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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00061622 = 6.0081 BTC [-]
phf: gernika, ben_vulpes: new patch, 7129357156859d81c987e210d26ba552fdc49350
mod6: hanbot: yeah, the guide needs to be updated. It's on the to-do list, just had my hands full lately. I can help you get patched up from v0.5.3.1 if you like. We can work on that this week.
mod6: Meanwhile, I can offer you a script that I use to patch up through maxint_locks_corrected from v0.5.3.1 -- it's not a guide, but if you read the steps, it's what needs to happen and in what order. The new (forthcoming) guide will be based on these steps: http://dpaste.com/0YVSD6Q.txt
mod6: I'm going to be afk for the rest of the night, but I can perhaps talk about it with you tomorrow.
hanbot: mod6 awesome, ty for the script, will check it out!
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits
assbot: pay for your tits - Google Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1grw8IZ )
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213181 << I'd like to transition my twitter bashing of this channel to my own blog, and would like it to be hosted by that BISP thing but not directly, like rent out some space on someone else's thingy. Is this a possibility yet?
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 15:35:35; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213082 << did the summarizer of #b-a logs go anywhere ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00061622 = 4.8065 BTC [-]
gernika: phf looks like cs built!
phf: woot
danielpbarron: !up coderwill
danielpbarron: !gettrust assbot coderwill
assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user coderwill: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=coderwill | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/coderwill/
coderwill: thanks
danielpbarron: try verifying it here
coderwill: i was switching my nick, maybe that had something to do w/ it.
phf: final boss
coderwill: danielpbarron:
coderwill: when you said "verify" did you mean try to !up again?
coderwill: side note - saw citizenfour last night. am having trouble grasping how high school drop-out supposedly gained access to all kinds of stuff across all kinds of platforms by the age of 29. somethings seems off w/ that whole thing.
coderwill: ...not that there is anything wrong w/ dropping out of any sort of educational system.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00062224 = 19.165 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i dunno that anyone does that yet
wilbns: sorry for all that
mircea_popescu: the notion that "all kinds of stuff over all kinds of platforms" is in any sense locked down's amiss.
wilbns: danielpbarron: thanks for trying to help me
mircea_popescu: someone could also shoot a bunch of people by the time they're 29.
phf: gernika: why not relax with a new eulora build formula?
mircea_popescu wonders how many people implemented a "textual replacement lisp interpreter" in bash/perl/php just to bother their sicp prof.
wilbns: mircea_popescu: it just seemed like something was/is a bit strange about the whole ordeal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00062441 = 24.3208 BTC [+] {4}
phf: that seems like an artisan level troll
wilbns: BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do?
assbot: | browsers.evolt.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1ISlAJS )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28640 @ 0.00062466 = 17.8903 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.0006306 = 13.1165 BTC [+] {5}
punkman: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.99, Best ask: 266.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 266.0, 24 hour volume: 16462.09261698, 24 hour low: 261.63, 24 hour high: 267.6, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34454 @ 0.00063192 = 21.7722 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <wilbns> BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do? << His body language, his carriage, when he does and doesn't express discomfort. Coincidences between Greenwald finding things out and things going to shit...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26390 @ 0.00063191 = 16.6761 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00062375 = 13.1611 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20494 @ 0.00063245 = 12.9614 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9106 @ 0.00063342 = 5.7679 BTC [+]
shinohai: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.95, Best ask: 264.96, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 264.96, 24 hour volume: 15841.2556001, 24 hour low: 261.63, 24 hour high: 267.6, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46647 @ 0.00061538 = 28.7056 BTC [-] {5}
shinohai: !up TRS80_
shinohai: $phuctor 2
TRS80_: shinohai: 2015-08-10T08:10:23+0000: Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Thomas Hofmann <toho89@gmail.com>; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9AD29DC660DB7496B01D608486E6062A27E35F35C32CFD3E2F35FC1409374187#E5D971BED516F3DAD920A90EF1FC17998F15DC52F179A95E45EA559544E77A4D> | 2015-08-10T08:10:23+0000: Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Julia Reda <reda.julia@googlemail.com>; ) (1 more message)
shinohai: $more
TRS80_: shinohai: <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF#6269187B70BE0F1B4094A0DCA78923F50E78C97F8B3999BAB3DE5974003B393F>
shinohai: ^ new ones O.o
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00063342 = 10.7048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00060795 = 32.6469 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16778 @ 0.00063342 = 10.6275 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits
assbot: Zynga Continues Bleeding | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXrD6R )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95418 @ 0.00060257 = 57.496 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: No Cookies | The Advertiser ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXshkT )
shinohai: ^ Gets less time than DPR.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23542 @ 0.00063342 = 14.912 BTC [+]
cazalla: shinohai, prob the tip of the iceberg, i assume a lot of paedos work in such professions
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062827 = 6.0942 BTC [-]
punkman: everyone gets less time than DPR
shinohai: I'm just smh at the state of priorities in the "Criminal Justice System".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062827 = 4.4293 BTC [-]
cazalla: a lot of thieving goes on in those government homes for disabled people down under too.. the clients get welfare and from that the care takers pocket chunks of it by claiming they spent more than they did ($5 lunch becomes $15 lunch type of shit)
shinohai: That was the premise for an episode of "Better Call Saul". Happens quite often here in teh US too.
punkman: it's a common scam
shinohai: Of course, I'm not a senior but was quite outraged at the cost of everyday items my last hospital stay.
shinohai: $100 for some goddamned kleenex
punkman: greece hasn't reach that level of ridiculousness yet, but all hospital supplies are way overpriced
shinohai: It's cheaper for me to hire a private nurse. I get better care and don't have to be in a filthy hospital.
punkman: they just came out with "food stamps" in the form of ATM cards reloaded monthly with 70-200eur
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00060978 = 27.1352 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: and apparently they've spent about 10mil euros in 11 days through the cards
shinohai: There is a whole black market (pun intended) for food stamps/drugs here.
cazalla: shinohai, a stay in hospital is pretty well subsidised here if you go public and don't mind the total lack of service, or you can go private (we don't really have pre-existing condition stuff here.. if you take out private health insurance, any pre-existing condition is covered after 12 months)
shinohai: LOLZ
punkman: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15899 @ 0.00060582 = 9.6319 BTC [-]
assbot: DOWNLOAD: Bitcoin XT 0.11A is now released (bigger blocks support) ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdBolo )
punkman: who's the icebreaker fellow
Naphex: shinohai: roflmao :]
shinohai: I dunno, but I like his style
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84350 @ 0.00063433 = 53.5057 BTC [+] {5}
cazalla: you'd think hearn and co would at least put up a few dozen extra xt nodes to fool people into thinking the mass of /r/bitcoin posts demanding xt discussion are legit
shinohai: http://xtnodes.com/ still shows only ~125
assbot: XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1U879cH )
assbot: Leverage ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdIGpq )
cazalla: zzz 6am start :\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00063572 = 7.2154 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00060701 = 7.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47150 @ 0.00063722 = 30.0449 BTC [+] {5}
kakobrekla: programmers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104600 @ 0.0006379 = 66.7243 BTC [+] {6}
BingoBoingo: Pro-Grammar
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00064069 = 19.3168 BTC [+] {4}
shinohai: I'm Pro-Hammer
shinohai because hammers can fix anything.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72616 @ 0.00061604 = 44.7344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31558 @ 0.00060978 = 19.2434 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Berkshire Hathaway to buy Precision Castparts - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1ht6q7P )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00060285 = 12.1173 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59900 @ 0.00059743 = 35.7861 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40920 @ 0.00060678 = 24.8294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00059632 = 17.174 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5837 @ 0.0005963 = 3.4806 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15463 @ 0.00059384 = 9.1825 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50400 @ 0.00059384 = 29.9295 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50240 @ 0.00060678 = 30.4846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39505 @ 0.00060678 = 23.9708 BTC [+]
assbot: Cody Wilson Denied Requested Injunction in His Ongoing 3D Printed Gun Lawsuit - 3DPrint.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlhzSc )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14549 @ 0.00059905 = 8.7156 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00060601 = 27.8765 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00060678 = 5.8858 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00059384 = 9.2045 BTC [-]
funkenstein_: The full orchestra! :) Fedora-20-x64
funkenstein_: TEST2 script took some of the fun out of it, thing has the gameplay of "progress quest"
gernika: phf: eulora built! Crashes though: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/crashdump.txt
gernika: ;;later tell phf eulora built! Crashes though: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/crashdump.txt
gribble: The operation succeeded.
funkenstein_: Bundesministerium für Landesverteidigung und Sport <-- doesn't seem an obvious target of diddled crypto
funkenstein_: "the State Department’s order to remove the digital files of his 3D printable handgun from his website" <-- good strategy. Fight the enemy over their demand for time machine, keep them busy and away from live targets
funkenstein_: I think they should publish on court website exactly the number which they forbid to be published just so we all know not to publish it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00060595 = 23.8138 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48100 @ 0.00061701 = 29.6782 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: Man shot by police in Ferguson after he fired at officers, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MY5Yvo )
assbot: Two teens walking near Michael Brown memorial wounded in Ferguson drive-by shooting : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MY606o )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58602 @ 0.00059009 = 34.5805 BTC [-] {6}
shinohai: Ferguson burns down in 3...2..1
wilbns: BingoBoingo: thanks for following-up... yeah, some stuff did seem a little strange w/ greenwald. also, not sure if you perceived this, but from my perspective, parts of the doc seemed a little scripted or rehearsed.
