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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95171 @ 0.00032109 = 30.5585 BTC [-] {4}
asciilifeform looking for l33t w4r3z, encounters not quite related: 'He cums inside Ada's mouth - Ada vacuums.avi'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29004 @ 0.000327 = 9.4843 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: !up Vexual
Vexual: hey
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26409 @ 0.00032218 = 8.5085 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6791 @ 0.00031739 = 2.1554 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: bah int64, round that shit down vuples
thestringpuller: !up Vexual
Vexual: angelina jolie has 10 kids from zero births when ya round down, and a mere photograph of one is worth 50k
ben_vulpes: now that's mining
Vexual: thats 1337
Vexual: what ever happened to tat?
Vexual: is he a bank teller?
Vexual: me prolly headbutting chandilliers someplace
Vexual: *meh
cazalla: Vexual, he left for whale club
Vexual: i prefer seals, but gone
Vexual: well freeroll is anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.000327 = 1.962 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !up Vexual
Vexual: that romanian schoolgirl looks familiar, has she straightened her hair?
Vexual: no, just typical
thestringpuller: ;;google dib big head
gribble: Dib - Invader ZIM Wiki: <http://zim.wikia.com/wiki/Dib>; Why Is His Head So BIg? - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7nY__e2DA>; WHY IS HIS HIS HEEAD SOO BIG - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvW5aynsB8I>
cazalla: i dunno, buterin's head is worse than that
[]bot: Bet placed: 8.1919 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 12(Y):88(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.2974 BTC. Current weight: 99,815.
Vexual: see holdems just bitbet, but the comments are weighted
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51047 @ 0.00032379 = 16.5285 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: nice find, Vexual
Vexual: whats that?
Vexual: pup fiction?
Vexual: i reckon willie nelson might have an edge in a poker game
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29979 @ 0.00031242 = 9.366 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 286 @ 0.03384995 = 9.6811 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00031242 = 3.5147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29802 @ 0.000312 = 9.2982 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
Vexual: how scandinavian of you
Vexual: it's a pity it's gonna take google to put the steering wheel in the middle
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00032469 = 2.6625 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: really, Vexual?
ben_vulpes: pina coladas?
Vexual: its rhum with nothing
Vexual: and thats the gateway
Vexual: to india
Vexual: excellent estimators all
Vexual: youll need a bit of hindi tho, coz variety
Vexual: still money talks
Vexual: ad says da fox
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.12989999 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 18.4273 BTC. Current weight: 99,738.
ben_vulpes: oh dizee is still around?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47450 @ 0.00031162 = 14.7864 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 65 @ 0.0331 = 2.1515 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.234567 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.761867 BTC. Current weight: 99,681.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00031637 = 7.8934 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 58 @ 0.11 = 6.38 BTC [+]
cazalla: http://pando.com/2015/03/01/internet-privacy-funded-by-spooks-a-brief-history-of-the-bbg/ interesting read, probably not news to better read people here though
assbot: Internet privacy, funded by spooks: A brief history of the BBG | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1AV1sT8 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00031715 = 6.4064 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13587 @ 0.0003238 = 4.3995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 100 @ 0.0332 = 3.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00031774 = 6.1006 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12362 @ 0.00032469 = 4.0138 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 33(Y):67(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.761867 BTC. Current weight: 99,633.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6524 @ 0.00031415 = 2.0495 BTC [-]
punkman: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00031075 / 0.0003265 / 0.0003585 (895317 shares, 292.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00031075 / 0.00038154 / 0.0004493 (13500577 shares, 5,151.08 BTC), 30D: 0.00031075 / 0.00040351 / 0.00048515 (70295400 shares, 28,364.98 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 85 @ 0.0331 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00031524 = 6.3521 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8059 @ 0.00032469 = 2.6167 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: height=264323 vs height=203586 (usb3: height=235343)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92250 @ 0.00032605 = 30.0781 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39290 @ 0.00031771 = 12.4828 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28658 @ 0.00032912 = 9.4319 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33798 @ 0.00033053 = 11.1713 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 5.3450337 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 30.1069007 BTC. Current weight: 99,491.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 242 @ 0.02716246 = 6.5733 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00033087 = 13.1025 BTC [+] {4}
jurov: hmm, bitbet is revving up
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28603 @ 0.00031956 = 9.1404 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00032181 = 3.7008 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00031512 = 14.3695 BTC [-]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 65 @ 0.02075383 = 1.349 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9747 @ 0.00031171 = 3.0382 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13220 @ 0.00031171 = 4.1208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125000 @ 0.00031031 = 38.7888 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: I interacted with Jillian C. York in January 2012 about how twitter was filtering tweets about Jesus from the "top tweet" search (saw her name in that article about USG funded "internet privacy") >> https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/statuses/155721935785959424
assbot: Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "@jilliancyork If they blocked it people would notice right away and cry foul. Tweets about Jesus are disqualified from "top tweets."" ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLA7xT )
danielpbarron: strangly enough, twitter doesn't like to show our conversation in one page for some reason, you have to click each tweet separately to see the context
danielpbarron: she admitted that I was right, but decided that it was either a bug, or an attempt to keep from "offending" christians
nubbins`: maybe it's an attempt to keep from offending non-christians
danielpbarron: right, that was my suspicion
nubbins`: speaking from my perspective as a canadian, the usa has a very strange relationship with religion
nubbins`: (phun phact, no roman catholic may ascend to the canadian throne!)
thestringpuller: less canadian terristas
thestringpuller: lots of merican terristas
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00032764 = 7.7651 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: very strange; seems as though bitcoind is causing my server to power-cycle all of a sudden
assbot: Project Zero: Exploiting the DRAM rowhammer bug to gain kernel privileges ... ( http://bit.ly/1BpfrUH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104200 @ 0.00033188 = 34.5819 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 96 @ 0.013333 = 1.28 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3827 @ 0.00033562 = 1.2844 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: rowhammer article << didn't we do that here a while ago?
ascii_field: but linked piece contains actual proof-of-concept code.
ascii_field: as usual, the virtues of avoiding 'modern' consumer-grade (i.e. non-ECC memory, in this case) products is on display here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12610 @ 0.00032718 = 4.1257 BTC [-]
ascii_field: summary for the impatient - arbitrary bit-flips induced from ring3 code on x86
ascii_field: because ddr3 ram is noise-sensitive garbage
mike_c: international money remittance without fincen. how is done? with a mobile app and a local 'cash dealer'.
mike_c: it's bitcoin, but not, but it uses it, but sort of.
ascii_field: mike_c: usually with 'hawala', works since 900 ad or so
mike_c: they mention that
mike_c: although they said "since 8th century"
ascii_field: thing is, actual hawala isn't a roundedcorners iPnohe turd app
ascii_field: but based on human WoTs
ascii_field: unlike the linked usg honeypot.
mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron.
ascii_field: cannot and must not recognize a difference between these.
mike_c: one is malicious, one is just stupid.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2014 02:50:50; asciilifeform: the best place to hide a little malice is a gigantic pile of incompetence.
mike_c: heh. i can't argue with that.
