lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955096 << ty for going into more detail on this btw. This makes a lot of sense now
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-12 07:55:31 mp_en_viaje: use it like it's the enemy, if you will, because it is ; this doesn't reduce to "don't use it".
mp_en_viaje: man, watching uk labour, literally the oldest anglophone pantsuit bastion, go the way of the dnc...
mp_en_viaje: "does the labour party even have a right to exit ?!" no, it very well fucking doesn't.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: They don't. Labour forgets that they are the local "Regime change in Iraq" party which was a great way to fuck themselves into nothing as a "left" pantsuit party.
mp_en_viaje recalls their triumphalist idiocy during thatcher election...
mp_en_viaje: they have some history as a lolcow really.
mp_en_viaje: v for vendetta (the original, 0-circulation pulp) was actually a by-product of radical labour core attempting ideological supremacy.
mp_en_viaje: as this things ever work, not only completely failed to engage anything, but also became the proverbial broken arm to be fucked in the ass with.
BingoBoingo: Kinda how in every period record outside of their own reality distortion bubble, hippies were exactly materialistic theiving pichis
mp_en_viaje: myeah
BingoBoingo: Allowing them to defect back to society in the late 70s and 80s was a mistake.
mp_en_viaje: except for the part where it's unclear such a thing as society exists, past 90s.
mp_en_viaje: seems about as fake as "industry" or "economy", a putative imagined item, i'm supposed to believe "everything's online" just like i'm supposed to believe 0-value items are "an industry"
mp_en_viaje: but somehow i just can't quite manage. what society ? what anything really, compare 1989 mtv with 2019 mtv, what "music" ? what anything ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Well doesn't exists past 90s because they let the hippies shave and pretend submit in the 80's
mp_en_viaje: i mean, the orcs visibly still imagine some kind of similar miami, across various orclands. but this is very flimsy existence indeed.
BingoBoingo: That they do.
mp_en_viaje: hows uy revolution these days ? died down like any football match ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: That little helicopter on tilt and the one tank was enough to calm the kids down.
mp_en_viaje: wouldn't want to like, spill one's blood
mp_en_viaje: or break a nail or something. there's so much more futuro awaiting, it;d be a pity if any of them missed any of it.
BingoBoingo: As Tupamaro leader Mujica says "No hay que ponerse delante de tanque"
mp_en_viaje: principally because the transmission'll prolly break.
mp_en_viaje is watching some game of handball on tv in the background. "who's that one ?" "the blondy with the ponytail ?" "no, the other one" *tap* *tap* *tap* "1.69" "motherfucker".
BingoBoingo: But yes, kids got scared. Didn't even seem to show up last week. They could be quietly wrecking shit somewhere else, or not obsessing over Saturday night-Sunday morning
BingoBoingo: But...
mp_en_viaje: or carefully preserving their very valuable contents. you know, for later.
BingoBoingo: The ones that DID get caught. House arrest and not very much of it.
mp_en_viaje: they have to provide their own house ?!
BingoBoingo: Usually the mulas do that for them.
BingoBoingo: "If you don't have a scolding old crone one will be assigned to you"
mp_en_viaje: heh
BingoBoingo: For the ones under 18, INAU, the infants and adolescents agency literally assignes court ordered old scolds to the kids
mp_en_viaje: in other news, isil is evidently moving to a nuke. taking sahel uranium mines since summer ; the iranians are quite unhappy with the subsidy level so it looks like this is their "we'll do it without doing it" approach, transfer tech to isil.
mp_en_viaje: dirty bombing in, eg, frankfurt, oslo, whatever uppity old woman strongholds quite feasible by 2025 in any case.
BingoBoingo: Interesting developments
mp_en_viaje: but, yeah, the "great victories" in afghanistan, iraq etc have resulted in what looks like a whole-north-africa caliphate in the making.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, borish johnson
BingoBoingo: Well that Arab spring didn't seem to actually knock off any US/EU/NATO enemies. Just Ghaddafi who turned out to have been Europe's best friend this whole time.
BingoBoingo: In one of the few times History and Montevideo intersected
BingoBoingo: Fortaleza de Cerro in the background
BingoBoingo: Biggest difference then to now is... THere
BingoBoingo: 's less occupied structures in the neighborhood under the hill fort
mp_en_viaje: gaddafi was old, and no actual successor available.