shinohai: !up ascii_field
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 14:35:19; funkenstein_: The full orchestra! :) Fedora-20-x64
shinohai: ascii_field: mod6 and I having an unusual bug on Ubuntu 14.04 http://dpaste.com/1PCQ44J.txt
shinohai: !up n6
n6: ascii_field: we talked about DETERMINISTIC builds the other day would that be somehting like Distcc too on gentoo where you can build something on x86 for arm?
n6: let me rephrase, that doesn't make any sense sorry.
shinohai: Something like that, though I still can't make cross-compilation work. I'm not the wizard ascii_field is.
ascii_field: shinohai: i don't see an error
ascii_field: i see harmless -Wall barf
ascii_field: n6, shinohai: search the ml for 'pogotron'. yes, buildroot builds for arm, mips, whatever
n6: ascii_field: I want to build gentoo using a x86 but for an armv7a, using something like distcc? would that make the builds DETERMINISTIC since everything you would need would be included?
ascii_field: see above
n6: what does ml mean here?
ascii_field: i posted a working example of this months ago
shinohai: mod6 says it builds a binary but won't run. As soon as mine completes I'll confirm.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca )
shinohai: I did the pogotron thing and still wound up with a x86 binary
ascii_field: prolly didn't copy the config
ascii_field: otherwise can't fathom how.
phf: !up ascii_field
phf: gernika: can you also give me a log of $(eulora_brew --prefix eulora)/euclient.app/Contents/MacOS/euclient > euclient-run.log 2>&1
phf: err, $(brew --prefix eulora)/euclient.app/Contents/MacOS/euclient > euclient-run.log 2>&1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00058836 = 14.4442 BTC [-] {2}
n6: ascii_field: why should I check both sigs here, and how?
ascii_field: n6: please do your homework
ascii_field: n6: i.e. 'why to check sigs' is a question you should be able to answer
n6: ascii_field: yea this gentoo thing has me under a lot of pressure, working on going down a more sane path today. Homework first then attack the problem, last few days tried attacking first and it hasnt worked out.
ascii_field: n6: relax.
shinohai: If you have to ask "why check sigs" then I can't even begin ....
n6: ascii_field: How do I check his key here? Only see yours.
ascii_field: download a copy of the key
ascii_field: (from sks, for example)
ascii_field: can also use gpg --recv-key [keyid]
n6: thanks thats what I was looking for.
n6: ascii_field: tried to import your key to just to test and get http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ
assbot: dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )
ascii_field: use gpg 1.4
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ << lulzy
assbot: dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !up n6
n6: ascii_field: The only way to get that for OS X is to build from source using https://www.gnupg.org/download/ ?
assbot: GnuPG - Download ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXWyM )
ascii_field: n6: or use 'ports', or 'fink'
ascii_field: or get a real computer
n6: I'm working on the real computer thing, its a long road.
mircea_popescu: nuts that it should be.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42431 @ 0.00060953 = 25.863 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_field: kina like when you had to build own airplane
ascii_field: where did anyone get the idea that this is 'easy' and 'friendly' ?
n6: My wings keep falling off.
punkman: n6, you could also just fix your gpg config
ascii_field: obligatory:
ascii_field: 'I'm positively _delighted_ that I can buy consumer products so cheaply and so conveniently, but -- get this -- I'm not in the business of making microwave ovens or wine glasses or books or speakers, but I _do_ expect those who _are_ to have professional tools, so I can buy consumer goods inexpensively with moderately high quality. I don't _want_ Joe Blows' Homemade Microwave Oven, OK?'
assbot: Re: Why lisp failed in the marketplace - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYmW2 )
mircea_popescu: ascii_field get out. by the time oil was a central commodity to civilisation for fifty years, it was trivial to get an engine deployed to spec. TO SPEC!!!11
mircea_popescu: by the time electricity was a central commodity, idem.
ascii_field: well yes.
ascii_field: but this time was different.
mircea_popescu: fucking computation has to be special because all the fucktards wanna be important in their own heads and power range around
ascii_field: the tech did not grow up.
mircea_popescu: it was different because libertards.\
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if only.
mircea_popescu: which btw, reminds me i came up with an excellent slogan to inhibit the cancer.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: also because the relevant tech simply did not mature
ascii_field: we're still at the point of the marginal steam-engine planes of 1898
ascii_field: that kind sorta lift off the ground, if no wind
mircea_popescu: whenever you run across one of these "software projects" in bootstrap/qt/whatever the fuck tell them "This is not programming, this is hogramming. Be a pro, don't be a ho."
ascii_field: and go up twenty metres and fall apart
mircea_popescu: because srsly, pros before hos.
mircea_popescu is half tempted to buy github, turn it off and just display that page everywhere.
ascii_field: ^ mega-pr0ject
n6: ascii_field: installed ports but still don't see path to gpg infact don't even see a "port" command used https://www.macports.org/install.php "OS X 10.10 Yosemite"
assbot: The MacPorts Project -- Download & Installation ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYNQa )
ascii_field: after that let's buy whitehouse and open pay toilet
mircea_popescu: whitehouse you don't buy, you take.
ascii_field head-desks
mircea_popescu: but the general plan is sound. make the place into public urinal.
ascii_field: su had this down to an art
ascii_field: there was a glorious pay toilet across the street from where i grew up
ascii_field: where a cathedral once stood
ascii_field: then the twerps took over in '90s and rebuilt cathedral, aha
shinohai: !up ascii_field
n6: ascii_field: I'm install it from the app store.. they don't even have a progress bar hope its installing.
n6: (xcode)
ascii_field: for fucks sake
n6: ascii_field: anyway I can check to see if its downloading using unix tools and the command line?
mircea_popescu: appstore gpg ?!
chetty: oi vey
assbot: Zynga Continues Bleeding | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHGuzg )
n6: mircea_popescu: appstore dev tools 2.6gb and no progress bar. going for 6.4 off the website hope the command line tools just installed for later version don't fuck me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00059783 = 21.761 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00062379 = 14.5343 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
phf: for the record i think a secure and verifiable path for receiving a key of person in wot is to ssl connect to freenode using explicit server key, request !shasum wot from assbot, download http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/wot_users.sql.gz, verify its shasum, do `zgrep -oE '\([^)]+phf[^)]+\)' wot_users.sql.gz` (or whatever nick), the second number in the grep output is going to be the key fingerprint, next grep --recv-key <fingerprint>
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl3k1m )
assbot: Exploiting Android Users for Fun and Profit | The Code Word ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl3llZ )
ascii_field: 'The stuff I worked on in that job was complete horseshit. It provided absolutely zero value to anybody. It existed and was expressly optimized for the sole purpose of exploiting non-tech-savvy computer users to generate undeserved profits.'
punkman: why undeserved?
phf: *gpg --recv-key <fingerprint>
diametric: punkman: the people paying his employer for their ad services were not getting return on those ads.
phf: the first part of that process is dodgiest, since there's no way to ensure that it's assbot that's handing out shasums
punkman: diametric: maybe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42476 @ 0.00059619 = 25.3238 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: !up n6
trinque: phf: might be nice to make a deed of a big wad of public keys
trinque: someone who went to the conference and signed them, for example
n6: anyone here used flink? Do I want to build all packages locally or is using binary distribution going to work ok for gpg?
punkman: compiling your own gpg won't fix your problem
assbot: [META] On hardforking: If Bitcoin is so vulnerable to reddit posts and a man who codes in the open, that it requires censorship to stay safe, perhaps it is destined for doom after all. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl9kHI )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: shinohai: gotta love the tards - thief screams 'stop, thief'
ascii_field: mike hearn as a courageous fighter against nsa !
ascii_field: 'stand up against crippled 1mb coin!'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37918 @ 0.00062336 = 23.6366 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: pffft
shinohai: "we'll make our own bitcoin, with blackjack and hookers."
trinque: so, /r/bitcoin has an anti-XT mod?
trinque: that at least is surprising
shinohai: I am surprised that theymos is supposedly calling XT and altcoin.
trinque: interesting; fine gentlemen right here made that case what, months ago?
assbot: Microsoft Raises Bug Bounty Program Reward to $100,000! | LIFARS ... ( http://bit.ly/1TldNdq )
shinohai: ^ Windows 10 is one big bug, pay me pl0x
trinque: heh, then they turn around and sell them to the govt at a handsome profit?
trinque: nice business microsoft has there
mats: this is a good move on microsoft's part
trinque: sure, but I have to give them shit.
