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ben_vulpes: nice, i was waiting for that one
BingoBoingo: I was honestly thinking about a pass on it until I saw how many elder lizards were involved
ben_vulpes: plus, the suicide!
BingoBoingo: There was a suicide?
BingoBoingo: For those who aren't familiar Frist was the "hero" of the US Capital shooting where he saved the shooter, but not the other people who were shot.
asciilifeform: << wake me up when any of the bluebloods become poor from this and start working for a living.
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 04:01:37; BingoBoingo: I was honestly thinking about a pass on it until I saw how many elder lizards were involved
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00050936 = 3.6419 BTC [+]
phf: pretty sure ascii will be going "wake me up when they find hitler" as tmsr~ is hoisting the flag on Reichstag
funkenstein_: ascii i've been meaning to ask you, I always thought of england as mordor... with orthanc in DC... am I missing something?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform will prolly enjoy that article btw :D
mircea_popescu: "Over the past 12 years, anesthesiologist Scott Reuben revolutionized the way physicians provide pain relief to patients undergoing orthopedic surgery for everything from torn ligaments to worn-out hips. Now, the profession is in shambles after an investigation revealed that at least 21 of Reuben's papers were pure fiction, and that the pain drugs he touted in them may have slowed postoperative healing."
assbot: A Medical Madoff: Anesthesiologist Faked Data in 21 Studies - Scientific American ... ( )
mircea_popescu: to go with that nice "we caught one forensic lab tech out of mass faking 1000s of reports out of the 1000s of labs that fake forensic reports" story a year back
PeterL: Clearly the current research funding model is borked, is there a more reasonable approach favored by La Serenisima?
mircea_popescu: how about spend some public money on random items and only allow arbitrarily selected scientist people to touch them, for arbitrary intervals, arbitrarily ?
mircea_popescu: sort-of like soviet science worked.
mircea_popescu: but it is very important to not provide any sort of mechanism for any of this to be sorted out.
mircea_popescu: maybe something like the nielsen ratings. have a minister of science which visits strip clubs, shows the girls pictures of scientists and research facilities and asks them to mix and match.
mircea_popescu: also shoot some of them, now and again, i guess.
mircea_popescu: well, it was an idea anyway.
mircea_popescu: << bwhahaha o lordy. ballas wants a honor society at home! of all the things...
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: How To Destroy A Marriage ... ( )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98500 @ 0.00051012 = 50.2468 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20077 @ 0.00050665 = 10.172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34021 @ 0.00050665 = 17.2367 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34243 @ 0.00051634 = 17.681 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00052126 = 4.6913 BTC [+]
Duffer1: too much sauce tonight?
Duffer1: vexs name change spam
mircea_popescu: i dunno who has this much patience to be pointless yet present. you'd imagine every drunk eventually wanders an apreciable distance away from any arbitrary pole. but whatevs.
Duffer1: is that 24 hours or is that perma?
mircea_popescu: would have been permanent the last time but ppls bitched for reasons i dun fully grasp.
Duffer1: ah didn't realize there was a last time
Duffer1: he's pretty active in PMs, not usually the chan though
mircea_popescu: maybe half year ago ?
mircea_popescu: thankfully not with me.
Duffer1: he's good people you should keep him around
mircea_popescu: yeah ? what's he do ?
Duffer1: in the chan? absolutely no idea
mircea_popescu: so then.
Duffer1: i'm not saying you're wrong, just that I like him around
mircea_popescu: not like you can't message or w/e.
mircea_popescu: neways, im off to bed. cheerios.
Duffer1: later man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00050367 = 9.3179 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24244 @ 0.00050367 = 12.211 BTC [-]
deedbot-: accepted: 1
davout: deedbot-: help
davout: trinque: is "curl | shasum -a 256" supposed to work to get a single deed's address private key?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00050367 = 1.8132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5666 @ 0.00050738 = 2.8748 BTC [+]
assbot: Eternity Wall ... ( )
shinohai: mornin wyrdmantis , #b-a at large
wyrdmantis: good morning! i'm at school :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00050367 = 5.3893 BTC [-]
shinohai: School? What ya in school for m8?
shinohai: Typical Monday for me, perusing boards to see if anyone needs any horribly-written Spanish articles translated into English.
shinohai: That usually means I say "fuck it" by 1 pm and spend the afternoon drinking wine.
wyrdmantis: yeah, it's not a real, school, it's a course... like a master. Maybe you don't know that i'm in italy... we have courses for everything
shinohai: One of my best friends is from Italy, but he lives in Venezuela now.
wyrdmantis: lucky him :)
wyrdmantis: but your right, school is almost useless
wyrdmantis: but parents force you to go...
shinohai: Mine certainly didn't force me to go. My grandparents pushed me more than my parents did.
wyrdmantis: And did you listen to him?
shinohai: If I take classes now, I do the most ridiculous things. Took a sommeliers course last year because I wanted to appreciate wine more.
shinohai: There weren't any "wine appreciation classes" that I could find, but hey sommeliers know wine.
wyrdmantis: that's cool, come in italy if you want to know wine ;)
wyrdmantis: my brother's wife works with prosecco producers
punkman: shinohai: how long was the sommelier course?
shinohai: punkman 3 nights a week over 4 months
shinohai: Now i know exactly when to serve the Night Train and what dishes Mogen David pairs well with.
punkman: shinohai: not bad, did it have the WSET-approved stamp too?
shinohai: I wish, but it was just a local course I think. Restaurants are all over here, so eventually I could probably find one.
shinohai: heh WSET has a online course !!!
punkman: I was making a list of wine-related schools/courses last week, hence the curiosity
punkman: there was a bunch of WSET-approved schools with online courses
punkman: although I don't see how online makes sense
shinohai: Me neither. The experience is a physical one, in that it does require taste, smell, etc.
assbot: Margaret Atwood on our real-life dystopia: “What really worries me is creeping dictatorship” - ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00050367 = 5.3893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00050367 = 7.3788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91500 @ 0.00050701 = 46.3914 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27306 @ 0.00050318 = 13.7398 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52794 @ 0.00050079 = 26.4387 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9004 @ 0.00050496 = 4.5467 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> punkman 3 nights a week over 4 months << sounds like a great way to meet coughars huh.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> although I don't see how online makes sense << i expect they expect you to amazon the bottles.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Margaret Atwood on our real-life dystopia: “What really worries me is creeping dictatorship” << fuck her with a pineapple-shaped broomstick.
mircea_popescu: you'll get dictatorship AND YOU WILL LOVE IT.
mircea_popescu: the only thing at your option is to pick dictators. act now, bleed less later.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00050539 = 12.5337 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: davout | trinque: is "curl | shasum -a 256" supposed to work to get a single deed's address private key? << yep that should work. in checking over the addresses, it looks like someone has already snagged some of the dust to verify
mircea_popescu: cool huh.
davout: trinque: i get ba2345aaae3ba157d8eac8140f5a7af61ffbf2dcf153f788b10d52e52720d209 for this particular one
davout: and if i use some random tool to convert that to a bitcoin address i get 1E49paWydo9FcnYrBHTDDjfvkWC9h8QsWX
davout: i'm interested in mirroring the whole deedbot repo
davout: so i tried to manually verify a random one
wyrdmantis: noob question: how deedbot talk with blockchain? who send the transaction?
davout: so i find 1E49paWydo9FcnYrBHTDDjfvkWC9h8QsWX on both and locally, am i hashing it correctly? because according to deedbot it should be 1PNuo5NYHJdmwwPYnBhABW7oie9Y2yKsa9
davout: treating the hash as compressed private key yields another address but still not the one i was expecting
punkman: davout: sha256 of bundle is the secret exponent
davout: punkman: do you manage to independently verify the bundle of the #379347 block?
