#trilema | 2017-02-03

phf: moscow universities had explicit quotas for the applicants from the -stans, but it was probably not as obvious elsewhere

mircea_popescu: internet of pisspots

phf: my mom had one of those "papa escaped the purges by burning all paperwork but life got tough when they took our governess" piano teachers, who would lament about being forced to teach peasants and brown folk, not on racial grounds as much as "you have to have a bidet in your house for 3 generations, before you can touch a piano"

mircea_popescu: phf also wasn't so visible in moscow. what was it, 15% ?

phf: mircea_popescu: turns out that i have a very skewed perspective on life in su

phf: unrelatedly i was wondering if gpg passwords are promisetronic. how do they even work? there's some symmetric encryption scheme used to encrypt the privkey, or can passwords be somehow integrated into rsa scheme?

phf: it's a combination of passphrase mangling (by default sha-1) to derive the key, and symmetric algorithm (be default aes-128) to encrypt the privkey. i don't think we had any discussion about this..

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC5CBBBAC7C7334F34094822869BB06086D975653C6285708194CDE261E63882 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1682...6133 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '151.182.35.107 (ssh-rsa key from 151.182.35.107 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (151-182-35-107.red-acceso.airtel.net. ES MD M)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC5CBBBAC7C7334F34094822869BB06086D975653C6285708194CDE261E63882 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1768...3823 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '151.182.35.107 (ssh-rsa key from 151.182.35.107 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (151-182-35-107.red-acceso.airtel.net. ES MD M)

mircea_popescu: phf they're pretty shitty. tmsr pgp should prolly use a better scheme

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: $bzprtnr wants to know how to wholly replace /dev/urandom with $entropyfile to make gpg key with all speshul bits

ben_vulpes: and /dev/random at that

ben_vulpes: would be neat to dispense with linux' entropy estimates, etc

BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all

jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1008.82, vol: 10531.06242664 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 986.398, vol: 7193.37692 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1008.4, vol: 23127.155556 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1038.128, vol: 13380.53440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1009.036, vol: 3496.00396469 | Volume-weighted last average: 1012.66402758

shinohai: !~tslb

jhvh1: shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611084 << it is approximately as useful as trb's wallet encrypter, and for the same reason

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 05:46 phf: it's a combination of passphrase mangling (by default sha-1) to derive the key, and symmetric algorithm (be default aes-128) to encrypt the privkey. i don't think we had any discussion about this..

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611087 << there is no fundamentally better scheme, because the task as traditionally posed is braindamaged. as discussed in the old trilema re hdd crypto.

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 06:10 mircea_popescu: phf they're pretty shitty. tmsr pgp should prolly use a better scheme

asciilifeform: (if password is entered into the same machine as where the key is stored, a patient enemy simply has to remotely listen for a while, rather than walking away with machine like illiterate orc police)

asciilifeform: but yes phf any system where you enter a pw and it 'doesn't store' is promisetronic (can you see with your own eyes that it 'doesn't store' ? really?)

mircea_popescu: in other news from the lands of the retards, it is now impossible in argentina to buy normal male underwear. all they have on sale, ANYWHERE (because yes it's 10mn strong, but no there's no five distinct shops, just 10k clones of the same one) is male stripper underwear. because hey, faggots won the culture war or some dumb shit.

mircea_popescu: i suppose i should actually be doing this, accost young men, go "hey, you're a little bitch faggot, aren't you ? do you know what we do to little bitch faggots ?" while waving machete around.

mircea_popescu: then have him drop his pants to check, and cut off his penis once the inevitable COLORED ; WEIRD pair of GIRL panties shows up.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611088 << there is not a simple and hygienic way of doing this on linux

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 06:44 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: $bzprtnr wants to know how to wholly replace /dev/urandom with $entropyfile to make gpg key with all speshul bits

asciilifeform: (or any other unixlike)

mircea_popescu: we should prolly publish a kernel patch

asciilifeform: not a difficult patch, but remains to ask, for which kernel.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611095 << this is not actually true. trb wallet encryptor is pretty strong. not ideal, but there's no actual cause of worry if you lose an encrypted bitcoi nwallet (still, doesn't encrypt metadata, has many other warts discussed in http://trilema.com/2016/the-ideal-bitcoin-wallet/ ) ; i wouldn't say same re gpg keyring.