Adlai: wywialm: https://quedex.net/doc/margins#liquidation "all your your open positions"
assbot: Quedex Bitcoin Derivatives Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1DD4fZE )
mats: yes, i know, everyone in #b-a is edgy
trinque: oh stahp
trinque: making fun of microsoft is edgy now?
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/41G8spw.png <<< how 2 defeat Microsoft/NSA
trinque: but if we must have an adult conversation, Nadella at least seems like he's making changes
trinque: shinohai: now that's edgy
mircea_popescu: phf alternatively you can just download a possibly dirty key, use it, then once you get to know the person ask them to verify it
mircea_popescu: if you find it doesn't match you got a good story for a blogpost.
mircea_popescu: punkman the entire "online ad" industry is fundamentally predicated on "we can sell bot traffic to idiots"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is bitcoin vulnerable to reddit posts ?
mircea_popescu: the twerps drinking their own splooge again ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field kinda old & stale by now, but hey, if it's all they got... it's all they got.
wywialm: Adlai, unfortunately, yes - there is much room for improvements and we hope to add more forgiving liquidation scheme before or soon after real launch
wywialm: i thought that it is better to publish the exchange as soon as bossible to collect feedback such as yours
mircea_popescu: incidentally, no, that is the correct approach.
mircea_popescu: if you get liquidated, you get liquidated for everything you own
mircea_popescu: and, ideally, you're not allowed back in, either.
mircea_popescu: so don't get liquidated.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3006 @ 0.00062128 = 1.8676 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it is not the exchange's job to manage people's capital allocation.
mircea_popescu: it IS the exchange's job to punish the incompetent wannabes.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, well, that *is* insightful - i would be very glad if speculators acknowledged this
mircea_popescu: they'll acknowledge it just as soon as they don't have an option.
wywialm: you definitely made me think twice on this issue
danielpbarron got liquidated on bitcoinica
mircea_popescu: as a matter of principle - modern finance is mostly a bunch of entitled imbeciles trying for the lowest-effort approach. ideally, if they could just open a sack and money fell in kthx.
mircea_popescu: ther problem with this is that the actual work keeps being pushed on things that can't actually do it.
mircea_popescu: it's unsanitary - to make money you gotta do something useful.
mircea_popescu: if you don't really want to do anything, go webcam.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: to make money you gotta do something useful. << orly
ascii_field: on mircea_popescu's planet, perhaps
ascii_field: on mine, big money is made, 999 times of 1000, by theft or scam.
trinque: if you gain dollars, but lose purchasing power, are you making money?
mircea_popescu: looky here : copybook headings aren't gonna change through human effort. be it positive "har har, we're so good" or negative "har har, i'm a cynicist so this works now".
mircea_popescu: it just doesn't work that way.
Adlai: wywialm: i'm not complaining about the scheme, but rather the copyediting :)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you're roughly doing the equivalent to the "black supremacy" captioning you know.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: nobody cancelled thermodynamics, sure.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, yes, you are right - Quedex has issues that are more urgent than making mismanagement of risk pleasant
mircea_popescu: nobody cancelled thermodynamics and the worst thing you can do with your head is chase local maxima.
mircea_popescu: yeah, im sure in some soap bubble somehwere picket fences works!!1
ascii_field: except that this is why living things even ~have~ heads
mircea_popescu: who cares ? srsly. who ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00061195 = 24.6616 BTC [-]
ascii_field: to chase maxima.
mircea_popescu: yes. so ?
mircea_popescu: difference between humans and lions is that humans chase global maxima
wywialm: Adlai, oh, i didn't even notice - thanks for that!
ascii_field: picket fence ?
mircea_popescu: lions just get shot.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the usian ideal thing.
mircea_popescu: which is not either ideal or even desirable.
ascii_field: ideal as in it keeps the indians out ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google picket fences
ascii_field: or am i confusing fences
gribble: Picket Fences (TV Series 1992–1996) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103512/>; Picket Fences - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picket_Fences>; Picket Fences - TV.com: <http://www.tv.com/shows/picket-fences/>
ascii_field: 'The series follows the lives of the residents of the small town of Rome, Wisconsin, where weird things happen, including cows' udders exploding and a spate of people turning up dead in freezers. Struggling to maintain order in the community is Sheriff Jimmy Brock...'
mircea_popescu: check it out they made a show
mircea_popescu: before fucking tv executives tried to turn it into money, the expression denoted the sort of crammed, unsanitary, sexually repressed housing usians lived in post ww2 and brtught up the boomers.
mircea_popescu: "suburbia", the 1960s variant.
ascii_field: ah - levittowns.
mircea_popescu: where "the graudate" happened.
mircea_popescu: ten thousand billion times.
ascii_field: cult period in usa
ascii_field: like the early '80s in su, with caviar and japanese tape decks
ascii_field: mega-nostalgiatron
mircea_popescu: utter trash, too.
ascii_field: to folks growing up in shit, 'trash' is an upgrade
mircea_popescu: quite exactly.
mircea_popescu: "you can take the girl out of the trash, but you can't take the trash out of the girl principally because she perceives all the alternatives are shit"
shinohai: McMansions
trinque: I used to imagine a robot came and pressed these out of the ground one by one
wywialm: i was asked if i can give voice here - is it still true that only people in assbot L1 WoT may give voice?
ascii_field: trinque: they are made largely of, approximately, papier mache.
trinque: yup
trinque: I grew up in the Biggest and Best "master planned community" in TX
Adlai: wywialm: anybody in L2 can !up somenewbie, which gives them temporary voice; anybody in L1 can !rate somenewbie, putting them in L2 and enabling them to self-voice
trinque: !up n6
n6: ascii_field: I installed 1.4 gpg but am still getting the same error as before http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ
assbot: dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )
wywialm: Adlai, thanks again
mircea_popescu: "So my new little desktop app, which was quickly distributed to millions of unsuspecting checkbox-ignoring users, would “borrow” their existing Google session by reading their browser cookies, then invisibly “click” that App Store install button for them on apps that were paying us for distribution."
n6: googling around it seems like I might need a cert but don't really understand what its asking for.
ascii_field: what is this nonsense with sks using ssl anyway
ascii_field: i mean, wtf
trinque: gotta link everything to openssl
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: do we have a civilized keyserv yet
ascii_field: or do i have to
mircea_popescu: not afaik.
ascii_field: because this is fucking retarded
mircea_popescu: not a priority either.
mircea_popescu: eh just relax.
n6: ascii_field: Not sure I understand would turning off ssl fix this?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 1000 @ 0.00208192 = 2.0819 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45650 @ 0.0006191 = 28.2619 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.0006114 = 20.1456 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 5000 @ 0.00208192 = 10.4096 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 2450 @ 0.00208192 = 5.1007 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5306 @ 0.00060438 = 3.2068 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34739 @ 0.00061971 = 21.5281 BTC [+] {3}
wywialm: bye
TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 369298 | Current Difficulty: 5.269984240934701E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 370943 | Next Difficulty In: 1645 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.53083
trinque: !up thestringpuller
trinque: thestringpuller: good afternoon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48260 @ 0.00061681 = 29.7673 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56812 @ 0.00058826 = 33.4202 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: Think OPSEC!
trinque: lol
assbot: I switched to bitcoinxt to protest today incident : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1J719iv )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00062164 = 22.3169 BTC [+] {4}
trinque: which reminds me
trinque: those bastards at Just5 did not reply
shinohai: Read: It's ok if we censor debate *contrary* to XT
trinque: I suppose I am a filthy american who does not deserve fine Slovenian engineering, and Moscow design
shinohai: But don't do it to us, we'll melt down like tumblrinas
ascii_field: wai wut
ascii_field: !s just5
assbot: 2 results for 'just5' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=just5
trinque: ascii_field: pretty looking dumbphone I was considering
ascii_field: what's wrong with the chinese 'credit card phones' ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50800 @ 0.00062605 = 31.8033 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: Brick Red ... ( http://bit.ly/1J71wtB )
trinque: nothing in particular; I am still in the market for a suitable dumbphone
ascii_field: huge piece of shit
ascii_field: what'd the point ?
trinque: they all are
trinque: oh, neat
ascii_field: a dozen makers of this. about $20, give or take, in usa
trinque: extent of the thing's responsibilites are "yes I am still alive" and "yes I will go check out that server"
trinque: considered a beeper even
ascii_field: the slovenian thing is a 'hemingwriter'
kakobrekla: fine Slovenian engineering < last phone of this sorts was 'eta 80' afaik
ascii_field: kinda like a medieval reenactment party ~complete with black death~
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20640 @ 0.00060793 = 12.5477 BTC [-]
ascii_field: there is no reason for '90s bricks.
trinque: I was joking about fine slovenian engineering
kakobrekla wasnt!
trinque: thing looks like lunchbox plastic
punkman: they are just rebranded chinese phones
punkman: you can get them from the source
trinque: that credit card phone is appealing
punkman: the brick doesn't look too bad though, I don't think it's big
punkman: credit card phone comes with small battery
ascii_field: enough for a few days
ascii_field: srsly how big do you need it
punkman: that is definitely bigger than I thought
ascii_field: astonishing turd.
punkman: the other just5 models are regular size I think
ascii_field: not like they don't all use approximately same chipset
kakobrekla: you can still get nokias that dont run android
kakobrekla: new ones
ascii_field: fuck proprietary chargers.
assbot: Mobiset.ru: Just5 CP09 review - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu2tiA )
kakobrekla: lol chargers
kakobrekla: phone costs 20bux, standby time 30 days
kakobrekla: buy new one each time, no need to charge.
ascii_field: 30 days unless you ~use~ it...
ascii_field: (horrors)
kakobrekla doesnt use it.
ascii_field: carries it as blunt weapon ?
kakobrekla: yeah, like hammer.
ascii_field: then - perfect.
trinque: removable battery is important
trinque: buttons that aren't impossible would be nice
trinque: other than that, don't care, and would rather not be obligated to carry one
kakobrekla: buttons?
trinque: yeah I don't need no stinking touch screen
kakobrekla: you just need one.
trinque: !up n6
trinque: n6: what's up?
