svw: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117495 | regime policy is that race doesn't exist and all humans are created equal, so yes they can just say the opposite of directly observable reality
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 17:30:05 mats: its like talking to people who insist that the covid vaccines have caused vast and unseen (because its been covered up) harm to enormous numbers of people
svw: ask random vaxxed people about their health following the vax, extrapolate the rate of severe harms (undercounted because of survivorship bias) to the entire population, decide based on a prior threshold whether it's a culling
svw: but you won't because you would rather maintain status than contact reality
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117599 << once you read the spec, it will be quite obvious why it is (and must always be) udp-only.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 23:32:14 svw: pest being udp only is a problem but i will take a look at the spec maybe write yet another implementation...
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117599 << rec to try the existing ones 1st. (akris provides own logging)
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 23:32:14 svw: pest being udp only is a problem but i will take a look at the spec maybe write yet another implementation...
GregoryNyssa: asciilifeform: would you be interested in peering over Pest? recently I sent you an email.
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117497 << I would be interested in knowing more about the long-term health-problems associated with vaccines.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 17:31:46 asciilifeform: mats: i suppose you're solidly convinced that there was no fire behind that smoke. because wapo & nyt etc. and wouldn't want to lose yer teeth.
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117511 << I saw a video of that and it was quite puzzling.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 17:39:52 asciilifeform: mats: the folx who died elementarily because hospitals were 'full' (in fact, mostly closed, 'for reasons') also theoretically 'in a db somewhere'. or not. but in either case nobody's about to count'em or tell you the count or otherwise anyffin but 'shuddup, terrorist, conspiracist'
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117554 << I read the logs maybe twice a month.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 18:13:36 asciilifeform: there's what, 3 folx tuned in ( and maybe bouncers of long-dead ? BingoBoingo are you actually there?! )
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117561 << most evil comes from normal, middle-class people (acting in concert, not as lone wolves).
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 18:20:29 mats: i am missing the part of the story where global elites collaborate on one thing and compete in all other arenas, or appear to compete and for what or why
GregoryNyssa: During my teenage-years I suffered plenary insult and intimidation because of my reputation as a "weird" and "mentally ill" person.
GregoryNyssa: From parents, teachers, school-officials, classmates, and Evangelicals. Not from bankers, governors, and elites.
GregoryNyssa: One of the most consistent patterns that I have found, in dealing with (fellow) Americans, is: wherever there is even slightly prestigious education,
GregoryNyssa: there is a harsh crackdown upon "weirdness" and signs of "mental illness," and relationships are based more on mutual respect for avoiding "weirdness" than on reciprocal kindness and loyalty.
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117574 << I very much respect that the Mainland of China is not governed by a stratum of American degree-holders, unlike many other countries and jursidictions.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 18:32:51 mats: well, the standing committee. the politburo proper is overwhelmingly made of domestic chinese uni attendees
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117524 << Around a year ago I read Messengers of Deception by Jacques Vallee. It was quite an interesting book.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 17:47:36 asciilifeform: reich fixed 'leaks' when us psyops directorate in 1950s invented 'ufology' to get crashed seekrit jets permanently out of the press/public discussion
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117549 << As Mr Yarvin once said, being the CEO of the NYT is akin to being monarch of the United States.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 18:04:16 asciilifeform: conspiracist, astrologer', etc. if disagree with nyt, regardless, evidently.
GregoryNyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117518 << Would Scott Alexander belong to this category of discourse?
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-16 17:44:41 asciilifeform: mats wants to extend credit to the reich, give it benefit of doubt, believe at face value, because -- can only guess -- wants to feel 'part of respectable society', or at the very least to believe that he's living in 'vhs usa'. trying to argue him outta this is quite beyond asciilifeform's paygrade.
GregoryNyssa: I would be glad to speak more about semiconductors and such if any of you are free, after I am reconnected to Pest.