thestringpuller: trinque: dunno if this is reasonable: but for !!wot could we possibly also get !!signedwot ? That is deedbot returns a signed wot-sexp timestamped from some point? doesn't have to update in real time, maybe once a week? ty for your time.
thestringpuller: mod6: what's jeezy's numba one rule ? ;)
mircea_popescu: these "social sciences" idiots. so don't you know, online polls are "unscientific" because they're "opt-in", ie they reflect the views of people who wish their views reflected. meanwhile their "scientific" polls are what, they call people up, ask them some questions, and if those people hang up they ??? get a court order ? get the schmuck sentenced to jail without a definite term, us style, "the key is in your pocket mr!" ?
mircea_popescu: "we allow trivial enumeration of users! just like facebook! and reddit! whoooo!"
PeterL: pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2016/10/13/needalittlejohnsoninmylife-adnotated/#comment-51124
mircea_popescu: the terms of art are giant douche and turd sandwich pete_dushenski
mircea_popescu: oops i mean PeterL
thestringpuller: interestingly the masses want to bring that same choice to bitcoin. luckily its kinda immune to the stupidity.
thestringpuller: maybe people just want to choose between a turd sandwich and giant douche.
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that.
shinohai: choose thy master for next 4 years
thestringpuller: or any debate really. BingoBoingo made a really good blog post about it in relation to sports fanatics.
mod6: <+thestringpuller> mod6: what's jeezy's numba one rule ? ;) << don't get caught
PeterL: mircea_popescu in this case it is fun to go with the anatomical descriptions to complement Johnson
trinque: thestringpuller: I would rather change !!wot to encrypt to the key making the request.
mircea_popescu: not like it's not public ?
trinque: isn't that, but rather, he wants to know he got the wot dump I sent
trinque: really this is a problem of the wire, not the bot
mircea_popescu: but he doesn't get to know that.
trinque: yeah, as I think about it, seems like not a thing.
mircea_popescu: did i miss this discussion in the log ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-14 11:14 thestringpuller: trinque: dunno if this is reasonable: but for !!wot could we possibly also get !!signedwot ? That is deedbot returns a signed wot-sexp timestamped from some point? doesn't have to update in real time, maybe once a week? ty for your time.
mircea_popescu: if you're gonna sign it might as well dump it in the deeds. but it seems rather excessive.
thestringpuller: never thought i'd hear that from mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: !#s excessive from:mirc
a111: 34 results for "excessive from:mirc", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=excessive%20from%3Amirc
mircea_popescu: anyway. jus wait for gossipd, it'll solve this.
kmalkki: apu2 (with AMD PSP) does respond properly to JTAG IDCODE
kmalkki: but there is off-by-one error in the bitstream in shift DR stage for HDT commands
asciilifeform: kmalkki: iirc in evil mode, it jtags (for pin testing) but won't halt
Framedragger: couldn't find anything after (very) cursory glance at logs, so, random question #667: has anyone considered crawling tor hidden services for their rsa (1024 bit iirc!) keys, and dumping them into phuctor? apologies if there was already a discussion with regards to this.
Framedragger: as of now this is more-or-less trivially doable. later, tor will move to a new hidden service model where it'll be more difficult to crawl for things. (right now, you can run a node which after a while (if stable enough, etc.) becomes a hidden service directory, and then (if you're sneaky enough) you can log all hidden service key requests, therefore obtaining a large bunch of fingerprints -> public keys.)
mircea_popescu: iirc was briefly discussed, nobody gave much of a shit about tor
asciilifeform: Framedragger: iirc this was suggested but nobody did
Framedragger: keyword for future log searches: hsdir
mircea_popescu: i think you might be the only fan here.
Framedragger: such fan!11
Framedragger: well it'd amount to public service for current HS operators; perhaps indeed too much effort. but many lulz, and educational. ok, gotcha. not committing to anything, will ping asciilifeform if i obtain anything. :)
mircea_popescu: there was (perhaps more usbstantially interesting) an effort to get the historical databases with silk road junk as maintained by some pothead sifted, both for rsa keys and whatever else
mircea_popescu: but this also went nowhere.
