diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-21#1914756 - more observant people noted even then: nowadays one complains of sunflower oil for being "not what it used to be, not anymore" but grandparents used to complain that the olive oil was " not what it used to be, not anymore"; so, gradually boiling the frog makes frogs happy to be in the nice, hot water, what.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-21 00:28 mp_en_viaje: 1980s ro complained that "poor quality", as in, "ceausescu puts soy in salami, chickory in coffee and corn flakes in chocolate". yet 2010s ro paid extra for outside terms, and the middle term item of hipster interest.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: possibly the "gdpr" data protection thing
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, just about.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, this is actually a workable alt explanation, huh.
mp_en_viaje: though upon meditation it's not so clear it's truly alt.
diana_coman: not sure truly alt, no; rather simply noting that it has been going that way for quite a while and not very surprising at that; by the time it's already the ersatz of an ersatz of a meanwhile forgotten replacement, well...
diana_coman: re soy in salami + oils of all descriptions, I have this unforgettable experience of eating at one point some of those "salami" slices that ended up fried by mistake in... home-made daffodil syrup because it was actually looking more like oil than the oil and, well, mistaken bottle!
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, hahaha, "the best vermouth here is cough syrup" style
diana_coman: quite like that, yes; lolz.
mp_en_viaje: !!up voodoosurf
deedbot: voodoosurf voiced for 30 minutes.
mp_en_viaje: voodoosurf, yes ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in "holy shit i kick so much ass" , http://trilema.com/2014/natural-law-and-the-problem-of-definitions/
mp_en_viaje: fucking perfect, especially considering just how dependent "colonial empires" are on the inputs from the margin to mainain their "law" systems.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/am-mers-n-puli-sau-dekadentismus-nudapest-ndsm/ << Trilema -- Am mers-n puli, sau Dekadentismus Nudapest-NDSM
mp_en_viaje: with the added shame, of course, that james a donald hasn't, five years later, yet fulfilled ~his obligations~, natural as well as legal, to that piece.
trinque: anyone know how to get sbcl to cough up the error that caused a particular thread to terminate?
asciilifeform sadly does not. tho iirc you can sometimes join-thread and get eggog as if it were from single-threaded proggy
trinque: yeah, tried that, barfs about the thread already being toast
asciilifeform: trinque: back in the day i had catch-all condition handlers in main loop of thread, that shat to verbose logger
trinque: maybe the relevant bits are already gc'd
asciilifeform: quite likely
trinque: I'm going to catch all errors and have the thing log and restart, yes.
asciilifeform: trinque: asciilifeform's logger . used for many yrs. relies on 'bordeaux' thread glue tho ( can easily change to sbcl's built-in if needed )
asciilifeform: this is supposing you dun have a working one already ( gotta have the mutex, or lines end up munged, hence why i wrote this )
asciilifeform: i had this in a robotism thing where coupla dozen indep. threads where each ran separate xyz motor etc
trinque: thanks asciilifeform !
trinque: I'll implement this, and also see about a proper handler-case for shutting down gracefully and restarting
BingoBoingo: Since feedbot seems to be absent at the moment: http://qntra.net/2019/05/usg-now-targeting-chinese-toy-maker-dji-over-national-security-concerns/
BingoBoingo: For the record DJI has a more honest commercial presence in Uruguay than Caterpillar. The DJI storefronts have drones. The CAT store fronts cannot even order earthmoving equipment.
mp_en_viaje: hey asciilifeform , remember that ~really~ weird euro fuck that kept pestering you about whatever "bad things" you said about him / ruined his future a few years ago ?
mp_en_viaje: that nobody could make any heads / tails of ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: which 1 ? there were 2-3 iirc
mp_en_viaje: help me by listing names ?
mp_en_viaje: horvath ro something like that
asciilifeform: there was a...
asciilifeform: !#s ninjashogun
mp_en_viaje: ok, so believe it or not, sluts actually solved the mystery!
asciilifeform: iirc ameritard tho, but for some reason stuck in... hungary>
asciilifeform: ( or so he insisted )
mp_en_viaje: ( no-credit-nicole protests that what "sluts", just #slut)
asciilifeform: !!rated ninjashogun
deedbot: asciilifeform rated ninjashogun -1 at 2014/06/26 18:05:58 << nice try, usg - http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt
asciilifeform: ^ compleet with text chronicle
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, indeed. showed up at bdsm meet, heplfully showed us his dong. whole shebang starts with http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Arobwhiz
mp_en_viaje: THAT is what the missing link was. dork "critiqued" cardano.
asciilifeform: next mp_en_viaje will find that gavin et al are there also...