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 15:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611084 << it is approximately as useful as trb's wallet encrypter, and for the same reason

mircea_popescu: !!up pete_dushenski

deedbot: pete_dushenski voiced for 30 minutes.

mircea_popescu: oops

mircea_popescu: !!up peterl

deedbot: peterl voiced for 30 minutes.

PeterL: ty

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1611010

a111: Logged on 2017-02-02 17:39 mircea_popescu: oh and for the aspiring statisticians, here's a question : given that there's 40 different trilema headers, and one's picked each day randomly, how many days needs one visit trilema in order to have better than 50% chances of having seen all of them ?

mircea_popescu: aha ?

PeterL: I calculated 162 days

mircea_popescu: and how did you calculate 162 days ?

PeterL: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/afLAT/?raw=true << and I wrote a function in python that is just a tad more general

mircea_popescu: o hey

mircea_popescu: lol iterator

PeterL: I suppose there are more elegant ways of solving the problem

mircea_popescu: double iterator! holy!

PeterL: (actually, first I solved it in excel, then I thought it would have been simpler to write a python function, so I did that )

mircea_popescu: :)

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski what happens when k = n+1, do your fractions become overnumerary ?

mircea_popescu: damn

mircea_popescu: PeterL what happens when k = n+1, do your fractions become overnumerary ?

PeterL: k is never n+1, range starts at 1 and stops at n

mircea_popescu: in which we find python uses () incorrectly : it's inclusive on the bottom and exclusive on the top ? shouldn't it be [) then ?

mircea_popescu: but anyway, PeterL , in fair trade : do you know what a poisson distribution is ?

PeterL: I've heard of it, yes

PeterL took a stats class in college, but that was many years ago

mircea_popescu: poisson was actually a doctor, and clasically his thing is applied to the question "if on average the er sees six patients a day, what are the odds of it seeing 74 this monday morning"

mircea_popescu: lambda ^ k * e ^ -lambda / k!

mircea_popescu: your lambda here is not linear, is the only change.

shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/mb3ku/?raw=true

jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611101 << more than one lady friend has lamented that the gays took over female fashion too. sexual ideal is a teenage boy? mkay

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 15:41 mircea_popescu: in other news from the lands of the retards, it is now impossible in argentina to buy normal male underwear. all they have on sale, ANYWHERE (because yes it's 10mn strong, but no there's no five distinct shops, just 10k clones of the same one) is male stripper underwear. because hey, faggots won the culture war or some dumb shit.

trinque: they're ruining gender expression for everyone

shinohai: So it appears Theymos is now calling for Satoshi's coins to be destroyed.

mircea_popescu: i am unsure about that part ; left to their own devices female gender expression is what you see in 1970s pornos.

mircea_popescu: there's apparently a whole lot of hair rubbing on the abdomen.

mircea_popescu: shinohai remarkable how many craws teh satoshi manages to stick into huh.

shinohai: Oh wait, seems this was published roughly 8 months ago ... but had not heard him speak this retardation.

mircea_popescu: one year seems a reasonable polling interval considering the relative importance of the object.

asciilifeform: shinohai: what means 'destroyed' ?

asciilifeform: ( same crackpottery as in my old http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1009 ? or something else..? )

shinohai: http://archive.is/KJFeJ <<< Source is a VERified outlet, so take it with a few spoons of salt

asciilifeform: ah so same.

asciilifeform: '...there is a possibility that security researchers will be able to break ECDSA-protected bitcoin addresses in the future. If this were to happen, they could gain access to the coins belonging to Satoshi Nakamoto, and dump them on the market...' << why does it follow that 'let's dekulakize satoshi' but not someone else?

asciilifeform: 'One softfork, which would activate ASAP, would assign an OP_NOP to OP_LAMPORT (or whatever QC-resistant crypto will be used). Everyone would be urged to send all of their bitcoins to new OP_LAMPORT-protected addresses.' << lel, did d00d learn of lamport's sig algo from pediwikia, or wat

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/6kZ5a (via subj) << apparently this nonsense never entirely dies

mod6: That's just what it is, nonsense. Nonsense from scammer scumbags.

mircea_popescu: lmao "qc resistant crypto"

mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with these idiots.

mircea_popescu: ~same as an island full of monkeys going "and if the spanyards come and burn down all our houses ? WE MUST BUILD SPANYARD PROOF HOUSES"

mircea_popescu: really bitch ? and out of what, exactly ?

shinohai: No one expects the Spanish inquisition

mircea_popescu: "THE VERY MATERIALS THE SPANISH WILL FOR THE FIRST TIME BRING !!1"

mircea_popescu: makes sense.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only possible follow to the idiocy is, of course, the usg declaring that it HAS!11 qc, and the ustards also believing.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a seeing-is-believing affair tho

asciilifeform: 'i haz rsa breaker' 'so here's this key, go break?'

mircea_popescu: if it worked with the "sorry we didn't know it was invisible", then why not quantum something

asciilifeform: recall sci.crypt in 1990s.

asciilifeform: every other week, a crackpot, 'i broke!'

