulpes is having a blast nesting with the girl. today, we finished scaffolding the builtin to house the dog and spawngear: http://imgur.com/Z9iBUv3
    
    asciilifeform: gonna guess, the oblong one in the right-hand bottom corner ?
    
    ben_vulpes: bottom-right, actually.
    
    ben_vulpes: left
    
    ben_vulpes: leftleftleft
    
    asciilifeform: could fit two long, narrow dogs on the top.
    
    ben_vulpes: or children
    
    asciilifeform: children go in the middle niches, it looks like
    
    asciilifeform: the elder, on the left, younger - right.
    
    asciilifeform: in other nyooz, dulap now behind by 'only' 32 blocks.
    
    ben_vulpes: this guy
    
    ben_vulpes: telling me how to put my own furniture designs to use
    
    asciilifeform: hey dunt look at me, if that were me i'd be filling it up with scrap metal.
    
    asciilifeform had something not entirely unlike this shelf in old flat
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31457 @ 0.0007004 = 22.0325 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    asciilifeform: either scrap, or piles of laserprint so tall and old that the toner unstuck and transferred to adjacent page randomly
    
    asciilifeform would like to learn, before dies, precisely why this happens and what determines how long it takes and where it comes off
    
    asciilifeform also traditionally counts printed circuit boards which are prolly considered by normal people to be fit only for gold reclamation, as 'scrap metal'
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1843 @ 0.00070702 = 1.303 BTC [+]
    
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    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070936 = 5.8168 BTC [+]
    
    ben_vulpes: yes yes.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00069837 = 16.9355 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
    
    gribble: Time since last block: 59 seconds
    
    punkman: https://twitter.com/notch this guy...
    
    assbot: Markus Persson (@notch) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1MVdfeb )
    
    ben_vulpes: what now?
    
    punkman: @SnoopDogg: . @notch Cheer up homeboy! Im gonna have you by tha Doggy Den and we can smoke sum of that sticky n build sum new shit! Uhearme!!!
    
    pete_dushenski: "The old notch.net domain was hosted on an amazon instance I managed myself. It was set up many many years ago, and I was very lazy about doing security or maintenance updates to it. A couple of weeks ago, it went down. I tried to log in, but my security credentials were no longer valid, so I assume it got hacked. Weirdly, the network logs showed very little data coming in or out after it went down, so it doesn
    
    pete_dushenski: ’t seem like it got used as part of a botnet or as a proxy server. This new version is hosted on wordpress.com where I don’t have to worry about anything other than the content. Nice. I like this." << from persson's personal homepage
    
    mircea_popescu: one more idiot, give or take
    
    pete_dushenski: sorta graham level, for whatever that's worth
    
    pete_dushenski: couple $bn in the bank, brain left to rot
    
    pete_dushenski: granting that even making a digital lego is some sort of productive use of one's brain
    
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    assbot: BMW: All Models Electric Within Decade - NASDAQ.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1EsUU77 )
    
    mircea_popescu: "no further need for cars"
    
    mircea_popescu: "have a coffee grinder instead"
    
    punkman: or a broomstick
    
    pete_dushenski: 'self-driving coffee-flavoured broomstick'
    
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    pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/23/nick-littlehales-the-man-who-taught-cristiano-ronaldo-how-to-sleep << coaches for training, eating, sport, why not sleeping ?
    
    assbot: Nick Littlehales: the man who showed Cristiano Ronaldo how to sleep | Russell Jackson | Football | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1JEmZIB )
    
    pete_dushenski: "In his ideal scenario, Littlehales says athletes wouldn’t be banned from having sex before big games (“absolute crap”) but most definitely sleep solo, with partners leaving for a separate room once it’s time to get 40 winks." << whoa whoa whoa, why play pro sports if you're sleeping solo ?
    
    pete_dushenski: it's like, why join the band ?
    
    pete_dushenski: "The number of millionaires in the UK has shot up by 41% over the past five years, with one in 65 adults now classed as having a seven-figure fortune thanks to booming house prices and stock market gains." << y'all brits are rich, innit !
    
    pete_dushenski: please to now accept more syrian refugees, pay higher taxes, etc.
    
    pete_dushenski: "It is not just property ownership that is creating more UK millionaires. While the TV game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? was axed in the UK in 2014, the National Lottery says it has created more than 3,900 individual millionaires since 1994.
    
    pete_dushenski: ^bwahaha. lest you think all the wealth is illusory !
    
    pete_dushenski: omg that's priceless
    
    pete_dushenski: "it's not just all the printing of hollow paper promises that the boe and the fed have been indulging in for the past near-decade, it's once-in-a-lifetime strikes of lighting ! like finding out you have a long-lost rich uncle."
    
    pete_dushenski: "we measured it !"
    