TheNewDeal: slightly off topic. anyone have favorite chess problem set?
trinque: !up ascii_field
n6: still working on http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html but not sure about my next step.. seems like my os is holding me back, still trying to build my spaceship but it starts with having sane tools maybe debian on the laptop then i can build this on the begalbone and then build the gentoo on the desktop?
assbot: [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca )
trinque: n6: sounds like you are taking on too much at once.
n6: I'm not sure if debian is going to be any better then this.
trinque: you need to focus on a single linux environment and get a foothold there
kakobrekla: step 1: get your wototron in order (or not)
n6: kakobrekla: I don't know what you mean.
shinohai: Which I why I suggested earlier he get a sane linux to get started.
trinque: n6: ^
kakobrekla: n6 your keys are all fucked is what i mean
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00061481 = 19.4895 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o )
n6: kakobrekla: yea I lost my old key, and am trying to find my way back the right way.
kakobrekla: fuckin assbot and his unhelpful help
trinque: lol
trinque: !gettrust n6
assbot: Trust relationship from user trinque to user n6: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=n6 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/n6/
kakobrekla: n6 that would prolly be a good step 1
trinque: gonna have to be n7 now
n6: I hope not.
kakobrekla: you dont have your key anymore ?
n6: nope.
kakobrekla: what else then
TheNewDeal: losr car key as well
n6: I had something in mind, but not sure anymore.
TheNewDeal: completely key less
kakobrekla: call nsa for backupz?
n6: I need to my sane sitaution in order before I can join the wot
assbot: Google is reorganizing under a new umbrella company called Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu4pYn )
shinohai: ^ alphabet with a few letters: nsa, fbi, etc
trinque: !b 2
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/11NGPES.txt )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82879 @ 0.00062749 = 52.0057 BTC [+] {4}
ascii_field: snore.
ascii_field: they can rename to 'fuckyou inc.' and what difference will it make to anyone ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117800 @ 0.00058956 = 69.4502 BTC [-] {9}
n6: I still need support with Pogotron would you mind helping me some more ascii_field not sure what i'm doing and everytime the help dries up my progress stops.
trinque: n6: what's called for there is you going and doing research at the points where you get stuck
trinque: and that may take some time
trinque: even if you end up with a working pogo, if you don't understand the steps which resulted in that, you've gained very little
n6: I don't see buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4.patch in the list of files.
n6: nvm.
assbot: Google is reorganizing under a new umbrella company called Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu4pYn )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00059582 = 5.0049 BTC [+]
trinque: wilbns: yes, that was linked not 20min ago
wilbns: ahhh i see it
wilbns: sorry about that
wilbns: shinohai: nice catch
assbot: 'Re: Repartitioning' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1J76uXe )
wilbns: i dunno how i missed that in front of my eyes
assbot: Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip ... ( http://bit.ly/1J76CWy )
wilbns: probably getting alzheimers, it's on both the paternal and maternal side of my fam #great
shinohai: The lawgs and qntra have replaced my newspaper with morning coffee.
n6: i'm getting "patch -pl < buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4_0567b86c55934a8b5d1351b4ccba9306ee3406c3.patch" when running patch -p1 < buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4.patch
n6: "patch: **** strip count l is not a number" *
shinohai: (/_-)
trinque: because it's a fucking L, dude
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00059582 = 2.6812 BTC [+]
trinque: !up n6
trinque: go, build ye a gentoo, and read 6mos of logs
trinque: only possible route forward
trinque: damn, now that's a database
shinohai: The logs are searchable yet!
punkman: barely
shinohai: Now the ethereum project will steal that pic punkman and use it on their "cloud-mining" webpage.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.0005862 = 7.8258 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00058914 = 18.6463 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: 57 arrested in Ferguson protests downtown; state of emergency declared in county : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1J78Xkk )
trinque: yep, one shot too, at least so far
BingoBoingo: USG agitators slacking on their Purge incitement
BingoBoingo: Though the 911 salon got looted again last night
BingoBoingo: When I went to get cigarettes earlier the Proprietor was being interviewed on KMOX. Sounded very close to going full Uncle Ruckus.
TheNewDeal: !down TheNewDeal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48808 @ 0.00058597 = 28.6 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00062389 = 8.5473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58350 @ 0.00059787 = 34.8857 BTC [-] {4}
shinohai: !up n6
shinohai: Further !ups will cost you 0.005 per until you get in wot like everyone else.
n6: Ok im going to install gentoo and get into the wot
shinohai: I should charge you for an hour + of my time you wasted this evening at my going rate of 0.15 per
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 1000 @ 0.00208192 = 2.0819 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00058516 = 10.094 BTC [-] {3}
n6: sorry for all the wasted time, still trying to make sense of all this.
trinque: n6: just gotta pick *one* thing and make sense of *that8
trinque: and accept that it may take some time.
shinohai: Pretty simple. Read logs. Don't ask people to help you do one thing, and do another. I have neither the time nor crayons for people like that.
mircea_popescu: aww, he ran alf out ? i was kinda enjoying the spectacle.
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 00:01:39; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1232838 << and when i tell mircea_popescu 'they own the backbone', he laughs
n6: trinque: my issue is i need an ethernet bridge to install gentoo and don't know how to do that.
n6: so maybe debian is my first step
trinque: maybe so
trinque: I dunno what you mean by bridge
trinque: I know what I'd mean, but
trinque: router?
trinque: they're cheap; get one, stick it between your modem and computers
n6: yes.
trinque: then in 6-12mos we can talk about replacing the thing with OpenBSD
trinque: if you keep asking along the way, you're going to get opinions from people which you're not prepared to implement
trinque: do something dumb, iterate on it
trinque: doing something the right way while having no idea how or why you're doing it, you gain nothing
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.
shinohai has a startac in the closet somewhere ....
mircea_popescu: if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.
shinohai: I recommended Debian because he obviously isn't quite experienced enough for Gentoo yet.
shinohai: I'm not sure if Barbie linux would run for him or not.
trinque: sorry fucking state really.
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/WUPNca3.jpg << if one can find any porn more perverse than this...
mircea_popescu: seriously, that's what the Puritan Fathers would do with young women.
mircea_popescu: max hardcore seems infinitely better a choice.
assbot: vintage everyday: Pictures of FBI’s Colossal Fingerprint Filing System During World War II ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nmfp4P )
trinque: I find the building beautiful, if the purpose vulgar
trinque: reminds me of a thread on the relationship between computers and bureaucracy
trinque looks for it
mircea_popescu: ftr she's not indignant, she's in shock.
punkman: "After France was liberated toward the end of World War II, French citizens who had supported the invading German troops in any form were tracked down and had their heads forcefully shaved as a badge of dishonor. As many as 20,000 French citizens had their heads shaved in public, the majority of which were women."
mircea_popescu: "women that had sex with german officers and enjoyed chocolate and stuff in preference of their poor and worthless countrymen were then brutalized by the later"
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell n6 Step 1: Just run OpenBSD for now Step 2: transcribe and build "Lions' Commentary on UNIX 6th Edition, with Source Code" Step 3: Six monthe of logs should be up, then you may Gentoo
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: Looks like you got your smokes just in time BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Oh, what happened nao?
shinohai: Shutting down I-70
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Nah, The Blanchette is between St Louis and Bumfuck Missouri. I-70 Bridge between me and StL is the "Stan Span"
shinohai: Good, you're safe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19173 @ 0.00058505 = 11.2172 BTC [-]
shinohai: Until the fires start.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Nah, I am in a very white part of Illinois.
shinohai: I live in a darker area than I'd like, but all-in-all it isn't bad.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32598 @ 0.00059289 = 19.327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153350 @ 0.00058423 = 89.5917 BTC [-] {6}
BingoBoingo: Living in a shittier area would be more fun, but It's nice knowing that the whopping 20 blacks in town don't make this a target for DOJ purge agitation
mircea_popescu: ". In spite of Zynga's hemorrhaging wallet and shrinking userbase shares still manage to trade on Nasdaq (archived) at $2.64 per share implying a market cap of $2,072,302,357 on a earnings per share of negative 19 cents."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00058222 = 14.4682 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fucking nuts.
shinohai: I have more Hispanics around me than anything. I see ICE agents on a regular basis.