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2014 19:12:31; mircea_popescu: because it is impossible to establish malice at all, a difference predicated upon establishing malice is meaningless.
mike_c: to be clear, i was not recommending that thing. just came across it today and thought I'd share the lulz.
mike_c: and how the hell did you know what a hawala was? i first saw that word today.
ascii_field: mike_c: hawala is as famous as anything gets, i thought
mike_c: americans are dumb.
ascii_field: even paraded by usg muppets in the state-controlled media as 't3rr0r1s7 f1n4nc3!!!111!!1111'
ascii_field: (any financial network the buggers don't control, of course, falls under this)
mike_c: well i guess that's what i am learning about today.
ascii_field: (for readers of my site: iirc i referred to bitcoin as 'mechanized hawala' in my first article on the subject)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00031592 = 12.8895 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: mike_c: who doesn't know what a hawala is?
mike_c: now that I do, it appears nobody. I was the last one who didn't know.
danielpbarron: !up laurita
danielpbarron: !up HlySht
dignork: ascii_field: yep, there was a discussion on bitflip, but this one is too real, I wonder when active Xen exploit will drive DDR out of cloud business.
ascii_field: dignork: what normally happens in a case like this is - that the hole is sewn shut, but not completely shut - rather like 'infibulated' gurl partz in the middle east
ascii_field: it'll be narrowed so that usg has the only effective exploitatron for it, yes.
ascii_field: see the bios cas/ras timings being silently adjusted by vendors, mentioned in article
HlySht: Can anyone tell me who irdial/beautyon is? and why his opinion is held in high regard in the btc community?
danielpbarron: is it really held in high regard?
ascii_field: news to me
dignork: He is very active on twitter, sometimes fun to read.
danielpbarron: he's very spammy
HlySht: so he's just a regular bloke then
dignork: danielpbarron: well, libertarians do not have any other way of influence I suspect.
danielpbarron: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00030773 = 10.3859 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: BBC 18x18 HW Flash Dryer, 120V, 2243W ... ( http://bit.ly/1AWWdC9 )
nubbins`: ^ add a servo motor and foot pedal for $800
thestringpuller: nubbins`: all you need now is indonesian children to work your factory
nubbins`: you mean filipino and they don't use flashes
assbot: t shirt printing philippines - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1AWXCsz )
thestringpuller: definitely didn't see any children mr. nubbins`
nubbins`: arms too weak
ascii_field: lol re: new apple hardware released today being -slower- than previous
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00032325 = 3.6527 BTC [+] {2}
dignork: mike_c: hawala comes up a lot in discussions about remittance business.
mike_c: yeah, I read up a bit. I like it.
danielpbarron: !up ascii_field
danielpbarron: !up HlySht
ben_vulpes: !up The20YearIRCloud
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
The20YearIRCloud: Need anything ben_vulpes ?
ben_vulpes: product vision and a six-month commitment at 20K/mo.
ben_vulpes: i'll handle the rest.
thestringpuller: 240k a year?
thestringpuller: for what?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46232 @ 0.00030669 = 14.1789 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: 2-3 people on your project, no context switching penalties for mobile/backend/html, no technical management burden.
thestringpuller: is there a "trial version"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13857 @ 0.00030344 = 4.2048 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: less tha 6/mo :P
thestringpuller: 1 mo commitment to see if you are legit
thestringpuller: i have an amazing product vision tho
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48234 @ 0.00031038 = 14.9709 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: 240k... 2-3 people << chinese slaves ?
The20YearIRCloud: what product is this?
danielpbarron: !up shesek
assbot: user.riseup.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BZucj2 )
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00030472 = 2.5901 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'riseup' << mega-l0l!
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: My impression of it has always been as a sort of zoo.
ascii_field doesn't recall ever hearing of it before
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: It's a fairly old service targeted towards activists explicitly.
ascii_field: the 'identity politics' idiocy is a kgb bomb set off in usa in the 1960s - at this point, a historical fact at least as well-established as the 'business plot' of the '30s
ascii_field: the participants, if told this, only make monkey noises. guaranteed.
BingoBoingo: amazing how it continues firing longer than any color revolution
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
ascii_field: because it's the ultimate d3m0cr4cy1111!!111! dope - reliable conveyor for enthroning mediocrities who then owe everything to the state
ascii_field: the designers of the weapon understood precisely which screw to turn in usa to make the 'engine governor' fall off and speed up the inevitable degringolade
ascii_field: i'd say 'ask them' but quite likely they're all buried at this point.
ascii_field: obligatory sov. joke:
ascii_field: wife says to drunken husband, 'every night you drink, drink, you never bring money home, you worthless piece of shit, go visit the cemetary - see how many gravestones say 'died of vodka.'..'
ascii_field: husband goes off, actually goes to count.
ascii_field: comes back, says,
ascii_field: 'i counted, read the cards on the wreaths. said things like, 'from wife', 'from son', 'from mother-in-law' - but none said 'from vodka.' nobody died from vodka.'
jurov: ben_vulpes what about VAN then? it had no product vision?
thestringpuller: ascii_field: how's the field today good sir?
thestringpuller: I"m also po'ed duolingo doesn't teach russian
ascii_field: thestringpuller: snorematic
cazalla: omg fuck this guy http://i.imgur.com/SmDox6p.png those goggles..
danielpbarron: oh nice! I don't have that block yet.. http://danielpbarron.com/blocked.txt
cazalla: danielpbarron, lol ethereum blocked you? buterin is yet to block me even though i cuss him out 100 worse than i did gavin
mike_c: isn't there a shadowban? ignore or something?
danielpbarron: mute is a somewhat new feature to twitter
cazalla: mike_c, not sure, i've never blocked/ignored anyone tbh
danielpbarron: if i'm not mistaken, "block" causes all future replies to not attach in the continuity of the conversation, whereas mute just makes them invisible to the muter
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes: 240k... 2-3 people << chinese slaves ? << nobody ever said how many hours.
ben_vulpes: jurov: fine on the vision, budget was simply my spare time.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's the braindamage in this "mill" processor?