Framedragger: also for future logs: http://donncha.is/2013/05/trawling-tor-hidden-services/ (i know i know, noone cares)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: oh, yea. maybe it was this gwern dude. (his summary of studies on melatonin *was* helpful for me, so there's that...)
mircea_popescu: yeah, pretty sure it was
mircea_popescu: !#s gwern
Framedragger: (gwern is this eclectic fella who collects all kinds of trash on his site. interestingly, sometimes it piques one's curiosity. http://www.gwern.net/ )
Framedragger: aha, okay
asciilifeform: at one point i was interested in tor, and ran several nodes, but strictly from the point of view of malware collection.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: right, cool. i guess if one runs a node they may as well collect some additional info.. i may still have a 'respected' node private key laying about, may be possible to collect those HSDir requests. (but i agree that it may not be very productive effort)
mircea_popescu: iirc even at the peak of the whole "anyone could have sent me fake ids with my picture on them because there exists this thing online called silkroad i'm not related to" pothead mania, less than hjalf the idiots used encryption at all, and a tiny fraction of traffic was actually encrypted coming from relatively few keys. as in hundreds rather than hudreds of thousands.
mircea_popescu: who knows, possibly shitter than average though.
mircea_popescu: speaking of tor & the rest of the retard community, ""Mariana's Web" does not exist. For anyone trying to be the "Jacques Cousteau of the Dark Web": There is no "going deeper". There are no "levels". Please stop asking how to get there."
mircea_popescu: via, of course, https://archive.is/iBLt9#selection-3245.0-3247.153
mircea_popescu: ahahaha man. THE DEEP WEB! such a comedy goldmine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbfSvjNisWY
Framedragger: "I had to be quick and stelth" probably apt description of deep web security
Framedragger: iirc there *was* a buncha keys on silk road v1. but, not ruling out key re-use / sybil identities.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i vaguely recall some data about how 1/3 of all encrypted comms on sr historically was from/to usg and its merry band of thieves under another name.
Framedragger: hahaha. well, fair enough, can't see why that couldn't have been the case. but if so, even more hilarious!
mircea_popescu: this guy is epic.
asciilifeform: chesterton was there first, in 'man who was thursday'
Framedragger learns of "red rooms"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that story was so fucking retarded...
mircea_popescu: what, the central council of anarchism and the conveniently-involved uninvolved poet ?
asciilifeform: no moar retarded than life
mircea_popescu: i guess ; at least for any definition of life that permits the continued existence of the reddit scum.
asciilifeform: 'the scum you will always have with you' or how did it go.
mircea_popescu: in other news, "i am vampyr and you can't be vladimir because it's too close to vampyr"
thestringpuller: "Burn burn burn down hot topic. Don't let it steal your soul...../ Burnin' down. / Hot topic." - In depeche mode mode
mircea_popescu: check out who had his sp history current :p
thestringpuller: That was my favorite SP episode for about 3-4 years.
thestringpuller: something about the kindergoth's hardcore attitude that is inspiring...
mircea_popescu: poor kids.
mircea_popescu: first they can't have halloween candy ; then they can't fight, or climb trees ; or be home alone ; or touch ; or etcetera. by now it's ... pretty much endless re-dos of carmen winstead.
pete_dushenski: PeterL: http://www.contravex.com/2016/10/13/needalittlejohnsoninmylife-adnotated/#comment-51135
pete_dushenski: yumm, replica watches
a111: Logged on 2016-10-14 16:57 mircea_popescu: speaking of tor & the rest of the retard community, ""Mariana's Web" does not exist. For anyone trying to be the "Jacques Cousteau of the Dark Web": There is no "going deeper". There are no "levels". Please stop asking how to get there."
trinque: pete_dushenski: people have been making Gary Johnson dick jokes for a while now
pete_dushenski: aha. much like the bern.
pete_dushenski: berning johnson anyone ? get that shit checked out.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, "i am vampyr and you can't be vladimir because it's too close to vampyr"<< LOL
mircea_popescu: for srs
mircea_popescu: names dude. the only reality allowed the lost.