BingoBoingo: Every few years ICE will bust one of the local mexican restaurants or small businesses here.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 300000 @ 0.0000299 = 8.97 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: is ice the anti-hispanic agency ?
shinohai: yup, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement
assbot: Facebook tax refund scam earns Arizona woman 6 years in jail | Naked Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmiOjX )
thestringpuller: anyone wanna trade btc for dr. dre's new album?
mircea_popescu: check it out, women in tech
mircea_popescu: hey dbit you there ?
mircea_popescu: "Even if you don't have any money of your own to scam, your data may well be of use to someone, and having your identity abused can mean trouble for you further down the line. So don't make it easy for the crooks - try to stick to sensible and cautious settings on your social media accounts, as far as the providers allow, and avoid sharing anything you wouldn't want the whole world to know."
mircea_popescu: how exactly does this follow ? it really is the govt's problem throughout, why should the cattle care one whit ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 500 @ 0.00208192 = 1.041 BTC
wilbns: BingoBoingo: my first job was at a car wash in Arkansas, ICE came at least one time I know of, possibly 2 and took some of the Mexicans I was working with away.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00060422 = 7.1902 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.
trinque: Trump's gonna build the great wall o' Texas; you'll see
trinque: with laser drones
trinque: I have to say watching the guy give speeches is entertaining the shit out of me
mircea_popescu: the part where 'mainstream' media superiorly dismissed some recent speech while popularity shot up was amusing enough.
wilbns: i think the whole subject of illegal immigration and subsequent media coverage is just a big misdirection play to stop people from banding together and asking real questions.
trinque: mircea_popescu: he's clearly doing well
mircea_popescu: what's the woman's name again, i forget. sounds just like a porn star.
trinque: megyn kelly?
trinque: that was the one he implied was on her period
trinque: he's somehow getting around the political correctness, and people seem to love it
punkman hopes "megyn" isn't a name
shinohai: Megynecologist
mircea_popescu: "somehow" = outright and pointedly ignoring it.
mircea_popescu: then derps go "o hello here is where you apologize" and the answer comes "no, this is where i'd fuck your mother, if her cunt didn't stink"
shinohai: She had no qualms about discussing penesis and such with Howard Stern, however.
trinque: haha
mircea_popescu: well, she believes penises are intrinsically superior to vulvas. she may or may not be right, but she's definitely sexist.
mircea_popescu: !up muruc
mats: lol
mats: hearing about the potus run secondhand makes me glad I don't waste cycles thinking about it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6743 @ 0.00059925 = 4.0407 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it's third hand technically. i heard it secondhand myself.
mats: irc is a string and tin cans
wilbns: as long as the masses are rallying to the side of democrats or republicans as their party of choice each election the people who are really in control will keep on having one - and the masses will be left to pick up the tab.
trinque: I don't care much about the presidency, but listening to Trump talk about how weak we look around the world, and having no qualms about being an asshole towards the rest of the machine, that's entertainment.
assbot: Copay wallet emptying vulnerability | blog.coinspect ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmmFhd )
mircea_popescu: wilbns well obviously ? what's next, the lightbulbs are gonna power the generator ?
mircea_popescu: the masses are the masses. ipso definition they pick the tab and someone else writes the bill.
mircea_popescu: bwahaha shinohai
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo qntra ?
shinohai: Run moar online wallets
mircea_popescu: "Copay is an easy-to-use multi-signature bitcoin wallet developed by BitPay to significantly decrease the risk of Bitcoin theft."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe? giving it a look real quick
wilbns: mircea_popescu: yes, yet this message is never heard nor processed. it is airgapped.
trinque: wilbns: you're assuming "they" need to hear the "message"
trinque: where in fact it's your perspective on their importance that needs to change
mircea_popescu: wilbns i agree with trinque
mircea_popescu: there's really no space, no need and no benefit from "the people" getting involved in managing other people's affairs.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: someone stole another one of your ideas: http://signmytits.com/en/preview/1089
mircea_popescu: it'd be splendid if they took a more active role managing theirs.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller writing on tits can not possibly have been my idea.
mircea_popescu: i've seen it done in egiptian tombs.
wilbns: sorry, not sure i get what part of the perspective needs to change?
thestringpuller: but no writing on boobs for...bitcoin?
wilbns: the masses or tptb?
trinque: wilbns: yours.
wilbns: "their importance" - not sure who they is
trinque: and I'm speaking as someone that went to more than one Ron Paul thing in the 08 election
trinque: there is no great awakening coming; what would that even look like?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller lmao what a fucking scam srsly... so he has some pictures, pngs text on it, wants to be paid serious dough for this and runs disqus to boot.
mircea_popescu: why does bitcoin attract the cream of the crop of imbecility ?
shinohai: Because without hundreds of features, how you gonna moon?
wilbns: trinque: i liked paul too. perhaps great change will come through cryptography and decentralization
trinque: people are "free" enough today that they could change anything they like
trinque: they don't. why?
trinque: you can go out into the street right now and start a riot, and the cops wont even kill that many people
mircea_popescu: for as long as it's growing they're not killing anyone.
mircea_popescu: that starts after it's gone no where for a year
mircea_popescu: as fergusson illustrates.
mircea_popescu: aka "peaceful protest is dumb - go for numerous protest instead"
trinque: yeah, there could be a tipping point where national guard operations happen
assbot: Introduce the beginnings of anti-DoS resource scheduling. · bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt@73c9efe · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nmohr0 )
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire_racism << pretty great read. wikipedia has (yet another) article on the insanity of sanity.
assbot: Laissez-faire racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmogmV )
mircea_popescu: apparently the best way to not be racist is by being racist in the currently fashionable manner, and so forth.
mircea_popescu: not giving a shit about the stupid preoccupations of the stupid is the worst crime.
mircea_popescu: and in NO CASE can people be responsible for their own lot, because hey, what scope does that live for politicianing!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: are the bitcoin "business" ideas really that much more stupid than those in bezzle-land?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00060422 = 3.2326 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: reminds me a little of that Deepak Chopra guy talking about quantum consciousness
trinque: bitcoin is weird, so you can project whatever nonsensical bullshit you want onto it
mircea_popescu: something like that.
mircea_popescu: "holistic" essentially denotes the inclination of economically driven, socially & intellectually marginal parasites to freely mix and match.
mircea_popescu: they're the equivalent of bacteria, and thus the behaviour is unsurprising - bacteria also survive principally because they're not too careful when exchanging dna bits.
mircea_popescu: consequently, "everything's one" and last year we were lolling at idiots doing "quantum miners".
mircea_popescu: because hey.
mircea_popescu: homeopathic string theory. why the fuck not ? the aloe vera wallet.
mircea_popescu: pot coin.
mircea_popescu: you name it.
trinque: hahaha
trinque hooks his quantum miner to his mr fusion
mircea_popescu: they're not even very good at it, incidentally. the space could be trivially ennumerated and then mechanically exploited.
mircea_popescu: "astrological brainwallets"
punkman: that's a pretty good one :D
mircea_popescu: "add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"
mircea_popescu: mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the proper nomenclature would be "creative people [that never learned any math]", tho the tail's usually omitted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00060423 = 7.9154 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 242200 @ 0.0001 = 24.22 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: soo, f16 in turkey now huh.
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mircea_popescu: "we don't believe in bears because we work on commission for our lively. hood."
mats: meanwhile, to my knowledge, assad still hasn't given approval for strikes against ISIS inside syria
mircea_popescu: they're mostly doing iraq border
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233737 << all these grunt labour slots - now freed up so folks can derp on reddit, aha
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:38:29; punkman: more pics http://www.vintag.es/2015/08/pictures-of-fbis-colossal-fingerprint.html
asciilifeform: (also shows how usg police state was already firmly in place in that period, for anyone who had doubts)
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:43:46; shinohai: To fight all that puritanism: https://giant.gfycat.com/FragrantColdHairstreak.webm
asciilifeform: srsly, am i the only straight bloke here or what
mircea_popescu: !up Varia_Varietatis
Varia_Varietatis: hey mircea_popescu working on my gpg now
mircea_popescu: aha ? who're you ?
Varia_Varietatis: Varia_Varietatis who else?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your idea of straightness is "have never observed a penis" ?
Naphex: clients get tracked and the rewards are sticky
mircea_popescu: interdasting Naphex
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but it means to me that the naked and juicing bits in pr0n ought to belong to females
asciilifeform: but then again that could be just me.
mats: lol
mircea_popescu: (i didn't see the thing in question, for some reason .webm comes out as a string of bits)
asciilifeform: it was an animated gif thing with a cycling cock center stage
mircea_popescu: all this institutionalized misandry.
mircea_popescu: female privilege is never having had your bits rejected for center stageness.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233785 << the usg-connected folks who specialize in bringing'em back in gotta eat !