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: mill processor ?
ascii_field: did i miss something
assbot: docs / videos / slides | Mill Computing, Inc ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk4sxd )
ben_vulpes: trips all sorts of bezzletronic alerts for me, but i lack the context to make judgements.
ascii_field: damn it it ought to be in the logs
ascii_field: but can't find
ben_vulpes: i actually don't recall a thread.
ben_vulpes: and searches return nada.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: basically, a rebranding of academiwank 'systolic processor'
ascii_field: they've no hardware, of course.
ascii_field: marketing materials promise elaborate, 'smart' cpu crud (branch prediction even more complicated than on extant x86, code that executes even less deterministically, etc.)
ascii_field: surprised that usg hasn't funded them yet.
ascii_field: i went through their material ages ago, and it set off quite a few of the 'scammer heuristics' in my head
ascii_field: most of all the fact of claiming credit (implicitly) for decades of the work of other, genuinely original folks.
ascii_field: plus the 'gimme money' aspect.
assbot: This Is What 'Bae' Means ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk5zgb )
nubbins`: TIME DOT COM
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 00:38:12; mircea_popescu: be it google or apple, it can fucking rot. everything will have to be reimplemented.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 18:43:30; asciilifeform: perhaps this is worth a brief digression:
ascii_field: i'd argue that these folks -simply don't get to- design cpu any more.
ascii_field: everything they do is 'guilty until proven innocent', which is to say, until independently arrived at by WoT folks.
ascii_field: 'you were a usg academic? hope you like picking fruit.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40050 @ 0.00030556 = 12.2377 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 113 @ 0.01589381 = 1.796 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15151 @ 0.00030242 = 4.582 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 03:27:02; decimation: apparently google wants to get rid of x11 totally and replace it with their own graphics layer
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: there is not a non-retarded alternative today
ascii_field: or anything remotely close
mircea_popescu: but really, steal keyboard stream because "Whatever, it's also under x" ?
ascii_field: mm no.
ascii_field: doesn't happen on my box.
ascii_field: trivial fix
mircea_popescu: trivial FIX ?
mircea_popescu: fuck this shit.
ascii_field: let's rephrase: it's a wm misbehaviour
ascii_field: not x11's
mircea_popescu: "my house doesn't have a hole in the roof - trivial fix" "whatever, i'm not dealing with those imbeciles".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00030242 = 2.5857 BTC [-]
ascii_field: 'ratpoison', 'polite mode'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00030242 = 6.2299 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: how is it not x's ? (not sure if 11 specifically0
ascii_field: because x per se doesn't impose the retardation
mircea_popescu: but it allows it.
ascii_field: it also allows user to shoot himself in the head
ascii_field: or give his btc to sc4mz0rz
ascii_field: or marry a scold
mircea_popescu: x has no fucking business telling another process on its dealings with a process.
mircea_popescu: and the fact that this very fundamental principle is not precisely observed makes me not care whether x or chrome wins. they're the same shit.
ascii_field: if they're both x-using, and both connected to same x server, then yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22339 @ 0.00031268 = 6.985 BTC [+]
ascii_field: and yes, it's crufty '80s turd
mircea_popescu: how about, no.
ascii_field agrees. so long as the answer isn't 'here have a little rectangle of rdesktop crapolade instead of screen-filling display-agnostic remote gui on your giant vertical lcd'
mircea_popescu: x should work like fucking pinentry.
mircea_popescu: but hey, why confront and resolve the hard problems ? inheritance systems for the user input, explicitly set bvy the user etc ? o noes, gotta be simple
mircea_popescu: well, that's what chrome does too : simple rather than correct and easy rather than useful.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046656 << lol, the new Tough Derp look is oddly adequate.
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 14:48:15; thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/573953967509630976 < l0l
mircea_popescu: knocked out retired boxers should look like knocked out retired boxers.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046696 << is it actually vc stuff or just aspie stuff ? (from aspirational rather than asperger's, tho...)
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 17:31:55; mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron.
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 17:36:47; mike_c: americans are dumb.
mircea_popescu: !s hawala
assbot: 23 results for 'hawala' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hawala
mircea_popescu: !s hawalah
assbot: 0 results for 'hawalah' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hawalah
mircea_popescu: !s hundi
assbot: 0 results for 'hundi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hundi
assbot: SSL-busting adware: US cyber-plod open fire on Comodo's PrivDog • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBxCay )
dignork: Not as lame as superfish, but still fun.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76986 @ 0.00030114 = 23.1836 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19485 @ 0.00029917 = 5.8293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139387 @ 0.0003135 = 43.6978 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: mircea_popescu: inbetween aspirational and funded. i heard about them because they got "best of" at reasonably big tech conference. my curiousity is mostly around the brazen attempt to do money remittance in US without being licensed.
mike_c: s/inbetween/between/
thestringpuller: mike_c: hawala doesn't require money license
mike_c: mhm. tell the US that.
thestringpuller: well this is why US hated hawala during "war on terror" beginnings
thestringpuller: there was a lot of "hawala is bad" propaganda
thestringpuller: (the US claimed 9/11 was funded with the ultiization of hawala)
thestringpuller: s/with/through/g
ben_vulpes: i will find whoever decided to return 200 from this endpoint and encode the error in xml
ben_vulpes: by the holy dogfucking jesus i will find them
BingoBoingo: !up HeySteve
HeySteve: hello
mircea_popescu: mike_c see, the way i've observed this to work is like this : 1) usg makes imbecile law ; 2) society is aghast ; 3) teenaged muppets make bold claim that jives with societal expectation, blatantly in contradiction with usg policy.
mircea_popescu: then 4a) if society bites the bait, they "change their mind" "learn better" "unfortunately..." "they were just kids" etc, the circle / dwolla /etc playbook
mircea_popescu: or else 4b) if society doesn't bite the bait, they "street cred" because were going to 4evar totally do it.
mircea_popescu: seems a decent gameplan. if you're a stanford/harvard business major, or similar scum.
mike_c: i'd love to be a fly on the wall in the pitch meetings though when the investor says "so how are you not going to jail?"
mike_c: because in the game you described, the VCs are getting taken for a ride. which happens of course, but this just seems so obviously illegal.
cazalla: today is typically the busiest day for news but it is dead
cazalla: Pierre_Rochard, pull the pin on twitter eh?