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    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15437 @ 0.00069141 = 10.6733 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    pete_dushenski: "Two interesting comments from Hulk Hogan -- he's NOT mad with the WWE for cutting ties with him over the N-word ... and says he wants to make America great again, by running with Donald Trump!!!!"
    
    pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2015/06/hulk-hogan-puts-dentons-control-of-gawker-media-on-life-support/ << obligatory hulk reference
    
    assbot: Hulk Hogan Puts Denton's Control of Gawker Media on Life Support | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1fPfxOW )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00070698 = 26.2643 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00070869 = 18.107 BTC [+] {4} 
    
    asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims wild animals to lean latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    asciilifeform: *learn
    
    asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu (corrected) dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims of wild animals to learn latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00070133 = 15.5695 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    
    
    assbot: Corn Wars | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1fPmHm7 )
    
    punkman: asciilifeform: do nodes added with -connect get disconnected?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16207 @ 0.00069262 = 11.2253 BTC [-]
    
    asciilifeform: punkman: yes
    
    asciilifeform: punkman: and, iirc, using 'connect' disables external listening and renders the thing useless as a public node
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.0006917 = 26.25 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    punkman: asciilifeform: it's the DoS protection right?
    
    asciilifeform: punkman: not only.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00071176 = 19.7869 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    pete_dushenski: "An environmental scientist working for a Canadian government agency has been suspended and will be investigated for recording a protest song about the prime minister, Stephen Harper" << dole-guzzler shocked to discover that dole... can end.
    
    pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei50lM6ab1c << said 'protest song'. full of blindingly smug and/or visibly slow-witted church-goers
    
    assbot: Harperman, a Protest Song - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EtPMj5 )
    
    pete_dushenski: in other news, "Singer Chrissie Hynde has been criticised for saying it can be a woman’s fault if she is raped. The Pretenders star, 63, said she blamed herself for being forced to perform sexual acts under the threat of violence."
    
    pete_dushenski: “Technically speaking, however you want to look at it, this was all my doing and I take full responsibility. You can’t f*** about with people, especially people who wear ‘I Heart Rape’ and ‘On Your Knees’ badges ... those motorcycle gangs, that’s what they do. You can’t paint yourself into a corner and then say whose brush is this? You have to take responsibility. I mean, I was naive.”
    
    pete_dushenski: “If you’re wearing something that says ‘Come and f*** me’, you’d better be good on your feet ... I don’t think I’m saying anything controversial am I?”
    
    pete_dushenski: "You know, if you don’t want to entice a rapist, don’t wear high heels so you can’t run from him."
    
    pete_dushenski: !rated trinque
    
    assbot: You have not rated trinque.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8075 @ 0.00071207 = 5.75 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.trinque.2:2a05a9591580e8da5d9512c0d3935dbc0a2d20cf70f9db69be5e35d205e89ac1
    
    assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for trinque with note: maker and maintainer of deedbot- in #b-a. helpful fellow.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00071013 = 18.8895 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no idea why the thing would disconnect for any reason other than what we discussed through the pool weighing
    
    mircea_popescu: it should be fixed so it never disconnects in general.
    
    mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256510 << everyone sane including myself sleeps alone.
    
    assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 09:47:34; pete_dushenski: "In his ideal scenario, Littlehales says athletes wouldn’t be banned from having sex before big games (“absolute crap”) but most definitely sleep solo, with partners leaving for a separate room once it’s time to get 40 winks." << whoa whoa whoa, why play pro sports if you're sleeping solo ?
    
    mircea_popescu: it is the #1 thing you can do for your own well being.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.0006923 = 33.5073 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256514 << heh, lottery created'
    
    assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 09:55:08; pete_dushenski: "It is not just property ownership that is creating more UK millionaires. While the TV game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? was axed in the UK in 2014, the National Lottery says it has created more than 3,900 individual millionaires since 1994.
    
    mircea_popescu: millionaires.
    
    mircea_popescu: how about "the incredible decay of the pound sterling, currently worth about 1/9000 of a pound sterling, has "Created" fictitious "millionaires" worth a thousand guineeas each. not PER Y
    
    mircea_popescu: EAR. worth nothing per year because the economy's dead."
    
    mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256545 << "ddos protection" being used so liberally to mask specifically nsa-ian idiocy strengthens my suspicion that "ddos" does not merely exist, but is in fact a coopted technologee. which is why fucking automattic ACTUASLLY PUTS IT IN DELIBERATELY.
    
    assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 16:22:18; punkman: asciilifeform: it's the DoS protection right?
    
    mircea_popescu: assholes.
    
    trinque: !up yamaka
    
    trinque: yamaka: your client is leaking your IP
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what in this case is 'coopted' ? even a tree stump can see that the buggers love to ddos
    
    mircea_popescu: the ddos sources don't simply exist, like rocks. they were put there, like roads.
    
    asciilifeform: no shit
    
    mircea_popescu: not only is this not directly obvious,
    
    mircea_popescu: you may find nobody else agrees outside of b-a.
    
    asciilifeform: for extra clarity: 'ddos sources' as in senders of the packets, or what is meant is 'ddos holes' ?
    
    asciilifeform: as in, orifices for the cock
    
    mircea_popescu: the senders.
    
    mircea_popescu: automattic PUT ONE IN deliberately and has systematically refused to take it out for ~10 years now.
    
    asciilifeform: waitasec what is automattic ?
    
    asciilifeform: ;;google automattic
    
    gribble: Automattic: <https://automattic.com/>; Work With Us — Automattic: <https://automattic.com/work-with-us/>; About Us — Automattic: <https://automattic.com/about/>
    
    mircea_popescu: but i suspect the makers of fucking TV boxes were mandated to put the source in
    
    mircea_popescu: didn't just carelessly left it in
    
    mircea_popescu: HAD TO put it in
    
    mircea_popescu: which is why and how everyone is "Careless" in the same exact manner.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the makers of wordpress.
    
    asciilifeform: positions: '.... Happiness Engineer'
    
    asciilifeform: l0l!
    
    asciilifeform: this has got to be a joke
    
    mircea_popescu: no. it is the redhat of blogs.
    
    asciilifeform: dear satan.
    
    mircea_popescu: aha.
    
    asciilifeform changes gas mask filter
    
    mircea_popescu: lemme sauce you.
    
    
    
    assbot: Mika Epstein aka Ipstenu is a thoroughly clueless poser on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDX6Iv )
    
    asciilifeform: that'd be strictly www ddosen, rather than bitcoin etc., no ?
    
    mircea_popescu: i'm sorta half-surprised they're not trying to sue me for using "an unauthorised wordpress fork" which doesn't have all the fucking holes.
    
    mircea_popescu: perhaps not yet on the grounds that why give the hand away, i guess.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform still same principle, and as historical accident, where i happened to notice the strange.
    
    asciilifeform: 'wordpress' is famously a steaming pile of shit though
    
    mircea_popescu: unlike what ?
    
    asciilifeform: i don't personally know ~anyone~ who uses the 'official' version
    
    mircea_popescu: what ISNT a famous pile of shit ?
    
    asciilifeform: there are obscure piles of shit
    
    mircea_popescu: NAT routers ? ntp servers ? dns servers ? what
    
    asciilifeform: like 'diff'
    
    mircea_popescu: yes, you wouldn't. i also don't know anyone who shops at hot topic. or at kfc.
    
    mircea_popescu: somehow a bunch of blogger blogers keep popping up tho.
    
    asciilifeform: i've seen this called 'bush effect', after the re-election of bush II in '04. a crowd of people whined re: 'how did he win, i don't know anyone who voted for him'
    
    trinque: "here is everywhere" I think applies.
    
    trinque: of course social groups would self-select, or how are they a group?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00069663 = 9.5438 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform meanwhile there's a new bojum
    
    mircea_popescu: ima be connecting to zoolag and passing you tx aa956edc2dd94722b5794eaf4e987ebdc8189d2e4c6334c433d7514a28d6b3ab
    
    mircea_popescu: see if you figure out wtf is wrong with it because i can't see it
    
    asciilifeform: 1sec..
    
    asciilifeform: fire.
    
    mircea_popescu: no rush it'll be ongoing for a while.
    
    mircea_popescu: but in summary it's an apparently valid tx that lingered in "unconfirmed, broadcast through 200 nodes" sort of state for half a day, bitcoin.info as the standard bearer of the enemy DOESNT list it, either in the mempool or in the rejected txn list, in spite of having received it nx, etc.
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not seeing any sign of it in the log...
    