davout: bbl
trinque: I'll get to this in just a bit
trinque: davout: here's some python source that works
assbot: dpaste: 0XDCSN0 ... ( )
trinque: curl deedurl | python # will yield what's on
jurov: sigh..kakobrekla seems b-a wiki banned me again
jurov: (just wanted to add above)
punkman: davout, curl -s | sha256sum -> 2cdc25c99e4d408b359a4bc168911ad5b51a1a885b09e63c7e951499b29d59b5 which indeed gives me the correct address 18dsNRqPSDeALgGLHxv7Fj4RWWKMHBtHzX
davout: punkman: what about the one i mentioned, specifically
davout: trinque: dun werk
kakobrekla: jurov try now
punkman: davout: you need the whole bundle, can't verify individual deeds
davout: trinque: curl | python >>> 1E49paWydo9FcnYrBHTDDjfvkWC9h8QsWX
davout: there's only one deed in that bundle
davout: am i missing something obvious here ?
punkman: yes, there are 2 deeds in that one
davout: in block #379347 ?
punkman: mhmm
davout: that's what i thought :D
jurov: kakobrekla: ty, i hope you relaxed it a bit
kakobrekla: jurov i added your ip to 'pls not to ban these folks' list
jurov: trinque there's supposedly a faq for deedbot, where?
trinque: davout: that is a url for a particular deed
trinque: the bundle is to the left
davout: trinque: i tried with that too
davout: srsly, just try it
trinque: so one's broken?
punkman: davout: maybe you are generating compressed pubkeys
trinque: 18dsNRqPSDeALgGLHxv7Fj4RWWKMHBtHzX
davout: punkman: i looked at both, and trinque's script is also reporting a different address than the one i see on the deedbot page
trinque: is not
trinque: ah wrong one derp.
trinque: no that one works for me
trinque: davout: you are using the python I provided?
davout: trinque: i am
davout: $ curl -s | python
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( )
davout: >>> 177pJRcS7ZScLPaPB9FfDWotEQddhPkvc9
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.86631506 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 -
davout: ah hang on
trinque: 1PNuo5NYHJdmwwPYnBhABW7oie9Y2yKsa9
davout: aah, it works now
trinque: side note of yey people are trying to verify the thing, which is very important.
trinque: davout: what was the issue?
davout: i was hashing "404 page not found" basically
trinque: heh
davout: i assumed without thinking that removing the "-1" at the end of the deed URL would yield the bundle
trinque: oh I overlooked that entirely as well
davout: and the 404 wasn't obvious using curl
assbot: irc_bots:deedbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( )
kakobrekla: (if you are not banned)
jurov: kek
pete_dushenski: jurov: please to distribute s.mpoe dividends :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00049976 = 14.1682 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: lulz of the day : 'hanson brothers' are still touring.
trinque: jurov: looks good
mircea_popescu: sweet deedbot stuff
assbot: Hanson - MMMBop - YouTube ... ( )
mircea_popescu: i bet you they get a better crowd than gavin ever did
pete_dushenski: usgavin wouldn't suffer any from hosting fillies in mehico for a private concert, meet + greet (+bang) like these kids
assbot: Homan Square revealed: how Chicago police 'disappeared' 7,000 people | US news | The Guardian ... ( )
pete_dushenski: "Police took a substantial amount of marijuana and what Jose said was about $10,000 in cash. The arrest report listed the cash at $4,670. Jose said he never got his money back."
pete_dushenski: "Often,” Futterman continued, “prisoners aren’t entered into the central booking system until they’re being processed – which doesn’t occur at Homan Square. They’re supposed to begin that processing right away, under CPD procedures, and at Homan Square the reality is, that isn’t happening or is happening sporadically and inconsistently, which leads to the whole find-your-client game.”"
deedbot-: [Trilema] Facebook sends traffic!!11eleven -
pete_dushenski: !up GoMaD
mircea_popescu: the question is, why don't the prisoners kill some cops ?
mircea_popescu: you're held at a secret location ? great, kill some guys. what are they gonna do now, expect the rules they were off to protect them ?
mircea_popescu: "it never happened, dude"
mircea_popescu: "the rules" are there to protect the fucking cops, wtf.
mike_c: omg, trilema footnotes now have footnotes, in *even smaller* font.
mircea_popescu: win huh ?
mike_c: this will continue until footnotes become the size of 1 atom, and then the black hole sucks earth
mircea_popescu: i apologize.
mike_c: :) you're as old as me, how the hell do you read these things?
mircea_popescu: lol. chuka no reader
mircea_popescu: chuka writer.
mike_c: did romanian girls used to fill out all those stupid personality quizes too? and you know what a texas dip is. sometimes I think you gain knowlege by some odd vampiric process.
mircea_popescu: OFCOURSE i know
mircea_popescu: and you are exactly right : when i get a new girl in my clutches for the first week or two i suck her brain out through her earlobes.
mike_c: hehe
mircea_popescu: rizi tu rizi, harap alb, da' nu-i risul tau.
thestringpuller: Oooh. Qntra had a birthday recently.
jurov: pete_dushenski: on it, hit another glitch
pete_dushenski: cheers !
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: one chapter closed, and another opened.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
assbot: Teen stoner says he hacked CIA director’s AOL account | New York Post ... ( )
mircea_popescu: aol ? srsly ?
mircea_popescu: this is what we got for the fucking september. CIA "directors".
mircea_popescu: how do you like the web now, bitches.
ascii_field: so far no proof, snore.
pete_dushenski: >> "When it comes to cash, Mr. Schneider said, “Clients have been put on warning."
assbot: Big Banks to America’s Firms: We Don’t Want Your Cash - WSJ ... ( )
pete_dushenski: same at retail level. local bank : "oh we only carry $2`500 cash so that's your max withdrawal per day"
pete_dushenski: also, atm reduced from $1k max per day to motherfucking "suggested max" of $800.
pete_dushenski: dear fiatists : start stocking up cash now. not later. now.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the problem with cash is that if the sovereign withdraws support you're left with pretty paper
mircea_popescu: and it would seem the usg is going towards withdrawing support.
mircea_popescu: you can't actually pay your taxes in cash. so cash is not actually legal tender. so why bother ?
mircea_popescu: store tide.
ascii_field: ' The tweet had disappeared from view from US, in Appelbaum's feed. From these posts,
ascii_field: and my own work, it appears the issue was not limited to only one ISP (it affected both CenturyLink
ascii_field: and Verizon), to one browser (Firefox, Chrome, IE and Opera were tried), one operating system (it
ascii_field: affected both Windows and Android), or one login (at least 3 different users affected, I was also
ascii_field: unaffected whilst logged in, but still using tor). It was also not a case of tor vs non-tor (US tor exits
ascii_field: affected, as were my regular home IP addresses). Apparent location of the user's IP address seemed to
ascii_field: be the main factor. Germans could see it the post, Americans couldn't.'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sure you can pay taxes in cash, no ? show up to bank teller with cash and 'pay bill' assuming you have account there
mircea_popescu: this is not what "pay" means.
ascii_field: not in usa
pete_dushenski has not tried this.
kakobrekla: i imagine you can deposit and pay
mircea_popescu: but that's not paying.
mircea_popescu: no, irs has cash payment office, you go there and give them cash. that's "cash is accepted as tax payment".
ascii_field: so ~that~ must be where all the poor idiots with suitcases of benjies were going
mircea_popescu: like you know, when i buy a pair of shoes in cash, i go into the shoe shop, fish out some bills.
ascii_field: before being picked up by robb^H^H^H^Hpolicew
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but tax collector doesn't have own branch office
mircea_popescu: as it is right now, cash and tide are equally money (ie, not accepted as tax payment), but one's useful and the other's paper.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski so ?
mircea_popescu: it's really very simple : either item X can be used to pay taxes or it can not.
pete_dushenski: so what, i fly to ottawa and drop off suitcase of bills ?
mircea_popescu: can you ?
pete_dushenski: good question...