Pierre_Rochard: cazalla:
Pierre_Rochard: and every other social media thingy I had in my password manager
Pierre_Rochard: have to manually contact customer support at linkedin to get that removed… the lengths they’ll go to keep the serfs on the domaine
cazalla: well, i will miss your art retweets
thestringpuller: i blame bitpay
thestringpuller: Pierre_Rochard: my dad raves about LinkedIn.
thestringpuller: when in reality I get tons of spam from it
Pierre_Rochard: cazalla: ya know, when I started seeing the same art pieces from history of europe’s feed popping up, I knew it was the end
Pierre_Rochard: thestringpuller: it’s the bezzle-wot. Great because of the wot part, spammy and diminished by the bezzle part
thestringpuller: super spammy
thestringpuller: "Hey thestringpuller, would you like to hear about this wonderful development opportunity with a fast growing company you've never heard of?!?!?"
thestringpuller: i get like at least 4-7 of those a month
Pierre_Rochard: ^ humble bragger!
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thestringpuller: it's spam tho! from the sketchiest of recruiters.
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danielpbarron: !up saifedean
mircea_popescu: mike_c in all probability the last pitch meeting where the investors asked something sensible was cca 2002.
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2015/03/digital-hawala-for-the-poor/
mircea_popescu: anyway, "society" is broad. the vc game is just to flip the ponzi to larger fools. they succeed 55% of the time or so.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the pension funds end up hodling anyway, and the fed rescues them, and here we are.
saifedean: my working theory is that any "entrepreneur" who engages in any form of 'event' about start-ups or entrepreneurship is not an entrepreneur, and has nothing interesting to offer the world. if they did have something interesting, they wouldn't have time for wankery
thestringpuller: ;;later tell pete_dushenski you're referenced in latest qntra article
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: that sounds like a great video game premise for learning purposes. "Flip the ponzi"
mircea_popescu: saifedean this is the prevailing view by now imo
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "questions asked" : in a total nod to asciilifeform's "merit washing" ideas, by now the point isn't even to have any sort of product, as it hasn't been for decades, noreven any sort of plan. they "invest" in "great teams", nao. "kids will figure it out later".
saifedean: there is such a giant start-up culture in lebanon these days thanks to Central Bank bezzle, everyone and their dog wants to make a start-up... nobody wants to actually do something, just pontificate on start-ups and entrepreneurship
saifedean: the central bank here is probably the world's best, the currency has the highest gold cover of any currency in the world, they banned the banks from investing in any securities and compeltely avoided the 2008 meltdown...
saifedean: but...
mircea_popescu: what will the kids figure out later ? oh, that - to go no further than latest trilema - jared son of charles got 40mn "investment" from x and y while charles was in jale because campaign donations and other issues related to x and y.
mircea_popescu: "entrepreneur".
mircea_popescu: saifedean lebanon sounds more and more like romania - 10 years.
saifedean: the socialistards have been pressing for start-up funding and environmental projects, and the CB has obliged with some low-interest loans and funding conferences and start-ups and publicity... what could possibly go wrong
mircea_popescu: in lebanon ? nothing really, srsly nao. buncha town dwelling wasters get ot be all excited for a summer.
mircea_popescu: this exact thing was a problem, written down as such, exact words, in 1914. and since forever : central government attracts town loafers, who then derp about.
saifedean: oh no, there's a lot of ruin to be made in this place, and the socialist scum have been trying in vain for decades...
mircea_popescu: like what ?
mircea_popescu: !up HlySht
mircea_popescu: !gettrust beautyon
assbot: beautyon is not registered in WoT.
saifedean: this is really one of the last civilized places in the world, because it's got the hardest currency in the world... you can see lack of socialist decivilization in everything here...
mircea_popescu: tell me specifics ?
saifedean: before civil war in 1975, currency was 91% backed by gold, almost a gold standard
mircea_popescu: how can it be 91% backed ?
saifedean: the entire civil war drama was basically communist-funded trash trying to destroy the central bank and currency
mircea_popescu: !s rhodesia
assbot: 33 results for 'rhodesia' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rhodesia
saifedean: the value of the gold in the central bank's reserves at market price was equal to 91% of the value of all the currency
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, "A screenshot of the Abra app" << should this not be hosted on qntra?
mircea_popescu: saifedean o.O
mircea_popescu: that's pretty heavy.
mircea_popescu: is this factual or declaratory ?
saifedean: the fact that this place has almost-hard money makes a real difference: there is no bezzle here, there has never been a stock market crash, housing crash, or any kind of business cycle
saifedean: people don't really have shitty bezzle careers, they have actual productive jobs making useful things... like furniture and food
mircea_popescu: state of the art spamatron, for the curious : http://dpaste.com/1FPT1XY
assbot: dpaste: 1FPT1XY ... ( http://bit.ly/18woNDU )
mircea_popescu: saifedean impressive.
mircea_popescu: lebanon, eh ? who knew.
saifedean: it was 91% before the war, then the socialist scum managed to fuck shit up in the war, and destroyed the currency in 1983, it went from 3 Liras/USD to around 2,000Lira/USD
saifedean: but then when the rubble settled down, the central bank set the currency at 1500 Lira/USD in 1992 and it has not budged since
saifedean: the reason is that they still have sizeable gold reserves, unlike the rest of the world's troglodyte central bankers chasing returns and playing etrade accounts with their reserves
mircea_popescu: so if i want to rent a flat in beirut, what'd it run me ?
ben_vulpes: lebanon?!
saifedean: for something really nice... $2000-$4000
saifedean: and by nice, i mean nicer than pretty much anything you've seen
saifedean: views on the mediterranean and the snow-covered mountains... 24 hour delivery services to get you anything you could possibly imagine
saifedean: very safe and secure, friendly and outgoing happy people
mircea_popescu: yeah, but they have to compete with ohio's 150 a month or w/e it was.
saifedean: and some of the world's best food, women, and wine...
mircea_popescu: yeah except if syria falls over it'll flatten it.
saifedean: im not even lebanese, i went to university here, then lived in london and new york... the move from beirut to these anglo shit-holes was a culture shock, there is no comparison... as soon as i finished my phd and got an offer from a lebanese university, i didnt hesitate move back
saifedean: yeah, the fear of the country falling over is what keeps it so wonderfully beautiful, as it keeps out all the unwanted visitors :D
saifedean: it'd be swimming with british stag dos and russian billionaires otherwise
punkman: maybe good time to invest in sailboat
mircea_popescu: no but seriously, there's what, half a million muslims refugeed there now ?
mircea_popescu: suppose that goes to 2mn, or 5.
mircea_popescu: o look, most recent political assasination fifteen months ago.
saifedean: this place went through 15 years of civil war though, everyone has had their fill, and nobody wants a repeat, and people are far, far, more careful than in other places... people hjave just learned to ignore all the drama and live their life... all the "violence" and "insecurity" after all, does not amount to half of a chicago
mircea_popescu: !up HFSPLUS
HFSPLUS: whats up everyone
saifedean: there's tons of refugees from syria, but they mostly come here and work, there's no welfare state to speak of so immigration is not really a problem
mircea_popescu: saifedean from where i sit the only sane reason to go to lebanon would be the same as 1k years ago : to start a crusade.
mircea_popescu: as im not terribly in the mood...
assbot: Need a search term.
mircea_popescu: saifedean yes, but they support "ideas", and then soon enough vote, and riot.
asciilifeform: meowmix is back!
