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trinque: if you presuppose my involvement in some agreement between other people, you've presupposed me right out of the conversation in both cases!
trinque: lol
trinque: if I haven't signed something, it has been forced upon me
trinque: to state the obvious
funkenstein_: to quote noone you are likely to consider sane, you signed up when you chose to be born
trinque: the social contract is religious bullshit
funkenstein_: !up Vexual
Vexual: hi hi
funkenstein_: I'm not sure what the social contract is. As you point out, I didn't sign it
Vexual: oysters cost 0 if you find them
trinque: or "you are not your own but were bought at a price"
trinque: corinthian's something something
trinque: or any other such brainwashing which precludes my own decisionmaking
decimation: trinque: but in that case Paul is referring to those who believe in Jesus
trinque: sure and my parents had me baptised
trinque: so I'm his bondslave for life according to this or that interpretation of folk legends
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decimation: if your point is that your salvation is involuntary, I don't think that is correct, but Christians do disagree on this point
trinque: point is people with mouths can declare anything at all
trinque: that doesn't mean that I acknowledge it
decimation: indeed. yet, you were born, fed, taught, and you will die.
trinque: when someone says "there is a social contract" that's just a backdoor way of saying "you shall accept the implications of there being a social contract"
trinque: I might revise that further to "I shall force you to behave as though there were such a thing as a social contract."
trinque: though the "I" in the sentence may not be the speaker
funkenstein_: so what behavior are we talking about here?
decimation: trinque: note that many people would replace orthodox Christianity with some kind of warmed-over socialism, that doesn't make their socialism Christianity (as loudly as they might protest otherwise)
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trinque: decimation: I grant that
trinque: wouldn't it be nice for a man to call a command a command, so you know what freedom you actually have
trinque: if any.
trinque: the destruction of the language in order to convince slaves they are not slaves costs far too much
Vexual: such acrux
trinque: decimation: I've heard it called "stealing your stolen from" around here, and it's exactly on the mark
trinque: so then going back to the "state", if the "state" is this, then a "state" is *not* the aggregate of agreements made by free men
trinque: might be nice to give that one it's own word
funkenstein_: in practical use, the state is whatever the guy with the gun tells you it is
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trinque: funkenstein_: things are what they are, though we may be forced to call them otherwise
funkenstein_: yhwh wasn't interested in this new testament stuff
funkenstein_: trinque, indeed. sounds like a small statement but you have just affirmed something big methinks
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funkenstein_: while we're here, http://www.theonion.com/video/onn-exclusive-one-on-one-interview-with-god-37236
assbot: ONN Exclusive: One-On-One Interview With God - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ie5mul )
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assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 276 @ 0.00494424 = 1.3646 BTC [-] {9}
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punkman: !up Vexual
Vexual: hello
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Vexual: whats for breakfast punkman?
punkman: tea and crumpets
Vexual: hmm, sounds like london
Vexual: no fried haloumi?
punkman: I do have a piece left, maybe for lunch
Vexual: im jealous
punkman: don't fry it though, better toasted/grilled
Vexual: noted
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punkman: punkman's salad suggestion: purslane, rocket, cherry tomatos and grilled haloumi
Vexual: what would you serve that with?
punkman: can't go wrong with steak
Vexual: if i cant find purslane?
punkman: then you gotta buy some seeds
Vexual: lol, but im salivating
Vexual: ill ask the asians for a tropicaal quqivalent
Vexual: bok choi stems maybe
Vexual: snapper is in season too
Vexual: watercress?
punkman: well anything will do, it's salad
Vexual: sounds good
punkman: any snail farmers down under?
Vexual: maybe in tas or melb
Vexual: you eat em?
punkman: not too often, I got a box of them fattening up though
punkman: fry them with garlic and rosemary
Vexual: ive never tried
Vexual: i dont think theyd grow here, never see wild ones
Vexual: what do they eat? old lettuce?
punkman: white flour
Vexual: do they prefer dampper, or just flour?
Vexual: do you make it into dough and cook it?
punkman: !up Vexual
punkman: no the box gets pretty gross
Vexual: id rather a box of ducks to be hosnest, but id eat it
Vexual: do you wash them?