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "i could read the code but i'm lazy" and "you can't read the code" also.
mircea_popescu: and no, "nobody bothers anyway" is not a reason.
kakobrekla: sounds more like a lottery thing - no office but you can buy a ticket at any gas station
mircea_popescu: for cash. can you ?
mircea_popescu: go to gas station, pay your taxes ?
kakobrekla: bank instead gas station this time
kakobrekla: can you get lottery ticket with tide at the gas station?
mircea_popescu: technically yes, if you are returning the tide.
kakobrekla: maybe you can. i cant.
mircea_popescu has bought utp cable with nat router here.
kakobrekla: must ba a long one.
mircea_popescu: 50m + 60 terminators.
kakobrekla: howd you get the nat router?
kakobrekla: goats?
mircea_popescu: i bought it first. then it didn't work, so i returned it. lol.
mircea_popescu: guy actually offered cash back, too.
mircea_popescu: and didn't even ask for the receipt. which is good, as he hadn't given me one.
mircea_popescu: 20yo chicks mostly go to the gym to take sweatpants selfies for facebook, don't they.
ascii_field: in other lulz,
assbot: Federal regulators to require registration of recreational drones - The Washington Post ... ( )
thestringpuller: ^^^ dafuq?!?
mircea_popescu: and master key ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, btw, derp in government wants a special pass for burning man!!"
ascii_field: naturally master key
ascii_field: as in cn.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21144 @ 0.00050206 = 10.6156 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nothing naturally about it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that homan square thing sounds like an amateur-run ransom operation.
mircea_popescu: the serbs did a lot better during the war. do muricans suck at EVERYTHING they do ? or just the things that one can hear about ?
mircea_popescu: i guess they must be great daydreamers, huh.
assbot: The art of dry snitching ... ( )
pete_dushenski: lol. crafty.
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field
pete_dushenski: " Al, I didn’t know Betty had any relatives in town. I saw her with what must have been her nephew down at the bar. They look like they have a very close relationship."
mircea_popescu: it's so putridly midwestern tho.
punkman: passive-aggresive snitching might have been a better name for it
mircea_popescu: well, teens and ghetto niggers. whadda ya want. this passes for crafty.
punkman: is there a single good example of the accidental-snitch in there?
mircea_popescu: imo the best common one is, husband keeps insistinting to take wife to strip club, she eventually relents, dumbass takes her to familiar ground, woman notices.
mircea_popescu: you know the hungarian parrot joke ?
ascii_field: << for all we know, they caught a houdini who pulled a wakizashi out of his arse and did kill a cop..
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 16:35:18; mircea_popescu: the question is, why don't the prisoners kill some cops ?
ascii_field: (mega-seekrit: most prisoners are not houdini)
mircea_popescu: are we talking of the same obese cops ? the same sloppy idiots who can't get their own paper work in order 50% of the time so pretty much everything that goes to a judge gets thrown out ?
mircea_popescu: what houdini yo. it's a job for a sixteen year old./
assbot: FOIPA adventures ... ( )
assbot: FOIPA adventures ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27326 @ 0.0004958 = 13.5482 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: coderman is pressuring the right spots, but with so far dismal results.
mircea_popescu: MOSTLY because the derps don't know what they should be "upvoting". obviously the guardian's not gonna be talking about this.
mircea_popescu: unless to do one of their bullshit burial pieces, of course.
ascii_field: which 'this' ?
mircea_popescu: the correct reaction to nsa is to foia the shit out of it.
mircea_popescu: for as long as it's not receiving in excess of 1 bn requests a year, the populace's failing at its chosen game
ascii_field: foia is a palliative circus which exists at usg's pleasure.
mircea_popescu: which is WHY i say "kill the cop". you wanna be all civilised and shit, better than a 16 yo ghetto rat, then you foia the shit out of the nsa, to the point of driving it out of existence.
ascii_field: if it becomes -ev it will go away.
mircea_popescu: if not, you kill the cops.
mircea_popescu: in neither case do you go on the alf pipe "mechanisms don't exist".
mircea_popescu: so let it go away.
mircea_popescu: wars are won by damage not by dreaming.
mircea_popescu: NOTHING exists at usg's pleasure. not one thing.
mircea_popescu: time to get that in skull. firmly embedded.
mircea_popescu: at the very least 2x as firmly embedded as the current nail.
ascii_field: let's ask chaka zulu about 'wars are won by damage!'
mircea_popescu: let's not ask anything and do.
mircea_popescu: "Since it is unlikely we will be able to provide a complete response
mircea_popescu: within the 20 working days stipulated by the Act, you have the right to
mircea_popescu: consider this a denial and may appeal on this basis to the NRO Appeal Review
mircea_popescu: Panel, 14675 Lee Road, Chantilly, VA 20151-1715 after the initial 20 working
mircea_popescu: day period has elapsed. It would seem more reasonable, however, to allow us
mircea_popescu: sufficient time to continue processing your request and respond as soon as
mircea_popescu: we can. Unless we hear from you otherwise, we will assume that you agree
mircea_popescu: and will continue processing your FOIA request on this basis. You will have
mircea_popescu: the right to appeal any denial of records after you receive a final response
mircea_popescu: to your request."
shinohai: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: " Based upon the information provided, you have been placed in the "other" category of requesters, which means you are responsible for the cost of search time exceeding two hours ($44.00/hour) and reproduction fees ($.15 per page) exceeding 100 pages. We will notify you if it appears that we will meet or exceed our $25.00 minimum billing threshold in processing your request." <<< where's the "blockchain technologee"
mircea_popescu: to exploit that ?
shinohai: Maybe Ethereum has a solution.
mircea_popescu: yeah smart foia contracts ftw
pete_dushenski: from canada revenue agency website : "Do not mail us cash or include it with your return."
pete_dushenski: says nothing about "don't fly to our nearest office and drop off suitcase"
shinohai: Mail them the fee all in Canadian pennies pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: obsoleted currency ftw
ascii_field: pay in reichsmarks.
pete_dushenski: "A payment in foreign funds will be accepted. However, the exchange rate for converting the payment to Canadian dollars is determined by the financial institution at the time it processes your payment." <<
mircea_popescu: << guy has a whole tumblr dedicated to anime he ~comissioned~
assbot: My anime spanking commissions ... ( )
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski that settles it : only "financial institution" dollars accepted, aka e-dollars. your cash is worthless.
shinohai: Wow, I should have never moved out of Mom's house then I could afford to commission a buttload of spanking art.
assbot: GCHQ can and will spy on politicos, rules tribunal • The Register ... ( )
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: looks like it eh
ascii_field: in other lulz,
ascii_field: 'A perfect example of the perils faced by researchers was provided in a separate talk at Virus Bulletin by Costin Raiu, director of Kaspersky Lab’s Global Research and Analysis Team. Raiu revealed that when he was involved in the analysis of Stuxnet a few years ago, someone broke into his house and left a rubber cube with the message “take a break” written on it.'
assbot: Long-Term Strategy Needed When Analyzing APTs: Researcher | SecurityWeek.Com ... ( )
mircea_popescu: is this entire "apt" thing the hangout repackaging of raiu's earlier psychosis ?
mircea_popescu: (and no, the "apts don't exist" "apts exist" debate is not meaningful. some things exist, unrelatedly to the brand and independent of it. the brand however exists for the reason brands exist.)
ascii_field: nah, it's a seek000rity-industry catchword
mircea_popescu: yeah but recently it found a lot of mass market currency
ascii_field: ever since the original stuxnet paper.
ascii_field: originally had a meaning: shops with $maxint funding and complete vertical integration for virii production (pipeline of 0day mining, proof of concept, weaponization, deployment) etc.
mircea_popescu: not what it means now.
mircea_popescu: now it means "magical undefeatable foreign body - like that thing ruiu had that nobody else could find".
mircea_popescu: and it matches exactly the psychological profile of webtards / "dudes too dumb to sling dope". "oh, there's nothing we could have done anyway, best go back to starbux"\
mircea_popescu: "everybody knows that everything exists at the pleasure of usg hurr durr" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
pete_dushenski: "If your device is more than five years old, your system may need an upgrade. Over the next two years, the computing industry will eliminate certain security protocols that are more than 10 years old. The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) regularly updates its secure online services to ensure they feature the highest security standard, which is Transport Layer Security (TLS) 1.2." << hah
pete_dushenski: just flitted through the canadian tax code, nothing in there about receiver general not accepting cash, nor anything on cra website about 'we don't ACCEPT cash' just 'don't send cash, send cheque'
pete_dushenski: ima talk to my accountant and see. if he sees no reason to object, ima self-experiment
mircea_popescu: should yield a blog article at least.
mircea_popescu: heck, maybe you become more famous than nubbins
pete_dushenski: quite so. like my current attempts to have 'madcatz' cough up checksums/signatures for their software.
pete_dushenski: so far : "we answer almost all tickets in 1 day" and it's been 4...
pete_dushenski: o ya, i think it's federal election day today
mircea_popescu: !up Xplosionist
Xplosionist: Thank you.