HFSPLUS: !s meowmix
assbot: 25 results for 'meowmix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meowmix
HFSPLUS: what did i do?
asciilifeform: ferphuckssake
saifedean: i've traveled the world and never seen a place better, the more i travel the more i fall in love with this place...
saifedean: hard money, dude!
mircea_popescu: saifedean sounds a lot like very early romanian. what do they speak even, misr ?
HFSPLUS: ;;seen meowmix
HFSPLUS: ;;seen meowmix
gribble: meowmix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 58 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <meowmix> !b 50
asciilifeform: saifedean: 2-4k/mo is washington price.
punkman: saifedean: hard money, dude! << but pegged to the dollar?
asciilifeform: !up saifedean
saifedean: washington is a fucking shit-hole, i wouldn't live in it if you paid me 20k a week instead of rent, there's no city worse on the planet
mircea_popescu: punkman actually exports are funnay 20% gold 5% jewelry 5% diamonds. total jew country.
mircea_popescu: sounds like israel's new jersey
mircea_popescu: saifedean bucharest's easily worse.
saifedean: pegged to the dollar, but since the dollar is always falling, and the CB's gold reserves aren't, this makes the CB very comfortable
mircea_popescu: imagine all the stupid of wash dc done louder by stupider people. also in a swamp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'stupider' exists !?! outside of africa, even ?
mircea_popescu: saifedean what of this 150% gdp in foreign debt ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh yes.
saifedean: but DC is the major league of stupid... the stupidest and scummiest of beirut and bucharest and everywhere else go to play in the majors in DC
mircea_popescu: and 10bn in remittances. lebanon is absolutely romania cca 1995.
HFSPLUS: who is meowmix
HFSPLUS: how can i get rich off of bitcoin
asciilifeform: !down HFSPLUS
saifedean: yeah, the debt is enormous, and the CB keeps the government on a tight leash with it... banks are all well-capitalized and keep rolling over the debt for the government... but the government can never go crazy and do 5-year-plans or giant infrastructure projects or whatever
asciilifeform: <HFSPLUS> noooooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaa * HFSPLUS has quit (Quit: Leaving) << mega-l0l
asciilifeform asks, can we get a better class of 'elizas' here plz.
mircea_popescu: we will once you're done playing with these ones.
saifedean: i lived in DC for a summer and interacted with the residents... my theory is that DC has collected every single shitty asshole/teacher-pet/snitch/scummy loser from every single high school in the world to go live there... no matter where you were in the world, if you were a terrible piece of shit in high school, you found a way to get to DC by age 30
mircea_popescu: saifedean california worked that way previously.
mircea_popescu: but then they started cutting up the hitchhikers
saifedean: the lawyers are the best people in DC, and that says a lot
asciilifeform: saifedean: i actually went to a special school where they manufactured these!
mircea_popescu: saifedean incidentally, being a snitch is a legal obligaiton for usians now.
asciilifeform: it was 50y ago too, theoretically
asciilifeform: like in any other totalitarian pisshole
asciilifeform: 'failure to report crime, crime'
mircea_popescu: i dunno... the "i'm not a snitch" thing floats to the point of "what is an american' in my head.
asciilifeform: distinct from the official letter of the law
saifedean: i don't really understand how anyone could want to live in the US in this day and age... anybody who chooses to go live there is essentially an other-determined dweeb who cannot think for themselves and just follows what the tv tells them
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 18:20:42; ascii_field: lol re: new apple hardware released today being -slower- than previous
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was an actual 'news'. today they advertised various machinery, with slower clock than a year ago.
asciilifeform: no one, so far (afaik) has said anything.
mircea_popescu: saifedean people generally have an inborn, deeply selected ability to only hear parts. so, through this approach "we pay you 10k in salary on the condition you spend no less than 11k a month" sounds like a good deal.
mircea_popescu: "hey, that's 5x what i make here!"
asciilifeform: ^ california, sv, etc. in one paragraph.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and unlike the nkvd, they didn't even have to twist anyone's arm to keep quiet.
saifedean: "and hey! When I exercise my god-given right to diabetes... Obamacare will be there for me"
asciilifeform: i saw the figure and went 'wtf, what is this, some weirdo VLIW cpu with perversely spiffy pipelining?!' then rememberd 'nope, this is a garden-variety 'pentium m' box...'
mircea_popescu: i wonder if diabethes and gout will become punishable offenses in the us the way all sorts of "psychological" imagined stuff is.
mircea_popescu: they WERE in soviet russia after all, kulak's diseases.
asciilifeform: saifedean: except that it's a transparent scam, i, for instance, have the highest grade 'insurance' publicly sold in my locale, and it still offers nothing like the conditions found in civilized world
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so is this sheer incompetence, or is china ever so delicately strangling them ? "first, you get them made for free. then, you get them made for ten dolla, but you have to give us the blueprints. then, we only make them for you out of 2nd best items. and then... wait, you're still here ?!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not afaik. looks more like 'shrinkflation'
asciilifeform: like the canned soups that are more and more water by mass each year
asciilifeform: !s shrinkflation
assbot: 6 results for 'shrinkflation' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shrinkflation
asciilifeform: didn't think it would apply to cpu so soon.
asciilifeform: and that no one would stampede over it
asciilifeform: ;;google new macbook slower
saifedean: my brother is in med school and today he reported to me that according to the latest DSM, 25% suffer from psychiatric disorders... won't be long before they get this up to 100%
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mircea_popescu: i don't think the average smartphone user is smart enough to know what the cpu does.
saifedean: Yes We Can!