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:20:17; shinohai: It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233849 << that was hearn's thing for years now, srsly
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:45:55; shinohai: The blacklisting begins: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's unclear to me pron can be judged through formal means.
asciilifeform: what is this 'begins.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: subjective, rather than formal; but how many seconds does it take ~you~ to realize that you won't be hardening to a particular pr0n
mircea_popescu: but yeah, the entire xt nonsense exists chiefly as a venue for various nobodies to exercise negative powers they don't actually have.
mircea_popescu: i won't bother looking at just how much this connotes their hunger for my cock, out of respect of asciilifeform's heterosexuality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think i ever got a pron erection.
asciilifeform: perhaps they wish to 'chortle on the balls' (tm) (r) ('silicon valley')
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:55:16; mircea_popescu: "add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"
mircea_popescu: i suspek pron erections work like erections work generally, which is to say, as a learned behaviour. people get erections like dogs salivate, more or less.
asciilifeform: just like the 'deoxygenated copper audiophile cable' and the monumental 'green marker for improving cd audio'
mircea_popescu: you could definitely train someone to get hard at the sight of ears
mircea_popescu: or hair.
mircea_popescu: the former i've actually observed irl.
asciilifeform: more commonly given example is shoes
asciilifeform: but betcha hair works in the land of the chador
mircea_popescu: yeah, very picket-fence-y this one. the usian housewive only wears heels the night she's gonna fuck "the master of the house", and so...
asciilifeform: (and a silhouette of a head is probably enough in the land of burqa)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very amusingly, the arabs a) don'
mircea_popescu: t react to the bare cunt much and b) can't actually draw the female body.
asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise
mircea_popescu: which is a pity because arab sluts have really nice ass/waist combos.
Varia_Varietatis: ;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
gribble: Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
asciilifeform: doesn't appear to be in sks
Varia_Varietatis: asciilifeform: how can I add it?
mircea_popescu: "Peer priorities are based on matching the connecting IP against a set of IP groups. For now, the only IP group is one that gives Tor exits a score of -10."
mircea_popescu: fucking retarded, seriously ? bayesian approach ?
mircea_popescu: that particular bit of pseudoscientific nonsense is not dying soon, is it.
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 11:41:31; mircea_popescu: and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key <KEYID> and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key <KEYID> where keyid you just copy from the line above.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck is it so intuitively obvious to stupid people that keeping a list of sins is practicable, useful or desirable.
kakobrekla: Varia_Varietatis it takes some time for key to be visible on sks, apart from that i think you might be hopping the wrong bot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because they are unable to synthesize
mircea_popescu: so how do they eat ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are the same folks who think that education consists of 'having read many learnedbooks'
mircea_popescu: this is how they eat. hence macdonalds and starbucks.
mircea_popescu: i think this is the principal stupidity.
mircea_popescu: the belief that sins are an ennumeration.
asciilifeform: not only sins
asciilifeform: they do everything via lookup table
asciilifeform: but more importantly, assume that this is the only possible way anything could be done.
mircea_popescu: sins are the basis of errything
asciilifeform: some supposedly 'intelligent' folks took this to ridiculous heights
asciilifeform: like doug lenat
asciilifeform: who said something like 'cognition is ten thousand if-statements'
asciilifeform: (improvement over the skinnerists, who thought it was... 4 if-statements)
mircea_popescu: the amusing thing to me is that all the libertard anglos read baudrillard, deleuze, lyotard, & co like the dog listens to music.
mircea_popescu: ten thousand if statements is pre fucking saussure ffs.
mircea_popescu: an understanding of things up to the most recent discoveries & bleeding edge of understanding cca 1815
Varia_Varietatis: kakobrekla: Hopping the wrong bot?
mircea_popescu: you want assbot
mircea_popescu: !like so
Varia_Varietatis: !gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B
Varia_Varietatis: like that?
danielpbarron: you don't need your nickname in the query
kakobrekla: !register <full_gpg_keyid>
assbot: Nick kakobrekla is already taken.
danielpbarron: and that doesn't look to be long enough for a fingerprint
kakobrekla: how many asseteers to register a key?
Varia_Varietatis: How can I check if its on the key server yet?
danielpbarron: one way is to get the command right
asciilifeform: !up Varia_Varietatis
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233727 << yes, i had one. no, i can't think of a reason to tear my pockets with it again
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:33:07; mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.
asciilifeform: why not return to the '80s briefcase phone, too
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:34:45; mircea_popescu: if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.
Varia_Varietatis: I put in my full finger print with spaces and without didnt work.
BingoBoingo: !up n6 Tell these kind folks what you accomplished today.
n6: I installed open bsd
n6: thanks to everyone who helped.
BingoBoingo: n6: And you are going to continue consulting the man pages when things go wrong?
n6: Yes, im done with the ubuntu style of copy paste guide.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you had a favourite book re: openbsd i recall ?
asciilifeform: perhaps n6 would like it.
n6: I will be reading that asap
n6: and the unix book you told me about.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "Absolute OpenBSD"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Book also has danielpbarron's endorsement
danielpbarron: yes, and OpenBSD is very easy to install
danielpbarron: almost a joy
n6: got gentoo installed only to lose my lsub, and have my ethernet router stepped on in such a way all 4 ports went out.
n6: Couldn't recover after that.
BingoBoingo: Just remember OpenBSD still contains plenty of ways to hang yourself. On the plus side almost all of them are very well documented.
Varia_Varietatis: I still can't seem to join the wot. putting in my full keyid 95AD4E4BD126595B
mircea_popescu: that's half a keyid.
mircea_popescu: mine's 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 not 76998A736F0E2FB7B452
Varia_Varietatis: How do I get that out of gpg?
mircea_popescu: --fingerprint
assbot: Public Key Server -- Get "0x95ad4e4bd126595b " ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmBz76 )
asciilifeform back, was playing with his first proper crusscut shredder
asciilifeform: *crosscut
asciilifeform: thing claims to cut disks, even.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eauth Varia_Varietatis
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
gribble: Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
mircea_popescu: wrong bot still.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 02:56:31; jayk: !register 7AA64CBF8362275B2189869784A13BE284D27F50
Varia_Varietatis: danielpbarron, Already did that in pm trying to auth now.
danielpbarron: do it in here
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I had a cheap crosscut machine that experience the general mysterious "stopped working" failure mode most consumer products from walmart do.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the eventual fate of all things
danielpbarron: !gettrust Varia_Varietatis
assbot: Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user Varia_Varietatis: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=danielpbarron&to=Varia_Varietatis | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Varia_Varietatis/
danielpbarron: ah, you are registered. Now type /msg assbot !up
asciilifeform: pretty sure that all shredders other than perhaps petrol-powered 'enron'-grade units, will croak after a thousand pgs or so
Varia_Varietatis: Need a better rating.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ah.
danielpbarron: Varia_Varietatis, that's your next step then :D
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: doesn't hurt to oil the thing, also.
asciilifeform: like any other cutting tool
Varia_Varietatis: ;;rate BingoBoingo should have better read his gpg guides.
gribble: Error: 'should' is not a valid integer.
BingoBoingo: Of course.
Varia_Varietatis: ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 should have better read his gpg guides.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
BingoBoingo: Varia_Varietatis: Oh, that one's outdated as far as bot registration for this channel goes
asciilifeform: still using wrong bot
asciilifeform: Varia_Varietatis: gribble is no longer used here
Varia_Varietatis: !rate BingoBoingo 1 should have read his gpg guides better.
assbot: You must be rated before you can rate.
Varia_Varietatis: So now what?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my tm shredder cut ~78k pages. electric. diamond blades.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spiffy
asciilifeform: if i had 78k pgs in one crate, would probably just burn'em
mircea_popescu: if you recall, i burned the shreds.
BingoBoingo: Varia_Varietatis: Do any of us know you from anywhere? Forgive me. My memory is imperfect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, yes!
Varia_Varietatis: I used to be n6 but lost my key.
mircea_popescu: sop. at least in civilised circles.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card
n6: here I am two places at once
BingoBoingo: !rate Varia_Varietatis 1 New, Ambitious, reading man pages
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f144d627770cc7cd
asciilifeform: 'borrow 500k! you know you wanna!!1111!!11'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are pestilential here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hence why even the lowliest schmuck owns shredder
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.Varia_Varietatis.1:11486eec2825b32310ab05b0307c68cc85468a2f8e867bd28f1c4beb2442d430
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for Varia_Varietatis with note: New, Ambitious, reading man pages
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card << Why are you so afraid of burning petro-strange?
Varia_Varietatis: !rate BingoBoingo wrote the gpg guide.
assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
Varia_Varietatis: !rate BingoBoingo 1 wrote the gpg guide.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/2f8c24bf26164b4d
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: don't like the smell. and neighbours won't either
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i live in 'civilization', recall.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I forget "east coast"
BingoBoingo: Burning strange is much more acceptable in this region
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233875 << i might have said this before, but if this is actually possible, i'm probably it
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:57:29; mircea_popescu: mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.