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're apparently unfamiliar with how the usg works ?

mircea_popescu: "we choose not to run".

asciilifeform: well normally it works like stage magic, 'looksee, we broke! rabbit from hat' 'oh noe we didn't put the rabbit in beforehand'

mircea_popescu: i dunno ; the "two weeks to take mosul" worked even better than that.

asciilifeform: wasn't that after the 'vietnamization' of iraq ? (what they called the last handover-of-quagmire-to-aboriginals)

mircea_popescu: no us agency.

mircea_popescu: the only thing they handed over was a) own arsehole and b) pellets of dollar bills.

asciilifeform: ..pallets?

mircea_popescu: right

mircea_popescu: (nobody seems to remember, by the way, that the downing of the f117 "invisible" wasn't JUST THAT. the serbs had also CRACKED NATO CODES. the fucking serbs. there's barely enough of them to play football.)

asciilifeform: the one 'quantum comp' that is a reasonable possibility is the perpetuum mobile sort. where, e.g., a class of weak (i.e. cheaply breakable from birth, or from a few published signatures) rsa keys is discovered in the dungeons, and dressed up into a 'we haz magical rsa breaker box, go switch to $shitcrypto'

mircea_popescu: yes but sadly they're all on phuctor's page nao.

asciilifeform: http://archive.is/EuvsR << in other lulz. 'Protesters storm NYU over conservative speaker’s seminar'

asciilifeform: 'The protest was apparently organized on Facebook, under the name “Disrupt Gavin McInnes at NYU.”'

asciilifeform: '“Come to Kimmel, Rosenthal Pavilion to let NYU know that we will not stand for bigotry, racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny on our campus,” the event page reads. “Gavin McInnes has a long track record of using incendiary language to attract media attention and frenzy…Most recently, in December 2016, Gavin McInnes launched an informal group called the Proud Boys, an “anti racial

asciilifeform: guilt,” anti-feminist organization. When NYC Antifa began to share information about members of the group with their employers (in many cases leading to job loss), McInnes urged the Proud Boys to attend an Antifa concert and ‘wreck the s–t’ of the ‘f–gots.'”'

asciilifeform: in quite other noose, moldy returneth! e.g., http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1731729

mircea_popescu: in other news * Your host is verne.freenode.net[185.30.166.37/8001], running version ircd-seven-1.1.4 is an utter piece of shit, disconnected me what, a dozen times past few days ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611187 << and did they ?

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 17:48 asciilifeform: guilt,” anti-feminist organization. When NYC Antifa began to share information about members of the group with their employers (in many cases leading to job loss), McInnes urged the Proud Boys to attend an Antifa concert and ‘wreck the s–t’ of the ‘f–gots.'”'

asciilifeform: not afaik.

mircea_popescu: i guess we know who the faggots are then huh.

asciilifeform: 'I love how when you scrape away the “reality-based community” and “I fucking love science,” all you’re left with is “the Republic has no need of savants,” or possibly “please continue talking after I shove you in this locker.”'

mircea_popescu: um ?

asciilifeform: from lulzthread. entomologists can grep 'boldmug' .

mircea_popescu: which "the republic" ? wut is this about ?

asciilifeform: http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1731849 << he was discussing french rev.

mod6: <+jhvh1> shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds << I'm not sure who is the admin for this one off hand, but is there any opposition to adding the current block height on there along with the time?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611054 << i'd be curious to read what a hypothetical 'nonparticipation' would look like -- carmack no-shows, judge awards default? carmack burns own factory, a la 1918 ? or which.

