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diana_coman: mod6, asciilifeform BingoBoingo thumbs up, box is ready, thank you!
diana_coman: please remove kvm and cables
diana_coman: and as a customer of Pizarro I'd be very happy to know that BingoBoingo takes on the management role and gets it moving;also, re directions to my mind this forum here is a great place to come and ask about scary/unknown stuff *early*
diana_coman: I meant: to ask early about it and get help figuring it all out
diana_coman: !!up brazilish
deedbot: brazilish voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: brazilish, voicing is based on your standing with deedbot
diana_coman: brazilish, what are you working on?
brazilish: the real bitcoin node
brazilish: trying to set it up on a vps to give it a try
diana_coman: so what are you doing with it exactly?
diana_coman: aha; do you have a blog anywhere?
brazilish: no but i'll make one
brazilish: i'm trying to running trb on the cheapest possible setting
brazilish: currently is syncing on a single core kvm vps
brazilish: first question is: do initial sync benefits from moar cores?
diana_coman: there is that "I'm too poor to afford cheap things"
diana_coman: but anyway
diana_coman: brazilish, the good approach there is to gather data on that, publish it with discussion and link it here
diana_coman: and yes, do make yourself a blog
brazilish: actual stats on a 10 USD vps: 1.5h to compile w/o issues on debian 8
brazilish: then added a 30 usd 300GB virtual drive to store the blockchain, and started the syncing process
brazilish: now at height 200k is becoming painfully slow to process blocks
diana_coman: !!v 8376BDDBF18F260F7DF218B104B676C9726A5BB17942BA1CDAA49A6E5AD50C88
deedbot: diana_coman rated brazilish 1 << He says he's trying to run TRB and get himself a blog.
diana_coman: there, I rated you so you should be able to self-voice now
brazilish: thanks diana_coman
diana_coman: brazilish, did you get the timing patch and noticed lower timings or how is that "painfully slow to process blocks" evaluated?
brazilish: i followed the procedure on
brazilish: does it include this patch?
diana_coman: procedure for evaluating time?? link?
diana_coman: iirc no, it does not; did you read the log for yesterday?
brazilish: painfully slow: last 24h processed just 10k blocks
diana_coman: it's mandatory before talking in it today
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, going to get some caffeine in me and make it there
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, cool, no hurry
diana_coman: brazilish, it will get slower; iirc there is even some known further slow down ~300k ; that doesn't mean though that more cores will do anything; before you attempt throwing more cores at it or better disks or whatever, you need to understand *what* causes this slow down; so if you are serious about it, go and investigate and see where is the bottleneck
diana_coman: this is not even a bad project for starting, so go for it, just do it properly and publish the write up
brazilish: diana_coman: ok
brazilish: can i ask what specs have actual running trb nodes?
diana_coman: !!s trb node
brazilish: and approx how much time the initial sync needs with these specs
diana_coman: uhm, search for "trb node" in the logs - that's about the closest you'll get
diana_coman: brazilish, the fastest way to sync short of feeding the blocks directly is with the agression patch
brazilish: btw, I did my research about the evil of a virtual machine setup, but I'm just doing it to test a running node before having bare metal at my premises
brazilish: so wanted to stay on the cheap side
diana_coman: brazilish, nothing wrong with experimenting as long as it's done with a clear plan and then reported on
brazilish: diana_coman: i saw on the foundation site that you have an advertised node
diana_coman: and a serious dose of log reading seems required; do your searches, gather what answers you get from them , write them in a post on your blog and THEN if it's still unclear come and ask, with a link "here's what I figured out, here's what I still have no idea on"
brazilish: can i ask the specs of this one and if you remember how much has spent syncing?
diana_coman: you can ask; I don't see the benefit to either of us in an answer
diana_coman: !!up xdeller
deedbot: xdeller voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: hello xdeller , what brings you here?
brazilish: problem: downloaded asciilifeform_blackhole_reads.vpatch and placed in patches folder, same for the sig file in .seals, then running ./ p v trb054 makefiles.vpatch, but i don't get the patch in the src files
diana_coman: brazilish, do you understand how V works?
diana_coman: good; explain why do you think it should press that patch ?