pete_dushenski: !#s lael brainard
pete_dushenski: "Lael Brainard, the Federal Reserve governor overseeing new technology, says the decentralized method of record-keeping introduced by Bitcoin has the potential to transform multiple aspects of the financial system." << mkay glhf with that 'blockchain' bizniz
pete_dushenski: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/10/12/business/12BITCOIN2-web/12BITCOIN2-web-master768.jpg << cancerous looking ol hag
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/pxM0B << in other murders, an entire article on how 'latin america could cut its murder rate by 50 percent' and yet somehow neglects to mention 'be more argentine' anywhere.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-13 01:27 mircea_popescu: in other kickass smoothie news : seven almonds, a dab of purely dark chocolate and two cloves go in the coffee grinder ; then a banana, fresh brewed coffee, milk, ice and the ground dusts + some vanilla go in the blender.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-12#1555015 << wasn't this milo guy in the ben shapiro camp of mainstream alt-right ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-12 04:17 mats: "Milo: Why Islamic Preachers Prey On Gingers ... MILO explained why gingers are more likely to become Islamic extremists — because they’re ugly and unloved."
pete_dushenski had a cat named milo, probably the best of the 7 or 8 he ever had.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-12 12:10 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-12#1555023 << quebec !
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-12#1555085 << same as market in sexual assault, verbal abuse, chauvenism, and the rest of the made-up excuses for firing capable dudes in a power grab and replacing them with hags like lael.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-12 19:46 mircea_popescu: much to everyone's couldn't have predicted, there's no genuine MARKET in child porn etc.
mircea_popescu: how do these relate ?
mircea_popescu: there's an obvious incentive for someone to fuck his coworkers : they're there ; i have nfi what "verbal abuse" is, but in principle putting people in their place through means other than hitting them in the head is cheaper, so there's evidently a market ; chauvinism is like revolution or progress, anything to anyone and therefore uninteresting.
pete_dushenski: maybe they don't relate except as loosely applied tags or labels for individuals disliked by socialists. not knowing or caring what the words actually mean, libtards just conjure up accusations like 'child pornographer' or 'verbal abuser' when being dismissive.
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's evidently stuff like say peter scully's being produced. the notion that some sort of market drives this however is ridoinculous.
pete_dushenski: !#s peter scully
pete_dushenski: so not the scully from xfiles cuz that was a chick.
mircea_popescu: some dude, tall old total nut face, butchered an infant in a very sexual manner on tape, apparently tortured a bunch of others. had ran off from au to the philipines for some legal reason.
pete_dushenski: anyways, looks like a hot chocolate kind of day today. the snow started lightly last week but is coming down in earnest today. prolly 10cm on the way.
pete_dushenski: too bad there's not more logs to keep me warm. quieter around here without turbo-alf.
mircea_popescu: evidently teh enlightened policies of the centralised socialist state, from misrepresenting it as a market to whatever the fuck they do work splendidly : the worst on record dates from last year.
mircea_popescu: such success etc.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: believe or not, i am doing something useful
pete_dushenski: in other success, looks like there's increasing traction for the theory that the terracotta warriors were directly inspired by the greeks and may have even been overseen by greek sculptors, predating marco polo by a millennia in terms of contact between east and west.
mircea_popescu: i thought teh anabasis was the first foray.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: while useful conversations happen in channel, i have little doubt that shiva would be more productive if he weren't reading and reposting yarvin, bbc, el reg, or whatever 'sekoority' bloggers. it's really not hard for anyone to imagine.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: xenophon, rite. /me is actually working on this tome atm.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski tu quoque.
pete_dushenski: in degrees!
pete_dushenski wonders what planet he is living on where he is as useful to republic as alf
pete_dushenski: lol i have a badass life all things considered and need no cheering up, though i appreciate the thought. but i can be no more lenin nor laika than alf. i'm boyar, not barbarossa.
pete_dushenski: pleasant tune tho
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M90oFjSlx8 << the original words, without the englishism.
asciilifeform back to wurk
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/10/14/the-incremental-degrees-of-observance-on-yom-kippur/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The incremental degrees of observance on Yom Kippur.
trinque: what the hell is this "no brushing teeth" ?
mats: plaque is sacred
ben_vulpes: my node cracked 4gb res yesterday
ben_vulpes: > 4137
pete_dushenski: still over 70 connex ?
ben_vulpes: down to 47, actually
pete_dushenski: huh. mine's up to 73
asciilifeform: phf, ben_vulpes , et al : can any of you describe to me how /dev/random works on crapple's os ?
asciilifeform: and incidentally, this goes for everybody, i'm collecting dd if=/dev/random of=shitball.bin bs=1 count=8388608 && dieharder -a -g 201 -f shitball.bin && ent shitball.bin outputs from anyone who can be bothered
asciilifeform: as many types of box as can be had
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not offhand, no
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is suspiciously fast
asciilifeform: about same speed as /dev/urandom on my gentoo boxen, even.