Vexual: or does the slime go into the sauce?
punkman: gotta give them a scrub, and check for casualties
Vexual: ok im salivating, thanks for the recipies, im off to raid a southerners letterbox
assbot: Security advisory - E-Detective Lawful Interception System ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSIWTY )
punkman: "The .tar file must be encrypted with the static key /tmp/.charlie. Yes, that's the actual key - the software passes the wrong argument to OpenSSL. -K is used to pass the keyfile instead of -kfile, meaning that the key is the path of the keyfile rather than the contents"
Vexual: failing that ill buy a snapper
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cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163790 <<< c'mon, i even dropped it back to once a month instead of the twice monthly update.. i find the mining diff stuff interesting in anycase
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2015 13:57:09; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163764 << lol, do we get a newspiece every time this happens? 'you're older than you've ever been and now you're even older, ..., and now you're older still!' (tm) (r)
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHe8hHRWIAAG_6z.jpg "Apologies if you've already seen a raccoon riding an alligator today."
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 01:10:08; BingoBoingo: Fupa Duped https://i.imgur.com/s4OD455.jpg
cazalla: still training BingoBoingo?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Still working in that direction
cazalla: i had another sober weekend so half way there to a sober month of June
BingoBoingo: Last weekend banged up my knee and wrist pretty bad in a unknown incident while drunk, which lead to a slowdown last week but not a cessation of activities
cazalla: damn, must've been blind
cazalla: i'm feeling so good i even banged the missus twice and here i thought it was cause i long ago grew tired of her, must've been the booze after all
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assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 06:54:38; punkman: punkman's salad suggestion: purslane, rocket, cherry tomatos and grilled haloumi
cazalla: i don't mind a bit of holy flax too
punkman: flaxseed?
cazalla: nah, Santolina rosmarinifolia
cazalla: they also call it olive herb down under
punkman: don't think I've tried that one
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cazalla: it pretty much tastes like olives
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jurov: for good measure(and smell) don't forget some bear garlic foliage(allium ursinum).
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davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu pls to x.eur
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes best papamobile is two-seat papamobile ! bold (and beautiful) play !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo aha yes. wd there !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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pete_dushenski: " When a retired 51-year-old military man disclosed in a U.S. security clearance application that he had a 20-year affair with his former college roommate's wife, it was supposed to remain a secret between him and the government."
pete_dushenski: what on earth would possess one to disclose such a thing on a fucking application form, in triplicate...
pete_dushenski: " The man had kept the affair secret from his wife for two decades before disclosing it on the government's innocuously named Standard Form 86 (SF 86), filled out by millions of Americans seeking security clearances. "
pete_dushenski: "The SF 86 form, which is 127-pages long, is extraordinarily comprehensive and intrusive. "
pete_dushenski: of course, the database has been... hacked.
pete_dushenski: by the chinese!
pete_dushenski: or mebbe somalians. tough to say at this point.
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assbot: I am one of the millions affected by the OPM hack | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1R0F5Ew )
pete_dushenski: punkman: lel
pete_dushenski: ""It's kind of scary that somebody could know that much about us," said a former senior U.S. diplomat, pointing out the ability to use such data to impersonate an American official online, obtain passwords and plunder bank accounts."
pete_dushenski: no shit sherlock.
pete_dushenski: turns out that when you spill the beans to a piece of paper in a drawer, someone can go in and read that piece of paper !
pete_dushenski: seriously, what are the chances of this NOT happening.
pete_dushenski: slim, i'd say.
pete_dushenski: "I’m also worried they are going to identify agents in law enforcement." << exactly the plot of 'spy', this.
pete_dushenski: database hacked by , agent identity and locations revealed, cover blown,
pete_dushenski: *by 'terrorists'
pete_dushenski: only solution is to put landwhale deskjockeys into the field !
jurov: ppl will do anything for 'good' job. i'm fully expecting to see alf grappling with this someday
jurov: access to golden toilet vs. anal probing clearance
punkman: "Weird 64MB favicon.ico turning out to be a TAR backup of the whole WP site, downloaded by every browser passing by... "
pete_dushenski: punkman: eh ? how's that work ?
punkman: I guess you just rename your .tar to .ico
pete_dushenski: "In 2010, LEGO unleashed LEGO Universe, a massive, multiplayer game where builders of all ages could create whatever they wanted on their own digital plots. Well, almost anything: LEGO didn’t want any of the players to endow its online world with penises. After all, it was meant to be a kid-friendly place in which phalluses had no role—even its mini-fig citizens were dickless."
pete_dushenski: heh. 'lego universe' is the un-eulora.
pete_dushenski: punkman: ah ok.
jurov: you were able to build penis in eulora? how?
jurov: *craft
jurov: or show, whatever
pete_dushenski: "Management “wanted a creative building MMO [massively multiplayer online-game] with a promise of zero penises seen,” tweeted Megan Fox, a developer who worked on the project,"
pete_dushenski: jurov: i was more thinking along the lines of the upskirt angle
pete_dushenski: "We were asked to make dong detection software for LEGO Universe too. We found it to be utterly impossible at any scale.”"