brazilish: ok, got it now
asciilifeform: diana_coman: was mysql the only eulora component that misbehaved on musl ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it was the first; but also quite an important one
diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself
asciilifeform: life is pretty hard without 'screen', i'ma look at it as soon as i have own cuntoo going
asciilifeform: ( supposing diana_coman or trinque don't cure it first )
diana_coman: I still have to go through the rest and I'll probably report as I go
asciilifeform: << just about anything with 2GB or more memory will work -- trb is not really cpu-bound . a 1TB disk will last you 3-5 yrs until fills. ideally ssd ( though the exact penalty from using mechanical disk is not yet known, see last night's thread ). if ssd -- i recommend samsung's, cheapo ssd typically burns after 1-2 yrs of trb wear.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 13:37 brazilish: can i ask what specs have actual running trb nodes?
asciilifeform: brazilish: fwiw my personal everyday-use node is a box the size of my fist, cost about 100 $ ( not incl. disk ) , runs off a 12v line
diana_coman: asciilifeform, you know, ~all that is *already* in the logs; but I don't know what sort of shoving and pushing and prodding will get him to really search for it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: know what, yer right, i'ma let him dig.
asciilifeform: << ftr this is a ~very~ Bad Idea . for instance , i do not know in what starvation-cheapo hoster brazilish put his node, but if it was aws he will find that he cannot connect to ~any of the l1 folx's trb nodes, most people ban aws ip range whole
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 13:24 brazilish: i'm trying to running trb on the cheapest possible setting
asciilifeform: 'virtual' hosters attract undesirable faux-nodes, like rubbish bins in usa attract raccoon
asciilifeform: ( for old-worlders -- astonishing beast, can grow to german shepherd size, opposable thumbs unscrew jars, open doors... )
asciilifeform bbl,meat
brazilish: asciilifeform: is vultr
brazilish: different AS from aws, still under US control
BingoBoingo: diana_coman asciilifeform KVM is pulled
mircea_popescu: !!rated Bugpowder
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated Bugpowder 1 at 2013/01/27 08:10:09 << Old hand. Long time, no see.
shinohai: ah the good ol mp join/part bannhammer
mircea_popescu: !!rated pete_dushenski
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated pete_dushenski 2 at 2014/07/08 01:02:37 << Pimp.
mircea_popescu: !!rated mike_c
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated mike_c 4 at 2016/05/17 03:26:26 << the right honorable lord c.
mircea_popescu: !!rated azelphur
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated azelphur 2 at 2012/09/28 05:17:31 << joined Eulora even!
mircea_popescu: !!rated dooglus
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated dooglus 2 at 2016/03/07 09:36:24 << ran one of the best dice sites of all times, before being torpedoed by fiat government posturing. trb testing.
mircea_popescu: !!rated elaineo
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated elaineo 2 at 2017/09/26 04:47:52 << somehow manages to write unirritatingly while also academia. i have yet no theory as to how this is possible.
mircea_popescu: !!rated gabriel_laddel
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated gabriel_laddel 2 at 2016/08/12 12:08:25 << "McClim & stuff"
mircea_popescu: !!rated mats
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated mats 2 at 2015/04/07 21:29:49 << ; helping people get pogos, stuff.
mircea_popescu: !!rated mthreat
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated mthreat 2 at 2014/06/21 04:42:17 << Awesome search ; coffee
mircea_popescu: !!rated tcatm
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated tcatm 2 at 2012/02/28 11:40:39 << bitcoincharts fellow, sold me adspace.
mircea_popescu: !!rated vc
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated vc 2 at 2016/05/25 15:23:13 << hoster ; published "secret" supoena back in 2015.
mircea_popescu: !!rated Chillum
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated Chillum 1 at 2015/03/27 19:59:57 << wikipedia
mircea_popescu: !!rated TomServo
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated TomServo 1 at 2014/04/15 21:39:46 << New blood.
mircea_popescu: !!rated ageis
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated ageis 1 at 2012/09/28 05:16:16 << made a win binary for pympex
mircea_popescu: !!rated copypaste
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated copypaste 1 at 2016/01/11 11:08:55 << HotWheels / 8chan guy
mircea_popescu: !!rated diametric
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated diametric 1 at 2014/01/25 10:51:22 << mechanical engineer guy, S.NSA subcontractor
mircea_popescu: !!rated esthlos
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated esthlos 1 at 2017/12/18 16:20:18 << WRT lulz.
mircea_popescu: !!rate esthlos 2 At the rate he's going, promising lordship candidate.