Xplosionist: I have a question about a bitbet funding issue.
Xplosionist: I proposed a bet last week, but I think my funding of the bet was delayed too long, and the bet proposal was eventually rejected.
Xplosionist: But, AFAICT, I'm still out the 0.5 BTC I sent.
shinohai: <<< "The Sheeple and Bitcoin" LULZ
assbot: The Sheeple & Bitcoin : Bitcoin ... ( )
Xplosionist: Could anyone help?
mircea_popescu: anything concrete ? a link ? something ?
mircea_popescu: "too long", what's that.
mircea_popescu: why not "i sent so and so on this date included in this block here's the txn and etc
Xplosionist: Apologies, making the best. The proposal was the Bernie Sanders 2016.
Xplosionist: Transaction that attempt to fund it was 3c0682f82f9cb446adc53d585e0a986bdfac3aa9325c6b4544413ba82057ddaf which appears to have been successful
Xplosionist: ( link upcoming, darned internet slowness)
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 3c0682f82f9cb446adc53d585e0a986bdfac3aa9325c6b4544413ba82057ddaf ... ( )
kakobrekla: twas rejected before deposit confirmed
Xplosionist: K. Thanks. I saw a "conflicted" report in my client, but wasn't 100% sure that meant what I hoped it did.
Xplosionist: Where do you see that on the page, for my education?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla is this a whole new case ?
Xplosionist: @kakobrekla, oh you mean the bet was rejected. Right. That I'd guessed.
Xplosionist: And, the other comment was about it being somewhat the opposite side of an existing bet.
Xplosionist: So, happy to not have the proposet bet exist now, I want to find out where my 0.5 BTC is.
kakobrekla: < 0conf says 0, but if you click on the 0, you get your .5
assbot: BitBet Propositions ... ( )
mircea_popescu: it works even when it fails!
kakobrekla: in short: mods came to the proposal before the 0conf did
kakobrekla: mods work too fast.
Xplosionist: What is "the 0conf" ?
kakobrekla: the 0 stands for 0 and the conf stands for confirmations
mircea_popescu: when you propose a bet, you can put some money on it to get it started
mircea_popescu: aka 0 conf
kakobrekla: Xplosionist you will get refunded .5 shortly.
Xplosionist: Right. I attempted to do that, but it was delayed too long.
mircea_popescu: but in general : pay a reasonable fee, this "slow tx" thing is bad business.
kakobrekla: did ya send from buttstamp or what?
Xplosionist: No, I sent from my bitcoin core client, but it wasn't caught up, and it didn't realize it would take that long to send it out.
mircea_popescu: how long was that long ?
Xplosionist: I don't honestly know. Hours, to be sure, but less than a day.
mircea_popescu: mods work too fast.
kakobrekla: i dont think the fees matter (yet). 0conf takes zero conf txes, meaning it just has to propagate, not be included in bc
mircea_popescu: a true. yet.
kakobrekla: so far bs txes seem to propagate just fine.
Xplosionist: my client says 10/13/15 12:50, and I think that's 00:00-4.
Xplosionist: the transaction looks like 07:31 (UTC?)
Xplosionist: Right. And, I'd expected my client to send it right away, just not to know about it's confirmation until it caught up.
Xplosionist: But, maybe the bitcoin core client doesn't work the way I thought it did.
Xplosionist: Oh, wait, you can't actually _send_ a transaction without being in-sync, can you?
mircea_popescu: yes you can
Xplosionist: Oh. Well, then to what i said before. I expected it would work.
shinohai: Don't even need core client to sign a tx and push it.
Xplosionist: shinohai: yeah, but core client is what I had/have, and what I typically use. Just habit.
shinohai: I don't have a "latest" copy of it. 0.11.0 crashed on me several times, not that I needed it anyway.
Xplosionist: i have 0.11.0, it's working okay for me on multiple macs. haven't tried it on other OSes.
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 35a2f37919bd44652ecf748c523ae6b1d300bec2a8c5962190710fed9dc23987 ... ( )
Xplosionist: thx, yeah, i see it in my core client to. It's in sync atm. :-)
Xplosionist: thanks much all. And, for better and worse, I'll make sure my client is in sync before trying to propose a bet in the future.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00049271 = 5.5184 BTC [-] {3}
diametric: 'afternoon Xplosionist
jurov: !up SlipperyKitty
mircea_popescu: is slippery good ?
SlipperyKitty: of course
kakobrekla: <Xplosionist> Oh, wait, you can't actually _send_ a transaction without being in-sync, can you? < not sure if those are actually being broadcast before it syncs
kakobrekla: i have some vague memory telling me this was the case at some point
diametric: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up Xplosionist
Xplosionist: heh. thx. afternoon, diametric. howdy asciilifeform
ascii_field: hi Xplosionist
diametric: oh I didn't realize he wasn't voiced when I said hello.
diametric: would explain why he didn't reply hehe
Xplosionist: i was when you _said_ hello. just not when I tried to reply.
kakobrekla: so much overhead.
ascii_field: how's life in your corner of the world, Xplosionist ?
Xplosionist: (and was away from desk too)
Xplosionist: Oh, v busy, but okay.
Xplosionist: was meaning to ping diametric about stuff today anyway. been a long time since we've chatted.
ascii_field: Xplosionist: your luck day then! there he is.
diametric: so new cardano bet. i'm tempted
mircea_popescu: !up analmaster
ascii_field: analmaster !
mircea_popescu: is that a good thing ?
assbot: hey babe
analmaster: good day gentlemen
ascii_field: analmaster is sitting in the room with me l0l
mircea_popescu: no wonder you're breathing heavy eh :D
analmaster: tis true, im a slave.
diametric: oh look its analmaster
diametric: is he here to share tips and techniques?
assbot: Parenting ... ( )
analmaster: well how does the saying go
analmaster: no means yes
analmaster: yes means anal?
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 17:09:05; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but tax collector doesn't have own branch office
analmaster: pete douchestski
mircea_popescu: he's in canada. their housing doesn't have its own housing there
mircea_popescu: it's all with dogs.
BingoBoingo: << When I was in Missouri I could have made tax payments at the liquor store down the street. Didn't do that, but could have.
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 17:12:07; mircea_popescu: go to gas station, pay your taxes ?
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: there are shithole shops everywhere that will cut a cheque to arbitrary address for 110% in benjies
ascii_field: this is != 'can pay tax in cash'.
BingoBoingo: Still beats the hell out of Western Union. Liquor store had all sorts of cash services, run by a few cool Persian fellows.
mircea_popescu: yeah but...
BingoBoingo: Prolly could have sent money internationally from there.
BingoBoingo: Like Bitcoin, but without a blockchain to keep everyone honest.
BingoBoingo: Also Chicago's Hoffman Square prison camp old News.
ascii_field: iirc this was 'news' 6 mo. ago.