pete_dushenski: lolk this is priceless
assbot: LEGO Universe had a huge 'dong detection' problem, says former developer | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1R0Icwk )
punkman: heh
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asciilifeform: jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164365 << bit of a contradiction here? 'good job' is precisely where there is a minimum of hours-doing-things/unit-of-pay
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:20:49; jurov: ppl will do anything for 'good' job. i'm fully expecting to see alf grappling with this someday
jurov: why a contradiction? i imagine most jobs at NSA to be such
asciilifeform: jurov: not exactly. they make you work a full shift, for instance.
jurov: aha
asciilifeform: as in, gotta actually show up there
asciilifeform: and without own computer or just about anything but clothes on back
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164348 << i finally found and read it, for this occasion. found nothing which obviously demands that one disclose a fucktoy as such
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:11:29; pete_dushenski: "The SF 86 form, which is 127-pages long, is extraordinarily comprehensive and intrusive. "
asciilifeform: evidently the derp did this on own free will.
pete_dushenski: just like shrem. just like 17yo isis twerp.
pete_dushenski: they had the choice and made the wrong one.
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164361 << depends on what one means by 'agent.' afaik, mere stoolies don't fill out forms.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:17:55; pete_dushenski: "I’m also worried they are going to identify agents in law enforcement." << exactly the plot of 'spy', this.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:22:49; punkman: "Weird 64MB favicon.ico turning out to be a TAR backup of the whole WP site, downloaded by every browser passing by... "
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:09:25; pete_dushenski: " When a retired 51-year-old military man disclosed in a U.S. security clearance application that he had a 20-year affair with his former college roommate's wife, it was supposed to remain a secret between him and the government."
pete_dushenski: and google, apple, amazon, paypal, banks, etc.
pete_dushenski: as if there were a magical 'great wall' that kept out the mongols behind their keyboards
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asciilifeform: from the pov of the chumps, the more sinister aspect, as always, is the non-cryptographic concept of identity used in nato reich, where folks can actually impersonate you if they know a handful of basic biographical facts
pete_dushenski: sin, passport #, dob alone are likely sufficient from most purposes
pete_dushenski: including loans, no doubt.
asciilifeform: ultimately usg 'department of plenty' ~really~ wants money to get borrowed. whether you in particular like to borrow money or not. if some 'helpful' nigerian can do it in your name, so much the better from their pov.
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 04:27:15; asciilifeform: i, for instance, would much like to publicly register as 'anyone who walks in with my name and slave serial number and tries to take a mortgage, ever, is to be shot immediately'
asciilifeform: hence also the utter lack of meaningful asymmetric crypto in bank cards, etc.
pete_dushenski: ah yes, the 'low barrier to entry' policy
pete_dushenski: making loans accessible
pete_dushenski: on the consumer side, there's little need for concern either as it's assumed (since it's been demonstrated in the past) that the scamee will be made whole
pete_dushenski: from whence it matters not.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this is a grave misconception
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i have not personally scammed in this particular way, but watched colleagues deal with the fallout of 'xxx bought a house in your name'
pete_dushenski: i had my credit card number lifted in chicago a few years back, sekoority centre called me to ask about a few purchases, which i hadn't made, they cancelled the card on the spot and refunded me the charges.
asciilifeform: it is - at miniumum - a mountain of paperwork, dragging on for years
pete_dushenski: mind you, cc is much smaller scale than mortgage
pete_dushenski: a few hundred vs. a few hundred k
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: lifted cc #s are so routine as to be an automatic writeoff for the bank, unless it was an outlandishly posh cc
asciilifeform: with 100k+ on it
pete_dushenski doesn't have amex black or equivalent
asciilifeform: point being, the 'made whole' thing is 1) not guaranteed by any means 2) presupposes that the victim's ~time~ is worth nothing
pete_dushenski: also, time to jet for me. ciao bellas !
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164378 << can we also suppose that there was a 'cunt patrol', which succeeded in its mission and remains secret ?
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:27:59; pete_dushenski: "We were asked to make dong detection software for LEGO Universe too. We found it to be utterly impossible at any scale.”"
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punkman: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164367 << where ? << dunno, URL was censored
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:22:49; punkman: "Weird 64MB favicon.ico turning out to be a TAR backup of the whole WP site, downloaded by every browser passing by... "
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menahem: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164421 << same happened to me in Chicago. Person balled out at Payless with like $80.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:56:08; pete_dushenski: i had my credit card number lifted in chicago a few years back, sekoority centre called me to ask about a few purchases, which i hadn't made, they cancelled the card on the spot and refunded me the charges.