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 01:13 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1611044 << simply participating in the us masquerade of justice by this point is tantamount to "asking for it".

asciilifeform: as for the trial, the description reads quite like every other 'seekrit evidence' affair.

asciilifeform: with bonus dose of 'ooh we did not find everything we wanted, He Must Have Burned It'

asciilifeform: from my perch, carmack is an esr -- he was enriched in fiatola by praying to 'intellectual property' molloch, and now what molloch gave, he taketh away.

ben_vulpes: trial is marvelous expansion of moloch's reach

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: carmack had to show up, new employer was on trial.

ben_vulpes: nonparticipation is "all our assets are in btc, get fucked"

ben_vulpes: obviously not a possible route for zuckerberg.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: carmack is not unlike kamenev and zinoviev -- a creature of the system that in the end devoured him

ben_vulpes: id software, a tentacle?

ben_vulpes: at this point the obvious rejoinder is "if not in wot -- tentacle"

asciilifeform: the ~pile of usd~ is a tentacle

asciilifeform: the intentions of the folx sitting on top of said pile -- distant, secondary thing

ben_vulpes: by virtue of it being fiatola, the possessor is a tentacle?

asciilifeform: a fat balance in an 'international komyoonity'-compliant fiatola bank is quite like, e.g., fleet of winblows boxen, or iPnojes, etc. -- a golemtronic appendage of usg, rather than instrument of the supposed owner

asciilifeform: the latter plays the part of a draft horse -- housed and fed while he continues to do as he is told, otherwise, whipped, and if incorrigible, sent to butcher

asciilifeform: (or, in some cases, a pig -- raised for the table to begin with. i do not know enough re carmack to say which type of farm animal he was groomed as)

thestringpuller: or maybe carmack is man who couldn't control own monster he created and killed him

thestringpuller: quite common for gamedevs.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: elaborate ?

thestringpuller: when ID came under control of ZeniMax to begin with...

thestringpuller: Carmack lost control of the machine and it ate him.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: carmack & co sold the firm, neh

asciilifeform: for, as always happens, pixie-gold.

asciilifeform: with it, as also often happens, he sold his arse.

asciilifeform: now -- it was claimed by the purchaser.

ben_vulpes: always a shame to see people trading unhedged.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how would you have behaved in carmack's position?

asciilifeform: ( and since mircea_popescu is asleep, i will quote my robopopescu, 'carmack should not have been in this position to begin with, should have been making rockets for hezbolla, instead of 3d goggles' )

ben_vulpes: i'm not the kind of guy who "just wants to keep making video games", so i'd never have stuck around in the first place.

ben_vulpes: it's not "fuck you money" if you can't actually say "fuck you".

ben_vulpes: (bought moar btc obviously)

ben_vulpes: even if carmack is still extracting the remainder of his golden handcuffs at facebook, does the penalty impact him terrifically, beyond the decline in asset value of fb stock?

asciilifeform: i've nfi. but would be surprised if he is not 'made example' of, to remind other carmacks that anal virginity can be sold ~once~

ben_vulpes: what is anal virginity, rights to code produced by a carmack?

asciilifeform: aha. sorta like the racker pg et al run.

asciilifeform: *racket

ben_vulpes: 'like' how? isn't the yc racket a straightforward "give us a large fraction of your eyeballcorp for a pittance and some quite likely useless advice"?

ben_vulpes: or did i miss out on yc making bank from all of the devs the rights to whose work they now own a fractional slice of

asciilifeform: exactly same. carmack et al sold id co. for $bagoffiatola. which they, quite likely, delusionally thought to be capable of buying such a thing as a defense against the new owner in case of arse claim.

ben_vulpes: huh turns out the individuals are on the hook for damages, i missed that on the first pass.

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611199 <<< tis mine mod6, but that's a good idea. I haven't changed much of the historical gribble functionalities.

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 19:08 mod6: <+jhvh1> shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds << I'm not sure who is the admin for this one off hand, but is there any opposition to adding the current block height on there along with the time?

shinohai: "We have prepared $100 million USD to kill the small fork of CoreCoin, no matter what POW algorithm, sha256 or scrypt or X11 or any other GPU algorithm. Show me your money" http://archive.is/gHLrS

shinohai: Someone wants to be mircea_popescu

mod6: shinohai: ah, cool! yeah, no worries or anything. just was a thought.

asciilifeform: 'In any event, there would be no incentive to attack rather than earn the reward, but for a PoW fork of bitcoin, miners, who have invested hundreds of millions, if not more, in their hardware, would have a clear incentive to make the forkcoin inoperational.' << how does this work?