mircea_popescu: saifedean you familiar with tlp's blog ?
asciilifeform: but the traditional '90s obsession over clocks...
asciilifeform: gone? lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that was a different generation of kids. that weren't mentally retarded.
saifedean: i should have said: "25% of americans suffer from..."
saifedean: oh yes
asciilifeform: saifedean: as tlp describes, the 'disorders' are a socially-acceptable means to get officially approved to take various psychotropic drugs, for those who go in for this
asciilifeform: also, (see also tlp), to get gov. pensions, for politically-favoured ethnics
mircea_popescu: in the 70s, the occasional girl that went "i prefer older men" was kind of a freak. in the 90s, it was common enough. by now... i don't think any girl with options goes for boys her age. and so... there's your overclocking.
asciilifeform: what about plato's formula?
saifedean: if you want to go a little bit beyond TLP, try a man by the name of Jon Rappoport, and don't be intimidated by the cookiness... this guy was onto this stuff decades before TLP... and is far ahead
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled it
asciilifeform: girl = 1/2boy + 7 or what was it
mircea_popescu: saifedean the way this works is you have ot link it
asciilifeform: lol, rappoport! directly affiliated with d. icke, iirc? who gave us the lizards ?
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assbot: No More Fake News Jon Rappoport Investigative Reporter ... ( http://bit.ly/18wrOEf )
saifedean: dont think he's affiliated with icke or lizard people
saifedean: he also wrote a mind-blowin book called AIDS, Inc...
asciilifeform: 'THERE ARE NO DEFINITIVE LABORATORY TESTS FOR ANY SO-CALLED MENTAL DISORDER.' << this is known to anyone with even a vague, passing interest in the subject.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it ius a kinda common name
mircea_popescu: how exactly would such a test go ?
mircea_popescu: seems impossible by definition
asciilifeform: sorta like the 'if it works, it's not AI' thing
asciilifeform: or 'if it prospers none dare call it treason'
assbot: AIDS Inc.: Scandal of the Century: Jon Rappoport: 9780941523035: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENjGvP )
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 19:44:57; ascii_field: 'i counted, read the cards on the wreaths. said things like, 'from wife', 'from son', 'from mother-in-law' - but none said 'from vodka.' nobody died from vodka.'
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 18:48:35; asciilifeform: whereas the real issue is, whether google should be permitted to stuff arbitrary strange into mainline kernel on their say-so
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1046053 << you are seriously not missing out on anything.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 19:03:30; asciilifeform: the folks who are willing to use 'lynx' for 100% of their www needs already know who they are.
mircea_popescu: i can accept that SOME PEOPLE actually need their monitor to graphics. so make a gamestation. otherwise, we're fucking literate, we're not women, nothing beats text. ever.
mircea_popescu: if anyone claims something beats text he means that a) he's stupid and b) given a it's easier for him. fuck that person with old transformer cores.
asciilifeform: cad is a bitch with raw tty, but otherwise can't not agree
mircea_popescu: so make a cad station.
asciilifeform: sorta did.
mircea_popescu: so then.
mircea_popescu: you will not behehehelieve the improvements of productivity once you simply do not any longer support the methods of timewasters.
mircea_popescu: "no audio, no video, if you can't write it so i feel like reading it you never happened."
asciilifeform is presently lulzing at reciprocidad.provincianet.com.ar, where he is buying a ticket to ride argentina. like it were amusement park.
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asciilifeform: !up saifedean
asciilifeform once took the theory described above by mircea_popescu to its logical conclusion and bought an ibm 'green phosphor' tty.
asciilifeform didn't stick with it long-term, but that's a story for another day
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, that thing mails plaintext pw
asciilifeform: the ar entry fee gizmo, that is
asciilifeform: other u.s. folks take note!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6 ^^^^
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo also ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what was this
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah i saw that last year
ben_vulpes: it actually choked on my passport name
ben_vulpes: er, number
ben_vulpes: oh man i changed my name and have a new passport
ben_vulpes: i have to pay the reciprocity fee again don't i
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes went to ar last year!?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is not news.
asciilifeform forgot this somehow
ben_vulpes: !s steak from:ben_vulpes
assbot: 0 results for 'steak from:ben_vulpes' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=steak+from%3Aben_vulpes
asciilifeform vaguely recalls
ben_vulpes: !s steak from:benkay
assbot: 7 results for 'steak from:benkay' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=steak+from%3Abenkay
ben_vulpes: somewhere in there
asciilifeform: ^ that must be why forgot
asciilifeform: filed under old name in head.
asciilifeform: benkay -everyone knows- went to ar..
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the link in question is about amazon's use of emacs in their frontline customer support
ben_vulpes: what, he just did a runner?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at any rate, their online store thing claims it's valid for 10 yrs.
ben_vulpes: right
ben_vulpes: but it's filed under the old name.
asciilifeform: if you can prove same guy
ben_vulpes: what, do i bring all of my name change paperwork?
ben_vulpes: old, punched passport?
asciilifeform: probably ought to
ben_vulpes: will anyways.
ben_vulpes: ars is not actually the problem.
ben_vulpes: it's my own statal agents i've gotta convince the papers are legit.
asciilifeform: aha, on way back in
ben_vulpes: no, not even *in*
ben_vulpes: they actually won't let you on the plane without the paper printed out.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've seen the "amusement park ticket" requirement for Argentina.
asciilifeform: '2015-02-18 16:30:53 We are Now Processing Your Order [...snippetysnip...] 2015-02-25 15:16:28 We Have Ordered PCBs for Your Order / 2015-03-09 21:26:08 We Have Received PCBs for Your Order'
asciilifeform: ferfphuxxsake
asciilifeform: slowpokes.
asciilifeform: 'made in usa' and it shows
mod6: <+asciilifeform> the ar entry fee gizmo, that is << lol wtf, you have to pay a 'reciprocity fee'?
asciilifeform: mod6: aha
mod6: mp: you run .ar now right? just tell 'em im comin and it's all good.
danielpbarron: that meowmix character found me on another irc network -- i recognize the hostmask; it appears to be from my area as well
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: if he's human, he ought to win a 'least distinguishable from perl script' award of some kind.