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mircea_popescu: i take it the unsolicited redrawing of mpex on toilet paper by kindergartners did not end up selling for the "very modest" five digit figure he had in... for lack of a better term, mind ?
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assbot: Sailor dies in Bahrain after fall from balcony ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz6N0t )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-i/#comment-114533 << people still working on the ~fallout~ :D from that article.
assbot: The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume I on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz7Op3 )
mircea_popescu: seriously, as far as the "public opinion" is concenred, "there exists a weapon that has never been used on account of it being too effectual". something that happened with nothing never, the celts used iron weapons and the europeans used machine guns and everything in between that actually worked and was actually useful was actually used. and not a little used. USED. ubiquitously used, the franks re-engineered their en
mircea_popescu: tire societal relations to make room for the horse on the battlefield.
mircea_popescu: and yet...
assbot: On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz8yuy )
Naphex: !up dooglus
Naphex: :))
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164079 << it certainly is more mind altering than a long term alcohol habit.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 00:25:07; jurov: "Also, programmers can also attest to the fact that long-term coding is very much a tantric, mind-altering endeavor."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164089 << because you're not on the stuff the guy's smoking
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 00:32:11; jurov: dunno why I find it so funny
ben_vulpes: mebbe in that it'll drive you insane..
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 01:03:44; asciilifeform: 'Shortly thereafter, officers who had been working undercover to catch citizens attempting to self-serve, swarmed in to arrest the mostly nude man – but not before Mapes took down 3 of the 6 officers by himself.'
mircea_popescu: how is "working undercover" what you do when you sit around in a gas station "trying to catch people who self serve" ? this isn't even lance corporal, whaty officer.
assbot: Launching New Reporting Service – 682 Writers, Editors, Managers Wanted For Part-Time. Yes, You’ll Get Paid, And Paid Well. Launch Now, Operational In Q3. - Falkvinge on Infopolicy ... ( http://bit.ly/1cWAUfC )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for as long as fiat financing lasts, everyone gets to pretend they're the most serene republic.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes exactly what i meant.
BingoBoingo: "publishes all news as shareable images, thereby bypassing a large number of restrictions and limitations, not needing clickbait, and being immune to adblock – but also paying people well, using bitcoin" << And completely ignoring the MP doesn't read text as images
mircea_popescu: lol immune to adblock.
mircea_popescu: "we've seen teh weird web technologies deployed on 8chan last month and we figure it's actual magic"
mircea_popescu: anyway, someone should tell falkvinge to gtfo in here and stop being retarded.
mircea_popescu: he's not THIS stupid, no need to fake it.
BingoBoingo: Dude prolly figures since oldmedia pays him more attention than it does mp, that he can just mash two mp ideas together and herptiy derp and whistle while he twerks
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164125 << sounds just like pretty much every smart woman ever. what exactly is "failed " ?
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 02:47:59; decimation: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-557568/I-love-girl--Im-control-boasts-fallen-child-genius.html < smart folks are maybe also not always wise?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe. there should be a new word, "low functioning intelligence". the exact counterparty to high functioning autism
mircea_popescu: when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain.
BingoBoingo: Sounds like an actual problem. I'd consider tossing him an invite, but he's a complete stranger. All I know him as is the pirate trying to make a qntra... but special needs.
mircea_popescu: he had some rather on point comments re bitcoin's end game in 2012
mircea_popescu: i think i even commented on his site at some point
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BingoBoingo: I have vaguely familair with the name being said places, but the context is unknown to me.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164136 << the question is misstated in that it assumes an alternative is needed. "what is the alternative to bell bottoms???".
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 03:24:29; decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163996 < but what is the altnerative to the state?
mircea_popescu: needn't have "an alternative to monarchy" in terms monarchy'd comprehend. ditto re state.
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mircea_popescu: the proposition that "religion === morality" or "state===society" or "monarchy===worldview" etc is so much smarmy pretense.
mircea_popescu: if the state went away tomorrow nobody'd even notice.
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assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 03:32:36; decimation: sure, but in the end they all involve a peice of actual real estate with an actual physical structure
BingoBoingo: !Up HeySteve
HeySteve: hey, thanks BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: it pretends, and apparently convincingly, to be either or both, but it is neither. for that matter, koreans believe "the party" is equal to "the atmosphere". what of it.
mircea_popescu: how goes.