    mircea_popescu: give this an hour we talk after.
    
    asciilifeform: very well.
    
    asciilifeform: i don't suppose there is anything unusual about this tx ?
    
    mircea_popescu: you tell me!
    
    mircea_popescu: the very notion of "something unusual about txn" is smack drab in the conflict zone. wtf does this even mean.
    
    asciilifeform: let's say it straddled a former fork boundary
    
    mircea_popescu: i dun think so.
    
    asciilifeform:  tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log | grep 28d6b3ab
    
    asciilifeform: ......
    
    asciilifeform: [the sound of silence]
    
    mircea_popescu: lol. if you're using the stock scheme of logs, they dump like gpg dumps. only a portion
    
    mircea_popescu: and iirc they cut from the front, too
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway, appreciate that i'm having a node respun with a -connect to you, so may take a little.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9671 @ 0.00069141 = 6.6866 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    asciilifeform puts 'tx dumper' on list of necessaries
    
    asciilifeform notices that it was already long there
    
    jurov: maybe they started censoring eulora-related-txen , too
    
    jurov: but how did they figured this is one, i have nfi
    
    asciilifeform: unsigned plaintext 'asks for rape' - in the abstract
    
    asciilifeform: only a question of who and when.
    
    asciilifeform: i have noted this before.
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov i dunno, hanbot complained about her tx not going through, i look at the node she's talking to, it's there, i look at the network, it's not there.
    
    asciilifeform: for all i know, all 3 of my nodez are in mike hearn's ban list
    
    asciilifeform: and this sufficed.
    
    asciilifeform: xt nodes, even when running 'on dead squirrel in cardboard box under the bed', may well be enough as a 'neutron absorber'
    
    asciilifeform: given the current topology of the network
    
    mircea_popescu: which is why i made a special instance to talk to you specifically.
    
    asciilifeform: neato.
    
    mircea_popescu: as it turns out it's entirely possible we'll have to kick this into high gear, specifically because of the poisoning concern you discuss.
    
    asciilifeform: i would be genuinely astonished if the enemy were not focusing his effort on precisely this kind of poison
    
    mircea_popescu: jackshit it'll do, but anyway.
    
    mircea_popescu: teh xt mempool wars of 2015 lol
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;seen birdman
    
    gribble: birdman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 15 hours, 58 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Birdman> im well
    
    mircea_popescu: "But girl's bellies and apricots, Roach in a shaded stream, Horses, ducks in flight at dawn, All these are a dream."
    
    mircea_popescu: orwell is officially the worst poet ever. apricots, seriously ?
    
    asciilifeform: notice that he is not known as a poet, aha
    
    mircea_popescu: dude, say cunts if you mean cunts. don't say fucking apricots when your ideas require you say cunt ffs.
    
    asciilifeform: funnily the ru translation (which i was reading last night) is 10x better
    
    mircea_popescu: quoth ?
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://flibusta.net/b/98554/read << in there somewhere.
    
    assbot: Сборник рассказов, эссе (fb2) | Флибуста ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVE90Y )
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzy, 'Герой трус и от книги воняет мочой.' >> review of '1984'
    
    mircea_popescu: i dun see it
    
    mircea_popescu: just his equally bad one with the italian soldier
    
    asciilifeform: ('the hero is a coward and the book reeks of piss')
    
    asciilifeform: yer right it only has the italian soldier
    
    mircea_popescu: he's almost pointedly anti-gifted for poetry.
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://orwell.ru/library/essays/wiw/russian/r_wiw << here's that one
    
    assbot: Джордж Оруэлл: Почему я пишу -- Перевод: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MWdBkM )
    
    mircea_popescu: like a sort of reverse-hemingway in verse.
    
    asciilifeform: grep for Священником я мог бы стать
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol were you testing my admittedly poor ru comprehension ?
    
    asciilifeform: nah just brainphart
    
    asciilifeform: sitting on multiple consoles, trying to wrap up 'v'
    
    mircea_popescu: meh, Священник is not vicar.
    
    asciilifeform: and, more importantly, крепыши are not 'little fat men'
    
    mircea_popescu: then again hm. i guess there's no better to be hgad
    
    asciilifeform: opposite!
    
    mircea_popescu: ahahaha yeah
    
    mircea_popescu: he didn't say fucking stout
    
    mircea_popescu: Девичий стан, и абрикос, dude gtfo
    
    mircea_popescu: how is this better ?
    
    asciilifeform: it isn't
    
    mircea_popescu: it's worse. apricot doesn't even mean cunt in russian
    
    mircea_popescu: they decided, iirc, on the plum
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31293 @ 0.00069096 = 21.6222 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    mircea_popescu: perhaps on account of having either larger plums or smaller mounds.
    