TomServo: I'm late to the party, but thought I'd report my 0.5.3.1 is also wedged @ 367850.
TomServo: I can provide logs if it's of any help.
asciilifeform: TomServo: long ago fixed
BingoBoingo: TomServo: Rebuilt editing db.cpp to much higher settings
TomServo: Effort better spent building rotor?
assbot: [BTC-dev] (CORRECTED) Bullet in the Forehead for the BDB LocksIdiocy ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWNo0i )
asciilifeform: TomServo: and yes, i recommend rotor.
asciilifeform: but rotor doesn't tell you what patches to use
asciilifeform: that is up to you.
asciilifeform: (once mod6 and ben_vulpes come up with an official release - can use that, also)
TomServo: I'm probably too slow to be much use, but what are the current requests for testing? still TEST2? or rotor?
BingoBoingo: WHy not TEST2 in rotor?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "it" what ?
asciilifeform: 'visual think'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9957 @ 0.00059925 = 5.9667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14618 @ 0.00059629 = 8.7166 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20043 @ 0.00059774 = 11.9805 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10181 @ 0.00059924 = 6.1009 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo got new 64 GB usb drive to day for blockchain backup, formats as FFS
BingoBoingo: !up Varia_Varietatis
BingoBoingo: !unrate Varia_Varietatis
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/737bb735f5f3e07a
Varia_Varietatis: Guys I forgot the passphase on the key I just made.
mircea_popescu: !down Varia_Varietatis
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.unrate.Varia_Varietatis:0849b388f960f2692a5f90663ca03599e09d7f361ee68674225ed865270b9ae8
assbot: Successfully unrated Varia_Varietatis
BingoBoingo: 6 months apply again
lobbes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233054 << made a few config changes to it; was set to check feeds every 2 minutes, now checks every 30. Currently monitoring it on my test channel.
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 03:13:24; asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can we has the bot back plz ?
lobbes: This is just a workaround, though. I still have to discern where in the code it zeros out the cache. So I'm not confident putting back into 'production' just yet.
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, you know the Coinspect blog post is more than a year old right ?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: It was brought to my attention today and the story has an important moral. Don't set conditions for letting a machine automatically sign your shit.
BingoBoingo: Because that's probably the next -XT feature.
mircea_popescu: Fri, 07/25/2014 darn
mircea_popescu: well, i never noticed.
Apocalyptic: yeah that's worthwhile to point out, just that it's not really newsworthy
BingoBoingo: Eh, I'll remove the "news" tag
BingoBoingo: At least it happened before Qntra
mircea_popescu: soo, somewhat interesting, maybe. 1984 was actually born at a precise place : "In nationalist thought there are facts which are both true and untrue, known and unknown. A known fact may be so unbearable that it is habitually pushed aside and not allowed to enter into logical processes, or on the other hand it may enter into every calculation and yet never be admitted as a fact, even in one's own mind." appears in a 194
mircea_popescu: 5 piece denouncing "nationalism". which, at the time, simply denoted what socialism (or "liberalism" as it usually self-identifies) denotes today : the ideology of stupid people.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit :
mircea_popescu: "Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should–in which, for example, the Spanish Armada was a success or the Russian Revolution was crushed in 1918–and he will transfer fragments of this world to the history books whenever possible. Much of the propagandist writing of our time amounts to plain forgery. Ma
mircea_popescu: terial facts are suppressed, dates altered, quotations removed from their context and doctored so as to change their meaning. Events which it is felt ought not to have happened are left unmentioned and ultimately denied [Note, below]. In 1927 Chiang Kai Shek boiled hundreds of Communists alive, and yet within ten years he had become one of the heroes of the Left. The re-alignment of world politics had brought him into
mircea_popescu: the anti-Fascist camp, and so it was felt that the boiling of the Communists 'didn't count', or perhaps had not happened. The primary aim of propaganda is, of course, to influence contemporary opinion, but those who rewrite history do probably believe with part of their minds that they are actually thrusting facts into the past. When one considers the elaborate forgeries that have been committed in order to show that T
mircea_popescu: rotsky did not play a valuable part in the Russian civil war, it is difficult to feel that the people responsible are merely lying. More probably they feel that their own version was what happened in the sight of God, and that one is justified in rearranging the records accordingly."
mircea_popescu: replace "nationalist" with "socialist" (or, if you prefer to use the self term, "liberal") and note how the ideology of the stupid still behaves today in the manner it behaved then.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 02:51:24; mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/ea19b4078947b7a8f275fb8f95b8a0ef/tumblr_miprrmQSJO1s0bp20o1_500.gif special for alfie
asciilifeform: that cock isn't even parked
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:14:33; mircea_popescu: meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit :
mats: i am fond of that actress
mircea_popescu: i'm slow.
asciilifeform: !s nationalist is haunted by the belief
assbot: 2 results for 'nationalist is haunted by the belief' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nationalist+is+haunted+by+the+belief
mircea_popescu: mats you know her ?
mats: nah. i know of her
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except it pointedly has nothing to do with "nationalist"
mircea_popescu: it's just the twerp who wants to "be part of something"
mircea_popescu: "and help change the world"
mats: you know, in her professional capacity as an actress.
asciilifeform: it had to do with certain folks of the period who did, well, what mr o describes
asciilifeform: but not 'nationalist' in the usual sense, no
mircea_popescu: yeah, because they didn't have reddit yet. same govt jobs, tho.
asciilifeform: approximately.
asciilifeform: also related:
asciilifeform: 'ONE way of feeling infallible is not to keep a diary. Looking back through the diary I kept in 1940 and 1941 I find that I was usually wrong when it was possible to be wrong. Yet I was not so wrong as the Military Experts. Experts of various schools were telling us in 1939 that the Maginot Line was impregnable, and that the Russo-German Pact had put an end to Hitler’s eastwards expansion; in early 1940 they were telling us
asciilifeform: that the days of tank warfare were over; in mid 1940 they were telling us that the Germans would invade Britain forthwith; in mid 1941 that the Red army would fold up in six weeks; in December 1941, that Japan would collapse after ninety days; in July 1942, that Egypt was lost and so on, more or less indefinitely. Where now are the men who told us those things? Still on the job, drawing fat salaries. Instead of the unsinkable
asciilifeform: battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .'
assbot: 17 December 1943 - As I Please - George Orwell, Book, etext ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzTnjj )
mircea_popescu: "(iii) COLOUR FEELING. The old-style contemptuous attitude towards 'natives' has been much weakened in England, and various pseudo-scientific theories emphasising the superiority of the white race have been abandoned.[Note, below] Among the intelligentsia, colour feeling only occurs in the transposed form, that is, as a belief in the innate superiority of the coloured races. This is now increasingly common among Englis
mircea_popescu: h intellectuals, probably resulting more often from masochism and sexual frustration than from contact with the Oriental and Negro nationalist movements."
mircea_popescu: i guess i restated orwell.
asciilifeform: hey whatcanyado, man had eyes, saw.
mats: i found out today my former verizon wireless grandfathered unlimited plan is worth 1k on ebay
mircea_popescu: moreover, the purely sexual drive of the entire "black superiority" notion held strictly by pencilnecked white guys is glaring.
mats: craziness
mircea_popescu: mats get used to it. this is how socialism goes.
asciilifeform: mats: prolly not really transferable
mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
asciilifeform: prolly most famous example in the world is nyc flats
mats: you can transfer ownership to someone else, i met a guy today that bought it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "rent controlled" ones, yes
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .' << The "men" were defeating "analysis"
mats: he travels for work and the plan is entirely unthrottled, uses 3-400gb of LTE every month
asciilifeform: mats: it is unclear to me what precisely obligates verizon to keep renewing these contracts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00059484 = 12.9675 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: it isn't the rental of hongkong, there were no spans denominated in centuries in there
mats: prob customer loyalty
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234169 << when i was in timis., my brain melted upon seeing what looked very much like my childhood dumpsters
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:25:45; mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234132 << mozart did have a sister. who, iirc, did not compose, but played passably
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:16:11; mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
BingoBoingo: Oh, apparently reddit admins just straight up changed the moderators of /r/PunchableFaces
asciilifeform: much of what we know of the man's mind comes from letters to his sister, srsly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you see the film ?
asciilifeform: no film
asciilifeform: just the letters
mircea_popescu: is what i was speaking towards.
asciilifeform: what film
mircea_popescu: libertards made a film about "mozart as a woman", but not actually insane enough to just do it, so it came out a sort of pancake.
mircea_popescu: it cost me some stuff i won't disclose,
mircea_popescu: i had a long standing bet that the "nationalists" will make a "shakespeare was a woman. rly. " attempt at rewriting history to fit the agenda
mircea_popescu: or you know, what they perceive is right in god's eye.
asciilifeform: they also have a long-standing idiocy re: einstein, on same pattern
asciilifeform: he is also in the queue for a film, i imagie.