HeySteve: well thanks, how are you?
mircea_popescu: not bad.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164147 << you will know the leper by his sores. "the state" is any arrangement which pretends that the use of violence is under "its" monopoly.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 03:37:49; decimation: not a literal us state here, state = government
mircea_popescu: this has exactly zero to do with governance in the general case.
assbot: Lying White 'African American' NAACP President Resigns Shocked By Focus On Her Race | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1Igdfzu )
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 03:42:37; decimation: but someone has to claim the land, and people need a place to sleep
BingoBoingo: !up ag3nt_zer0
ag3nt_zer0: thanks!
mircea_popescu: iroquis worked fine without anyone "claiming the land". fine enough for the us to try and copy off them everything they didn't understand from french anyway
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, "Google has made undeniably made an effort" remove the first 'made' ?
danielpbarron: also, "whether its has" should be 'it' ?
ag3nt_zer0: question: does it matter what email provider I use for GPG setup? I tried to set it up with Tutanota but cannot set it up with thunderbird and enigmail which i suspected but wasn't sure until I tried... I shudder to maintain any connection to google or yahoo, but does it matter with GPG?
mircea_popescu: if you run gpg correctrly, whic his to say locally, use plaintext email
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164175 << he is wrong. the state becomes necessary when people who aren't willing to kill if it comes to it wish to pretend they're still people.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 03:51:29; funkenstein_: malcolm x says the state becomes necessary when one needs to separate those who have from those who have not
HeySteve: sounds like the justification for a communist state
mircea_popescu: it does ?
ag3nt_zer0: ok ty mircea_popescu I am pretty confused... I have been following contravex guide - so is that preparing me to run locally? Or is utilizing enigmail through thunderbird attached to a gmail account no longer local? And is it just more secure to use plaintext over html? So much to learn...
mircea_popescu: anyway, malcom x correctly identified "the state is this thing which fucks us over", but he thought it's about money (ie, what he didn't have) rather than about cocksize (ie, what the people actually employing it didn't have).
mircea_popescu: whenever you see a cripple walking on a crutch, it's a good idea to think the crutch as compensation for HIS shortcoming, not yours.
mircea_popescu: this, of course, is still uncharted territory in the mental map of the fifth millenium.
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: Just encrypt and then paste into a mail client
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 the fewer things involved, the less available to break. and yes, what he said.
ag3nt_zer0: ok thanks guys
mircea_popescu: we routinely pass messages here as dpaste for instance
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BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: But mail client beats webmail, because webmail fuck up line endings and spacing
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: Claws is a good email client, but do your email writing and reading outside of it and encrypt/decrypt outside of it
BingoBoingo: Don't want plaintext leaking into your drafts folder...
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Both fixed
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164195 << no, obama's daughters have signed up to suck my cock when they were born. i signed nothing.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 04:02:58; funkenstein_: to quote noone you are likely to consider sane, you signed up when you chose to be born
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mircea_popescu: see how nicely this works ?
mircea_popescu: also the jews signed to like gas when they were born.
ag3nt_zer0: ok, thanks for the help guys, and please forgive the derpage, but I suppose this means do not use something like the enigmail add-on?
ag3nt_zer0: I will check out claws too thanks BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you'd be the first one here to use it.
asciilifeform: what's with the folks who 'need' the automated email-pgp things? are they still using 2-button mice ?
trinque: what's a mouse
asciilifeform: trinque: that thing you sometimes use to move crud between x11 terms
trinque: haha, oh right
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i doubt most people realise security is not an app
BingoBoingo: Also one of the greatest weapons of the shitgnomes is burying people in bad choices
mircea_popescu: hey, it worked for wallmart...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not quite. all the 'bad choices' are really many faces of one god, upon the most casual examination
mircea_popescu: that sounds pretty jewish
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course, but what is one to do when they first encounter berries in the wilderness?
ag3nt_zer0: So I got a raspberry pi and am hoping that noodling around with this device will correct some of these fundamental misunderstanding I have...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: look for the dead animals ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Russian are prettty well culturally jewish.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: what is it that you want to learn?
mircea_popescu: esp in odessa
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's nature the dead animals don't last long before other animals see the phree protein
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164500 << not quite. in unstable 'racial yugoslavias' like usa, 'state' is the apex predator. if it goes to sleep for just one day - the place burns
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 19:22:29; mircea_popescu: if the state went away tomorrow nobody'd even notice.
decimation: how would the iroquis mint chips? how would they arrange for more than 5000 humans per sq mile?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164216 << the difference between jewish religion and communism is slight. the pretense christianity is anything but an (intellectually lesser) jewish sect is ridoinculous. and so here we go.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 04:14:07; decimation: trinque: note that many people would replace orthodox Christianity with some kind of warmed-over socialism, that doesn't make their socialism Christianity (as loudly as they might protest otherwise)
mircea_popescu: decimation are you putting formal constraints on human happiness noiw ?
ag3nt_zer0: Trinque, well some basic programming would be a good place to start I think... a more fundamental understanding of the history of the cypherpunk movement, encrytion fundamentals, etc, anything that will allow me to be something more than a slave
decimation: all human happiness is relative
mircea_popescu: "how would they solve the prob lem solved by chips" ios one question.
mircea_popescu: "How would they make X" is another.