    
    
    
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVESPI )
    
    asciilifeform: mats: one day somebody might collect a set of these which don't date to the 486
    
    mats: will you be that hero
    
    asciilifeform: prolly not
    
    asciilifeform: just pointing out that these are pathetically suboptimal on x64
    
    asciilifeform: which has things like cmov
    
    mats: yep
    
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    trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/30/us-usa-election-christie-idUSKCN0QZ0TA20150830 << Mass-surveillance is only for the (ever-expanding category of) bad guys, don't ya know?
    
    assbot: Christie says criticism of FedEx-like immigrant tracking is 'ridiculous'| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1UmKK9S )
    
    trinque: seems they're going to get decent milage out of this "illegal immigrants" thing
    
    mircea_popescu: usg is running with this "let's make it so only an idiot would ever come to us" thing huh
    
    asciilifeform: while bezzleprinter still works, they can require 'donation' of 'extra' organs on entry and folks will come
    
    mircea_popescu: "He maintains that 40 percent of illegal immigrants with visas overstay their visits."
    
    mircea_popescu: wut ?! what's the other 60% do then ?!
    
    asciilifeform: waiwut
    
    asciilifeform: what's an illegal immigrant with a non-overstayed visa ?
    
    mircea_popescu: eh fuck this shit. "news".
    
    mircea_popescu: much more instructive to read spam emails than "news"
    
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    trinque: Christie's a fat Jersey moron without question. My observation is that where the "terrorism" tactic does not work, the "illegals are why you're poor" one will fill in nicely. The next obvious step is to combine them.
    
    trinque: someone will cross the southern border and go for a high score, or who knows what.
    
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    mircea_popescu: doubt it very much
    
    mircea_popescu: mexicans are going north to get exactly out of the way of mexican men.
    
    mircea_popescu: the men themselves are readily finding employment with the cartels.
    
    mats: the rfc defining pgp packets makes my brain hurt
    
    asciilifeform: mats: welcome to my hell
    
    mats: a moment of solidarity
    
    mats: i also have yet to decide how to solve the np-complete problems in the spec
    
    asciilifeform: !b 1
    
    assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3MVJ7KQ.txt )
    
    asciilifeform: l0l
    
    mats: :<
    
    
    
    assbot: seventeen by sjowgren | Free Listening on SoundCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq2Wmo )
    
    trinque: mircea_popescu: but what does the real motivation of mexicans entering the US have to do with the propaganda value of the fact that they are?
    
    trinque: what I see is a gradual attempt to normalize location tracking of everyone; maybe I'm wrong.
    
    mircea_popescu: im sure usg would love nothing more than everyone carrying a mandatory ipad
    
    
    
    assbot: U.S. Smartphone Use in 2015 | Pew Research Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq39FX )
    
    mircea_popescu: jus' sayin', the sort of mexicans coming into the us are filtered for worthlessness.
    
    mircea_popescu: not liable to do anything much.
    
    trinque: certainly
    
    mircea_popescu: so i wrote sometime somewhere a license which basically said "it is illegal to use this software". anyone recall where ?
    
    
    
    assbot: A new software licensing paradigm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq3o47 )
    
    
    
    mircea_popescu: ty!
    
    trinque: np
    
    mircea_popescu notices he forgot to add lecitin to the shopping list.
    
    
    
    assbot: A new software licensing paradigm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq4zAg )
    
    mircea_popescu: ahhh
    
    mircea_popescu: the upside of bad memory. i enjoy reading trilema as much as anyone
    
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    assbot: Trouser snake ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQVWf2 )
    
    mats: https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverseEngineering/comments/smf4u/reverser_wanting_to_develop_mathematically/c4fa6yl
    
    assbot: rolfr comments on Reverser wanting to develop mathematically ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQVYn0 )
    
    asciilifeform: mats: i had a good number of the books listed in the link, in school
    
    asciilifeform: mats: sipser and 'handbook of crypto' (crc? he doesn't say which) - i still have.
    