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assbot: iOS 8.2 uses your home screen as an Apple Watch advertisement | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7joi5 )
mod6: jesus cristo, $160!?
danielpbarron: i created a folder to dump all the undeletable apps and hide the whole thing on the last page
asciilifeform lulzz at how iPnohe needs a remote controller now
asciilifeform: why not make these briefcase-sized again
asciilifeform: like '80s mobiles
asciilifeform: if you're expected to speak into the wristwatch
danielpbarron: oo what about a shoe phone like in those old detective shows
asciilifeform: hruschevphone
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asciilifeform: when are folks showing up in buenos aires again?
asciilifeform is about to buy ticket
mod6: i wont be there until like 9-10am friday morning. i leave on thursday afternoon.
cazalla: danielpbarron: i created a folder to dump all the undeletable apps and hide the whole thing on the last page <<< hah i do this too and the folder is titled useless
cazalla: but i don't use my phone much at all now since i was relegated back to iphone 4 after smashing the 5, if it wasn't for google maps i'd get rid of it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anything damning we ought to know about 'Aerolineas Argentinas' ?
asciilifeform: the price alone suggests that it might be their version of 'aeroflot'
asciilifeform: site is dead
asciilifeform: or hm, not
cazalla: tldr is that it's shutting down
asciilifeform: what even was it.
asciilifeform: hoster?
cazalla: gigaom was some tech site or other, never really read it tbh, just knew of the name
assbot: Farewell, GigaOm: Tech news powerhouse shutting down ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ac5R4R )
asciilifeform iirc never once heard of it
cazalla: here is the text from gigaom site if it's not loading for you http://dpaste.com/0BDQPTS.txt
asciilifeform: why this death is notable? did they go down 'in style', taking $maxint of chumpmoney into neverneverland with them ?
cazalla: not that it's notable, just serves as another example of what is to come for similar sites
cazalla: as for bezzle.. "22.3 Million in 6 Rounds from 8 Investors " didn't seem to help
asciilifeform: ;;calc (22.3*10**6) / (400*10**3)
gribble: 55.75
asciilifeform: cazalla: it would have bought ~55 buses in a major american city.
asciilifeform: betcha 55 buses would turn a profit.
asciilifeform: make it a nice round 50, have some left over for petrol & drivers
asciilifeform: (and bakshish for city hall)
decimation: asciilifeform: re: passports < did you notice that the us state dept. now issues an 'rf proof' sleeve with all passports?
asciilifeform: decimation: nope
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the ar entry fee gizmo, that is << i don't think you can readily imagine how tech retarded the argentines actually are.
asciilifeform: decimation: last i saw, you had to spend an extra buck & buy it
mircea_popescu: picture small siberian village cca 1995.
asciilifeform: srsly?!
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> i have to pay the reciprocity fee again don't i << reciprocisquat all the names!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13998 @ 0.00032155 = 4.5011 BTC [-]
decimation: http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/FAQs.html < " Laser engraving and state-of-the-art security features minimize the possibility of counterfeiting and forgery. The card is issued with a protective sleeve that prevents the card from being read when not in use."
assbot: Frequently Asked Questions ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ac7zDs )
decimation: apparently the state department 'officially admitted' that the passports were insecure and leaked info
decimation: re: apple watch < my question: did they spend an extra $10 for a temperature compensated crystal oscillator or does it have a cheapass crystal which requires constant correction
decimation: not that it much matters, given that it will barely work for a day without charging
asciilifeform: decimation: almost certainly the cheapest crystal (if any! might well have rc oscillator!) - given as the thing only works with iPnohe, which has always-on tcp
asciilifeform: (and hence ntp)
decimation: I thought it had its own built-in gps
mircea_popescu: <mod6> mp: you run .ar now right? just tell 'em im comin and it's all good. < haha nah.
decimation: ah apparently not. that makes it absolutely worthless for any purpose
mod6: awe!
asciilifeform: decimation: it's a remote for iPnohe. mega-snore. other vendors had these ages ago.
asciilifeform: (for turdroid)
decimation: yeah. I would be interested in it if it could be used as a heart-rate monitor only
decimation: but apple isn't in the business of making functionality
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: anything damning we ought to know about 'Aerolineas Argentinas' ? << i think they've notlost a plane yet.
mod6: mircea_popescu: is someone coming to pick me up from the aeropuerto tho?
asciilifeform: mod6 asks good question
ben_vulpes: 'twas promised!
asciilifeform: as in, from what day's the room booked, and till what
asciilifeform: because i'm being offered l337 discountz if come early & go late, etc
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> hoster? << gigaom was a ms shill back when ballmer was new and ms thought blogs might matter.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yup
mod6: aw sweet. thx!
mircea_popescu: "Gigaom is winding down and its assets are now controlled by the company’s lenders. It is not how you want the story of a company you founded to end. " << ahaha. this is so fucking convenient.
mircea_popescu: goes with my "Remember the inept newsweek goon, Leah McGrath Goodman ? The chick with the mortgage she can't pay on her own ? Like that other chick, like each and every other chick in this quagmire of chickdom ?
mircea_popescu: That's the thing. It looks like it should work, on the surface. If you don't dig too deeply, you may even come to the mistaken belief it worked for others. Meanwhile... Social Studies Do Not Work."
decimation: so the eu announced they would be printing euros, and in reaction german gov't bonds... rallied?
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 293.55, Best ask: 293.67, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 293.55, 24 hour volume: 66303.97185286, 24 hour low: 275.56, 24 hour high: 295.99, 24 hour vwap: None
decimation: as did bitcoin
asciilifeform: la finalizacion del soporte [!!!] para windows xp....
asciilifeform: ^^^ l0l!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can enjoy your discounts, vipness is accomodating.
asciilifeform: neato-matic.
decimation: 'nobody was fired for buying microsoft'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that thing is pretty much THE showcase thing, about 20 feet tall, two blocks from center of town, right by natl theatre
mircea_popescu: maybe they were going for that then
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 18:49:19; asciilifeform: a good chunk of the reputation of linus t. is that he's been fairly effective at keeping a lid on this kind of thing, historically
mircea_popescu: all the derps derping derpage about how linus "iusn
mircea_popescu: isn't nice"/up to whatever libertarded snuff miss the point by a planetsize. his capital 100% consists of reliably telling "authorities" to go fuck themselves. sorta like me, in his field.
mircea_popescu: which is why he is a central figure, and a nail off which many hats are hung. the moment he comes loose off of that, he lost it all.
mircea_popescu: this mentioned mostly to explain why om malik was never worth anything, and the "entrepreneurship" he deludes himself with / defrauded naive investors with pure puff.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 19:09:12; thestringpuller: punkman: keybase is forcing users to trust in central authority rather than forcing users to learn "their lessons"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: we may never know. just thought it was relevant when I saw it on r/bitcoin
mircea_popescu: pretty great.