mircea_popescu: !!rated guix
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated guix 1 at 2011/07/22 10:11:26 << Very helpful to first timers
mircea_popescu: !!rated herbijudlestoids
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated herbijudlestoids 1 at 2017/06/03 04:25:59 << missed on all the things.
mircea_popescu: !!rated irdial
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated irdial 1 at 2016/01/15 18:08:55 << new blood
mircea_popescu: !!rated isokivi
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated isokivi 1 at 2012/12/06 12:22:19 << Bitcoin cufflinks!
mircea_popescu: !!rated jossi
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated jossi 1 at 2018/04/13 22:09:13 << ukrainian-french girl working for the rich of nyc. wiwa la rebolucion!
mircea_popescu: !!rated kjj
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated kjj 1 at 2017/11/27 14:12:51 << Ancient.
mircea_popescu: !!rated kmalkki
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated kmalkki 1 at 2016/10/06 13:41:31 << coreboot
mircea_popescu: !!rated lyspooner
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated lyspooner 1 at 2012/03/08 14:08:03 << Old hand. Long time, no see.
mircea_popescu: !!rated mihi
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated mihi 1 at 2017/05/06 18:55:52 << can pcap. see also
mircea_popescu: !!rated namworld
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated namworld 1 at 2012/09/19 19:25:07 << Old hand. Long time, no see.
mircea_popescu: !!rated phillipsjk
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated phillipsjk 1 at 2015/02/05 17:56:00 << His simplicity is endearing.
mircea_popescu: !!rated polarbeard
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated polarbeard 1 at 2016/01/22 17:39:19 << Managed a V press.
mircea_popescu: !!rated reeses
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated reeses 1 at 2012/09/19 19:27:02 << Old hand. Long time, no see.
mircea_popescu: !!rated simonpenner
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated simonpenner 1 at 2017/02/01 01:12:26 << runs
mircea_popescu: !!rated teppy
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated teppy 1 at 2012/09/28 16:40:53 << dev of a tale in the desert (mmorpg)
mircea_popescu: !!rated vandroiy
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated vandroiy 1 at 2012/09/01 22:00:35 << Risked 5k of his own bitcoins to help a bunch of forum retards see the light.
mircea_popescu: !!rated znort987
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated znort987 1 at 2012/12/12 18:34:54 << he's in the MPEx faq
mircea_popescu: smoking nervously in the corner, cazalla mother[m] valentinbuza zineKing zx2c4 etc.
BingoBoingo: Well, everyone was warned in February during the last bleeding
BingoBoingo: The morcilla won't make itself
asciilifeform: oh hey woodchipper day
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:40 BingoBoingo: diana_coman asciilifeform KVM is pulled
asciilifeform: << in other recent lulz. guido van rossum (author of python) throws in the towel.
deedbot: << Qntra - Israel Bombs Their Gaza Concentration Camp Again
shinohai: <<< the budding freenode job board with 6 whole jobs for webshit enthusiasts
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fuck him, i dunno that he was part of any kind of solution at any point in his miserable existence.
mircea_popescu: COCsuckers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: d00d was a noxious twit for as long as i can remember
BingoBoingo: Of the worst kind. Made an alt-perl and then would not stop breaking it
asciilifeform: << not long ago i peeked at d00d's www, it is full of ???. even attends shitcoin 'conferences' nao.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 16:09 mircea_popescu: !!rate pete_dushenski -10
asciilifeform: in his words, lol, 'I never did make it down for one of MP’s famous conferences, then he stopped having them a few years back. So wut do.'
asciilifeform: mega-logic...
mircea_popescu: self-centerdness. it's a thing.
BingoBoingo: And dude *likes* Vancouver. Like what the fuck
asciilifeform idly wonders how long it'll take the drummed-out f-students to notice
mircea_popescu: define notice.
asciilifeform: dunno, douchebag-style, bang on the door and exclaim 'why me' etc
mircea_popescu: i dunno, what difference does it make ?
asciilifeform: none, entomological curiosity.
mircea_popescu: notice as in, you know, actually notice, "omfg i can't believe what a shithead i am, missed out on the financial bitcoin train and then on the political too, i truly am too stuipid to fucking live" and subsequently blow their brains out, as any sort of rational process absolutely dictates...
mircea_popescu: if they were capable of thought they wouldn't have the problems of idiots.
deedbot: << Trilema - Adventures con velas, and other things.
deedbot: << The Whet - And they said you can't take it with you.
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