    asciilifeform: and papadimitriou
    
    trinque: latest item collected on the quest for radio-passive living, foxtrotgps
    
    asciilifeform: for some reason he doesn't mention barendregt
    
    trinque: anyone know a better one? navit had serious stink, passed on it
    
    asciilifeform: mats: re: compiler construction, i prefer aho's 'dragon book' to appel
    
    asciilifeform: i probably could go on and on but doubt that anybody gives a fuck.
    
    mats: i know approximately nothing about maths, so a list like this is helpful to me
    
    asciilifeform: mats: which maths you need, is something no one can answer for you. it depends heavily on what it is you are trying to think about.
    
    asciilifeform: if you're doing typical reversing work, you can mostly get by with a firm grasp of kindergarten arithmetic.
    
    asciilifeform: (and a pinch of complexity theory)
    
    asciilifeform: also helps if you know what automata are
    
    mats: noted
    
    
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1JqLDsD )
    
    deedbot-: [Trilema] One hundred million Eulora coins. Or in other words, one Bitcoin. - http://trilema.com/2015/one-hundred-million-eulora-coins-or-in-other-words-one-bitcoin/
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.09670001 = 1.4505 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: o yeah, in other news, eulora sold 1 btc worth at auction
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato
    
    trinque: those eulora logs crack me up
    
    mats: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/turkey-duped-the-us-and-isis-reaps-rewards-10478720.html
    
    assbot: Turkey duped the US, and Isis reaps rewards - Comment - Voices - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NI1ZDE )
    
    mats: genius
    
    mats: and the referenced op ed by Ambassador Edelman http://nytimes.com/2015/08/27/opinion/americas-dangerous-bargain-with-turkey.html
    
    assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jr1QOv )
    
    asciilifeform: !up sexy_saffron
    
    trinque: https://archive.is/lQart << mats: notably, the article was taken down.
    
    assbot: Why is Turkey supporting Islamic State fighters in Iraq?—commentary ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2zdKW )
    
    sexy_saffron: echangekey
    
    trinque: seems Turkey likes ISIS just fine
    
    trinque: at least so long as they're a problem for Syria, maybe
    
    sexy_saffron: ;;gpg eregister sexy_saffron 922837F6B1FC09A3
    
    gribble: Error: Username already registered. Try a different username.
    
    trinque: sexy_saffron: are you trying to register for voice here?
    
    sexy_saffron: I'm trying to register my GPG key
    
    sexy_saffron: ;;bcauth sexy_saffron
    
    gribble: Request successful for user sexy_saffron, hostmask sexy_saffron!42832f42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.131.47.66. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:409a509e51d1706626f4fbf803efd3850f8e1bf64f15464d6f0f01ad
    
    trinque: assbot now has a separate WoT
    
    trinque: !gettrust sexy_saffron
    
    assbot: sexy_saffron is not registered in WoT.
    
    trinque: !h
    
    
    
    sexy_saffron: ;;bcverify HH1+7nv7kCPhzrnhTLK4AOuk0VjQ3f3+i6wM6sctJCCIdM69KEbvo1SbXHrbyDkXC6UfuiSFPHYZiviDhGt61/8=
    
    gribble: You are now authenticated for user 'sexy_saffron' with address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT
    
    sexy_saffron: ;;gpg eregister sexy_saffron 922837F6B1FC09A3
    
    gribble: Error: Username already registered. Try a different username.
    
    sexy_saffron: >trinque I'm following the steps from the wiki, does that change the process?
    
    trinque: yup, assbot's the one for auth here.
    
    trinque: !register and !v
    
    assbot: Nick trinque is already taken.
    
    sexy_saffron: !v
    
    assbot: Need a decrypted verification string.
    
    sexy_saffron: !register
    
    assbot: You need to specify your key fingerprint.
    
    sexy_saffron: !register 922837F6B1FC09A3
    
    assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
    
    sexy_saffron: hmmmm
    
    trinque: that one you get with gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
    
    trinque: it'll want it without spaces.
    
    sexy_saffron: I don't have it registered yet though, how do I register it?
    
    mats: give assbot the fingerprint its asking for.
    
    sexy_saffron: do I have to upload my key to a server first?
    
    trinque has to depart
    
    trinque: sexy_saffron: yup, needs to be uploaded so assbot can retrieve
    
    asciilifeform: in other nyooz,
    
    asciilifeform: 'v' is done.
    
    sexy_saffron: gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
    
    sexy_saffron: ;;gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
    
    gribble: Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--list-keys" in it.  Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.