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: how did you come to the notion that a closed turd of a platform such as 'raspberry' is a good starting point for learning programming ?
ag3nt_zer0: Asciilifeform: magickally I think
mircea_popescu: !gettrust ag3nt_zer0
assbot: ag3nt_zer0 is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: i guess you can't do that till you sort gpg huh
ag3nt_zer0: no working on it haha yeah
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: TI-89 is probably a better platform for play computing
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: may i suggest a change in magicks ? have a stern talk with your amulet supplier.
trinque: !b 1
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33KY7Y9.txt )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the -89 in production for the past 7 or so years is a steaming pile of shit
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: yes working out the LSD kinks
asciilifeform: imagine, a calculator with a boot time!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Hence Ebay
BingoBoingo: Why would anyone buy a "new" "calculator"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: same reason why a winblows box. 'it's what they had in the shop'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164495 << no one actually asks 'what is the alternative to state.' what they are really asking is 'what, in your cosmography, is to be the means whereby i get fed, roofed, and far away from bloodthirsty cannibals like before ?' and if the answer is 'you don't, fuck you, biodiesel' don't expect a 'thank you' from the interlocutor
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 19:21:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164136 << the question is misstated in that it assumes an alternative is needed. "what is the alternative to bell bottoms???".
mircea_popescu: might as well ask "what in your cosmography, maps the thing that ensures my eternal life past the pearly gates"
mircea_popescu: i am not responsible for the subjective delusion of inquirers.
trinque ends up playing blockdude
asciilifeform: nah they're just interested in earthly life past next tuesday
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mircea_popescu: they just discuss it in those tersm, inappropriately.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, they are discussing salvation in the reliugious sense
asciilifeform: imho this deserves a little elaboration, if there is 'space in this margin'
asciilifeform: most folks i encounter in usa are elementarily concerned with cannibals
asciilifeform: very practical problem
mircea_popescu: yeah. what you don't know is that the concept of "cannibals" is alike the concept that "niggers are by nature made to be slaves"
asciilifeform: nothing theological about it
mircea_popescu: came from the same place, too.
mircea_popescu: guess the place it came from
mircea_popescu: starts with m and ends in y
asciilifeform: actually it comes from observable ground. i can walk for an hour right now and end in a place from which would have even chances of coming back.
mircea_popescu: not so observable. antrhopologically speaking, the behaviour in question is beyond rare.
asciilifeform: about as rare as pedestrians run over by bus
decimation: ascii could also ride a nearby train in a certain direction and be the only member of his race aboard
asciilifeform: most pedestrians, at most times, are able to stay out of under the bus.
trinque: east coast cities really do suck
mircea_popescu: in the european cultural discourse it ended up as a bit of editorializing by people without a daily mail, looking to illustrate the idiocy they read in some book.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. about as rare as women giving birth to buses.
asciilifeform: decimation: for this, i don't need the train. live there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no dispute that the state creates that place it supposedly defends you from.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: of course.
mircea_popescu: christianity ended up creating on earht the hell it was going to save people from
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: none of what i describe here existed in 1950.
mircea_popescu: communism ditto.
mircea_popescu: it's just a thing
asciilifeform: but it ~is~ here now.
decimation: except those 'christians' were departing from orthodox doctrine
mircea_popescu: decimation oh, comrade stalin betrayed the sacred ideals ?
mircea_popescu: tell me more.tiff
decimation: more like, they became closet atheists and decided to use the church as a propaganda organ
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mircea_popescu: but the church is funfamentally good amirite? just it was misimplemented in practice.
mircea_popescu: hitler for pope!
decimation: people are fundamentally evil and so are their institutions
mircea_popescu: some institutions are necessarily going to fuck up because they proceed from broken presumptions.
mircea_popescu: christianity is one of them.
decimation: if you read the old testament, most of the people who became prophets were hit upside the head by God and told what to do, they weren't bureaucrats receiving their sinecures
mircea_popescu: (and yes as alf points out, the "broken presumptions" are always faces of the same demon. "people are equal", his proper name)
trinque: "There is an ultimate power you can know and derive knowledge from directly, and his son absolved you of every mistake you could ever make." << fucking mind virus
trinque: the one short-circuits learning and the other justifies it
mircea_popescu: trinque interesting, we have different criteria ?
asciilifeform: trinque: this particular virus only works on those who are immunocompromised to begin with
asciilifeform: like the oddball flora which infest aids patient
trinque: mircea_popescu: maybe, how so?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, in aids patients virulence does not follow the usual curves.