thestringpuller: suspiciously fast?
thestringpuller: like libsecp256k1 or whatever crap those power rangers created
mod6: asciilifeform: what's the diff between -g 201 and '-g 200' mentioned in lastnight's link?
mod6: also, if you want, i can try to run the above command on this apple macbook pro i have access to; if you like.
mod6: version 3.31.1 ok?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger btw ever got around to fixing that thing which makes scriba go dysfunctional ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no. i know it's still there, and i know it's been a long time. it's in my plan. maybe even this weekend, if i can make time. i'll ping you. apologies for rapid slow-down of productivity with regards to #trilema :)
asciilifeform: mod6: 200 reads from stdin
Framedragger: oh and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551845 << thanks trinque! i'll maybe ping you. need to find time to sit down. behind on afk-stuff, but getting back on track (or so i hope)
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 18:34 trinque: Framedragger: I can help you fix that python error; ping me when available.
Framedragger: such anagram adlai
mircea_popescu: Framedragger only asked because earlier you were talking about doing more stuff lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Y not, I'll get started
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no fair enough, i mean that's the plan! and i wouldnt do that before doing this other more important stuff first. :)
mircea_popescu: in other flavour news, /me household proceeded to turn a dozen hard boiled eggs + five unboiled eggs into deviled eggs. the final production was evaluated at a shade under 3000 calories, of which i ingurgitated half in one sitting. i feel very pleasantly full ; and may turn into a boa.
Framedragger: sounds..energetically efficient? dat protein. also cholesterol? :)
mircea_popescu: im sure.
mircea_popescu: but i'm cutting it with cognac now, so should be ok.
mircea_popescu: if not, there's always paint thinner.
mod6: asciilifeform: still running; on rgb_lagged_sum test #19
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/brit-faces-extradition-for-trading-on-us-markets/ << Qntra - Brit Faces Extradition For Trading On US Markets
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/mps-definitive-dark-deep-etc-web-faq/ << Trilema - MP's Definitive Dark / Deep / Etc Web FAQ
mircea_popescu: in other revolutionary ideas the world's not ready for : http://www.horizontalhive.com/how-to-build/bee-bed-sleep-hive-plans.shtml
shinohai: how many bitcoin would it take to get danielpbarron to send the night in one
mircea_popescu: why him specifically ?
shinohai: he has faith power :D
shinohai: it's like snake handling, but with bees!
shinohai buys adspace on this page for epi-pens, profits
mod6: lol, "this isn't fucking tanning."
pete_dushenski: o hey former alberta premier from two terms ago can 'has accident' in style of total ceo. a memorable departure for an otherwise forgettable figure.
pete_dushenski: king of siam also took a final bow today
mod6: asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ay6hn/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ty mod6
mod6: check out the last line of the test. "command not found: ent", however, i copied the command exactly from your original:
mod6: (20:06) <+asciilifeform> and incidentally, this goes for everybody, i'm collecting dd if=/dev/random of=shitball.bin bs=1 count=8388608 && dieharder -a -g 201 -f shitball.bin && ent shitball.bin outputs from anyone who can be bothered
asciilifeform: mod6: you might not have the proggy
asciilifeform: get it via macports or build from src
mod6: yah, i just noticed -- and installed it via brew
mod6: i'll re-run the thing.
mod6: give it another hour figure, sorry :/
jhvh1: 12th of Tishrei, 5777
mod6: the future sucks.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: well played
pete_dushenski: what's old is new
ben_vulpes: doesn't count from bitcoinday?
pete_dushenski: sounds like verbal abuse to me
BingoBoingo: OMG shinohai I was writing the qntra!!!
shinohai: sorry >.>
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/covert-cia-plan-makes-evening-news/ << Qntra - "Covert" CIA Plan Makes Evening News
pete_dushenski: bbl. to dinner and dieharder fiddling.
mod6: ok here we go
mod6: asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: ty mod6
mircea_popescu: oo we have alt calendar ?
jhvh1: 12th of Tishrei, 5777
asciilifeform: talmudic system
asciilifeform: tishrei - 1st mo.
mircea_popescu: ah right you are. i was for some reason thinking of the byzantine style
mircea_popescu: but that's more like 7.7k
shinohai: do we need a byzantine calender?
mircea_popescu: well... not exactly need. but apparently we have fun subverting the socialist superstate notions of political time.