BingoBoingo: Right, Guardian just let it get forgot, presenting again as "fresh"
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up Xplosionist
mircea_popescu: inamsuch as it's still ongoing, its still news.
ascii_field: sorta like president johnson's 'state of emergency.'
mircea_popescu: your hunger doesn't go away because "that's enough, i've been hungry for six hours now". on the fucking contrary.,
Xplosionist: Really? Like my debt will go away after 6 months if I just become used to it ?
mircea_popescu: actually, THAT is how that works.
mircea_popescu: 5 years after the last contact it's wiped.
ascii_field: except (in usa) when it isn't
ascii_field: (mortgage, 'student loan', tax. most of the stuff people actually owe $maxint for)
mircea_popescu: you can ignore all this as well.
mircea_popescu: they claim it doesn't go away. in practice, it does.
ascii_field: well, when you move to mozambique it goes away
ascii_field: but not otherwise
mircea_popescu: 5 years after contact is a good rule of thumb.
ascii_field: recently, american tax collectors started going after people for debts of their long-dead parents
mircea_popescu: jus don't answer the mail, it'll take care of itself.
mircea_popescu: they got hope and change going now after all.
ascii_field: aha, by being subtracted from your paycheque
mircea_popescu: what paycheque ?
ascii_field: (this is how adjudicated debts are collected in usa)
mircea_popescu: ssi is immune.
ascii_field: yes if you're mircea_popescu and live on sunlight, this is not about you.
mircea_popescu: the way debts work since the invention of the concept is you gotta have something.
Xplosionist: If you get a paycheque, that counts as something I guss.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the concept that you can't build muscle and lose weight at the same time ?
mircea_popescu: pick anabolic or catabolic. if you want a paycheck, why do you have debts ?
mircea_popescu: if you have debts, why the fuck are you getting a payckech.
mircea_popescu: get more debts.
ascii_field: usually the latter is contingent on the former
mircea_popescu: hahahaha
mircea_popescu: where, in the us ?
mircea_popescu: get outta here.
ascii_field: no plebe gets actual hard cash just for the asking
mircea_popescu: they mail 20yo kids cards now.
ascii_field: aha, so they can start the 40% interest chumpatron going early in life
mircea_popescu: sure. which yoiu don't pay anyway.
ascii_field: no pay, no credit line fattening
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this system is so beautifully modelled in eulora... you can either overcraft or undercraft
ascii_field: so what do you eat ?
mircea_popescu: but if you do either, gotta do it with ALL the elements. you cant mix above avg x with under average y, it'll hurt.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field policemen.
mircea_popescu: there's more cases of people who ate policemen than cases of people who starved in the us.
mircea_popescu: pick any year.
ascii_field recalls a famous case in su where one fella did exactly that
ascii_field: ate policemen!
ascii_field: he ran a kind of 'retreat', exclusive, posh, for high-level police types
ascii_field: eventually somebody noticed that they never came back.
ascii_field: they found a larder, sausages, hams
ascii_field: which he'd been not only eating, but feeding to his 'guests'
mircea_popescu: i heard the story also but always figured it for ethnofantasy
ascii_field: fwiw i have no solid proof that it took place.
ascii_field: may be a legend, from zeitgeist of the time, so to speak
mircea_popescu: matches the 80s.
Xplosionist: But the pork/policemen analogy is too fun.
ascii_field: solid 80s.
diametric: Surprisingly there aren't that many police deaths in the US per year.
mircea_popescu: not surprisingly.
diametric: well yeah.
mircea_popescu: for every 5mn gestapo anon reports there was a shocking 0 coups on hitler's lyf.
diametric: I should say, despite the claims of "most dangerous job"
Xplosionist: "most unpleasant job" might be as accurate.
Xplosionist: I mean, I'm very glad we have people that do it. Most of whom are actually nice and do a good job. But, wow, I would never want to deal with as much crap as you have to put up with fore that job.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11769 @ 0.00049993 = 5.8837 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: depends what you mean by "policeman". the legitimate job (beat cop, giving directions and taking drunks home) is gone. the paper pusher job is whatever, another social worker. the DEA agent / carl force IV thing is just a different jolly roger color scheme for the same thuggery.
mircea_popescu: the suits in washington have more to do with jpm and gs than all of this
mircea_popescu: and so on and so forth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11481 @ 0.00050698 = 5.8206 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.99950000 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 -
mircea_popescu: i've got the best fucking weather, it's incredible. constantly 16-18ish, nice breeze, beautiful sun...
ascii_field: '(Added 2015) Some of the documents that we previously received through FOIA suggested that all major manufacturers of color laser printers entered a secret agreement with governments to ensure that the output of those printers is forensically traceable. Although we still don't know if this is correct, or how subsequent generations of forensic tracking technologies might work, it is probably safest to assume that all
ascii_field: modern color laser printers do include some form of tracking information that associates documents with the printer's serial number. (If any manufacturer wishes to go on record with a statement to the contrary, we'll be happy to publish that here.)'
mircea_popescu: o hey, did ethereum just break through it's record low ?
ascii_field: << for aficionados of '23andme' and related chumpatrons
assbot: Cops are turning to privately held DNA databases for info to help with investigations ... ( )
mircea_popescu: the thing is open source right ?
mircea_popescu: you get the tool, plug it into your linux laptop and go.
ascii_field: wai wat?!
danielpbarron: << so far this tactic has worked for me, since I stopped filing a few years ago
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 19:53:28; mircea_popescu: jus don't answer the mail, it'll take care of itself.
ascii_field: you spit in a tube & post it.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up Xplosionist
ascii_field: the fact that your signing up for 23andMe or means that you and all of your current and future family members could become genetic criminal suspects is not something most users probably have in mind when trying to find out where their ancestors came from.'
ascii_field: nobody could've foreseen!111111!1 (tm)
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before a guy starts sending all the companies scam "copyright infringement" notices and invitations to pay $600 to make the embarassment go away, like those twerps trawling the noob torrent folk.
mircea_popescu: "you at some point had a copy of my dna - pay up!"
assbot: Beware, houseguests: Cheap home surveillance cameras are everywhere now | Fusion ... ( )
ascii_field: ^ summary: 'airbnb' etc. users install 'toiletcams'
mircea_popescu: gotta a) keep driving down the capital cost of pron ; b) acclimate the womenz to their nude future.
mircea_popescu: seems logic.
ascii_field: jp, i'm told, is 20 yrs ahead in this metric
ascii_field: to the point of uninstrumented women's toilets being a rarity in some places
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many 4th wave feminists fighting rape on campus and what other derpage realise that their daughters... well no. their nieces will live their life naked.
punkman: do the japs still censor their porn?
ascii_field: 'Surprisingly, Dropcam’s privacy policy doesn’t warn customers that the government could seize the cloud-based video from their cameras or tap into their live-streams, and doesn’t state under which circumstances the company would comply with such a request. (Update: And law enforcement has come calling with warrants.)' << ahahaha
ascii_field: use moar cloudz!!1
ascii_field: << lulzy. to me, at least, because afaik the phrase is lifted directly from
assbot: Loper OS » There is no “Cloud”: There are only Other People’s Hard Drives. ... ( )
ascii_field: (without attribution, naturally)
mircea_popescu: at this point needing a warning that the cloud is maintained by and for the nsa is like needing a warning that if you marry an american you'll be stuck with an ineffectual narcissist, or that if you save in dollars you'll end up worse than the manic collector with alzhimers and his piles of old newspapers, or all sorts of similarly obvious stuff.
mircea_popescu: "i'm going to build a successful company - venture capital got my back"
mircea_popescu: sure homie. go for it.
mircea_popescu: "i won't starve, i got a college education / 401k / my gold coins collection"
mircea_popescu: commenter on trilema has this to say :
assbot: Selling 1 Oz Gold Coin for $25 (when it's worth over $1,500) - YouTube ... ( )
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to see how well teh entire "i am hoarding gold" thing plays out.
mircea_popescu: hint : people don't accept one oz in trade for 25 bux.
ascii_field: perhaps now can believe the 'rentalstarter' thing !
ascii_field: people are rightfully suspicious of 'free lunch'
mircea_popescu: no, they're just poor AND stupid.
ascii_field: 'hundred people rejected genuine nigerian prince inheritance! nyooz at 11!'
mircea_popescu: there';s nothinfg rightful in not having $25 disposable to play, which is ALL this is about.
ascii_field: l0l who the everliving fuck doesn't have $ 25 ?
mircea_popescu: there's also nothing rightful in the unmitigated audacity of daring to not conform to the environment
mircea_popescu: ascii_field anyone on the street in the us.
mircea_popescu: about as poor as africa, really.