asciilifeform: even a trivial pow fork -- bricks old miner

asciilifeform: (it can die at the hands of new miners, from disuse, from boredom -- but in no way from the efforts of traditional asic operators)

shinohai: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368118.msg17724407#msg17724407 <<< In which covertress decides "crypto" is no longer her thing.

asciilifeform: '

asciilifeform: While Krypton-Dev and I disagree on fundamental ideologies (Me: “America First”, He: “I trust China more than the US.”) I understand that they are paying him well and I wish him the best of luck.' << lel!

shinohai: You're gonna need it.

asciilifeform: snore, escapeed from 2011 tardstalk

asciilifeform: *escapees

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/tor-based-hosting-service-hacked/ << Qntra - Tor Based Hosting Service Hacked

shinohai: https://twitter.com/konklone/status/824312675312271363 "It's done! https://www.senate.gov is now fully migrated to HTTPS!"

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other monkeystans, http://archive.is/VKTgR

asciilifeform: 'Swedish Deputy Prime Minister and Climate Minister Isabella Lövin appeared to mock the Trump administration with a photo of herself surrounded by women as she signs a climate law.'

asciilifeform: shinohai: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00023 << lulzy

shinohai looks

shinohai: "To create a point of order against legislation that makes women sick again."

shinohai: kek

asciilifeform: there's a bunch moar 'sick agains' in the docket

asciilifeform: trololol

shinohai: Someone hacked https://antifascism.org/ lmao

shinohai: "

shinohai: We are currently working with law enforcement on our website. The violent hate-filled people who did this will be brought to justice."

asciilifeform: http://archive.is/eSHV2 << other judges join zergattack

ben_vulpes: "It's obvious that this put hundreds of thousands of people into a state of great discomfort," << discomfort lol

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu you were right: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15939 << gcc is profoundly retarded

jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: in other perversities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGbdZUCl9CA

mircea_popescu: sooo apparently freenode is under standing orders to disconnect this box

ben_vulpes: TIGHT

ben_vulpes: the subterfuge grows ever more obvious

mircea_popescu: these dorks are barely qualified to partiicpate in highschool./

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: kicked by nick? ip? other fingerprinting?

mircea_popescu: "lagged out".

mircea_popescu: because totally, that's how the internet works.

mircea_popescu: i dunno, i guess i should be impressed or something ? in any case i aren't ; grow a pair, come be slaughtered like pigs already wtf.

ben_vulpes: message displayed in chan is "ping timeout: 260 seconds"

ben_vulpes: i don't really want to know any more about the irc protocol than i already do

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same fleanodetron each time? or different boxen

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: protocol fits on a playing card

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "commands" as well?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you dun 'pong' within few seconds of being 'pinged', drops

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform using the same verne yes.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the box pings alright. but hey, "can't hear lalala".

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: also subject to all classical tcp abuses (enemy can close connection for you without breaking a sweat or any cooperation from counterparty)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cooperation from counterparty is certainly giving out ips.

asciilifeform: helps, but not required.

mircea_popescu: in this case it is, yea.

asciilifeform: a tap on any of a dozen boxes (e.g., archive.is) will reveal ip used by any of the folx here on a particular day.

mircea_popescu: i do not use this box for any other prupose.

mircea_popescu: so yes, the tap went to fleanode.

mircea_popescu: hey, "law abiding" right ? all it takes for the empire of rogues to exist is a bunch of law abiding dorks.

mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, there's apparently a city in pennsylvania called "california", which has a university, which is called... california university. in pennsylvania.

mircea_popescu: i imagine they have a dentist specializing in bucktooth palleatives with a fabulous practice

hanbot goes to said uni's site, sees "vulcan information portal", leaves

shinohai: lmao

asciilifeform: waiwut

mircea_popescu: wait, the aircraft cannon ?

shinohai: This made my day: "Thanks, @SatoshiShinohai, my feed is now Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Trump, Bitcoin, Trump, pussy"

mircea_popescu: ask him if bitcoin trumps pussy

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#161 << carmack moves out of the us, spends the rest of his days mailbombing us military bases.

scriba: Logged on 2017-02-03: [19:20:50] <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611054 << i'd be curious to read what a hypothetical 'nonparticipation' would look like -- carmack no-shows, judge awards default? carmack burns own factory, a la 1918 ? or which.