shinohai: its a tome free for all! stamp in the babel of choice
shinohai: !!u th3nolo
shinohai: !!up th3nolo
deedbot: th3nolo voiced for 30 minutes.
th3nolo: hehe recover access to my account
mircea_popescu: fun fact : 1492 (expulsion of jews from spain and discovery of america) was year 7000 ; drove a buncha people wild.
mircea_popescu: shinohai did you get an ygood stuff from those slamms then ?
mircea_popescu: smalls lol
shinohai: stones such as being purveyed by hanbot
th3nolo: few years later.. they come to Venezuela.. name because they think Venezuela looks like Venecia but small venecia
shinohai: other items to numerous to list
shinohai: El Relámpago del Catatumbo lo mando!
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-14#1555447 << enough to cover whatever expenses it takes to get one to me; i don't mind bees.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-14 21:55 shinohai: how many bitcoin would it take to get danielpbarron to send the night in one
shinohai: mpex. powered by bees (tm)
th3nolo: shinohai el Relampago del Catatumbo is one of the best thing of this country!
shinohai: Relampago por presidente
danielpbarron: in other pay a christian to sleep with dangerous things news, http://www.horizontalhive.com/honey-bee-images/bee-bed-sleep-apitherapy.jpg
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's prolly be more practical to go to them ; bees don't move so well.
mircea_popescu: lol they even got a tall young chick to go towel-naked in their thing ? someone's seriously dedicated to these stilted coffins.
shinohai: so your god has power to protect hot girls from bees
mircea_popescu: shinohai hey, a micropenis is a micropenis, whether flying or just buzzed.
mircea_popescu: in other early christian obscura : the 6th bishop of antioch (teofil, dead by 200) wrote a book "To Autolickus".
shinohai: !~google "To Autolickus"
jhvh1: shinohai: CHURCH FATHERS: To Autolycus , Book I (Theophilus of Antioch): <http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02041.htm>; CHURCH FATHERS: To Autolycus , Book II (Theophilus of Antioch): <http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02042.htm>; CHURCH FATHERS: To Autolycus (Theophilus of Antioch): <http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0204.htm>
mircea_popescu: overheard in my room : "ehm... that must've been a happy man..."
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes, phf, asciilifeform etc : casting call for man who can host and sign xcode 4.2 plzthx
mircea_popescu: ugh what ?
mats: i have five boxes of varying models i can test, but will need to wait til sunday evening
pete_dushenski: mats: all good. looks like the apple 'developer' page hosts all the old ones after all. surprising but true.
thestringpuller: Didn't realize how easy it is to connect to IRC via sockets. Far simpler than HTTP by a long shot...
thestringpuller: God I hate you HTTP, but not as much as SOAP
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's a mac thing needed to run alf's dieharder tests.
jhvh1: you have no idea @ thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: it's an ide irrc.
pete_dushenski: seems like brew requires xcode, which is required by git, which is required by dieharder
thestringpuller: you can get build essentials on mac without xcode
thestringpuller: altho xcode is "easiest" way to get "gcc"
thestringpuller: but if you get build essentials without xcode you can compile git
BingoBoingo: !~google degrowth
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Degrowth - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrowth>; Degrowth - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrowth>; Life in a ' degrowth ' economy, and why you might actually enjoy it: <http://theconversation.com/life-in-a-degrowth-economy-and-why-you-might-actually-enjoy-it-32224>
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol at usg online redo of tikrit offensive. lemme guess, they got a bunch of merceniaries
BingoBoingo: Who knows anymoar
mats: on the subject of iraq, seems the attack on mosul is imminent
BingoBoingo: Maybe they got balloons?
mats: nao taking bets for how many hours it'll take for iraqi forces to abandon arms and flee
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i don't archive xcodes
ben_vulpes: in the sense of not deleting old ones
pete_dushenski: turns out there was no need anyways. aapl mysteriously hosts them. quite despite expectations to the contrary.
ben_vulpes: macs belong to apple, customer just gets to depreciate them while running xcode or chrome
mircea_popescu: mats 8 to 12.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: yeah, surprising
ben_vulpes: "gotta catch 'em all"
mircea_popescu: (guess based on the observation that much as was the case in medieval warfare (among people disinclined to fight, such as italians), the arabs arrived at a courtier's agreement as to what constitutes "sufficient honorable defense".)