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, got me young, still didn't take
mircea_popescu: which is to say : interacting microorganisms sorta repress each other, all the time. but in imunocompromised patient, DIFFERENT set has the upper hand
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, because now it is a contest of who can eat the meat faster, rather than who can evade immune mechanism
mircea_popescu: it's not just "more" or "random". it's actually different sets.
asciilifeform: sorta like the dynamics of ecosystem of criminals after, rather than before, demise of mega-state
asciilifeform: (to bring it back to usaschwitz thread)
mircea_popescu: well, partly that, partly "there's no longer the state here to clean out x y z and make it livable for K M N so Q W R win out"
decimation: so, for good reasons many choose the state they know
decimation: instead of the bandits they don't
mircea_popescu: works fine for as long as they're happy with it
mircea_popescu: the junkie with fifty pounds of pure heroin stashed away isn't going out in the streets either.
asciilifeform: to paraphrase mr rumsfeld, 'you get raped by the state you have, not the state you wish you had'
trinque: I don't remember choosing a state
decimation: or 'post-monarchial non-state' as the case may be
asciilifeform: but the question is normally a kind of hypothetical, 'would you like usg or the orcs with pitchforks'
asciilifeform: usually folks answer 'usg says 'your money or your life', orcs say 'your life'; hence usg'
mircea_popescu: as such it is misstated, in the manner owners of slavegirls misstate the world to the slavegirls.
mircea_popescu: "would you like the beatings here or to be run over by a bus ???"
mircea_popescu: welllll....
trinque: biggest contribution to choosing a state most people can make is saying "nope, not this one"
decimation: asciilifeform: what's the alternative? gentle bandits? usg with 'reform'?
asciilifeform: trinque: even this is beyond the abilities of most
mircea_popescu: stepping out of the idiotology.
trinque: eh they can in aggregate, just don't know it
asciilifeform: decimation: last i checked, there is not a button on my desk that cancels usg
trinque: or forget time to time
asciilifeform: trinque: 'can in aggregate' like the chinese can jump and create earthquake, yes
asciilifeform: which is to say not.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> stepping out of the idiotology << what does this consist of in practice ?
mircea_popescu: i run into this question a lot. "just stop" "how ?" "by not doing it" "but i don't know how!!1"
mircea_popescu: usually it's resolved with "if you ever do this again im going to beat you with a wet dulap"
asciilifeform: i notice a tendency among #b-a folks to dwell on 'convince folks to leave gravity well.' well, guess what, i was convinced 15+ yrs ago, before ever met you lot. and fat lot of good it did
asciilifeform: one needs the means as well as the will.
mircea_popescu: when there's a means there's a will or how was it
trinque: "where there's a will there's a way" ?
mircea_popescu: i think "when there's a butthole there's a plug"
trinque: lol
asciilifeform: tell that to the fellow writhing in the leather straps on electric chair
mircea_popescu: i'm just the man to do that, too. so yeah, i will.
trinque: "You can do it!" "Manifest your destiny, brother!"
trinque: bbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzpppppttttssss!
trinque: "Hm... alright bring in the next one!"
mircea_popescu: mno, more like, "well... you are aware the alternative would have been being eaten by cannibals right ???"
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assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 04:33:18; funkenstein_: trinque, indeed. sounds like a small statement but you have just affirmed something big methinks
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 09:17:46; scoopbot_revived: CoinJar COO Ryan Zhou Caught Impersonating Dice Site's Developer http://qntra.net/2015/06/coinjar-coo-ryan-zhou-caught-impersonating-dice-sites-developer/
mircea_popescu: so basically... a lot of "different people" who are actually all the same guy compose a community which spent years accusing me of being hanbot ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164306 << at this rate you'll end up with a mistress.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 09:39:44; cazalla: i had another sober weekend so half way there to a sober month of June
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assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:13:45; pete_dushenski: ""It's kind of scary that somebody could know that much about us," said a former senior U.S. diplomat, pointing out the ability to use such data to impersonate an American official online, obtain passwords and plunder bank accounts."
mircea_popescu: get used to it, flondors.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164358 << more importantly, turns out that when you work for the usg, you sign your own prison sentence / death warrant.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:14:35; pete_dushenski: turns out that when you spill the beans to a piece of paper in a drawer, someone can go in and read that piece of paper !
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164376 << isn't megan fox that porn cyborg woman ?