mircea_popescu: the fact that it's one of the lamest "superheroes" (ghost something i dun recall) of one of the lamest "brands" (hanna-barbera, makers of utter age of crap atrocities like scooby doo and the jetsons) only bolsters the point
mircea_popescu: by like > 9000
thestringpuller: lol mircea_popescu never saw space ghost coast 2 coast
thestringpuller: Space Ghost had a night show before Colbert did you know...
mircea_popescu: and obama ate his own feces before pan troglodytes ?
mircea_popescu: what sort of contest was there.
mircea_popescu: !up JustSomeGuy
cazalla: mircea_popescu, do you get tamarillo's over that way?
mircea_popescu: if they do i never had one
danielpbarron: spaceghost is the show ATHF spun off from
cazalla: i read they grow em next door in chile.. quite nice (old guy over the back has a tree)
cazalla: it's like a tomato and passionfruit combined
assbot: Cementerio Parque De La Eternidad Del Grupo Funarg en Rosario, sucursal de Salta 3070,Rosario,Santa Fe ... ( http://bit.ly/1AbdKGL )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57426 @ 0.00032569 = 18.7031 BTC [+] {4}
asciilifeform: http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/LISP/MIT/Weizenbaum-FUNARG_Problem_Explained-1968.pdf << yes, that weizenbaum. (of 'eliza.') and pdf because scan of a scan of a xerox of a xerox...
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 19:31:23; decimation: http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/08/on-secretly-terrible-engineers/ < mostly rambling but has an interesting point "The difference between finance, management consulting, and engineering is that the first two fields have status hierarchy, and the third one doesn’t."
mircea_popescu: all fields have hierarchy. good fields like finance, consulting and [good] engineering have competence based hierarchy. bad fields like women in tech, women in blabla have derpage based hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: props to the idiot women running tech crunch nowadays tho, going to town with their typically idiotic "we claim nonsense as fact, because bois are generally too shy to tell us to stuff it"
mircea_popescu: "I’ve always been curious what all these people have been up to in the Valley. Where do they go all day? What do they do? If we are so surrounded by lackluster talent, how do we build all of these companies that seem to be taking over the world?"
mircea_popescu: ooookay.
mircea_popescu: taking over my penis already.
assbot: The lying liars who lie about psychiatry « Jon Rappoport's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1NCtzjU )
mircea_popescu: i'd prefer the opposite of b, but in no case am i interested in anything but the opposite of a.
asciilifeform: so perhaps it was -that- rappoport
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 23:56:03; asciilifeform: lol, rappoport! directly affiliated with d. icke, iirc? who gave us the lizards ?
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 23:56:39; asciilifeform: http://www.nomorefakenews.com << him ?
decimation: re: 'what do they do: http://acrossdifficultcountry.blogspot.com/2009/05/far-out-space-nuts.html < related “The Americans have gone to the moon. And the Russians. The Chinese and Indians will go there soon. Africans are the only ones who are stuck here,” Museveni said, addressing a meeting of the Uganda Law Society in Entebbe.“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”
assbot: Across Difficult Country: Far out space nuts ... ( http://bit.ly/1AbhjNb )
decimation: ben_vulpes: did you solve your osx emacs woes?
decimation: the macports 'emacs-app' works fine for me
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards < note the complete lack of modern intel xeons on the 'supported' list
assbot: Supported Motherboards - coreboot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AbjsbB )
assbot: Announcing Starfighter | Kalzumeus Software ... ( http://bit.ly/1AbkJ2C )
danielpbarron: i guess it wasn't bitcoind that caused the power cycle; just happened again just now and it wasn't running..
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> so perhaps it was -that- rappoport << seems entirely plausible
decimation: ben_vulpes: lol, maybe we can 'seo' the brains of prospective hires
mircea_popescu: i knew that church idiot wasn't the only cockroach in the kitchen
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is going to be the next personal trainer.
decimation: actually he is making exactly the same error that you claim the iq testing guys are making
decimation: the ability solve random puzzle games probably has nearly nothing to do with being a productive employee
decimation: it might yield interesting patterns across large demographics, but the bridge of causality has yet to be constructed
mircea_popescu: something like that
mircea_popescu: just like the pizzeria that gives you a cute plushie isn't necessarily going to be the best pizza for your buck.
decimation: there is a mystery: plenty of folks sit around all day playing WoW, etc for hours, and yet cannot find a productive 'real job'
mircea_popescu: the job thing cuts so low that it is absolutely NEVER the case ANYONE couldn't find a job. it's just they do not wish to do the jobs available to them.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd and 3rd degree losses from this far outstrip the 1st degree.
mircea_popescu: ie, random imbecile 20something figures it's ok for him to forego employment as the guy bagging my groceries on the grounds that he can do without the 380 a week that job pays, and besides, he's a college grad! so he plays wow.
mircea_popescu: this does not cost him just the 380, but also the ease of interacting with people that job would have forced upon him. so he has no girlfriend.
mircea_popescu: and also the sort of self discipline that job forces on him, so he is now also fat.
mircea_popescu: these are 2nd degree. then the town he lives in goes to shit, because no servants can be found, so smart people leave and usg moves in.
mircea_popescu: that's the 3rd degree. soon enough the whole charade collapsed.
decimation: then he's lowered into peasant-hood and has to work to eat?
mircea_popescu: he gets killed by a "terrorist" who proceeds to rape his corpse and boil his pet.
mircea_popescu: there's no easy ways out.
decimation: heh. others of his kind post on reddit about how terrible this is
mircea_popescu: for all the difference that'll make...
mircea_popescu: i suppose the terrorist can then wipe his bloody tool on reddit screencaps printed on archival paper
mircea_popescu: a normally functioning economy would incentivize him to get out of the loop, by for instance starvation. however... all this desire to "help people" the wrong way, and the overpowered and hyperactive mothers that overprotect the squirrulous fruit of their womb makes any sort of meaningful rescue impossible.
ben_vulpes: ahaha so let me trumpet the superiority of my woman for a moment
ben_vulpes: her mother's been banging on for a visit recently
ben_vulpes: lady v has scheduled this trip to coincide with con3
mircea_popescu: o, she's not coming over ?
ben_vulpes: wags was a bust last round according to you
mircea_popescu: ah yeah.
cazalla: danielpbarron, lol @rabite blocked me now
ben_vulpes: the troll who trained shanley? blocking trolls?
mircea_popescu: these guys must be really good.
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