ascii_field: there is typically at least twice this in the pan of any respectable panhandler even here in the suburbs.
mircea_popescu: not his.
mircea_popescu: it's mcdonadls' or whoevers.
ascii_field: possibly.
mircea_popescu: it's not, "money, i could do anything with". it's "money, i'll buy a toke with"
mircea_popescu: thus, no. not his.
ascii_field: cannot forgo a toke ?
mircea_popescu: one could.
mircea_popescu: and that mythical one would have money.
ascii_field: reminds me of a product i suggested to a fella in meatspace - an iphone-shaped container that conveniently holds 800 usd
ascii_field: (that the owner did not give to crapple)
mircea_popescu: if i was younger and somehow the ipod thing actually put any drag on my mating, that's pretty much what i'd have done.
ascii_field: this thought was inspired by learning that telcos in usa suddenly abolished the 'contract subsidy' thing
mircea_popescu: "yeah baby, his daddy bought him an iphone ; i ordered this thing to hold 800 bucks. pick a cock to suck."
ascii_field: now when you walk in, you either pay the 800 or agree to the '35/mo forever' claptrap
mircea_popescu: note that 35 forever is actually less revenue than they made leasing old rotary phones.
ascii_field: about same.
mircea_popescu: well yes but the rotary phone is < 50 cents in qty.
ascii_field: but yes, my first thought was, 'and they laughed at lucent'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33839 @ 0.00050731 = 17.1669 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: - Woman paid thousands to rent rotary phone ... ( )
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i had the most ustardian experience in argentina yet. so i want planters. small shop down the street, mostly closed, someone's house. finally it's open, i pick the planters, they're 90 each. i say i want 5, they only have 3. i scratch my head and leave.
mircea_popescu: go to a different shop, a little further. advertisement on wall, "if you want this shop to survive, don't ask for a discount".
mircea_popescu: apparently im expected to give a shit because we're in california-palermo or something ?!
mircea_popescu: shitty service ; old confused woman reads off a tiny script on a lined paper thing, apparently the EXACT SAME planter is 283.
mircea_popescu: i ask her if she's stupid. she pretends to not know what i'm saying. i leave.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile that stupid shit is 30 cents each off the boat.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: Corded Phones | QLT Consumer Lease Services, Inc. ... ( )
ascii_field: *lease
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder what a world with ACTUAL 30% gross margins would look like.
mircea_popescu: you know, what it mostly was between the time of the lombards and the time of the spanyards.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of these latter : i wonder how many people realise that the us complaint with spanish administration in florida was that it's TOO LAX ? as in, not oppressing the land nearly enough ? which is why they invaded.
mircea_popescu: exactly the civil war dispute, a few decades prior.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, the very amusing situation where people (including derps with aspirations of culture and intelligence a la orwell) fell for the very obvious trick of pretending that the nazi/fascist police state stuff was not merely the germans/italians being TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED, ie, doing exactly what britain, the us, russia will do themselves later on, but somehow it were specific about them. sort-of like t
mircea_popescu: he chinese of the 70s trying to pretend the usians are bad BECAUSE of computers. as if "computerization" is a bad thing in and of itself, not merely a natural evolution in which thosew guys happened to have got the drop on our guys.
ascii_field: weizenbaum grasped this.
mircea_popescu: "o look, X discovered the tank before us. how evil is X of the tanks!!11".
ascii_field: (in his 'computing power and human reason')
mircea_popescu: might as well be in 7 grade, "o look, jane got tits! how ridiculous jane is!11"
ascii_field: or, if you'd rather go back in time, the situation with catholic church and gunpowder.
mircea_popescu: plenty of examplkes of the bs.
ascii_field: 'deviltry of the infidels'
mircea_popescu: that's how the hell ended up containing half sulphur by mass
mircea_popescu: accidental saltpeter contamination.
mircea_popescu: ftr, romanian hell not being too well connected to the needs of catholicism still mostly fills the space with smoala, which is a heavy tar.
ascii_field: aha, ru orthodox hell
ascii_field: смола.
mircea_popescu: what's it in english ?
mircea_popescu: the thing that actually cvasi-crystallizes if allowed to cool, and it cracks
mircea_popescu: i thought pitch flows.
assbot: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years - RTÉ News ... ( )
mircea_popescu: aha. seems its actually pure asphalt.
mircea_popescu: ie, viscoelastic polymer property\
mircea_popescu: with the characteristic circular chips
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 03:42:19; mircea_popescu: i guess we should add to gabrielradio's list
assbot: The realest in gangsta rap - ... ( )
shinohai: <<< Only room for one set of scammers named cryptsy
assbot: NYPD caught using X-ray vans to search the public, refuses court order to release details | ExtremeTech ... ( )
assbot: NYPD has super-secret X-ray vans | New York Post ... ( )
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does this mean, "refuses court order"
mircea_popescu: "obama grows pet unicorn". wtf ?
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: like andrew jackson
ascii_field: in worcester v georgia
mircea_popescu: hardly, the guy had an army.
mircea_popescu: nypd is an extension of the fucking court system.
ascii_field: in practice - army.
mircea_popescu: well this is certainly a mutiny.
mircea_popescu: army or not.
mircea_popescu: meaning they steal, rape, arson and kill << burn and pillage eh ? you don't arson anymore than you disease.
mircea_popescu: "so to say" = "as the expression goes"
ascii_field: incidentally, any self-respecting bomb craftsman puts in a fluorescent trigger for the xray schmucks
ascii_field: ergo the vans have precious little to do with bomb
mircea_popescu: deodata is not suddenly, in that contexts, it's "at the same time". english apparently fails synonymy. At the same time, simultaneously and concurrently i guess.
ascii_field: and more pertinent re: illicit (in nyc - just about any) small arms, as well as benjie briefcases, etc
mircea_popescu: see a cop, shoot that cop.
gabrielradio: mircea_popescu yea, it didn't sound right indeed.
ascii_field: see an unmarked van, ...??
mircea_popescu: anyway. possibly one of the hardest pieces to translate, it's so well flown in romanian...
mircea_popescu: ascii_field omnibus contra omnes!!11
gabrielradio: quite so. how would you go translate "pai nu?!"
mircea_popescu: that's why i keep saying innit in english.
mircea_popescu: yes, it's a poor substitute
gabrielradio: a lot better than what i used tho
mircea_popescu: "which were not his, but some young lady's" << "belonged not to him, but to some pretty young thing ..."
mircea_popescu: repetitio est mater crezutio. also needs a note, because if you turn "crezut" into believe it's unobvious wtf crezutio's supposed to be anymnore.
gabrielradio: i had doubts for a second there. i'm still trying to figure out where to go straightforward & where to reconstruct to better cater to the meaning
mircea_popescu: but footnotes are a translator's best friend
mircea_popescu: thus satisfying mike_c's legitimate expectation of endless subfootnote footery
assbot: ZBV® - American Science & Engineering ... ( )
ascii_field: claims, 'Its easy-to-read image quickly and clearly reveals threats like explosives, drugs, currency, and trade-fraud items such as alcohol and cigarettes—even in high-throughput environments like border crossings and security checkpoints.'
gabrielradio: << random tidbits of this kind make my day
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 16:42:42; mircea_popescu: rizi tu rizi, harap alb, da' nu-i risul tau.
assbot: ZBV with Tx-View™ - American Science & Engineering ... ( )
mircea_popescu: isn't that a little carcinogenic ?
ascii_field: a little, l0l
mircea_popescu: even in the high throughput environments like the Great Toxic Swapm ?
ascii_field: this esp. re: mircea_popescu's earlier observation re: police state hardware.
punkman: I thought backscatter was xrays
ascii_field: punkman: 2nd link shows a standard (transmissive) xray.
ascii_field: apparently they offer either.
punkman: oic
punkman: I also thought backscatter couldn't see inside truck
ascii_field: why not ?
punkman: do you just turn it up to see through metal?
assbot: Scanner Vans Allow Drive-By Snooping - Forbes ... ( )
punkman: the nypd people operating the vans must be having a blast with their personal "xray glasses"
mircea_popescu: kinda the whole point. "recruiting" carl forces.