mircea_popescu: but yes, very much "creature of system". what's usg oligarch to do ? not like he has any value to anyone else.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#196 << people who live in prison are stuck learning prison conceptual universe. plox do, how's one to explain.

scriba: Logged on 2017-02-03: [20:21:11] <ben_vulpes> what is anal virginity, rights to code produced by a carmack?

mircea_popescu: it certainly follows that if my pet takes a liking to someone else i'll shoot it, wtf is it my pet for ? there's no pet divorce.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#206 << yeah, someone and his cat apparently.

scriba: Logged on 2017-02-03: [21:05:19] <shinohai> Someone wants to be mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: who the fuck is "btc.top" mining pool ? did they put the toomim brothers back in the vat, took them out as green lantern or something ?

mircea_popescu: "Zhuoer, who speaks in broken English, therefore his quotes have only cosmetically been modified to make them grammatically sound, tells CCN that he learned" << epic ethic flavour! minorities know best!

shinohai: Suddenly all these new Chinese mining pools coming the fuck outta nowhere.

mircea_popescu: is chinese better than romanian in terms of symbological ethnicality though ? I GUESS TIME WILL TELL!

shinohai: Since I came to #trilema, I trust few people who can't speak more than one language.

mircea_popescu: monolinguals make great draft horses and naught much else.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170203/#220 << pussy offering itself up for grabs, eh ? and then we're supposed to buy into this whole "i'm totally angry" narrative ? aww.

scriba: Logged on 2017-02-03: [22:13:54] <asciilifeform> 'Swedish Deputy Prime Minister and Climate Minister Isabella Lövin appeared to mock the Trump administration with a photo of herself surrounded by women as she signs a climate law.'

asciilifeform: shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-15#505078

a111: Logged on 2014-02-15 19:34 asciilifeform: i can make 1TH look like 1,000 1GH lamers. and so can you, and so can any spammer.

shinohai: Recall the `Classic` team did this already.

mircea_popescu: !~google arnaud charlet

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: dblp: Arnaud Charlet: <http://dblp.uni-trier.de/pers/c/Charlet:Arnaud>; Arnaud Charlet | LinkedIn: <https://fr.linkedin.com/in/arnaud-charlet-b835488>; Arnaud Charlet | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/arnaud.charlet.1>

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the main problem with the world in general is this cloud of university plankton.

mircea_popescu: i have nfi why they're permitted to still exist.

asciilifeform: ikr?

mircea_popescu: i guess as per your "i can trivially pretend to have a 1TH man through employing 1k 1GH chickens" but still.

asciilifeform: unlike these chickens, hash splits nicely, and still pulls, like the housecats pulled freya's chariot

mircea_popescu: here's the scoop : if you're a nobody-professor-of-something-or-the-other you aren't above the average barrista. there is legitimate need for many many girls working the bar, working the pole, working the spotlight, working the suckers, working the cock etc.

mircea_popescu: there is NO need of twenty "professors of philosophy".

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile all the panglossen are entirely wasting the baron's cheese.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: scarcely ever are these d00dz professor of anything

asciilifeform: typically -- academipeon

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://dblp.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/c/Charlet:Arnaud << random nobody, did a coupla of papers in a decade, moved on to gay for pay or w/e it is they do to support themselves in europe these days.

asciilifeform: this dun look like a papermonkey, but moar like industrial grunt ordered to write paper once a decade by pointyhair boss

asciilifeform: monkey churns out one per ~week, typically.

mircea_popescu: Project Management Officer at EDF Région de Marseille, France Ingénierie mécanique ou industrielle

mircea_popescu: Précédent EDF, The University of British Columbia Enseignement

mircea_popescu: seems EXACTLY uniplankton to me.

mircea_popescu: and no, there IS NO fucking reason british columbia should even have a refurbished adult theatre which it pompously if pointlessly calls "university"

shinohai: What a waste of a perfectly good Adult theatre

asciilifeform: iirc pete_dushenski went there?

mircea_popescu: it is not physically possible for the barren fucking wastes to have such a thing as a university much like it's not possible for a two inch songbird to have "an erect penis"

mircea_popescu: shinohai 84f71d7bcf48a9ba5602ff7292237e8c3a07a9c7711837645764ba1773ae8854

ben_vulpes: in turing test inversions: https://medium.com/@NoraReed/the-saga-of-christianmom18-8ac09ceab9c6#.tr0yew72q

ben_vulpes: ohai danielpbarron