mircea_popescu: "Nationalistic attachment to the coloured races is usually mixed up with the belief that their sex lives are superior, and there is a large underground mythology about the sexual prowess of Negroes."
asciilifeform: *imagine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is his female name noether ?
asciilifeform: nah that would make some semblance of sense
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps the most objectionable part of these fried chicken niggers, clogging government with their unwelcome corpses.
asciilifeform: the liberast version is instead that 'he stole from his ex-wife'
mircea_popescu: instead of learning the world as it is, they dream up an infinitely boring-er, stolid-er, like them-er one.
asciilifeform: naturally
asciilifeform: who wants to wake up to being garbage
mircea_popescu: i'd be curious to see what'd happen to one of these scumcanoes should they get somehow magically stuck into seeing themselves with the eyes of a sane person.
mircea_popescu: that'd make one great film.
asciilifeform: no doubt this film will be made. one day.
mircea_popescu: 3 hours of this, julia roberts going slowly insane while seeking the help of an entire array of "experts" to make reality CEASE!11
asciilifeform: but will likely have the flavour of 'donald duck in nazi-land'
mircea_popescu: maybe she could blow her brains out at the premiere, right on the red carpet.
asciilifeform: failing this, theatre will have to pass out tabs of lsd with tickets
BingoBoingo: OH, /r/punchablefaces was turned over to SJW's and Libertards supporting Bernie Sanders revolted
mircea_popescu: or even make the tickets be the tabs
asciilifeform: it is difficult to make convincing films about insane folks
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao
asciilifeform: but technology can help!!11
mircea_popescu: yeah, one of the best to date (good will hunting) was drastically unconvincing
mircea_popescu: points for "best effort", but still.
asciilifeform: it was a mega-letdown
asciilifeform: i expected things from that film.
mircea_popescu: never a good idea
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently much of reddit was upvoating multiple posts of the #Blacklivesmatter Hamplanet who got a bernie sanders speech canceled as an /r/punchableface this was followed by Reddit censorship in the name of Cliter. Now there's a fuckton of wholes becasue no one on reddit uses archive.is
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter.
mircea_popescu: fill me in ?
mircea_popescu: (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?)
BingoBoingo: And yet, Black owned businesses are still being looted in Fergeson by niggers to the point Black people hate niggers
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?) << Yes
mircea_popescu: this was in dispute ?
mircea_popescu: why do they say "black lives" when they mean "the lives of blacks" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter. << The democrat running against Cliter in the presidential primary who admits to being a socialist
asciilifeform: as with all usg slogans, it has a very reversed 'freedom is slavery' meaning in reality
BingoBoingo: Because they lack "Pro Grammar"
asciilifeform: flip the bits
assbot: [BRDSCUSSION] Reddit is in the throes of a white supremacist meltdown regarding Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders : ShitRedditSays ... ( http://bit.ly/1huyVlB )
mircea_popescu: who's the white supremacist ? the hamplanet or sanders ?
mircea_popescu: "Multiple sisters in BRD such as /u/topyka2"
mircea_popescu: what's a sister in brd ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Both are Black supremacists.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The complication and number of steps you have to understand are "essential propaganda noise"
mircea_popescu: so wait. the black people that have no pro-grammar make the lives of blacks matter by opposing the campaign appearances of a white guy that runs against a white woman for the nomination to presidency of the democratic party ?
BingoBoingo: The hamplanet was black and Bernie Sanders is this cycle's prime food stamp candidate
mircea_popescu: so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ?
mircea_popescu: and the only place where this matters is reddit, much in the way the only place you find bilge is down in the keel ?
BingoBoingo: "I'm not so prepared to dismiss this protest as "poorly researched" or "poorly executed." I feel like this protest follows a pattern that's so common in feminist and queer circles that we should recognize and expect it now: we critique each other to make our movement inclusive and intersectional, so that our spaces might reject all oppressive forms. When a queer bar isn't entirely inclusive to people that aren't cis-white-rich-gay
BingoBoingo: men, it's much easier to critique and change that bar into one that is inclusive than to petition the nearest straight bar. When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist, we call her out (yet we don't call out men or women who do not identify as feminist with nearly such vigor). Why? Because we hope that these people are much more inclined to listen and to uplift further marginalized people and movements.
BingoBoingo: When no candidate is in full support of your movement, it's going to be easiest to convince the one that is somewhat supportive to do a better job than to convince your greatest enemy to do a slightly less shitty job."
mircea_popescu: "We here at /r/ShitRedditSays are taking the firm policy"
mircea_popescu: who's "we here" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ? << up, see above
mircea_popescu: "feminist and queer circles" ?
mircea_popescu: isn't this insulting to the actual shape involved ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The collective farm we. The gulag's vote as reported in Washington
mircea_popescu: which is more like a donut
BingoBoingo: It's insulting to literacy in general
mircea_popescu: well that's a given
BingoBoingo: No language should have to suffer this attempt at persuasive prose.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the faux-soviet terminology is endearing. such wannabes.
BingoBoingo: C++ is embarrassed right now that an English speaker birthed it
mircea_popescu: "When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist"
mircea_popescu: who's taylor swift ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it was this season's britney spears
pete_dushenski: she is, but $200 mn 'dollars' worth
pete_dushenski: i didn't make this up
mircea_popescu: so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ?
BingoBoingo: Taylor Swift could actually get the dick though. Britney Chain always had the crazy.
funkenstein_: we need dave chapelle back to straighten all this out for us
mircea_popescu: is that the black pothead ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ? << Swift like Beyonce used the word feminist thinking it would "expand their market"
funkenstein_: not sure, depends on your context
pete_dushenski: "name da 5 best rappers of all time : dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan"
mircea_popescu: he;'s the dude with the nigger family sketch right ?
funkenstein_: yeah :)
funkenstein_: and the racial draft
funkenstein_: and who was it Clayton Biggles?
pete_dushenski: and the black white supremacist.
funkenstein_: ^
pete_dushenski: bigsby iirc
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> and the black white supremacist. << Old meme. Been done since 1620
mircea_popescu: "However, as this matter might not be fully understood, we would like to open a space for discussion in order to further understanding. The usual rules about circlequeefing and Rule X (to an extent) do not apply in this thread, however we expect discussion to be in good faith and a genuine attempt to understand the white supremacy behind the angry reactions to Black Lives Matter's quite frankly highly successful and ex
mircea_popescu: tremely necessary protesting. Note that this is not a debate. The angry backlash at Black Lives Matter is pure white supremacy and this is not up for compromise, however there are few sources for understanding why this fact is, and we would like to help our sisters in BRD understand them better."
funkenstein_: i'm still a free agent
mircea_popescu: can i have this translated to english ?
mircea_popescu: and wtf are "the sisters in brd" already.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It doesn't translate to anything
asciilifeform: what next translated to english? the schizo bum ranting on the corner also has material for translation !
asciilifeform: and likely - more interesting
mircea_popescu: "Gynocratic Council
mircea_popescu: High Chancellor of Free Speech"
mircea_popescu: i'm surprised "at large" isn't in there.
mircea_popescu: perhaps too uncomfortable.
mircea_popescu: "gynocratic councillor at large" sounds pretty apt for plenty of these tho
BingoBoingo: Dude had a campaign rally, dark Hamplanet hijacked the stage because can't afford cameras, supporters of candidate suddenly racist
pete_dushenski: 'and in charge' tailing that
mircea_popescu: Of the top 50 /r/punchablefaces, 42 of them are about the BLM protestors. The top 10 have a combined total of over 47k points, more than 3x the amount of points than what Obama's AMA got, or hell even twice the top post of all time from me_irl.
mircea_popescu: bwhgahaha
mircea_popescu: so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ?
mircea_popescu: where is it ?
mircea_popescu: who was derping on about how the circle-queef to use its self-given name was in charge of the us ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ? << Actual libertards love Bernie Sanders because he confesses to being socialist. Lizard Libertards want Clitler so... Social media fight
BingoBoingo: Basically this is all an intra libertard fight
mircea_popescu: But here’s the thing – what’s powerful about these interruptions from Black women is less how it has changed the tone of the Democratic campaigns and more about what they have exposed in the White left.
mircea_popescu: I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues.
mircea_popescu: well doh. who the fuck cares. blacks are what 11% ?
BingoBoingo: But the Handlers never imagined that one sect would go so over the rails in the name of "intersectionality" that the Level 1 socialists could defeat the Lv 65 NPC pan-racial boss by swarming
mircea_popescu: not notable. and in any case already overrepresented and overcatered.
mircea_popescu: not to mention the part where most black people actually would rather be NOT part of the little africa ghetto these fucktards are trying to build.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues. << This is the great problem of "the people" as a construct.
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, center black people ? what is this.
mircea_popescu: next we're going to center bitcoin around the power rangers or some equally deranged shit,
mircea_popescu: because a vague affiliation with a crumbly, 1/10 base can be parlayed into interest through speaking really loudly.
BingoBoingo: "the people" as retarded in development as it necessarily is always presents as a unified mass when it is really a bunch of things that don't agree on a single point.
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