ascii_field: ever wonder how they know which car to pop for 100k in benjies ?
ascii_field: this'd be one.
punkman: I wonder how aware the ny (drug/money/x) couriers deal with this
mircea_popescu: anyone in nyc not routinely carrying an old suitcase full of cut up old newspaper to bill size is not doing enough for his country.
punkman: I accidentally that sentence
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: old rags lack rare earth pigments, scarcely scatter at all
mircea_popescu: punkman let's put it this way : if they yank any courrier everyone dies. the cops - including all the cops, not just hte ones involved, but everyone in their shift. plus their parents, and their soupses, and the spouse's exes
mircea_popescu: and you can try out the daughters for 20 dollars in bolivia.,
shinohai: <<< I thought the best tool was to just let mircea_popescu analyze it.
assbot: Y Combinator growth calculator - Business Insider ... ( )
mircea_popescu: now, how many times have you heard of something like this going down ?
ascii_field: why would anyone die? the cops and the couriers work for the same folks, at the end of the day
mircea_popescu: that's approximately the number of times they caught anyone who wasn;t a derp.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field well i was constructing a counterfactual.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field old newspaper and old bills are practically the same iirc.
mircea_popescu: shinohai im not clicking on that. what is it ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: mno. american bills are printed on cloth fiber and with rare earth inks (at one point, even paramagnetic)
mircea_popescu: hm. aite then.
shinohai: Some article about a tool that is supposed to tell you how long your startup has before the vc money runs out
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: at any rate, the vans are used to help select folks for 'random traffic stop'
punkman: but that's how we catch teh terrorists!!11
assbot: Terran Impact X-ray Detector ... ( )
mircea_popescu: "we can't tell you about how we've not caught any terrorists because that would expose our inefficiency to the scrutiny of terrorists encouraging them and thus harm national security"
mircea_popescu: perfect sense
ascii_field: grade-school project.
ascii_field: why would anyone 'hunt terrorists' (who aren't there) when he can hunt fat duffel bags full of benjies.
ascii_field: incidentally
ascii_field: the new drone ban tastes extra-tasty with the van find
ascii_field: fly geigers around nyc
ascii_field: have'em glom onto the vans, playing back recorded obscenities, blinkenlighting.
ascii_field: (would be interesting to see an aerial 'photo' of a major usistan conurbation in xray/gamma spectrum at any event!)
kakobrekla: all you need to do is register a drone and collect the data
ascii_field: don't forget to file in triplicate !111
mircea_popescu: YA YA YA DAS IST EIN VAN
ascii_field: WAGEN!
mircea_popescu: let's not confuse the most college educated generation in history
ascii_field: pick up 'millimetre-wave' radar for good measure.
ben_vulpes: CANCERWAGEN
mircea_popescu: AUTISM VACCINE VAN
ascii_field: finally a good use for autonomous copterbots..
punkman: re: most dangerous job thread, fishing takes the prize apparently
assbot: The Deadliest Jobs in America | Bloomberg Business - Business, Financial & Economic News, Stock Quotes ... ( )
mircea_popescu: i wonder if adhd is related to cell towers and autism to vaccines or vice versa. hey, that's interesting, x-ray vans.
mircea_popescu: punkman most people who decide to off themselves say "they're going fishing"
mircea_popescu: since hunting lost popularity.
ascii_field: though if the chart is to be believed, sometimes they... go logging
punkman: I wonder where all the dead pilots work
punkman: ah right
ascii_field: where else.
punkman: misc. extraction, oil & gas?
assbot: I WAS MCG AND WIFE’S THREE-WAY SEX STUD: EX-DRIVER | New York Post ... ( )
mircea_popescu: so politician has to resign because he "cheated" on his wife ? as if fucking is now a crime ? but the thing is... SHE WAS THERE ?
mircea_popescu: she cheated on her while they were tag-teaming some dude together ? wtf ?
mircea_popescu: from tlp, in 2008 : "There is, however, one important unifying characteristic of political infidelities that makes them very different from the average joe on everyone knows these guys are going to get caught."
mircea_popescu: ahahahahaha. mmmkay.
ascii_field: how is this a haze ?
ascii_field: now, if they were pineapples...
mircea_popescu: uh... hazing is the introduction of immature/juvenile individuals to the practices of their kind.
mircea_popescu: this is the quintessential hazing.
ascii_field: i thought hazing were more of a 'тяжело в учении - легко в бою' kind of thing
mircea_popescu: im thinking more of cheerleader hazing than army stuff. in english iirc that's called pluriously other thnings
assbot: Facebook will tell you if the government is snooping on your account ... ( )
shinohai: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: just like the 'ipnohe encryption' crock of shit
ascii_field: 'we will save you from usg unless ordered not to by usg so don't be surprised if never. but you can feel great!'
kakobrekla: phreedom as an app. sells well.
ben_vulpes: you know what's going to sell well?
ben_vulpes: brand identity apps
ben_vulpes: "these pants are just like those pants except using pants a makes me feel like a cooler person than pants b"
ben_vulpes: eg "i'm a coke person, not a pepsi person"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48450 @ 0.0005091 = 24.6659 BTC [+] {7}
deedbot-: [Qntra] 78 Months in Prison for Carl Mark Force IV -
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> "these pants are just like those pants except using pants a makes me feel like a cooler person than pants b" << Drugs perfected this first: "Heroin feels really good, but Cocaine just always makes me feel more fun"
mircea_popescu: <deedbot-> [Qntra] 78 Months in Prison for Carl Mark Force IV << does he get any "guard" slaves to impregnate ?
mircea_popescu: or is that only for black guys.
BingoBoingo: Only for the black guys. His name is very black, but his skin is insufficiently so.
BingoBoingo: Unless he is hiding a second middle name in there and the full expansion is "Carl Mark 4Real Force IV" and his name alone may be black enough
BingoBoingo: Or maybe Carl Mark Force IV-Lyfe
ben_vulpes: eyyyyyyyyy
mircea_popescu: "Adolescence is supposed to be an identity Schrodinger's Cat: multiple simultaneous states which eventually collapse into only one. The goal of adulthood is to let go of the other possible existences and to make the best of the one. A successful adult is one who understands that it doesn't matter which life you ultimately pick, only that you live it well. The same potential for, say, happiness exists whether you are
mircea_popescu: a construction worker, porn actor, or wealthy industrialist."
mircea_popescu: aHAHAHAHAHA
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck.
mircea_popescu: really ?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: those are /actually different things/, though.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But their Brand identities are distinct.
ben_vulpes: cocaine and heroin only have brands insofar as the usg propaganda machine defines them to.
ben_vulpes: they exist however as entirely seperate things.
ben_vulpes: unlike coca cola and pepsi, which are the same fucking thing.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, does coca cola contribute to global warming ?
ben_vulpes: (and soon, microsofts linux and "linux"!)
mircea_popescu: all that pschhhhtttzzz
mircea_popescu: that's carbon dioxide, right ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i betcha they're getting carbon credits for sequestering
mircea_popescu: shouldn't they use , i dunno, helium ? to reduce their footprint ?
ben_vulpes: helium's rare and those who use it are evil now, donchano
mircea_popescu would like it if all fizz producers were legally forced to use helium
mircea_popescu: and all the fucktards to drink it
ben_vulpes: why? and why?
mircea_popescu: you ever heard someone talk on helium ?
kakobrekla: great for suicide too.