BingoBoingo: Still, his sons probably had "Don't let dark africa discover boats can reach Europe" drilled into their heads since infancy
mp_en_viaje: honestly i see no further point to europe. other than the high rents, the whiteboys north of the mediterranean are just as african as the black boys south.
mp_en_viaje: in fact, probably the best thing one could do would be to take all the teenaged precious cuntlets from yurp and send them to niger & friends ; take the african girls in lieu.
mp_en_viaje: nothing quite like a little bit of reality crash, if experience's any guide.
mp_en_viaje: let 'em see how well "believe women" works on the mud floors, work out their "animal rights" aggenda on the goat that ate their last remainign crotchrag and so on.
mp_en_viaje: nothing quite like sleeping nineteen to the room for solving nineteen year old's "social anxiety" / awkwardness.
mp_en_viaje: famine-level poverty's in any case the best known solvent for girly pretense.
mp_en_viaje: from "sex & the city" to "an apple a day's a dream faraway" in pretty much one short generation, huh. what wonders socialism hath wrought!
BingoBoingo: God bless china buying all the New World food stuffs. I suspect Buenos Aires is prepping to do another run of export controls on beef now that their production's sorta recovered a decade later.
BingoBoingo: At the same time China's floating a free-ish trade agreement with Uruguay's next government, yet to be published. I suspect the aim is among other things... to cut out the Miami based re-shippers.
BingoBoingo: And generally reduce the US role as the place things go first before hitting the rest of the Americas.
mp_en_viaje: they're also doing "anti-terrorism" mixed exercises with the serb militsya
mp_en_viaje: transparently a "russkis couldn't protect you ; we will" demonstration, made all the more evident by the eurohag stance on it (ignore, rather than whine. whenever daddy's present the "liberated" cunts magically forget all the bullshit they have at the ready in all other circumstances)
BingoBoingo: Well the chinese seem to be improving the message targeting. To Uruguay "Why deal with the US who exactly competes with your exports when we have so much synergy... Baja la costa de vida"
mp_en_viaje: oh, and they're also buying 1bn worth of canadian gold mining interests.
BingoBoingo: Well, they do like shiny
mp_en_viaje: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-serbia-china-police-idUSKBN1Y21PK << "in an exercise at a Chinese-owned steel mill outside Belgrade."
mp_en_viaje: oh, and in ongoing lulz : https://www.navytimes.com/naval/2019/12/06/with-china-gunning-for-aircraft-carriers-the-us-navy-says-it-must-change-the-way-it-fights/ "
mp_en_viaje: To keep carriers relevant, the U.S. Navy must change how it fights, the new top officer says. (MC1 Toni Burton/U.S. Navy)
mp_en_viaje: WASHINGTON Just because China might be able to hit U.S. Navy aircraft carriers with long-range anti-ship missiles doesnt mean carriers are worthless, the services top officer said Thursday."
mp_en_viaje: funny shit, they're re-running 2014 tmsr logs, these people.
mp_en_viaje: Look, people dont give us enough credit for the gray matter between our ears, and there are some very smart people we have thinking about how we fight better. " and assorted great keks.
BingoBoingo: Lol, I saw the carrier piece's title on another site.
BingoBoingo: Seems like syndicated spamstro-turf
BingoBoingo: But I suppose this is how the USG press agents keep up with the times. They scroll back the logs 5 years and pretend the conversation was their own.
mp_en_viaje: aahahahaha, check it out, half the republicans in the house are openly going to vote agqainst.
mp_en_viaje: dnc tryina make it open vote, because they understadn they'll lose, but at least they want some drama out of it
mp_en_viaje: bwahahahah what a fucking week
mp_en_viaje: basically "we're imploding, the dnc is never getting another seat in the house, let's go out with a bang" kinda backfired as an exit strategy.
BingoBoingo has newsing to do!
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/12/airstrip-one-labour-party-suffers-greatest-collapse-since-1935-unlikely-to-recover/ << Qntra -- Airstrip One: Labour Party Suffers Greatest Collapse Since 1935, Unlikely To Recover
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/12/african-bus-arsonist-who-tried-to-burn-50-italian-children-in-his-care-blames-wops-for-not-letting-more-of-his-people-in/ << Qntra -- African Bus Arsonist Who Tried To Burn 50 Italian Children In His Care Blames Wops For Not Letting More Of His People In
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/12/13/a-walk-among-the-trees-of-v/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Walk among the Trees of V
mp_en_viaje: !Q later tell hanbot https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ei8CbiT4Hhs/VGP0mq3X_YI/AAAAAAAAABc/JhPPjuKEXaM/s1600/elephant.gif
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: The operation succeeded.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/31/working-with-ideals-and-perfections/?b=the%20history&e=whole#select << isn't that part weird ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: uhm, it is, apparently it's some messed up footnote, lemme see.
diana_coman: I fixed the issue though it's rather weird: for one thing I distinctly rememvber it was *fine* ie all of it in a footnote so not sure what/when broke, ugh; for the other, I had to split it into 2 footnotes - it was *fine* to take 2 <blockquote> spans but not the 3rd? wtf is this.