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:26:58; pete_dushenski: "Management “wanted a creative building MMO [massively multiplayer online-game] with a promise of zero penises seen,” tweeted Megan Fox, a developer who worked on the project,"
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:45:54; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164361 << depends on what one means by 'agent.' afaik, mere stoolies don't fill out forms.
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assbot: Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1IgtE7f )
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164712 << know that almost all folks paid by usg fill out no forms like these.
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 20:34:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164399 << "one who gets paid."
asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
asciilifeform: (e.g., old residences, employers, blood relatives, marriages, etc)
trinque: ~or~ why doesn't the NSA file my taxes?
asciilifeform: what remains after these are subtracted is some very wooden 'list the terrorist orgs you have been a member in, and why' verbiage
asciilifeform: (literally! read the thing)
trinque: and why lol
asciilifeform: (btw the answer, at least partially, for 'why they don't consult the files' is that what the inquisitors are mainly interested in is ~liars~ rather than the facts)
asciilifeform: ditto the tax collectors
asciilifeform: (if 'nsa filed your tax,' who would ever pay fines ?)
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo of course, the truly ridiculous thing in that inept flailing of two different groups of idiots with 100 BTC in the middle is the proposition that btc-e stealing user funds is "what any legitimate busines would have done".
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mircea_popescu: must be in backwards world, this magical place where "official replies" go to reddit and tardstalk.
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danielpbarron: !up sundance
mircea_popescu: nice netmask.
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decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164722 < it's a good question. in fact, a careful reading of the form is interesting not for the stupid questions it asks but the large gaps it doesn't ask about
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
decimation: it seems that most of the 'security apparatus' of usg is geared toward catching dumb or incompetent spies
decimation: apparently like it is also geared to catch dumb terrorists
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:09:34; asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur.
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:10:26; asciilifeform: notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret'
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ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> how is "working undercover" what you do when you << couldn't possibly be real. lulzy satire of the state of the state tho
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> esp in odessa << ehe late as always, i am
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danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164552 << i rarely if ever use a mouse. I'm a big fan of the rubber nub in the center of the keyboard, even if it is the reason my 'b' key fell off and later stopped working
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 19:45:47; trinque: what's a mouse
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ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler!
trinque: ehehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00043293 = 14.6114 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164762 << i've been known to introduce myself as a 'gassing jew'
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
asciilifeform: (which is to say, one who is good for more or less entirely that)
Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?
ben_vulpes: there is a "silent dance party" occuring at the park down the street
ben_vulpes: many many people with headphones dancing to music only they can hear
ben_vulpes: in time
ben_vulpes: this was less eerie two nights ago at 1 in the morning.
Adlai: one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties
ben_vulpes: i think these are straight up radio
ben_vulpes: might be wrong
Adlai: he has since moved up in life, last i heard he cancelled a return ticket from the west coast to stick around and carve surfeboards
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164775 << and that's another thing from the long list of 'jew things' that i have no truck with
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:18:14; Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21455 @ 0.00041116 = 8.8214 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164780 << would be interesting to broadcast custom message to these folks.
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:23:56; Adlai: one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties
Adlai: fwiw ben_vulpes i distinctly remember him saying "wifi", although it could be that different manufacturers use different technologies
Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either
Adlai: 'jew things' is such a game of broken telephone, it's amazing how people survived without deedbots
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44555 @ 0.00042275 = 18.8356 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: schneier lulz: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/06/encrypting_wind.html < "Encrypting your Windows hard drives is trivially easy; choosing which program to use is annoyingly difficult. I still use Windows -- yes, I know, don't even start -- and have intimate experience with this issue."
assbot: Encrypting Windows Hard Drives - Schneier on Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1R2Rmsl )
decimation: seems to me that he's going senile
decimation: maybe next week he will be complaining about the damn mailman
Adlai: "a king has his reign and then he dies"
mod6: man writes a defacto encryption encyclopedia, uses windows.
mod6: other man creates a crypto-currency, uses windows and MFC.
mod6: staggers the imagination
decimation: actually, what it says to me is that the alternatives are dead
Adlai: satoshi must've "known better"
Adlai: his using msvc was just like writing the note with your non-dominant hand
decimation: as ascii said, they probably use winblows because that's what they sell at the computer store
decimation: adlai: he ported functions from mfc into bitcoin utils.cpp
decimation: the man knew cpp-boost-mfc-ese
Adlai: so? i'll copypaste the navyseals copypasta, doesn't mean i know how to triforce
decimation: my point being, he picked his tools, stuck with them
decimation: it's hard for me to begrudge a man that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45769 @ 0.00041034 = 18.7809 BTC [-] {2}
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