BingoBoingo: Maybe put Nitrous Oxide in the fizzy drinks, sure makes most people a bit giggly, but worth it for the 1-0.3% of the population that becomes rage monsters on it. Much lulz potential there.
assbot: U.S. investigating report email account linked to CIA director hacked - ... ( )
mircea_popescu: ahahaha see alf, it WAS factual.
mircea_popescu: "wake me up when obama finally puts his tiny winer in a blender"
jurov: heh helium won't dissolve in water, i'm +1 with nitrous oxide
jurov: or when feeling particularly enraged, perhaps carbon monoxide can be considered
assbot: Principal doesn’t want teachers sitting — so she threw out all their desks | New York Post ... ( )
mircea_popescu: this is like being in 9th grade and discovering the seniors are all playing with stupid fucking barbie dolls. not even like 3rd graders, but like 3rd grade GIRLS
mircea_popescu: jurov carbon monoxide isnt reallty toxic in small doses
BingoBoingo: But how much can you dissolve in the water... prolly more than a small dose.
mircea_popescu: 27.6 mg/L (25 °C)
BingoBoingo: Ah, easier to just fill the cam with liquid carbon monoxide then
mircea_popescu: basically if you drink more than a coupla liters in six hours (saturated) you're done.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> basically if you drink more than a coupla liters in six hours (saturated) you're done. << Seems like a safe way to thin out some hamplanets, while preserving people who aren't quite HCFS addicts
punkman: drinking is not breathing it though
asciilifeform: let's call it... einsatzkola.
punkman: I do wonder what heliumkola burps sound like
asciilifeform: 'Self-help duo Lynne Rosen and John Littig, known for their monthly radio show "The Pursuit of Happiness," were found dead in their Park Slope apartment, suffocated with plastic bags and helium. Each left behind a note, the Daily News reports, but their bodies were not discovered for up to a week. The soft-spoken couple owned a life-coaching business called Why Not Now and preached a mission "designed to help foster and encour
asciilifeform: age your inner strengths, identify hidden and untapped resources, and put you confidently on the path to designing the life you've always wanted to live." Their websites are littered with quotes like "The secret to getting ahead is getting started"​ and "It's always too early to quit."'
asciilifeform: Why Not Now!
mod6: haha
mod6: s/The Pursuit of Happiness/The Pursuit of a Bag Over Your Head/
mircea_popescu: punkman this is true but in the particular case of co - it is very permeating.\
mircea_popescu: your gut will uptake most of it.
mircea_popescu: they look kinda like "that mainstream ugly bitch and that mainstream insecure hipster make a porno" cast.
mircea_popescu: Zack & Miri Make a Porno
asciilifeform: funnily enough, i just answered phone from an old phriend who needed phase diagram of $redacted. apparently libraries now lack basic reference dead tree, and the net - worthless
asciilifeform: for something so basic.
asciilifeform: go and find a heat of enthalpy !
asciilifeform: and speaking of the helium people, it is - think about it - a pretty high-tech suicide weapon
asciilifeform: (need hoses, pressure regulators, at least. not a spur-of-the-moment thing, like eating your nagant)
mircea_popescu: tho really, nox much better to asphyxiate with.
asciilifeform: laugh to death.
mircea_popescu: heck, people mostly do it by mistake
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, by then it's laugh AT death.
asciilifeform: like kary mullis (discoverer of pcr!) almost did
asciilifeform: (assistant found him with lips frozen solid. he was getting it straight from the tank!)
asciilifeform: anyway imho the chick is hot
asciilifeform: more or less illustrative of the opposite of what i mean when i say that the chix in mircea_popescu's photos 'have no faces'
mircea_popescu: you only think this because she's 45
asciilifeform: << what's the story here? you have to be alive now or they pull your box from the rack ?
assbot: - Registered at ... ( )
mircea_popescu: back when she was of sexing age you'd have thought her faceless too
asciilifeform: (or did they let it lapse)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly. all i have is this data point.
mircea_popescu: but all things consider, i'd rather the adult woman carry the lines i give her.
asciilifeform: paging pygmalion...
mircea_popescu: 'fraid this is more a case of narcissus, but anyway.
asciilifeform: << paging your kindergarten chemistry teacher !
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 23:41:21; BingoBoingo: Maybe put Nitrous Oxide in the fizzy drinks, sure makes most people a bit giggly, but worth it for the 1-0.3% of the population that becomes rage monsters on it. Much lulz potential there.
asciilifeform: no wants to dissolve in nonpolars !
asciilifeform: e.g. lipid
mircea_popescu: so make the cola oil rather than water based.
asciilifeform: and not no either
asciilifeform: but n2o
asciilifeform: and so you want something like cream
asciilifeform: (which is where you will typically find n2o in the kitchen shop !)
asciilifeform: see old thread re: same.
asciilifeform: (NO you will find in the gasenwagen.)
asciilifeform: right next to CO.
mircea_popescu: details, my dear doctor faustus1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38939 @ 0.00050258 = 19.57 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so make the cola oil rather than water based. << Ether based
assbot: Teen Hacker Says He Cracked CIA Head's Personal Email: Media | SecurityWeek.Com ... ( )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (NO you will find in the gasenwagen.) << NO is nitric, but yes available at the kitchen shop, auto shop, and tooth shop
BingoBoingo: Auto shop though tends to adulterate it to prevent "abuse"
asciilifeform: l0l, speaking of those faceless !
asciilifeform: spiffy knot work though.
BingoBoingo: "Decriminalising drug use and possession for personal consumption is permitted by the international drug control conventions and is a key element of the HIV response among people who use drugs"
assbot: Finally – a change in course on drug policy - ... ( )
BingoBoingo: The BBC reports that it has now been formally withdrawn after pressure from “at least one country”
mircea_popescu: lmao. the end of the fufcking world, when the empire's TAIL starts using imperial HEAD tricks
mircea_popescu: "these words don't say what you thought they did, they say what we want them to say, eat it up Washington!"
mircea_popescu: so so very 400 ad.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21390 @ 0.00050258 = 10.7502 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: not to mention that 'decriminalize' is an idiot newspeakism
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not to mention that 'decriminalize' is an idiot newspeakism << A lot of this. Basically code for enforce with greater arbitratity and seize moar funds.
asciilifeform: it is merely the introduction of a new layer of chumps, 'lawful personal users' - who do not even need to physically exist to support new layers of 'moar studiez needed' mandarins, enforcer thugs, etc
asciilifeform: how 'lawful personal users' are to get their dope without contact with 'lawless impersonal' dope-dealing caste, remains undefined (because whole shebang is a joke)
asciilifeform: l0l 'legal research'
asciilifeform: is there a 'research' team which catches panda for the well-funded table ?
BingoBoingo: There better be.
BingoBoingo: I have to say though that Nisshin Maru might be my favorite ship in the ocean
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00050474 = 8.4544 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: rebound relationship with pledge ... ( )
asciilifeform: 'There are a few simple seeming functions in libc which turn out to be quite complicated under the hood. You call a function expecting a simple result, but then libc runs off and opens a bunch of sockets to remote servers and chats them up. This makes setting up a robust sandbox difficult and error prone. (Wait, what? Why is ls creating sockets???)' << lulz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114400 @ 0.00051378 = 58.7764 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45574 @ 0.00051988 = 23.693 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39226 @ 0.00052162 = 20.4611 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22093 @ 0.00052256 = 11.5449 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41869 @ 0.0005023 = 21.0308 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12123 @ 0.00051103 = 6.1952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00052864 = 13.1896 BTC [+] {4}
deedbot-: accepted: 1
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 19:08:35; mircea_popescu: deedbot-
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 16:04:39; trinque: side note of yey people are trying to verify the thing, which is very important.
adlai still hasn't figured out deterministic newline munging in multideed bundles
assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 00:24:08; asciilifeform: (which is where you will typically find n2o in the kitchen shop !)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0005299 = 5.7759 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: adlai: yeah later in that thread you'll see me chattering about fixing it
trinque: my parser was ignorant of \r\n
trinque: vs \n
trinque: did that one never get resubmitted?
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai: now... two bundles, each with a double divideed. nice :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41969 @ 0.00052601 = 22.0761 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: In other news... Apparently 200 pound girls abuse anorexia forums trying to lose weight?
assbot: Please insult me hard. - The South Beach Diet - Forums and Community ... ( )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: refresh my memory, how did you get into the subject
mircea_popescu: he's trying to lose weight.
BingoBoingo: A bit of that. A bit of fuck reddit censorship.
BingoBoingo: Also now that I know cool black people and cool Jooz, need socially acceptable utternmenschen and the Food Stamp supermorbidly obese are kinda it.
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