mp_en_viaje: then, supposedly, we ruined his life (in part through he getting banned off whatever shithub)
asciilifeform falls down
mp_en_viaje: also "purchased hacks", such as you know, bruteforcing passwords.
asciilifeform: howdja know it was him ? or did he find mp_en_viaje by beard
mp_en_viaje: it's a whole thing.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno, nicole found.
asciilifeform: nao that's sumthing.
asciilifeform: i expect he shines shoes nao or wat.
mp_en_viaje: ~nobody in empire.it is affluent, so...
mp_en_viaje: whatever, "consulting"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: nao i'm curious -- is hungary some sorta elephant graveyard where these go to die..?
mp_en_viaje: im sure he was born here. 30something.
asciilifeform: interesting. i had him pegged firmly as a classic ameritard
asciilifeform: mebbe he's a hybrid, like iirc adlai was
mp_en_viaje: i suppose it's possible.
asciilifeform: and apparently not so 'ruined' if he can eat in budapest ( which iirc is not esp. cheap city )
mp_en_viaje: not that expensive, nor that much eating.
asciilifeform: hrm i suppose, mp_en_viaje in phototour posted a price tag, fiddyeurobux for a mp_en_viaje-grade breakfast, notbad
mp_en_viaje: oh COME ON.
asciilifeform: or, lol, was that for 1 drink..?
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2019/am-mers-n-puli-sau-dekadentismus-nudapest-ndsm/#selection-138.0-149.153 << subj
mp_en_viaje: just because i go to budapest's finest and, among people taking one girl out for one cup of coffee, have the stephania steak / lamb in blueberries etc served TWICE, for my pair o fgirls....
mp_en_viaje: let's not get over ourselves here. happy meal is still $2 in budapest, hu as in budapest, txt.
asciilifeform sings, '...И на груди его светилась Медаль за город Будапешт!'
a111: Logged on 2014-03-18 02:20 ninjashogun: I'm Robert, as I mentioned. I hadn't talked to you guys before.
asciilifeform: iirc he changed nicks coupla times also.
asciilifeform: and pestered ben_vulpes , and possibly coupla other folx, out of band
asciilifeform: wanted 'raise awareness' or sumthing else not immediately reducible to 'gimme moolah' iirc
mp_en_viaje: makes the ~same wetware shannonizer impression irl.
asciilifeform: dunno that i've met such a marvel, who could do this irl. but will believe.
asciilifeform: ( i assumed that in irc he was working 5-6 marks at same time, hence the flavour )
asciilifeform: maybe naive q, but what's a d00d like that doing at 'bsdm club' ? say chix bites. he'll take her, where, to mchappymeal ?
mp_en_viaje: how do you suppose average relationships work out ?
mp_en_viaje: generally bdsm people do "scenes", meet once a week or w/e for a few hours and pretend / dream jointly about it.
mp_en_viaje: more affordable that way. and, in limine, i don't even see much wrong with it -- so some people who aren't f1 pilots gather around and rent the old cars for a few hours a few times an hour, spin them in an old salt flats. something wrong with this ?
mp_en_viaje: for as long as they don't pompously move into attempts at "governance", or in whatever other way forget their place, who can deny peacible coloveks the quiet enjoyment of their aftertea dreamtime ?
asciilifeform: fair'nuff. tho if the argentine club was anyffin to go by, most of'em dun even rent the old cars, but sit an' watch with open mouth
mp_en_viaje: as long as it satisfies them and doesn't get in my way...
asciilifeform would've asked 'why do they need to pay money and come to club to sit an' watch' but i recall mp_en_viaje [answered this puzzler][http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-20#1914729] earlier
a111: Logged on 2019-05-20 07:55 mp_en_viaje: they want to could have gotten laid.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-21#1914865 << it's an extremely successful strategy sexually (precisely because cunts run on perl, they're specifically optimized for just this sorta input).
a111: Logged on 2019-05-21 22:48 asciilifeform: dunno that i've met such a marvel, who could do this irl. but will believe.
asciilifeform: i.e. 'cold reading' ?
mp_en_viaje: it doesn't work nearly as well in pretty much any other field. excepting, perhaps, chicken theft, which is why it's called gypsy flirting.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 03:27 mircea_popescu: amusingly -- the chicken stealer (ro gainar, each language that saw them has its own word) is the lowest level of gypsy male qualification. a sort of transient baccalaureat if you will.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, no, literally shannonizing. just wordmatch and relay.
mp_en_viaje: if not, might as well, has to my knowledge best cinematic representation of the approach.
asciilifeform: not seen. but sounds like 'meat eliza'
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2014/daisies/#selection-65.0-79.1 specifically.
mp_en_viaje: it's exactly meat eliza, but with a sexual direction, rather than passive antenna.
asciilifeform: trinque: deedbot fell?